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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / February 2007Carrots
I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good snack and often eat them raw and cooked. My husband likes them cooked with just some butter added at the end of cooking. He will eat about the equivalent of 4 (or more) medium carrots at a meal and we never counted them as carbs. I was watching a cooking show on the food channel last night, they had a whole show on carrots. He said that carrots had more sugar than any other vegetable except the sugar beet. I looked it up and found that one medium carrot had 4 net carbs. When DH eats them, he is adding 16 or more carbs to his meal, that should be counted. Andrea2 I eat 4 or 5 baby carrots in my salad every day. They are great.... but they do have carbs that need to be taken into account. Jennifer > I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good > snack and often eat them raw and cooked. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andrea2 This post not CC'd by email On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:19:41 GMT, Jennifer <jenniferNOSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote: >I eat 4 or 5 baby carrots in my salad every day. > >They are great.... but they do have carbs that need to be taken into >account. > >Jennifer G'day G'day Jennifer, The absorption of carbohydrate when cooked and raw is markedly different. Best wishes,  SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good > snack and often eat them raw and cooked. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > one medium carrot had 4 net carbs. When DH eats them, he is adding 16 > or more carbs to his meal, that should be counted. How is his blood sugar after eating them? And I suppose it depends on what else is eaten with them. I was told to allow 2 servings of non starchy veg per meal. If I eat 3 then I have to count them as a starch. >>I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good >> snack and often eat them raw and cooked. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> one medium carrot had 4 net carbs. When DH eats them, he is adding 16 >> or more carbs to his meal, that should be counted. > How is his blood sugar after eating them? And I suppose it depends on what > else is eaten with them. I was told to allow 2 servings of non starchy veg > per meal. If I eat 3 then I have to count them as a starch. Cooked carrots (not raw) are one of the food items my meter tells me I have to limit. One big carrot on the dinner plate is too much for me. The same is true of cooked onions, but again not raw ones. Cooking (& cooking method) can make a big difference. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] > Babies whose mothers had diabetes during > pregnancy may be less able to form early memories than children whose > mothers had normal pregnancies, a U.S. researcher said on Friday. I have noticed about the same thing, Chris, although onions don't get me quite as severely as cooked carrots. Will, T2 >>I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good >> snack and often eat them raw and cooked. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >else is eaten with them. I was told to allow 2 servings of non starchy veg >per meal. If I eat 3 then I have to count them as a starch. I don't know what his blood sugar is. He resents my interference in his diet and diabetes control. The only thing I can do is try to fix things that he will eat that aren't too bad for him. I do know that his A1c was up to mid 6 when it was down as low as 5.5 before. I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so she must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much at all. Andrea2 >I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so she >must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much at all. My two used to follow a pattern just long enough for me to become used to it, then change forever without warning... Nicky. T2 DX 05/2004 A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E 100ug Thyroxine >>I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so she >>must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much at all. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E >100ug Thyroxine Misako almost never cries. Sometimes she will go 2 days and never cry once. When she is hungry or needs changing she just lays there and appears to be patiently waiting for attention. I have to set the alarm to wake up and feed and change her. Andrea2 : >>I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so she : >>must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much at all. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : >A1c 5.5% BMI 25 D&E : >100ug Thyroxine : Misako almost never cries. Sometimes she will go 2 days and never cry : once. When she is hungry or needs changing she just lays there and : appears to be patiently waiting for attention. I have to set the alarm : to wake up and feed and change her. : Andrea2 When my babies wee young, I ws told, by the pediarician, never wake a baby to feed it unless it is late at night and you want to go to bed (say 11PM. When they want food, they will let you know. this was in response to the fact that my practically brand new baby di dnot wake the first night he was home until 6 AM for his 2 AM feeding. I was awake and waiting and bouncing around in bed. this is a kid who had an unusually large capacity for his formula (since he was sick at birth I couldn't nurse as no one wuld encourage it back then). He was on 3 enormous bottles full a day before 2 months! He coul dconsume up to 12 oz at a sitting. Very unusual. His younger brother was not the same:-) In any event, if Misako wants to sleep longer let her. If she wants to eat, she will let you know. this soudl also hel her to get on the regular workd food schedule she will use for the rest of her life. Wendy >: >>I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so she >: >>must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much at all. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Wendy I've read that about not waking them up for feeding. Misako is still small, she is 4 months old and only weighs 11 pounds. She won't eat much at one time so I have to feed her more often. I feed her every 3 hours all she will eat. Even at that she only drinks 20-24 ounces a day. I think she was feeding more when she was breast feeding but I can't be sure. To tell the truth, I enjoy the middle of the night feedings and will probably miss them. Aside from being a little underweight she is doing fine. She's the center of attention around here, that's for sure. Andrea2 >>: >>I'm enjoying a middle of the night feeding, Misako was crying so >>: >>she must have been very hungry. She normally don't cry very much >>: >>at all. >>: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>: Misako almost never cries. Sometimes she will go 2 days and never >>: cry once. When she is hungry or needs changing she just lays there >>: and appears to be patiently waiting for attention. I have to set >>: the alarm to wake up and feed and change her. >> >>: Andrea2 >> >>When my babies wee young, I ws told, by the pediarician, never wake a >>baby to feed it unless it is late at night and you want to go to bed >>(say 11PM. When they want food, they will let you know. >> >>this was in response to the fact that my practically brand new baby di >>dnot wake the first night he was home until 6 AM for his 2 AM >>feeding. I was awake and waiting and bouncing around in bed. this >>is a kid who had an unusually large capacity for his formula (since >>he was sick at birth I couldn't nurse as no one wuld encourage it >>back then). He was on 3 enormous bottles full a day before 2 months! >>He coul dconsume up to 12 oz at a sitting. Very unusual. His >>younger brother was not the same:-) >> >>In any event, if Misako wants to sleep longer let her. If she wants >>to eat, she will let you know. this soudl also hel her to get on the >>regular workd food schedule she will use for the rest of her life. >>Wendy > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andrea2 There are calorie products that can be added to formula for babies who cannot take in a lot of volume. 20-24 ounces is a lot less per day than a child that age should be having. Is she underweight for her age or her length? What does the pediatrician say? I personally think a small baby needs feeding around the clock, a larger baby can get away with missing a feed through the night. >There are calorie products that can be added to formula for >babies who cannot take in a lot of volume. 20-24 ounces is a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >feeding around the clock, a larger baby can get away with >missing a feed through the night. She just had her 4-month checkup and shots last week. They said she was in the 10 percentile for length and 5 percentile for weight. If her weight don't catch up he might change her formula. We weigh her at home and she is gaining. She is getting "Enfamil LIPIL ready to use" now. My mother said I was always under the normal length and weight. Today I'm still short, 5'2" about 100 pounds. It is no wonder she won't drink more of that stuff. It tastes terrible, even our dog or cats won't drink it. Andrea2 >>There are calorie products that can be added to formula for >>babies who cannot take in a lot of volume. 20-24 ounces is a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Andrea2 Are the teats bigger than newborn - she might be having to work too hard to get the milk if they are newborn teats and getting too tired before she finishes? If she is short then her weight might be right for her height. As for taste of the milk, breast milk can be like goat's milk, beautiful one day, disgusting the next, babies don't seem to be bothered by different "tastes" in milk. My daughter is breastfeeding but uses formual on occasion - she gets Karicare Gold Plus, it has added fish oil and probiotics, but more expensive than most of the others but she feels it is worth it. Sunny is 8 weeks and 11 pound. But his father and brother are very big people. I just looked at Sunny's growth charts and checked the girl's one, Misako is not underweight for her age. Admittedly she is below "average" but that means nothing, as long as she is still on the chart not off it. One of my sons was off the chart until he was 14. He had a sensitivity to milk proteins, breast, soy, formula, goat's milk, the lot. He threw up after the tiniest amounts of any of the above. He ended up on a made-up formula made of oils and zillions of other things. Extremely expensive and I had to get govt approval to buy it for the cost of a prescription, from memory I got a month's worth on one script. He only got onto growth charts for weight when he hit puberty. Misako is probably going to have your build, petite :) >>>There are calorie products that can be added to formula >for [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >puberty. Misako is probably going to have your build, petite >:) She has Gerber NUK size 1 medium flow silicone nipples. It usually takes her 10 minutes to drink her fill then she won't take any more. She's not getting air, and usually don't burp or spit up. If she does take after me in the size department, I hope she gets her fathers side of the family in the boob department. DH's granddaughter has boobs I'd die for. Maybe someday I'll get up enough courage to get that boob job I've been thinking about for years. Andrea2 mother, Type 2, MDI insulin : >>There are calorie products that can be added to formula : for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] : > : > Andrea2 : Are the teats bigger than newborn - she might be having to : work too hard to get the milk if they are newborn teats and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : age. Admittedly she is below "average" but that means : nothing, as long as she is still on the chart not off it. : One of my sons was off the chart until he was 14. He had a : sensitivity to milk proteins, breast, soy, formula, goat's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : prescription, from memory I got a month's worth on one : script. : He only got onto growth charts for weight when he hit : puberty. Misako is probably going to have your build, petite : :) My under 5', 97 pound daughter had a terrible time with the pediatric nurses qho were checking her baby. The child, at 8-10 months, was in tge cgartsm but in a low percentile and they kept after my daughter about her not feeding the baby correctly and making her feel inadequate as a first time mother. they NEVER looked at HER to notice that SHE was in a very low percentage for adult women and that thee might be some relationship. Andrea, not only are you petite, but Misako was a little early, so started a bit behind on weight. Don't let this get you all nervous, as yu don't want to spread that to the baby, who seems to be a nice, relaxed little girl. Wendy >My under 5', 97 pound daughter had a terrible time with the pediatric >nurses qho were checking her baby. The child, at 8-10 months, was in tge [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Wendy I don't worry about her weight, they told me that as long as she keeps gaining and don't level out of start loosing weight she is fine. Once he told me that I should read the chart one month younger than she actually is because she was early. If I do that she is in the 25 percentile. I do worry sometimes because she don't cry. Then when she does cry, which is sometimes not for 2 days, I think good she is ok. Because she don't tell me when she needs attention, I must check on her 3-4 times an hour. She'll probably start crying some day and I'll wish she would quit. LOL Andrea2 >I do worry sometimes because she don't cry. Then when she does cry, >which is sometimes not for 2 days, I think good she is ok. Because she >don't tell me when she needs attention, I must check on her 3-4 times >an hour. She'll probably start crying some day and I'll wish she would >quit. LOL Wait until she starts talking :D Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.5% BMI 25 According to the USDA website, one medium carrot has 5.84 gr. of carb, and 1.7 gr. of fiber. The fiber content is 29% of the carb content. Carrots are a good source of vitamin A, alpha and beta carotene and lutein. I find that a one medium-carrot snack satisfies my desire for sweets and gives me lots of munching satisfaction. >I have never counted the carbs in carrots, I considered them a good > snack and often eat them raw and cooked. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andrea2 >According to the USDA website, one medium carrot has 5.84 gr. of carb, and >1.7 gr. of fiber. The fiber content is 29% of the carb content. Carrots are >a good source of vitamin A, alpha and beta carotene and lutein. > >I find that a one medium-carrot snack satisfies my desire for sweets and >gives me lots of munching satisfaction. As a low-everything source I use sliced carrot sticks (and celery) in dips for snacks. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Epidaurus >>According to the USDA website, one medium carrot has 5.84 gr. of carb, and >>1.7 gr. of fiber. The fiber content is 29% of the carb content. Carrots are [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg >Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. I ripple-cut a carrot or two, and sprinkle them with onion powder, and a little salt. It makes them seem like something between fresh veggies and a "chip" kind of snack. Very good, and a nice variation, now and then. Alan Moorman Andrea, I dont recall, Is your husband a diabetic. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >Andrea, I dont recall, Is your husband a diabetic. > >Loretta We are both type 2's. Since he don't like any vegetables except cooked carrots and green beans, I thought I was doing the right thing by fixing a lot of carrots. This did keep him from eating a lot of more carby food like potatoes or bread. Andrea2 : >Andrea, I dont recall, Is your husband a diabetic. : > : >Loretta : We are both type 2's. Since he don't like any vegetables except cooked : carrots and green beans, I thought I was doing the right thing by : fixing a lot of carrots. This did keep him from eating a lot of more : carby food like potatoes or bread. : Andrea2 those carrots, which may or may NOT be affecting his bgs are far better than the potatos and bread, so I would keep serving them. Maybe try cooking them tender-crisp with the butter instead of soft cooked as that would partly mitiage the issues of cooked vegetables vs raw. Of course, if he doesn't like them this way tht won't work. How is he with , say, artichokes which let you have soem nice auce , either vinegrette or butter? Wendy >: >Andrea, I dont recall, Is your husband a diabetic. >: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Wendy He likes carrots cooked soft with a little butter and salt. I prefer carrots raw but eat some cooked just to be sociable. When me and DH first joined, our diabetes drew us together. Now it seems that it is diabetes that is driving us apart. I don't dare interfere in his treatment or even inquire about his numbers. We both like artichokes. I recently posted his recipe for stuffed artichokes on alt.food.diabetic. Andrea2 This post not CC'd by email On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:43:30 -0800, Andrea2 <andrea6192001@yahoo.com> wrote: >I was watching a cooking show on the food channel last night, they had >a whole show on carrots. He said that carrots had more sugar than any >other vegetable except the sugar beet. {snip} G'day G'day Andrea, Words, words, words. Carrots do have a high proportion of their carbohydrate as sugar for a vegetable. >Andrea2 If we look in http://www.glycemicindex.com/ click on the Database icon on the left side of the page and enter "carrots" (without "} What we find is interesting. A serving of raw carrots (80 grams) contributes less then one gram of glucose to the blood. Even some cooked carrots contribute less than 4 grams. Be very, very wary of information taken from old databases. Carrots are famous for some early mistaken beliefs that arose from studies performed on a small number of people. Even the Canadian data could suspect since it suggests a high GI which apparently is false. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin |
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