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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / April 2007Dr Chung ... please
My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so much misleading information it is hard to find good information about what to do, etc. Need to know what to eat, how much, when, etc. She has been to 2 doctors that thyroid and diabetes are supposed to be their specialty but all they tell her about diet is to eat less. She does not eat much but has been swelled since a gall blader operation 3 years ago. MRI of the abdomen shows nothing unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very much for your time. -- --------------------------------- --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v3.8 Final Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet ------------------- ----- ---- -- - > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very > much for your time. sadly, you can get better information from Charles Manson. you're asking medical advise from a well-known QUACK! if you need help finding information call your insurance company or contact the ADA for more information. best of luck to you . >> My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we >> might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > best of luck to you . Your doctor may be able to recommend a nutritionist. In addition, many hosptials have diabetes programs for people like you. Your doctor may know about it, but also look at the websites and call the hospitals. Jeff > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. Here is an authoritative place to start: http://www.diabetes.org/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/overview.jsp > There is so > much misleading information it is hard to find good information > about what to do, etc. Correct. > Need to know what to eat, how much, when, etc. Any changes that she makes in either her diet or "way of eating" should not adversely affect her appetite. Hunger is a healthy appetite. The hungriest people are the healthiest people. Folks who are not hungry are dying. Tragic Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, would be an example of the latter: http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html > She has been to 2 doctors that thyroid and diabetes are > supposed to be their specialty but all they tell her about diet is > to eat less. It is very likely that they are familiar with the 2PD-OMER Approach: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp This Approach now comes with a million dollar guarantee and its free: http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee > She does not eat much but has been swelled since a gall > blader operation 3 years ago. MRI of the abdomen shows nothing > unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very > much for your time. You are welcome :-) All thanks and praises belong to GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, Author of all reality (including the alternate ones). Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD http://EmoryCardiology.com >> My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we >> might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Folks who are not hungry are dying. The modern American diet is essentially a type of long-term poisoning resulting in obesity, heart disease, diabetes and some other maladies. It's difficult enough for a person to change their eating habits without subjecting themselves to hunger just for the sake of hunger. You may find a sensible well researched body of information from Dr. Arthur Agatston - he developed the "south beach diet" which is not another of these brainless fad diets. Use your local library and you'll find several books by him that you may find to be sensible and helpful. Thank you very much. God Bless. -- --------------------------------- --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v3.8 Final Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet ------------------- ----- ---- -- - > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/71bdef608386873f? > > Thank you very much. You are welcome, friend. Redirecting your thanks to LORD Almighty GOD, so that we will both be blessed, which means we will both be hungrier :-) > God Bless. HE has already blessed me more that the world could ever possibly know. May GOD continue to heal the hearts of our souls with HIS living water (http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/living.asp) so that we can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear friend whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Jesus' everlasting love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD http://EmoryCardiology.com >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > HE has already blessed me more that the world could ever possibly > know. You are already more deranged than the world could ever possibly know - that is, if you didn't advertise it all over the Internet. Right on, man! Thank you very much. God Bless. -- --------------------------------- --- -- - Posted with NewsLeecher v3.8 Final Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet ------------------- ----- ---- -- - On Mar 17, 12:14 am, Segatus (Sega...@anon.com) wrote: > Thank you very much. God Bless. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Web @http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet > ------------------- ----- ---- -- - Is it dark inside Earthquack's sock drawer? > > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Folks who are not hungry are dying. We're *all* dying, dumbass. > Tragic Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, would be an example of > the latter: You sick, ghoulish f.ck. That you would use Bob's health issues to promote your Psycho-Eating-Disorder Diet is truly revolting. > http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/4211.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > It is very likely that they are familiar with the 2PD-OMER Approach: It's verly unlikely that her doctors have heard of your psycho diet. > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp > > This Approach now comes with a million dollar guarantee: Liar. > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee Funny how you have to link to a Google archive of your "Guarantee", because the original website where it was posted has kicked you off. > > She does not eat much but has been swelled since a gall > > blader operation 3 years ago. MRI of the abdomen shows nothing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD > http://EmoryCardiology.com To the OP - "Dr" Chung is a well-known usenet lunatic. Just Google his name, and you'll find that he is a truly bizarre individual. Among other oddities, he has several time predicted the end of the world, and thinks that he has been chosen by the Holy Spirit to play a special part in the impending end of mankind. His fascination with global death and destruction are well documented in the archives. Please seek out competent medical advice and don't pay attention to Chung. He lost the only job he ever held in less than 3 months, and currently has no practice and no admitting privileges at any hospitals. GG > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > We're *all* dying, dumbass. Sorry to read that you are dying. > > Tragic Bob Pastorio, who remains in my prayers, would be an example of > > the latter: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You sick, ghoulish f.ck. That you would use Bob's health issues to promote > your Psycho-Eating-Disorder Diet is truly revolting. Bob Pastorio remains a timely example of someone who has lost his appetite thereby illustrating the anorexic effect of a terminal illness. "Hunger is good." -- Holy Spirit. Amen. > > > She has been to 2 doctors that thyroid and diabetes are > > > supposed to be their specialty but all they tell her about diet is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It's verly unlikely that her doctors have heard of your psycho diet. Actually, it is very likely they know about it. > > This Approach now comes with a million dollar guarantee: > > > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee > > Liar. It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully. > Funny how you have to link to a Google archive of your "Guarantee", because > the original website where it was posted has kicked you off. Your use of language betrays the lack of amusement that you feel in your heart. > > > She does not eat much but has been swelled since a gall > > > blader operation 3 years ago. MRI of the abdomen shows nothing [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > To the OP - "Dr" Chung is a well-known usenet lunatic. Name-calling simply shows that you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts > Just Google his > name, and you'll find that he is a truly bizarre individual. Truth is bizarre to the untruthful such as yourself. > Among other > oddities, he has several time predicted the end of the world It remains my choice to refrain from either predicting or prophesying. Indeed, GOD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to prophesy. > , and thinks > that he has been chosen by the Holy Spirit to play a special part in the > impending end of mankind. It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write. > His fascination with global death and destruction > are well documented in the archives. It remains my choice to joyfully look forward to GOD ushering in a new heaven, new earth, and new Jerusalem. > Please seek out competent medical advice and don't pay attention to Chung. Without the LORD, your wishes are meaningless (Ecclesiastes)... > He lost the only job he ever held in less than 3 months, and currently has > no practice and no admitting privileges at any hospitals. ... as are your fantasies... forever meaningless (Ecclesiastes). May you wisely choose to surrender to GOD by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:" http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay It saddens me to read that you are dying just as Bob is dying. Both you and Bob Pastorio will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Jesus' everlasting love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD http://EmoryCardiology.com Tell us how you know people are "convicted" by some "holy spirit". And don't chant - discuss it like an adult. I don't think you have the courage to even try answering this question. Here's another question for chunkers and his little Jesus friends: If there is a God, wouldn't he more likely respect people who used their God-given brains and had honest skepticism based on lack of evidence, ubiquitous contradictions, and on the bad acts performed in his name? Logically, he would seek to punish those who professed belief in him for selfish reasons of seeking better treatment in an afterlife and ranting away condemning others -- perhaps he will even make them the slaves of the more honest and worthy atheist skeptics. The Bible is full of various types of tests -- as a ranting Jesus monkey, the afterlife you can look forward through is probably at the end of a leash held by an atheist. On Mar 16, 9:22 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote: > Sorry to read that you are dying. Sorry to read that you are not. Two things to watch out for 1) Kmart: They will NOT give you the cheap warfarin unless you insist on it, For some reason that I have never adequately had explained, they will require your doctor to confirm it. The non-discount price is outrageous for stuff which costs pennies per pound in bulk.. According to them, it is some regulation of the Pharmacy Board, and applies to 4 drugs, 3 of whom not on the $15 list, but still cheaper than rack rate if you insist 2) Sam's, WalMart: Their pricing is NOT $4 for a month's supply, it is $4 for 30 pills, so your "$4" scrip can cost you $8 or $12/month, much more expensive than Express Scrips $20 for 3 months or KMart's $15 for three months. The druggist would not give me any info on any drug I didn't have a scrip for, so it is possible that SOME drugs may not fall under this rule. ted rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in news:evbfsl$29c$1 @aioe.org: > Two things to watch out for > 1) Kmart: They will NOT give you the cheap warfarin unless you insist [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > drugs, 3 of whom not on the $15 list, but still cheaper than rack rate > if you insist Double check with your doctor. Some docs have prescription pads that include a line that they can check if the generic is an acceptable substitute. (If that line isn't checked, the pharmacist often won't give the cheap stuff.) Even with drugs that don't have a generic available yet (to my knowledge), I'll ask the doc to include that line so that if the generic comes out, I'll get it without having to stay alert to the patent dates. > 2) Sam's, WalMart: Their pricing is NOT $4 for a month's supply, it is > $4 for 30 pills, so your "$4" scrip can cost you $8 or $12/month, much > more expensive than Express Scrips $20 for 3 months or KMart's $15 for > three months. The druggist would not give me any info on any drug I > didn't have a scrip for, so it is possible that SOME drugs may not fall > under this rule. http://i.walmart.com/i/if/hmp/fusion/genericdruglist.pdf gives the Walmart formulary and has a "we reserve the right to fudge this" line. It "Applies to up to a 30 day supply at commonly prescribed dosages" which I assume means they will claim your twice a day (or three times a day) dosage isn't the common use. Cindy Wells > ted rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in news:evbfsl$29c$1 > @aioe.org: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > alert to the patent dates. > No, Maryland law REQUIRES use of generics unless the doctor specifies (not checks a box), and, in any case, my doctors would NEVER specify a branded, they would have to get permission from my Medicare part D provider. In any case, Warfarin is not a patent drug. The stuff have been around for at least 50 years. >ted rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in news:evbfsl$29c$1 >@aioe.org: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >so that if the generic comes out, I'll get it without having to stay >alert to the patent dates. Varies according to state. In Pennsylvannia, unless the Dr. specifically states otherwise, the Pharmacist is permitted by law to substitute the generic product. In alt.support.diabetes ted rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote: : Two things to watch out for : 1) Kmart: They will NOT give you the cheap warfarin unless you insist [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : didn't have a scrip for, so it is possible that SOME drugs may not fall : under this rule. Ted, My medicare drug plan uses express scripts and the so pays are much higher than what you are quoting, eqalling 1/4 of the retail price at best adn 60% of the retail for me in the donut hole. Before the Medicare plan we did pay aobut $20 for a 2 month generic perscription and $40 for a non-generic. All diabetic meds were $5 for a 2 month scrip. To avoid the donut hole as long as I can, I now get my metformin and aaryl(generic) at Kmart for $15 for 3 months and wll be getting my Lipitor in 40 mg pills which cost the same per pill as the 20 mg Lipitor and I will just split them. Wendy > In alt.support.diabetes ted rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote: > : Two things to watch out for [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Wendy\ > KMart has Mevacor generic- I asked my doctor and was put on Mevacor instead > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very > much for your time. Please do not ask Chung for advice, he is both unemployed and unemployable. The only post he has ever held in medicine was for some 80 days or so, from whih he was dismissed with cause and left the state under a cloud. Do not accept the advice of an obvious schizophrenic Ratty > In article <zuDKh.51079$NY.46...@fe180.usenetserver.com>, Segatus > (Sega...@anon.com) says... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Do not accept the advice of an obvious schizophrenic ..who uses sockpuppets to generate his medical "advice", because when he responds to genuine queries, this is what you get: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e8125568b68e31a3 > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very > much for your time. Buy a clue and don't respond to him. As for the how much and when to eat, this is something she will need to figure out for herself. If she had a gallbladder operation then she would need to eat a low fat diet. On Mar 16, 8:54 pm, Segatus (Sega...@anon.com) wrote: > My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we > might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Web @http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet > ------------------- ----- ---- -- - Yeah, SOCK it to 'em, Earthquack. : My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we : might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : Web @ http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet : ------------------- ----- ---- -- - Asking for advise from Dr.(???) Chung over the internet is like kissing a cactus. Everyone thinks you look stupid doing it and you'll likely hurt yourself in the process. See your doctor for real info.  SignatureT2 Nov' 06 Actos 30mg (Rx ended 2/15/07) Low-carb diet Exercise [Default] On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:55 GMT, Segatus (Segatus@anon.com) Giggled into the madness of usenet: >My wife has type 2 diabetes. Can you please help us as to where we >might get good and reliable information on diet, etc. There is so [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >unusual. Any information will be much appreciated. Thank you very >much for your time. following the chung troll's advice could get your wife killed. he is a known loony. check out www.diabetes.org and ask to be refereed to a diabetic dietician by your wife's doctor's. 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