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*©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·| - 15 Apr 2007 23:09 GMT

Hello, All!

I've only been injecting a few weeks, and as my docs are trying to work out
my insulin units to achieve decent numbers, they have steadily incresed the
amount of insulin each few days.

It seems now, im only on 24 in morn and 20 at tea time, but i can feel the
difference [i think], and its actually beginnig to hurt sometimes.

Now i just wondered, cos im a big baby more than anything, is it "ok" to
inject say half the amount in one side and then the other half in the other
side?

i realise that people take much more than i am taking, but i just wondered
if it was ok to do this

anyone else have any thoughts

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Elizabeth Blake - 16 Apr 2007 00:06 GMT

> Hello, All!
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> i realise that people take much more than i am taking, but i just wondered
> if it was ok to do this

When I was on injections, if it hurt as I was injecting I would pull the
needle out and finish the injection in another area. I don't think that
it's a problem to split it.

I haven't read Dr. Bernstein's book in years, but didn't he recommend
splitting all injections that were more than X units (7?) into multiple
shots/sites?

You might also try injecting slowly. If you push it all in quickly it can
hurt.
--
Liz
Type 1 dx 4/1987
Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005

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*©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·| - 16 Apr 2007 18:06 GMT

Hello, Elizabeth!

Thanks for your comments, i havent read all the book yet, so have yet to
read that

thanx again

Mike

You wrote to Elizabeth Blake on Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:06:08 -0400:

EB> "*©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|" <h@cker.co.uk> wrote in
EB> message news:_nxUh.170747$LA2.111131@newsfe27.ams...
??>> Hello, All!
??>>
??>> I've only been injecting a few weeks, and as my docs are trying to
??>> work out my insulin units to achieve decent numbers, they have
??>> steadily incresed the amount of insulin each few days.
??>>
??>> It seems now, im only on 24 in morn and 20 at tea time, but i can feel
??>> the difference [i think], and its actually beginnig to hurt sometimes.
??>>
??>> Now i just wondered, cos im a big baby more than anything, is it "ok"
??>> to inject say half the amount in one side and then the other half in
??>> the other side?
??>>
??>> i realise that people take much more than i am taking, but i just
??>> wondered if it was ok to do this

EB> When I was on injections, if it hurt as I was injecting I would pull
EB> the needle out and finish the injection in another area. I don't think
EB> that it's a problem to split it.

EB> I haven't read Dr. Bernstein's book in years, but didn't he recommend
EB> splitting all injections that were more than X units (7?) into multiple
EB> shots/sites?

EB> You might also try injecting slowly. If you push it all in quickly it
EB> can hurt.

With best regards, *©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|. E-mail:
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Alexander Arnakis - 16 Apr 2007 05:07 GMT

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:09:04 +0100, "*©*΄―`·.ΈΈ.·΄·DυKtφr
εvγνδρηhλ·`·.ΈΈ.·΄―`·-·|" <h@cker.co.uk> wrote:

>Hello, All!
>
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>
>anyone else have any thoughts

You could do this, but it would obviously double the number of shots.
Since most of the pain (and it's very little, at that) comes from the
insertion of the needle, if your aim was to lessen the pain, you would
actually be working at cross-purposes with yourself.

Also keep in mind that you would be doubling your cost of needles. I
use my syringes twice before discarding them. But each additional use
becomes noticably less comfortable, as the needles become duller.

Try to experiment with different injection sites to see which ones are
the least sensitive.

I've been injecting insulin for more than 41 years, and lately it's
been four times a day. Believe me, you get used to this fairly quickly
and it becomes just another routine thing to do.

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*©*/?`·.??.·/·DoKtor avaianche·`·.??.·/?`·-·| - 16 Apr 2007 18:07 GMT

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Beav - 16 Apr 2007 20:57 GMT

> Hello, All!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It seems now, im only on 24 in morn and 20 at tea time, but i can feel the
> difference [i think], and its actually beginnig to hurt sometimes.

Press the plunger VERY slowly. You won't feel a thing if you do. Don't
"choose" a painless site and stick with it either as it'll fill up with scar
tissue as time passes. Choose a different site for every shot (even a few
inches either way is good enough).

> Now i just wondered, cos im a big baby more than anything, is it "ok" to
> inject say half the amount in one side and then the other half in the
> other side?

I don't, but I'm sure it wouldn't be a major problem, but could you say
which nsulin you're using.

> i realise that people take much more than i am taking, but i just wondered
> if it was ok to do this

People also take more than one TYPE of insulin (different needs need
different insulins) and I'm getting the feeling that you're using a pre-mix
and if so, maybe a change to two different types would be good, because you
certainly CAN inject the two types at different places at the same time (or
within the time it takes to choose your weapon:-)

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Hello, Beav!

thanks for replying, im using novamix 70/30 currently

thanks for other advise, i try to do it slowly, but the presser is quite
hard, so its reasonably hard to do it slowly, i've only been doin it 3
weeks, more practice i think

cheers again

mike

You wrote to Beav on Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:57:17 GMT:

B> "*©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|" <h@cker.co.uk> wrote in
B> message news:_nxUh.170747$LA2.111131@newsfe27.ams...
??>> Hello, All!
??>>
??>> I've only been injecting a few weeks, and as my docs are trying to
??>> work out my insulin units to achieve decent numbers, they have
??>> steadily incresed the amount of insulin each few days.
??>>
??>> It seems now, im only on 24 in morn and 20 at tea time, but i can feel
??>> the difference [i think], and its actually beginnig to hurt sometimes.

B> Press the plunger VERY slowly. You won't feel a thing if you do. Don't
B> "choose" a painless site and stick with it either as it'll fill up with
B> scar tissue as time passes. Choose a different site for every shot (even
B> a few inches either way is good enough).
??>>
??>> Now i just wondered, cos im a big baby more than anything, is it "ok"
??>> to inject say half the amount in one side and then the other half in
??>> the other side?

B> I don't, but I'm sure it wouldn't be a major problem, but could you say
B> which nsulin you're using.
??>>
??>> i realise that people take much more than i am taking, but i just
??>> wondered if it was ok to do this

B> People also take more than one TYPE of insulin (different needs need
B> different insulins) and I'm getting the feeling that you're using a
B> pre-mix and if so, maybe a change to two different types would be good,
B> because you certainly CAN inject the two types at different places at
B> the same time (or within the time it takes to choose your weapon:-)

With best regards, *©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|. E-mail:
h@cker.co.uk

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Erica Nurney - 17 Apr 2007 12:19 GMT

> Hello, Beav!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> cheers again

The button on the end of the disposable Lantus pen is very hard to
press in at times, I wonder how those with arthritic hands or advanced
neuropathy cope because I struggle with it, and I'm a (reasonably) fit
and healthy 60-year old. OTOH, the Novopen for my Novorapid is very
easy, causing a too rapid innoculation, with subsequent leakage.

As far as pain goes, Lantus is quite acidic and sometimes causes a
slight burning sensation if you happen to jab near a nerve. I find
the area round my belly-button less sensitive and I also jab in quite
quickly, so I rarely have any needle-prick pains - maybe having
several rolls of fat helps! 6mm needles are also less painful than 8
mm ones, I find.

> mike

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Hello, Erica!

thanx for the reply, glad im not the only obe that finds some pressing hard
at times, im not a weak man, but sometimes it takes two heavy hands to press
it all in

my mum has bad arthritic hands and shes beginnig to struggle

anyway, thanks for replying

You wrote to Erica Nurney on 17 Apr 2007 04:19:13 -0700:

EN> On 16 Apr, 21:08, "*©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|"
EN> <h...@cker.co.uk> wrote:
??>> Hello, Beav!
??>>
??>> thanks for replying, im using novamix 70/30 currently
??>>
??>> thanks for other advise, i try to do it slowly, but the presser is
??>> quite hard, so its reasonably hard to do it slowly, i've only been
??>> doin it 3 weeks, more practice i think
??>>
??>> cheers again
??>>
EN> The button on the end of the disposable Lantus pen is very hard to
EN> press in at times, I wonder how those with arthritic hands or advanced
EN> neuropathy cope because I struggle with it, and I'm a (reasonably) fit
EN> and healthy 60-year old. OTOH, the Novopen for my Novorapid is very
EN> easy, causing a too rapid innoculation, with subsequent leakage.

EN> As far as pain goes, Lantus is quite acidic and sometimes causes a
EN> slight burning sensation if you happen to jab near a nerve. I find
EN> the area round my belly-button less sensitive and I also jab in quite
EN> quickly, so I rarely have any needle-prick pains - maybe having
EN> several rolls of fat helps! 6mm needles are also less painful than 8
EN> mm ones, I find.

??>> mike
??>>

With best regards, *©*´¯`·.¸¸.·´·DõKtör åvãíäñçhë·`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-·|. E-mail:
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