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Ma¢k - 07 Mar 2007 03:53 GMT
We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
authorized by the U.S. Energy Policy Act of 2005.  While we all look
forward to more daylight, we did want to let you to know that many
technology vendors are issuing patches and warning customers about the
possible impact this time switch may have on their personal and
business computers, including the time zone settings on the systems
clocks which may be incorrect during a four-week period following
March 11th.  This could lead to calendaring applications not working
properly and key, automated processes not taking place on time. You
may want to look on the Internet to get some tips on making sure your
computer is ready for an earlier date change. Some good sites to visit
include:
http://people.howstuffworks.com/dst-bug.htm,
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst,
http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/index.html and
http://www.energy.gov/about/EPAct.htm

from a trusted vendor this group uses.
Alan S - 07 Mar 2007 04:37 GMT
>We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
>this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>from a trusted vendor this group uses.

That's going to make it interesting with those that I talk
to around the world until March 31, when we go back to
Australian Eastern Standard Time.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 07 Mar 2007 05:47 GMT
>>We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
>>this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> to around the world until March 31, when we go back to
> Australian Eastern Standard Time.

I hate losing DST. It must be hard for you near the border,
with a different timezone in summer just a few k's away.  My
ex has rung the kids in school 3 times in this school year,
lol. Trying to catch them before they leave for school. It's
like Dad, we have been in school half an hour already.
Alan S - 07 Mar 2007 06:26 GMT
>>>We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time
>will start
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>lol. Trying to catch them before they leave for school. It's
>like Dad, we have been in school half an hour already.

Actually it's great up here in DST. If there is a particular
show we wanted to catch on TV and we're running late - then
it's on the Queensland channel an hour later.

It does get confusing at times. We went shopping over the
border yesterday afternoon (nowhere near an RACQ store
unfortunately) and decided to eat in an Indian Restaurant at
6pm. But we had to wait a while for them to get the kitchen
ready for the dinner crowd - it was only 5 pm as far as they
were concerned.

When the kids flew up from Melbourne for my birthday it
appeared to take them one hour to fly up and three hours to
fly back.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 07 Mar 2007 06:54 GMT
>>>>We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving
time will
>>>>start this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than
usual. This
>>>>change was authorized by the U.S. Energy Policy Act of
2005.  While
>>>>we all look forward to more daylight, we did want to let
you to
>>>>know that many technology vendors are issuing patches
and warning
>>>>customers about the possible impact this time switch may
have on
>>>>their personal and business computers, including the
time zone
>>>>settings on the systems clocks which may be incorrect
during a
>>>>four-week period following March 11th.  This could lead
to
>>>>calendaring applications not working properly and key,
automated
>>>>processes not taking place on time. You may want to look
on the
>>>>Internet to get some tips on making sure your computer
is ready for
>>>>an earlier date change. Some good sites to visit
include:
>>>>http://people.howstuffworks.com/dst-bug.htm,
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst,
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> appeared to take them one hour to fly up and three hours to
> fly back.

That's what its like when I put the kids on the plane here.
They are there 10 minutes after I see them off :) I usually
get the call to say the plane has arrived before I get off
the freeway on the way home.
Billie - 07 Mar 2007 07:26 GMT
My plans for my *golden years* were to travel.  I was 60 when Ashley went to
live with her mother, and already with very limited mobility.  Plus, there
had been those 13 years of raising her when we could have been child-free
(not complaining, just facts), and could have already been traveling some.
I would give anything to travel down to Oz to see you guys there.  I LOVE
being in other countries; I lived and traveled in the middle east, did a
little traveling in Germany, but would REALLY love to travel down under.
LOL  I already know your language.  Made some other friends there in a
support group based on children's attachment disorder.  Guess I'll have to
visit you all in my dreams.  *s*

Billie

: That's what its like when I put the kids on the plane here.
: They are there 10 minutes after I see them off :) I usually
: get the call to say the plane has arrived before I get off
: the freeway on the way home.
Alan S - 07 Mar 2007 07:45 GMT
>My plans for my *golden years* were to travel.  I was 60 when Ashley went to
>live with her mother, and already with very limited mobility.  Plus, there
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Billie

Hi Billie

I haven't done a lot of work on this one yet - but see if it
helps: http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 07 Mar 2007 07:56 GMT
> My plans for my *golden years* were to travel.  I was 60 when Ashley
> went to live with her mother, and already with very
limited mobility.
> Plus, there had been those 13 years of raising her when we
could have
> been child-free (not complaining, just facts), and could
have already
> been traveling some. I would give anything to travel down
to Oz to
> see you guys there.  I LOVE being in other countries; I
lived and
> traveled in the middle east, did a little traveling in
Germany, but
> would REALLY love to travel down under. LOL  I already
know your
> language.  Made some other friends there in a support
group based on
> children's attachment disorder.  Guess I'll have to visit
you all in
> my dreams.  *s*

It would be great to have you here! Alan lives in a little
slice of heaven and not far from the fabulous Gold Coast of
Queensland.  If you've seen one large city you've seen them
all. Even though Sydney has the bridge and the harbour etc,
there are many other fabulous little places outside of the
cities. Where I live now I am surrounded by large lakes and
not far from the ocean. Not far from the mountains either :)
I am an hour by freeway to Sydney but I only go there now to
visit son, DIL and kids, my oldest daughter, a brother and
sister and their extended families. That's it. It's
easygoing, clean air, clean beaches, I think you would love
it.
MI - 07 Mar 2007 21:22 GMT
On 3/6/07 10:26 PM, in article 7cmsu2dtv9l7t3537tbkkqmm4p1kpr0dfm@4ax.com,

> Actually it's great up here in DST. If there is a particular
> show we wanted to catch on TV and we're running late - then
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Epidaurus

I'm confused. I thought both Victoria and NSW were on daylight time. Am I
wrong? I've got to get this straightened out before I head south.

Martha T2 Canada
Ozgirl - 07 Mar 2007 22:46 GMT
> On 3/6/07 10:26 PM, in article
> 7cmsu2dtv9l7t3537tbkkqmm4p1kpr0dfm@4ax.com, "Alan S"
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> I'm confused. I thought both Victoria and NSW were on daylight time.
> Am I wrong? I've got to get this straightened out before I
head south.

> Martha T2 Canada

The closest airport to Alan is in QLD.
MI - 08 Mar 2007 04:30 GMT
On 3/7/07 2:46 PM, in article 12uug5qdhnlf877@news.supernews.com, "Ozgirl"
<are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote:

>> On 3/6/07 10:26 PM, in article
>> 7cmsu2dtv9l7t3537tbkkqmm4p1kpr0dfm@4ax.com, "Alan S"
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> The closest airport to Alan is in QLD.

Thanks. I never thought of that. I knew QLD remained on standard time, but I
guess the brain wasn't working.

Martha T2 Canada
Alan S - 07 Mar 2007 23:28 GMT
>On 3/6/07 10:26 PM, in article 7cmsu2dtv9l7t3537tbkkqmm4p1kpr0dfm@4ax.com,
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Martha T2 Canada

Australia's east coast can be a little confusing.
http://www.abc.net.au/backyard/timezone.htm

Down the East coast, Queensland does not use daylight saving
time (DST) but stays on Eastern Standard Time (EST) all
year. Victoria, NSW and Tasmania go to DST in October each
year - but Tasmania goes a few weeks early. That may change
this October.

So when I leave here at 11am and take twenty minutes to
drive to Coolangatta - I arrive at 10:20.

In the centre, South Australia and Northern Territory
standard time is a half-hour after EST; but only South
Australia goes to SA DST from October to March.

In the West, Western Australia is two hours after Eastern
time and also goes to WA DST.

I hope that made it clear:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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MI - 08 Mar 2007 04:36 GMT
On 3/7/07 3:28 PM, in article bihuu21fganldn060nn5gbbsdpm1u11u6s@4ax.com,

>> On 3/6/07 10:26 PM, in article 7cmsu2dtv9l7t3537tbkkqmm4p1kpr0dfm@4ax.com,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Epidaurus

Thanks, Alan. Ozgirl told me you went to QLD. We have the same confusion
here. In my province not even all the towns will follow suit so you really
have to be awake to know what time it is when travelling. You can go from
one time zone to another and back again in a half hour of driving.

Martha T2 Canada
bj - 07 Mar 2007 15:35 GMT
The real crunch will come Monday morning, when people get to the office &
find out the timed-coffee-maker *isn't going yet*!!! (after possibly being
late because they forgot to set their *home* coffee-timers....)
:-)
bj

> We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
> this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> from a trusted vendor this group uses.
ray - 07 Mar 2007 15:57 GMT
> We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
> this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> from a trusted vendor this group uses.

I know I'm sure looking forward to it. It's been quite cold here this
winter and the extra hour of daylight should certainly help warm things up.

BTW - all 13 of the Linux computers under my purview are ready for the
change.
Alan S - 07 Mar 2007 23:29 GMT
>> We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
>> this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual. This change was
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>I know I'm sure looking forward to it. It's been quite cold here this
>winter and the extra hour of daylight should certainly help warm things up.

:-))

>BTW - all 13 of the Linux computers under my purview are ready for the
>change.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Alexander Arnakis - 07 Mar 2007 21:40 GMT
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:53:05 -0500, MaΆk
<stopthespam@shootspammers.com> wrote:

>We wanted to make you aware that U.S. daylight-saving time will start
>this Sunday, March 11, three weeks earlier than usual.

For those running Windows 98SE, the fix is very easy. Get out the
distribution CD for the operating system and navigate to
Tools/Reskit/Config and run Tzedit.exe.
yeah-sure - 08 Mar 2007 05:41 GMT
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:53:05 -0500, Ma¶k
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> distribution CD for the operating system and navigate to
> Tools/Reskit/Config and run Tzedit.exe.

Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?

John
Alexander Arnakis - 08 Mar 2007 15:50 GMT
>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?

Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
remembered to do so).
bj - 08 Mar 2007 16:57 GMT
>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
> Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
> remembered to do so).

BIG EFFIN' DEAL.
I already go around the house changing clocks, what's one more???
bj
Alexander Arnakis - 09 Mar 2007 01:51 GMT
>BIG EFFIN' DEAL.
>I already go around the house changing clocks, what's one more???
>bj

OK, here's the problem -- Windows is already set to change to Daylight
Savings Time (and vice versa) automatically. So if you change your
computer clock manually on March 11, you'll find that Windows sets the
clock forward again in April, and then you'd (manually) have to undo
that change. Same thing again in the fall. Just change the system once
and for all and forget about it.
BlueBrooke - 09 Mar 2007 02:29 GMT
>>BIG EFFIN' DEAL.
>>I already go around the house changing clocks, what's one more???
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>that change. Same thing again in the fall. Just change the system once
>and for all and forget about it.

Actually, it's only automatic if you say so --

All you have to do is pull up the clock and uncheck the box that says
"Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes."
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J.C. Hartmann - 09 Mar 2007 02:43 GMT
>> BIG EFFIN' DEAL.
>> I already go around the house changing clocks, what's one more???
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> that change. Same thing again in the fall. Just change the system once
> and for all and forget about it.

If you are running XP or Vista, and are set up for auto-updating, the
patch is probably already on your system. If you are running another
version of Windows, go to http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst and
follow the prompts to download the necessary files.

Jim
DonnaB shallotpeel - 09 Mar 2007 13:53 GMT
In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:43:18 -0600 in Msg.#
<oIWdnbPZR8tCVG3Y4p2dnA@giganews.com>, "J.C. Hartmann" <jch@meadecom.com>
wrote:

> If you are running XP or Vista, and are set up for auto-updating, the
> patch is probably already on your system. ...

Fantastic!! I'm set.

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Alexander Arnakis - 09 Mar 2007 20:16 GMT
>If you are running XP or Vista, and are set up for auto-updating, the
>patch is probably already on your system. If you are running another
>version of Windows, go to http://support.microsoft.com/gp/cp_dst and
>follow the prompts to download the necessary files.

Microsoft has stopped supporting Windows 98SE (and anything earlier).
I'm still running 98SE. Personally, I think it's a *good* thing that
Microsoft isn't messing with that system any more. I once made the
mistake of installing a bunch of their "security patches," and then
found that some of my software didn't work. I uninstalled some of the
patches, but others couldn't be uninstalled. I ended up reformatting
the hard drive and reinstalling Windows from scratch. It runs much
better without the so-called "updates."
Cheri - 09 Mar 2007 03:09 GMT
Not if you pull it up and unclick auto. I have Windows98. I have many
clocks to change, so those two computer clocks are not a problem for me
at all. The problem as I see it, is DST in the first place. Pick one and
stick with it year round IMO.

Cheri

Alexander Arnakis wrote in message
>OK, here's the problem -- Windows is already set to change to Daylight
>Savings Time (and vice versa) automatically. So if you change your
>computer clock manually on March 11, you'll find that Windows sets the
>clock forward again in April, and then you'd (manually) have to undo
>that change. Same thing again in the fall. Just change the system once
>and for all and forget about it.
BlueBrooke - 09 Mar 2007 04:07 GMT
>Not if you pull it up and unclick auto. I have Windows98. I have many
>clocks to change, so those two computer clocks are not a problem for me
>at all. The problem as I see it, is DST in the first place. Pick one and
>stick with it year round IMO.
>
>Cheri

Now *there's* a novel approach!  
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Grandpa Chuck - 09 Mar 2007 07:46 GMT
>Not if you pull it up and unclick auto. I have Windows98. I have many
>clocks to change, so those two computer clocks are not a problem for me
>at all. The problem as I see it, is DST in the first place. Pick one and
>stick with it year round IMO.
>
>Cheri

LOL
With out clock collection and all of the electronic clocks the last
time I counted we had 47 clocks to change and I know we have added at
least a couple more pieces of electronic equipment that have clock
displays.  Well, on the good side at least in the Spring it is "spring
forward" which is much easier than moving them backwards. The wind up
pendulum clocks I just stop for an hour in the fall.
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Americans killed in Iraq as of March 05, 2007 is 3,188.
United Kingdom = 134 Other = 124.

As of March 8, 2007 it has been 1425 days since Bush
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which was sent
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"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" declared,
"In the Battle of Iraq,
the United States and our allies have prevailed."
IOW "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

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Ma¢k - 09 Mar 2007 16:00 GMT
[Default] On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:46:02 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>>Not if you pull it up and unclick auto. I have Windows98. I have many
>>clocks to change, so those two computer clocks are not a problem for me
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>forward" which is much easier than moving them backwards. The wind up
>pendulum clocks I just stop for an hour in the fall.

Tell me you don't have 47 KooKoo Clocks.

:P

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Grandpa Chuck - 09 Mar 2007 17:55 GMT
>[Default] On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:46:02 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
><GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>:P

Nope. We only have three. One is back here where the computers are.
One is in our bedroom and if we forget to wind it before going to bed
we will wake up if it stops. The third is in a box in the basement
after it fell from the wall. It didn't do any serious damage, but I do
need to do a little gluing. It's the only one that is an eight day
clock; the two we are using are thirty hour clocks so they have to
have the chains pulled every day.

Laurie has been wanting to either buy a grandmother clock or possibly
build on. I have drawn the plan for a grandmother clock case. The
movement will cost about $150 to $300 depending on how fancy she wants
to go with it.
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    ~

Americans killed in Iraq as of March 07, 2007 is 3,189.
United Kingdom = 134 Other = 124.

As of March 9, 2007 it has been 1426 days since Bush
while standing in front of the banner
which was sent
to the ship by the White House that said,
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" declared,
"In the Battle of Iraq,
the United States and our allies have prevailed."
IOW "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis
Ma¢k - 13 Mar 2007 09:38 GMT
[Default] On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:55:57 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
<GrandpaChuck@B4me.org> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>>Tell me you don't have 47 KooKoo Clocks.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>movement will cost about $150 to $300 depending on how fancy she wants
>to go with it.

there's a sun dial out in the yard?

I was typing away on 2 PCs in the office when the time change hit. One
of them updated the other did not.  2 of the 3 other PCs updated
correctly.  That was just the system clocks.  Various machines have
dedicated programs and some of them run clocks independent of the
system clock and of course they did not update.

It was interesting watching IT push the patches remotely on each work
station one after the other.  1st patch to update windows then,
individual patches to fix individual programs.  This all took place
the day before.  We sent them an email listing which terminals did not
update correctly.  And they said it was updated.  Of course what we
know.

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DonnaB shallotpeel - 09 Mar 2007 13:58 GMT
In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:09:58 -0800 in Msg.#
<lq-dnTfX4oBYUm3YnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@inreach.com>, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom>  wrote:

> ... The problem as I see it, is DST in the first place. Pick one and
> stick with it year round IMO.

Totally agree. And, whenever I hear anyone talking about having more
sunshine, having another hour blah blah I have to grit my teeth! There's the
same amount of sunshine no matter what the arbitrary 'laws' and constructs
of what time is called are!

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Ozgirl - 09 Mar 2007 20:46 GMT
> In alt.support.diabetes on Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:09:58 -0800 in Msg.#
> <lq-dnTfX4oBYUm3YnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@inreach.com>, "Cheri"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sunshine, having another hour blah blah I have to grit my teeth!
> There's the same amount of sunshine no matter what the
arbitrary
> 'laws' and constructs of what time is called are!

Yes :) But I tihnk they mean it in the context that is more
daylight for those who work to enjoy.
DonnaB shallotpeel - 09 Mar 2007 21:20 GMT
In alt.support.diabetes on Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:46:39 +1100 in Msg.#
<12v3ht3cka76jeb@news.supernews.com>, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com>
wrote:

> > Totally agree. And, whenever I hear anyone talking about
> having more
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Yes :) But I tihnk they mean it in the context that is more
> daylight for those who work to enjoy.

Oh, I know what they mean but it would be easier to set it one way all year
long & adjust work times!

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Alan S - 09 Mar 2007 22:09 GMT
>> Yes :) But I tihnk they mean it in the context that is more
>> daylight for those who work to enjoy.
>
>Oh, I know what they mean but it would be easier to set it one way all year
>long & adjust work times!

No way! I love daylight saving time for lots of different
reasons - and I'm retired.

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Cheri - 09 Mar 2007 23:18 GMT
Arizona doesn't do DST, and they get along just fine.

Cheri

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>No way! I love daylight saving time for lots of different
>reasons - and I'm retired.
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Alan S - 09 Mar 2007 22:08 GMT
>> ... The problem as I see it, is DST in the first place. Pick one and
>> stick with it year round IMO.
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>same amount of sunshine no matter what the arbitrary 'laws' and constructs
>of what time is called are!

Queensland doesn't have daylight saving. There are actually
people who write to the papers over the border who are
worried about it if it comes in - the curtains will fade
more, skin cancers will increase, the dams will dry up with
that extra hour of sun, the cows' milk will go off - all of
the old saws.

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BlueBrooke - 08 Mar 2007 17:53 GMT
>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
>Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
>remembered to do so).

And . . .  ?

Is this like the
hunt-all-over-the-house-for-the-remote-rather-than-just-getting-up-and-changing-the-channel-on-the-TV
thing?  

As far as I know, you have to change the rest of the clocks in the
house -- or is there some nifty advance on that front, too, that I
missed?  
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Cheri - 08 Mar 2007 18:21 GMT
Yep. I will be changing mine manually, it just doesn't seem like a huge
task to me. :-)

Cheri

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>>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>>
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BlueBrooke - 08 Mar 2007 18:30 GMT
>Yep. I will be changing mine manually, it just doesn't seem like a huge
>task to me. :-)
>
>Cheri

;-)

I just keep thinking I'm missing something here -- LOL!  

Now, having to pump my own gas -- *that* is taking some getting used
to.  Especially in the winter when it's cold and in the summer when
it's hot.  And in the spring when the crickets are out.  And in the
fall when the wind is blowing.  And . . .  
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bj - 08 Mar 2007 18:39 GMT
> Is this like the
> hunt-all-over-the-house-for-the-remote-rather-than-just-getting-up-and-changing-the-channel-on-the-TV
> thing?

It's not all that easy to change the channel manually -- not like when it
was a simple (& easy to find & manipulate!) dial with 13 numbers on it.
bj
Cheri - 08 Mar 2007 18:54 GMT
I dunno.  My TV's have a little door with a channel up or down
indicator, as do the VCR/DVDs, but I don't have big screen or anything,
so can't speak for some of them.

Cheri

bj wrote in message ...
>It's not all that easy to change the channel manually -- not like when it
>was a simple (& easy to find & manipulate!) dial with 13 numbers on it.
>bj
MI - 08 Mar 2007 20:52 GMT
On 3/8/07 9:53 AM, in article n8j0v2ptsairb3g769telkmk92oem0r5k9@4ax.com,

>>> Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> house -- or is there some nifty advance on that front, too, that I
> missed?  

Or get a Mac. Apple sent the patch about a month ago. All done
automatically.

Martha T2 Canada
Cheri - 08 Mar 2007 21:03 GMT
When TPTB send a patch that will turn all the clocks forward and back,
I'll be impressed, otherwise...I'm it. ;-)

Cheri

MI wrote in message ...

>Or get a Mac. Apple sent the patch about a month ago. All done
>automatically.
>
>Martha T2 Canada
yeah-sure - 09 Mar 2007 05:39 GMT
> Or get a Mac. Apple sent the patch about a month ago. All done
> automatically.

Do Macs have color monitors now?

John
Chris Malcolm - 09 Mar 2007 00:54 GMT
>>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>>
>>Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
>>remembered to do so).
>  
> And . . .  ?

> Is this like the
> hunt-all-over-the-house-for-the-remote-rather-than-just-getting-up-and-changing-the-channel-on-the-TV
> thing?  

> As far as I know, you have to change the rest of the clocks in the
> house -- or is there some nifty advance on that front, too, that I
> missed?  

There's a number of ways, such as by phone landline, by LW time
signals, by cell phone ISPs, by GPS, and by AC mains electricity time
signal. That method is many decades old.  The last LW autosetting
clock I bought, the fourth in the house, cost 3.99 UK pounds, so
they're not expensive.

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bj - 09 Mar 2007 02:00 GMT
>> As far as I know, you have to change the rest of the clocks in the
>> house -- or is there some nifty advance on that front, too, that I
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> clock I bought, the fourth in the house, cost 3.99 UK pounds, so
> they're not expensive.

Is it going to change the non-electric things?

What about the manual alarm clock (that's my 3rd backup for these occasions)
to roust me out at 5:30 Sunday morning (to be on time for a race
assignment)? (actually, I have two of these available -- one with a battery,
one windup.)

And then there's the battery-powered clock on the wall -- very old tech,
though not as old as the Grandfather Clock we used to have.
bj
Ma¢k - 09 Mar 2007 15:53 GMT
[Default] On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:53:59 -0600, BlueBrooke <.@.> Giggled
into the madness of usenet:

>>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>>
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>house -- or is there some nifty advance on that front, too, that I
>missed?  

Not all programs use the system clock to record time.  However since
this year it is being changed at a different time than what is
originally programmed you will be changing the system clock and other
programs manually more than 2 times this year.

Now figure out which programs you have that need patches.

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Ozgirl - 08 Mar 2007 21:19 GMT
>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
> Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
> remembered to do so).

Microsoft put out a patch when for what reason I can't
remember now, DST had to be changed to accomodate something
happening here. Surely they will do the same for the US like
they did for this small country down under? :) That way you
were able to keep the time on auto for DST changes.
Alexander Arnakis - 09 Mar 2007 01:40 GMT
>Microsoft put out a patch when for what reason I can't
>remember now, DST had to be changed to accomodate something
>happening here. Surely they will do the same for the US like
>they did for this small country down under? :) That way you
>were able to keep the time on auto for DST changes.

Except that they don't put out patches for products that they no
longer support, such as Windows 98. But the tool for editing the
automatic time changes is right on the Windows distribution CD.
Alan S - 08 Mar 2007 21:36 GMT
>>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
>Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
>remembered to do so).

I, too, change my clocks manually biannually or even
manually semiannually.

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Priscilla H. Ballou - 08 Mar 2007 22:14 GMT
> >>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
> >>
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> I, too, change my clocks manually biannually or even
> manually semiannually.

I suspect it's manually semiannually, or else you'd be off by an hour
for half the time.  Or is it 3/4 of the time.  Aaarrgghh!!  I used to be
able to pull these off the top of my brain.  

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Alan S - 08 Mar 2007 22:22 GMT
>> >>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Priscilla

You may be confusing biannually and biennially:-)

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Priscilla H. Ballou - 08 Mar 2007 22:26 GMT
> >> >>Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You may be confusing biannually and biennially:-)

Ah!  I was thinking it followed the same rule as biweekly vs semiweekly.

Priscilla
yeah-sure - 09 Mar 2007 05:37 GMT
> >Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>
> Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
> remembered to do so).

Good God! ... 2 times?... you mean 2 times in the same year?

John
Actually, it would turn back itself in the fall.
MI - 09 Mar 2007 05:48 GMT
On 3/8/07 9:37 PM, in article
1173418621.839751.184250@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com, "yeah-sure"

>>> Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> John
> Actually, it would turn back itself in the fall.

Yeah, but not on the right day. They've changed that date too‹first Sunday
in November.

Martha T2 Canada
BlueBrooke - 09 Mar 2007 15:32 GMT
>> >Why not just double-click the time and change the hour?
>>
>> Because you'd be doing that manually twice a year (that is, when you
>> remembered to do so).
>
>Good God! ... 2 times?... you mean 2 times in the same year?

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