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sharppointy1 - 26 Dec 2006 13:49 GMT
Happy Boxing day, all :-)
So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
nurse for 30+ years.  I have  good knowledge of how to eat properly and
exercise to keep my Type 2 diabetes in control. WHY DON'T I DO IT,
THEN???
I have periods of eating well and exercising and taking my diabetes
medicines as needed and then I fall off the wagon.  My most recent fall
began this summer after foot surgery, when I was unable to exercise.  I
was also feeling sorry for myself, and I started eating things I
shouldn't.  This behavior continues to this day.  I can "get away" with
no exercise and a poor diet for awhile (most recent a1c was 6.1) but my
blood sugars creep up, I start to feel bad, I quit testing because I
don't want to see "those" numbers and I let myself go to hell.
It's not depression - I know that all too well, and take my medicines
for it.  I get the fuckits - I'm just going to eat what I want and not
exercise and pretend I don't have diabetes.
Anyone else do this self destructive dance?  Anyone with good tips on
how to remotivate myself YET AGAIN, please chime in.  I'm posting today
because I have been eating all kinds of terrible things and I don't
feel well now.  It has caught up to me.  I am going to the store for
veggies this morning and I will go to the gym when I get off this
board.
I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
Barbara, who is annoyed with herself
ray - 26 Dec 2006 16:48 GMT
> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

No offense, but I'm wondering what criteria you're using for 'eating
properly'. I'm with Dr. Bernstein (Diabetes Solution) when he asserts that
most of what we've learned about proper diet is wrong. I went on a low
carb diet a year and a half ago, and I've not really had any particular
inclination to leave it. I do have to kick myself every once in a while
about to the exercise, and from time to time I need to remind myself that
snacks - of any variety - will invariably result in higher BG values. But
other than that, I'm doing pretty well in maintaining the regimen.
sharppointy1 - 26 Dec 2006 17:30 GMT
Ray
Eating sensibly to me means a combination of foods with minimal
processing, trying to keep the carbs per meal no greater than 45,
reducing the amount of red meat I normally consume, and increasing the
veggies, fish and chicken.  In addition to DIABEETEEZ I also have its
close buddy abnormal lipid levels, so I need to avoid the bad fats and
concentrate on good things like ollive oil.  I have found that when I
reduce carbs, the craving ease up after several days and then its
easier to avoid them.  I made a connection between post Byetta nausea &
curing it with carbs, so this is a tricky area for me to get balance.
I'm going out for a walk in the sunshine :-)

> > Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> > So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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> snacks - of any variety - will invariably result in higher BG values. But
> other than that, I'm doing pretty well in maintaining the regimen.
Cheri - 26 Dec 2006 17:10 GMT
Raising my hand here. I've done it too at times. I think not feeling
well is the biggest motivator to quit it, but it always starts out with
just a bit of this and just a dab of that. There are some things that I
just shouldn't try to eat sparingly. It doesn't work for me, and it
snowballs. :-)
--
Cheri

sharppointy1 wrote in message
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>Happy Boxing day, all :-)
>So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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>I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
>Barbara, who is annoyed with herself
sharppointy1 - 26 Dec 2006 17:34 GMT
Hiya Cheri
That's what gets me - trying this & that, with no changes in my blood
sugars either immediately or long term, and then relaxing my
watchfulness until I DO start getting blood sugar changes.  I cleared
most of the junk out of my kitchen & brought it to work this morning.
I want to keep in mind how yucky I felt last night, as a good reminder
of why I want to eat better and exercise.
I hope you have a fun day!

> Raising my hand here. I've done it too at times. I think not feeling
> well is the biggest motivator to quit it, but it always starts out with
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> >I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> >Barbara, who is annoyed with herself
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 18:36 GMT
> Raising my hand here. I've done it too at times. I think not feeling
> well is the biggest motivator to quit it, but it always starts out with
> just a bit of this and just a dab of that. There are some things that I
> just shouldn't try to eat sparingly. It doesn't work for me, and it
> snowballs. :-)

I never do it more than once in a very great while.  I veered just a bit
off plan yesterday, and feel like crap today, a good reminder that it's
just not worth it.

Plus, no way am I letting those extra lbs creep back onto my arse, after
the year of illness I endured that got rid of them.  :-)

Susan
Cheri - 26 Dec 2006 18:47 GMT
I have bad days here and there, I try not to string them into more than
a couple of days in a row, but I've struggled more than usual this
Holiday Season. All the "stuff" is gone today, sent home with others,
and I'm glad it's over. We usually don't do anything on New Years Eve
anymore, so that's it for now. Happy New Year Susan. :-)

--
Cheri

>I never do it more than once in a very great while.  I veered just a bit
>off plan yesterday, and feel like crap today, a good reminder that it's
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>
>Susan
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 19:03 GMT
> I have bad days here and there, I try not to string them into more than
> a couple of days in a row, but I've struggled more than usual this
> Holiday Season. All the "stuff" is gone today, sent home with others,
> and I'm glad it's over. We usually don't do anything on New Years Eve
> anymore, so that's it for now. Happy New Year Susan. :-)

All I kept from yesterday is ham (lots of leftover ham!), champagne and
brie.  I sent about 10 lbs of cake and pastry to work with Tom today.

New years eve will be champagne and caviar, no carby sweets (I may make
a sf boule de neige, though).

Healthy, happy 2007 to you, Cheri, and to us all.

Susan
Cheri - 26 Dec 2006 19:17 GMT
I hadn't heard of that, so I looked it up on Google. That sounds really
good.

--
Cheri

>(I may make
>a sf boule de neige, though).
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 19:36 GMT
> I hadn't heard of that, so I looked it up on Google. That sounds really
> good.

It's too die for, Cheri, and with xylitol or an AS, pretty low carb.  I
make it very bittersweet, with strong espresso flavor.

Susan
W. Baker - 26 Dec 2006 21:21 GMT
: x-no-archive: yes

: > I hadn't heard of that, so I looked it up on Google. That sounds really
: > good.

: It's too die for, Cheri, and with xylitol or an AS, pretty low carb.  I
: make it very bittersweet, with strong espresso flavor.

: Susan

Recipe! Recipe!!!!!!!

Happy New Year.

Wendy
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 21:45 GMT
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>
> Wendy

Recipe for Boule de Neige (Ball of Snow)

10 oz. semi sweet chocolate
1 cup sugar (I use xylitol) or favorite artificial sweetener
2 1/2 sticks butter
3/4 cup strong coffee

Melt the above in a saucepan.  Whisk in:

4 beaten eggs

Line mold (I use a medium sized mixing metal mixing bowl) with foil, and
pour in batter.  Place mold in pan with 1" of water, bake at 350 F for 1
1/4 hours (it will look loose).  Refrigerate overnight after cooling.

Cover with fresh whipped cream (I don't sweeten it) just before serving.

Susan
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 21:46 GMT
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>>
>> Wendy

And happy new year to you, too, Wendy!

Susan
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 21:54 GMT
> Recipe for Boule de Neige (Ball of Snow)
>
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> pour in batter.  Place mold in pan with 1" of water, bake at 350 F for 1
> 1/4 hours (it will look loose).  Refrigerate overnight after cooling.

I left out this step.  Unmold and remove foil before doing the following:

> Cover with fresh whipped cream (I don't sweeten it) just before serving.
>
> Susan
Cheri - 26 Dec 2006 22:08 GMT
Thanks Susan, that looks great...and easy. :-)

--
Cheri

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>> Susan
Susan - 26 Dec 2006 22:11 GMT
> Thanks Susan, that looks great...and easy. :-)

It's a lazy cook's dream, Cheri. and always opens to raves.  :-)

Susan
W. Baker - 26 Dec 2006 22:22 GMT
: x-no-archive: yes

: > Recipe for Boule de Neige (Ball of Snow)
: >
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: > pour in batter.  Place mold in pan with 1" of water, bake at 350 F for 1
: > 1/4 hours (it will look loose).  Refrigerate overnight after cooling.

: I left out this step.  Unmold and remove foil before doing the following:

: > Cover with fresh whipped cream (I don't sweeten it) just before serving.
: >
: > Susan

Obvious enough:-)  

Recipe looks delicious, but I may stick with my tofu-mousse with the
bitter baking chocolae and silken tofu and AS.  Less overwhealmingly
caloric:-)  Recently took off 12 lbs and only put back 2 over holiday
partying and want to move down again.  

Barbara, you should look at this recipe as it is also parev and is to die
for:-)  Satisfies the sweetest tooth.

Wendy
Chris Malcolm - 27 Dec 2006 15:42 GMT
Not sure what to call this. I invented it after eating an expensive
shop-bought version. It went down well with non-diabetic sweet lovers.

Basically Greek Yoghurt with half as much of a spicy fig & black
cherry compote.

For each persom:

Cut six black cherries off the stone into lumps, slice one soft dried
fig into similar lumps, squash down into bottom of small dish. Add
just enough water to cover. Stir in some squeezed ginger root juice,
pepper, and cinnamon or nutmeg. Bring to boil and simmer a bit until
syrupy. Cool and place in fridge.

Spices vary according to taste. Fruit vary according to taste and meter.

Serve with twice as much Greek Yoghurt on top. Eat slowly, you're not
having another one!

Don't make more than one each at a time :-)

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bj - 26 Dec 2006 23:21 GMT
>I have bad days here and there, I try not to string them into more than
> a couple of days in a row, but I've struggled more than usual this
> Holiday Season. All the "stuff" is gone today, sent home with others,
> and I'm glad it's over. We usually don't do anything on New Years Eve
> anymore, so that's it for now. Happy New Year Susan. :-)

My recent New Year's Eve/Day "tradition" (when I haven't been laid low by
some bug) has been NYE 5k run (MADD benefit; late afternoon) then NYD 5k
race volunteer (mid morning). Fresh air, exercise, & virtue-points!
Look around, most metro areas probably have some similar events either NYE
or NYD.
bj
pebbleman3@yahoo.com - 28 Dec 2006 00:09 GMT
I too veer for a couple days here and there. This year I ate too many
cookies. I was amazed that my glucose never topped 200 after eating all
that stuff. I guess its time to get back to eating apples and grains
again. Boy were the cookies great though!

> I have bad days here and there, I try not to string them into more than
> a couple of days in a row, but I've struggled more than usual this
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> >
> >Susan
Michelle - 27 Dec 2006 18:22 GMT
Cheri, I'm with you on that one.  I just NEVER eat foods that I know
have caused carb cravings in the past, although I probably could tolerate
small amounts BG-wise.  Too easy to get back on that carb craving
rollercoaster, and end up feeling like crap.
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> Raising my hand here. I've done it too at times. I think not feeling
> well is the biggest motivator to quit it, but it always starts out with
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>>I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
>>Barbara, who is annoyed with herself
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Dec 2006 17:16 GMT
> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

Jolanna is no less reasonably intelligent as you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp

May you be more blessed in 2007:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

As are those who are walking with LORD Jesus Christ:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee

May GOD continue to heal our heart with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor
Barbara whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
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Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
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Pastor Kutchie - 26 Dec 2006 19:27 GMT
Cyberstalking pervert Earthquack, who poses as a cardiologist wrote:

> > Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> > So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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>
> May you be more blessed in 2007:

May Earthquack be allergic to prison food.
rk - 26 Dec 2006 17:26 GMT
: Happy Boxing day, all :-)
: So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
: I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
: Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

I call it being human.
sharppointy1 - 26 Dec 2006 17:35 GMT
DANG!   I so want perfection...
Sound of Barbara giggling at herself :-)

> : Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> : So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> I call it being human.
Anil - 26 Dec 2006 19:05 GMT
Reisa (RK) wrote:
> > I call it being human.

Perfect answer Reisa, in more ways than one! We can not deny our
inheritance! How did we get here? How many years of evolutionary forces
are influencing our eating drives.  The more you acknowledge it the
more you are likely to succeed.

Being a vegan I had so many challenges to come up with a diet that
would not spike and yet will address my nutritional needs. So I came up
with following rules for myself:

    A. Exercise is not a choice. Do it every day. Do it excessively.

    B. I will always eat delicious food. Enjoy what I eat!
    C. I will start experimenting with new foods that I have not tried
before
        and are known to be nutritious and healing in nature.
    D. My wife will be my partner in crime all the way :-)
    E. All rules above are equal. There will be no exception.

I have come up with at least two sweet things that I enjoy and handle
in small quantities. 70% Chocolate and A sweet dish I make out of whole
Sesame seeds (ref: http://tinyurl.com/y29vdc)

Eating soaked Peanuts and almonds as often as I want tend to take th
edge out of the drive to break the burden.

Yes it is a struggle. I must say it is much less burdensome now than
what it was a year ago. I truly enjoy eating healthy food. and I must
admit starting the diabetes discovery journey with PN (peripheral
neuropathy) sure keeps me on a very short leash. There is nothing more
painful at least so it seems!

Touch wood so far I have been very much on track with A1c between 5.2
and 5.8. I know enough to know part of that success may very well be
related to being just lucky enough to have enough beta cells to fight
my battles. The rules stated above surely do the lion's share in
keeping my life on happy track!

I would strongly urge you to get on a routine that has plenty of
healthy and tasty choices.
As to the will power? Now thats tough one! Between the carrot and stick
approach, I use stick ( Read and internalize what the horrible side
effects are)  more often to keep myself in the groove. As I said PN
surely does not allow me to forget how far I can wonder!

So Barbara, let the new year bring a new start and awaken a new
motivated you!

Anil
T2DM
Dx 06/2005
Loretta Eisenberg - 26 Dec 2006 18:28 GMT
Barbara, I was going to say dont be so hard on yourself.  That everyone
has periods of this kind of behavior,   I cant do that Barbara  From
the summer to now is not an indiscretion, it is a self destruction as
you know.  I think you need to find out whats not working in your life
that is causing you to behave this way.  Personal problems do lead us
down the path of what do I give a crap about this.

You sound like you have it together in all your posts, but I guess no
one does.  Are you getting sick from overeating on the byetta or are you
not tkaing meds at all.

I visited my friend in the hospital yesterday and in the next bed was a
woman who lost her leg to diabetes.  Maybe you need to visit a hospital
and see those who are on dialysis, have heart conditions, lost their
limbs.  You need a wake up call and I think you need to talk to someone
who can help you find out what is going on with you.

I mean this with all the best intentions.  I dont want to lose you
because of diabetes.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
sharppointy1 - 27 Dec 2006 18:12 GMT
Hiya Loretta
I am taking my medicines - my only complaint is that I have learned
that my Byetta nausea can be "cured" by eating carbs, and once i start
I havew a hard time stopping.  Measured out numbers of crackers plus
some protein is a better way for me to deal with the frequent nausea.
I know one cause of the "fuckits"- stress from my step daughter and her
8 & 4 year old moving in last week.  I haven't had mental conversations
keep me awake in a long time, and that particular pain in the a.s is
back with this increased stress.  One way to shut up the chatter so I
can sleep is to use drugs, which is not an option.  Another is to carb
my brain to sleep...darn it, also not an option.  When this insomnia
plagued me in the past, I read/looked at architecture books to quietly
distract & amuse myself.  Still have the books - I'll pull those out
again:-)
My AA sponsor reminded me that every year at this time I struggle some.
My sobriety date is tomorrow, 12/28 - I'll have 7 years clean & sober.
I hadn't remembered that I usually have a hard time this time of year,
but when I think about it, she's right.
Yesterday I did much better vis a vis my food intake. Got the junk here
to work (and it's all gone in other people's stomachs). I ate
rationally - my pre-lunch BS was 95.  Testing once a day was my baby
step yesterday - today I'll do it twice!  Went for several short walks
as it was sunny & warm outside.
OK - I'm off to a meeting and lunch with veggies :-)
Barbara

> Barbara, I was going to say dont be so hard on yourself.  That everyone
> has periods of this kind of behavior,   I cant do that Barbara  From
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> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
Loretta Eisenberg - 27 Dec 2006 23:44 GMT
Barbara, many many people suffer from sad or winter blues.  I am finding
it very hard around this time of year.  I remember I have been happier,
I am glad for your seven years of sobriety  Look, if you can lick
liquor, you will lick carbs.  I know if I start with carbs, I cant stop
until there isnt a drop left.  I cant have cookies because I dont know
how to eat one.  People can live without alcohol, but we all need to eat
I would imagine that addictive personalities, including myself, find it
very difficult to stop eating.

I am surprised that you are still have the nausea with the byetta.  what
dose are you on.  I am on the ten now, but if that is causing you nausea
perhaps you might want to go back to five.

Two crackers should work instead of a whole stack.  It is hard but you
are a fighter and this will pass too.

again, congrats on seven years of sobriety.  Look if the stepdaughter is
causing stress, dont let it make you non compliant,  You wouldnt want
her to win the battle of the wits.

just my opinion.  Listen my stepdaugher got her father to leave me and
move in with her in Florida.  watch out for stepchildren. lol

Listen there is more to my husband leaving than just his daughter.  She
just gave him the way out.

Life goes on

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
W. Baker - 26 Dec 2006 21:18 GMT
: Happy Boxing day, all :-)
: So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
: I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
: Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

Barbara,

glad you wrote, as this is one of the main purposes of a group like this.  
I find reading here everyday helps keep me "behaving" as I see all the
people who are equally concerned abou ttrying to keep themselves in good
shape, diabetes wise and it makes me feel less alone.  Works for me.

For your case, stop kicking yourself .  that only leads to saying, what
the he--  I've been so bad I might as well just continue.  Get some low
carb, treaty stuff like a good rib steak or try my diabetic spachetti made
with whole string beans, tomato sauce of your choice and kosher beef
Italian hot sausages that you can defat in the microwave by poking  some
holes in the skin and zapping for 2-3 minutes.  then add to the beans and
sauce and heat and eat!!  Get rid of all the junk you have been eating,
even wasting your money by throwing it out!!!  Try to gain control, first
in the grocery store and then at home.  think of your eyes, your feet,
your heart and how we all are pulling for you here.  

If you do "fall" and eat something you know you shouldn't, do saym Oh what
the heck, I might as well count this day a loss.  try to immediately climb
back on the wagon adn finish teh day in fine form.  

If you are tempted, get onto the computer and write to us instead.  this
helped  me when I stopped smking.  I had a friend who had recently quite
and I wuld phone her instead of taking that cigarette.  It helps.  

Go to it girl!  I know you can do it.

Wendy
Ma¢k - 27 Dec 2006 03:17 GMT
[Default] On 26 Dec 2006 05:49:23 -0800, "sharppointy1"
<sharppointy1@yahoo.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>Happy Boxing day, all :-)
>So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
>Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

welcome to what we commonly and affectionately refer to as the human
experience.

you are no different than anyone else.  and just like everyone else
you keep picking yourself up and moving on.

as to good tips.. get an exercise partner.  doing it alone makes it
easy to slack off.

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[Default] On 26 Dec 2006 05:49:23 -0800, "sharppointy1"
<sharppointy1@yahoo.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>Happy Boxing day, all :-)
>So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman,

must resist, must not say what came to mind....

must hit the escape button, must get out of thread before it's too
late....

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sharppointy1 - 28 Dec 2006 00:35 GMT
Mack, you goofball, now you have me wondering & wondering what you
didn't say :-)  I am impressed with your ability to control your typing
fingers, hee hee hee.

> [Default] On 26 Dec 2006 05:49:23 -0800, "sharppointy1"
> <sharppointy1@yahoo.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
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> me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
> .
Ma¢k - 28 Dec 2006 15:27 GMT
[Default] On 27 Dec 2006 16:35:36 -0800, "sharppointy1"
<sharppointy1@yahoo.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:

>Mack, you goofball, now you have me wondering & wondering what you
>didn't say :-)  I am impressed with your ability to control your typing
>fingers, hee hee hee.

not saying.

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Craig - 27 Dec 2006 04:42 GMT
> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

Hi Barbara,

It's easy to rationalize; isn't it?  I've been  for a bit of a tumble off
the same wagon this Christmas too - not really over indulging in anything in
particular, but just can't be bothered to test for a while... can't be
bothered to exercise (which is really what keeps my numbers down)  and I
guess like you, the mentality is...how long can I "get away" with this?
For me (although I'd like to think otherwise right now) the short answer
is:- "Not very long".

Going back to where it is painful to put  a sock or shoe on or walk on the
ground, or have to walk down each row of a carpark to see where your car is
parked ( because you cannot distinguish it from a distance), and knowing the
potential results of allowing the symptoms of greater harm to appear is not
something worth contemplating or indulging for any period.

Most of those here (myself included) want to encourage you and support you
to get back on track.Hang in there and keep on posting! Everyone who is
honest can use a bit of a prod to get remotivated now and again.  How did
your workout go BTW?

Best Wishes,
Craig, Type 2
NSW, Australia
Julie Bove - 27 Dec 2006 06:56 GMT
> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

I think that's a pretty common scenario.  I don't exercise like I should
because I have additional health problems.  Most recently I threw my back
out.  I exercise when I *can* but most of the time I can't.  I am also on
disability and I think people tend to forget that (myself included) because
most of the time I *look* perfectly normal.  There have been times when my
fibromyalgia or some other malady is acting up and people might ask me what
is wrong.  They'll say things like, "What did you do to your leg?  Or foot?"
Or whatever part of me they think is acting up.  Sometimes these are the
same people I see on a regular basis.  So going by that I must assume that
most of the time I do not look like there is anything wrong with me.  But I
know I can't walk very far or do very much because if I do, I will simply
get stuck wherever I am and need assistance.  So I do try to pace myself.

As for the eating, that's a very sore subject for me.  My dad and my brother
both have diabetes and their BG seems to rarely budge above 80 no matter
what they eat.  Every once in a while I just say to myself, they are eating
it.  I should be able to too!  But my body doesn't work that way.  In fact
most of the time I eat very little.  I never eat lunch unless I am out with
my daughter or my parents or other people who eat lunch.  And then I dread
it the entire time because so much as a small green salad with no dressing
will send my BG through the roof.  I eat very little breakfast and just
tough out the hunger until dinner time, where once again I have to eat less
than I feel I need.  Yes, I am losing weight but I am losing weight because
I am not eating enough and my BG still isn't where I want it to be.  I am on
the max dose of two meds and my body produces plenty of insulin.

I did have very normal numbers for the brief period of time when I was off
the diuretic.  So I am pretty sure that is the cause of the numbers that are
too high.  Yet I need it because without it I swell so much I can't put on
my shoes and my compression hose cut into my legs.

I don't have the answer.  I just don't know.

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Shawn Hirn - 27 Dec 2006 12:01 GMT
> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
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> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

I suggest that you may find the answer to your question by consulting
with a psychotherapist. You may have a subconscious desire to harm
yourself. Members of the health care profession are no less immune to
mental issues than anyone else.
Chris Malcolm - 27 Dec 2006 16:25 GMT
>> Happy Boxing day, all :-)
>> So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>> I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
>> Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

> I suggest that you may find the answer to your question by consulting
> with a psychotherapist. You may have a subconscious desire to harm
> yourself. Members of the health care profession are no less immune to
> mental issues than anyone else.

On the other hand she might merely be climbing a difficult slope where
one sometimes slips backwards. It does often happen that the
difficulties we face in life are practical rather than
psychological. When I stumble I do usually find the reason on the
ground rather than in my head.

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Blkbear - 31 Dec 2006 14:56 GMT
>Happy Boxing day, all :-)
>So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
>nurse for 30+ years.  I have  good knowledge of how to eat properly and
>exercise to keep my Type 2 diabetes in control. WHY DON'T I DO IT,
>THEN???
.....
>Anyone else do this self destructive dance?  Anyone with good tips on
>how to remotivate myself YET AGAIN, please chime in.  I'm posting today
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>I hope everyone survived Christmas well and enjoyed themselves.
>Barbara, who is annoyed with herself

Howdy Barbara,

For me it's pretty simple.  I do what I do to control my diabetes.
For me it's like taking a shower or brushing my teeth.  It's one of
the things I do.  

DO I like having to exercise everyday?  Nope, but it's my RX for blood
glucose control?  DO I like eating better? Yes, yes I do, it's what
helped allow me to lose a ton of weight, and keep it off, as well as
it helps me keep my glucose in control much easier.

I look at the money and time, I spend on eating better, a trainer
every once and a while, the gym, not eating like I was a 13 year old
in snack food heaven, as a pretty good way of spending my time and
money, vs what I could be spending on meds and doctors visits.

I know that exercise does not help everyone, nor does eating a better
diet help everyone, in the same manner that it helps me. But for me
it's a what I need to do, while I'm able to do it, as for long as I'm
able to do it. Just like taking a shower and brushing my teeth.

As for you question...
>So, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, practicing as a registered
>nurse for 30+ years.  I have  good knowledge of how to eat properly and
>exercise to keep my Type 2 diabetes in control. WHY DON'T I DO IT,
>THEN???

Because it's easier to NOT do, what you know you need to do.  Old
habits die hard. Took me a while to get in track and stay on track.
For me the personal motivation is a pair of size 64 inch waist jeans,
tacked to my bedroom wall.  I was taking a shower everyday and
brushing my teeth when I was that heavy as well. The only difference
from then and now, is I spent very little time eating better, or
exercising. I also know I have diabetes and I know what works for me
in controlling it.  What doesn't work for me, is many of my old eating
and exercise habits. I consider myself lucky, only in the fact that I
know what works for me as far as diet, testing and exercise goes.

Da Bear
 
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