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Dr. Kildare and Insulin Shock Therapy

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Uncle Enrico - 10 Apr 2007 14:10 GMT
1940..."The Strange Case of Dr. Kildare."   (Don't try  this at home kids)

In this Turner Classic Movies film, the good doc recklessly cures a
schizophrenic with a massive dose of insulin, takes him into a coma over a 5
hour period and snatches him from the jaws of death with a big dose of
glucose through an I.V., followed by two jelly sandwiches and a half liter
of milk. The patient's temperature was 86 F. just before the glucose I.V.

Here's a link to this bizarre practice from the Time Magazine archives Sept.
18, 1944.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,796721,00.html

Here's another link: scroll down to "insulin shock."

http://schizophreniatreatments.bravehost.com/history.html

Yet another link from that quaint period

http://www.priory.com/homol/insulin.htm/
Susan - 10 Apr 2007 15:13 GMT
> 1940..."The Strange Case of Dr. Kildare."   (Don't try  this at home kids)
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> http://www.priory.com/homol/insulin.htm/

It's not as bizarre as you think, it cured a great aunt of mine in the
30s.   In the case of steroid resistance, excess cortisol sometimes
causes psychosis and psychotic depression.  Insulin reduces cortisol
binding globulin, thereby preventing cells from being flooded with
excess cortisol.  Basically, glucocorticoid resistance causes an
endogenous form of steroid induced psychosis that insulin therapy reverses.

Susan
Flying Rat - 10 Apr 2007 17:29 GMT
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> Susan

in a dark period of our history in Britain, insulin shock therapy was
also used as a "cure" for homosexuality. It was tried along with some
particularly brutal aversion therapy techniques.

The logic was the same misguided attempts to shock people out of what
was deemed at the time to be abberant behaviour.

Ratty
Susan - 10 Apr 2007 17:53 GMT
> in a dark period of our history in Britain, insulin shock therapy was
> also used as a "cure" for homosexuality. It was tried along with some
> particularly brutal aversion therapy techniques.
>
> The logic was the same misguided attempts to shock people out of what
> was deemed at the time to be abberant behaviour.

No comparison, though.  The psychotics actually needed and many benefited.

Homosexuals were being tortured just for being who they were.

Susan
Flying Rat - 10 Apr 2007 18:02 GMT
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I appreciate there is no direct comparison, but at the time it was
believed the same treatment would work. Many actually sought out and
paid for the treatment due to social and legal pressure.

Ratty
Susan - 10 Apr 2007 21:03 GMT
> I appreciate there is no direct comparison, but at the time it was
> believed the same treatment would work. Many actually sought out and
> paid for the treatment due to social and legal pressure.
>
> Ratty

Let's be very grateful that at least that degree of intolerance is
mostly behind us, with the APA having removed homosexuality from the DSM
decades ago.

Transsexuality/transgenderism next!

Susan
DonnaB shallotpeel - 10 Apr 2007 21:41 GMT
In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:02:26 +0100 in Msg.#
<MPG.2085d37ab14856b4989b11@news.readfreenews.net>, Flying Rat <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> I appreciate there is no direct comparison, but at the time it was
> believed the same treatment would work. Many actually sought out and
> paid for the treatment due to social and legal pressure.

But, the point is that enlightened medical practitioners would have known that
the gay people looking for help dealing with being gay didn't need treatment
unless it was to accept themselves - and that treating the society & legal
system that was actually sick was beyond the scope of medicine.

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Loretta Eisenberg - 10 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT
Before electric shockk therapy was introduced, insulin shock therapy was
the treatment of choice

If anyone saw a beautiful mind, John Nash was given this type of shock
treatment

Loretta
 
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