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Hyper/hypo-glycemia?

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kumar - 04 Feb 2007 15:59 GMT
"The glucose test may also be ordered to help diagnose diabetes when
someone has symptoms of *hyperglycemia*, such as:

**Increased thirst
**Increased urination
Fatigue
Blurred vision
Slow-healing infections
or symptoms of *hypoglycemia*, such as:
**Sweating
**Hunger
Trembling
Anxiety
Confusion
Blurred Vision
http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/glucose/test.html
"

Hello,

What ** marked symptoms above can indicate?

How "Hunger" is not a symptom of hyperglycemia but is of hypoglycemia?

How increase thirst and increased urination are symptoms of
hyperglycemia whereas
Sweating(excessive cold sweat) is symptom of hypoglycemia?

Best wises
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Feb 2007 18:01 GMT
> "The glucose test may also be ordered to help diagnose diabetes when
> someone has symptoms of *hyperglycemia*, such as:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> What ** marked symptoms above can indicate?

Diabetes.

> How "Hunger" is not a symptom of hyperglycemia but is of hypoglycemia?

Hunger is required for the overeating that causes the reactive
hypoglycemia that folks with metabolic syndrome (MetS) experience and
returns as folks return to a fasting postprandial state.

Hunger is absent during hyperglycemia when an person with MetS has
just overeaten.

> How increase thirst and increased urination are symptoms of
> hyperglycemia whereas
> Sweating(excessive cold sweat) is symptom of hypoglycemia?

Folks with reactive hypoglycemia become hyperadrenergic in the body's
attempt to restore euglycemia.  Polyuria and polydipsia are related to
each other and arises from glucosuria.

Andrew <><
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Alan Moorman@visi.com - 05 Feb 2007 14:28 GMT
>"The glucose test may also be ordered to help diagnose diabetes when
>someone has symptoms of *hyperglycemia*, such as:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>How "Hunger" is not a symptom of hyperglycemia but is of hypoglycemia?

Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) triggers hunger because your
body is wanting more glucose in its blood.  Hence the hunger

>How increase thirst and increased urination are symptoms of
>hyperglycemia

When your blood glucose is high (hyperglycemia) your body
does its best to get rid of the excess glucose.  Your
kidneys process lots of liquid out of your system in an
efforts to remove the glucose that is in the liquid.  Hence
urination.

And, since your body is dumping liquid, you get thirsty
because that liquid has to be replenished.

>whereas
>Sweating(excessive cold sweat) is symptom of hypoglycemia?

The sweating is one of the symptoms of shock.  If your blood
glucose goes too low, you begin to go into shock, which is a
bad thing.

>Best wises

Hope this helps.

Alan

==

It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death.
I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything
and let the problem take care of itself.

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kumar - 06 Feb 2007 02:57 GMT
On Feb 5, 7:28 pm, Alan Moor...@visi.com wrote:
> On 4 Feb 2007 07:59:26 -0800, "kumar"
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) triggers hunger because your
> body is wanting more glucose in its blood.  Hence the hunger
Thanks.

Yes, but why people with hypeglycemia get too much hunger and
overeat?

> >How increase thirst and increased urination are symptoms of
> >hyperglycemia
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> efforts to remove the glucose that is in the liquid.  Hence
> urination.
This symptom of polydipsia and polyuria goes after some time of
getting diabetes inspite much elevated glucose levels, persistently
esp. when you take medicines and insulin but still persisting
hyperglycemia?
> And, since your body is dumping liquid, you get thirsty
> because that liquid has to be replenished.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> glucose goes too low, you begin to go into shock, which is a
> bad thing.

Yes, but whether vasodilation ocuurs and  blood flow and supply to
tissue is increased on getting hypoglycemia (may be for want of
glucose)  which may cause more water low and increased sweating?
> >Best wises
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
skinny - 15 Feb 2007 19:31 GMT
On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
deficiencies?

Skinny
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:28:36 -0600, Alan  wrote:

/snip/

>>How increase thirst and increased urination are symptoms of
>>hyperglycemia
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> glucose goes too low, you begin to go into shock, which is a
> bad thing.
Ma¢k - 15 Feb 2007 20:04 GMT
>On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
>can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
>other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
>deficiencies?
>
>Skinny

not cross posted to troll newsgroup. please trim your cross posting.

sweating is not going to cause a deficiency.  Malnutrition will.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Feb 2007 23:35 GMT
> On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
> can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
> other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
> deficiencies?

Type-2 diabetes is not caused by undernutrition but by overnutrition.

Andrew <><
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Kumar - 16 Feb 2007 03:06 GMT
On Feb 16, 4:35 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
> > can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
> > other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
> > deficiencies?
>
> Type-2 diabetes is not caused by undernutrition but by overnutrition.
How many sites/referances indicate vitamin/mineral abnormalities in
Type-2 diabetes?

Can't overnutrition cause excesses of few but defficiency of others/
their antagonists?

> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Feb 2007 22:40 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> How many sites/referances indicate vitamin/mineral abnormalities in
> Type-2 diabetes?

None have established a causal relationship between nutritional
deficiencies and the development of type-2 diabetes.

On the other hand, a causal relationship has been established between
overeating, increasing amounts of visceral adipose tissue (VAT), and
the development of metabolic syndrome (MetS) which is leads to type-2
diabetes.

> Can't overnutrition cause excesses of few but defficiency of others/
> their antagonists?

Overeating food does not cause deficiency of any nutrient/vitamin/
mineral.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> > --
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhDhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
kumar - 21 Feb 2007 03:32 GMT
On Feb 21, 3:40 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> the development of metabolic syndrome (MetS) which is leads to type-2
> diabetes.
Had inflammatory cytokines of diabetics2 on medication and not on
medications been checked?
> > Can't overnutrition cause excesses of few but defficiency of others/
> > their antagonists?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Feb 2007 22:47 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Had inflammatory cytokines of diabetics2 on medication and not on
> medications been checked?

The level of inflammatory cytokines in type-2 diabetics is a function
of the amount of VAT and not medication.

Andrew <><
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kumar - 24 Feb 2007 07:29 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> The level of inflammatory cytokines in type-2 diabetics is a function
> of the amount of VAT and not medication.
Probably, diabetic medication programme, while treating hyperglycemia
may promote more energy stores synthesis and less breakdown, which may
stimulate oxidation or inflammatory response?
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Feb 2007 07:35 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> may promote more energy stores synthesis and less breakdown, which may
> stimulate oxidation or inflammatory response?

It is the overeating that results in the formation of VAT and not
medications.

Medications that are helpful will improve health making folks
hungrier.

It is those who remain brainwashed to falsely believe that "hunger is
bad" who will be compelled to overeat.

This latter compulsion will remain irrational.

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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kumar - 26 Feb 2007 08:22 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> This latter compulsion will remain irrational.
Ok, thanks.
> Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Feb 2007 18:10 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Ok, thanks.

You are welcome.

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soul, mind, and strength.

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spamfree@spam.heaven - 18 Feb 2007 09:39 GMT
>> On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
>> can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
>> other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
>> deficiencies?
>
>Type-2 diabetes is not caused by undernutrition but by overnutrition.

Only overnutrition of energy.

jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 20 Feb 2007 22:40 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Only overnutrition of energy.

Where there is overeating of food, there is overnutrition.  Food, by
definition, provides more than energy.

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
skinny - 20 Feb 2007 23:37 GMT
>> On a tangent: It's common knowledge that sweating and increased urination
>> can both deplete some vitamins and minerals. Does anyone know of studies or
>> other documentation of a link between diabetes and vitamin/mineral
>> deficiencies?
>
> Type-2 diabetes is not caused by undernutrition but by overnutrition.

I was thinking of vitamin/mineral deficiencies that might be caused by
diabetes (or by diabetes medications).

Skinny
...Ken - 21 Feb 2007 01:11 GMT
> I was thinking of vitamin/mineral deficiencies that might be caused by
> diabetes (or by diabetes medications).
>
> Skinny

I don't have the articles at hand, but I understand that chromium and zinc
are two minerals that we may have at lower levels than is ideal.

                                                                    ...Ken
 
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