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Andrea2 - 16 Dec 2006 21:03 GMT
This morning I decided to bike over to the lake to jog around the
shore. It is my favorite place to jog and I haven't gone there in a
long time. After I had jogged along the south shore I started feeling
a hypo coming on, after testing low I ate 3 glucose tabs. The hypo
went away and I jogged back to my bike. I was feeling a little shaky
so I decided to call my husband to pick me up so I wouldn't have to
bike home. It is up hill all the way home and I didn't feel up to it.

When he arrived he was very upset, and was yelling at me for being so
foolish. A week ago there was an attempted rape on this very trail. I
knew about it but had thought they caught the man. It seems there was
another rape of a woman at a bus stop a short distance from here by a
different man. He was caught but the man involved in the earlier
attempt has not been caught.

I have been coming here for years, it is a beautiful place, especially
early in the morning. I would jog/run usually all the way around the
lake then bike home. Now I can't do that any more because of the
danger from a few sick men. The world is changing and not for the
good, people are not safe any more. The woman that got raped in the
second incident was raped right after she got off a bus in broad
daylight. It happened a few feet from the bus stop. The woman in the
lake incident only escaped by repeatedly biting her assailant.

Andrea2
Type 2, MDI insulin, mother
Nicky - 16 Dec 2006 21:42 GMT
> I have been coming here for years, it is a beautiful place, especially
> early in the morning. I would jog/run usually all the way around the
> lake then bike home. Now I can't do that any more because of the
> danger from a few sick men.

I see-saw between being sensible and staying in (serial murderer in my
neighbourhood atm) and refusing to let fear limit me. When I go out I try
not to go alone, and I try and plan a route that keeps me near people - but
I WILL NOT barricade myself in my house because of some sick idiot's
perversions.

Nicky.

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Michelle - 17 Dec 2006 02:09 GMT
The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is this
the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your precautions
sound sensible.  Just don't be out alone--especially after dark.  (I don't
suppose carrying a concealed weapon, like a gun, is an option in England?
;-)
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>> I have been coming here for years, it is a beautiful place, especially
>> early in the morning. I would jog/run usually all the way around the
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>
> Nicky.
Nicky - 17 Dec 2006 17:31 GMT
> The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is
> this the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your
> precautions sound sensible.  Just don't be out alone--especially after
> dark.  (I don't suppose carrying a concealed weapon, like a gun, is an
> option in England?

Yup, same loony. Carrying a weapon would not be conducive to a life of
freedom... unless it's something you would carry normally. You can do
interesting things with a bunch of keys, or a plastic biro. Karate today
taught new ways to fight off a strangler... I got home and taught them to my
daughters, who skipped class today; my 12yo showed me the counter to the
escape : (

One time some unfortunate kid tried to attack me on my way home from
college. I was working on the student newspaper, and I was carrying a 3-foot
steel ruler home to do some old-fashioned cut-and-paste. He got it right
across the chest; I assume he got up again, I didn't hang around to find
out... Wish I had an excuse to carry one again. Even a pepper spray could
get you into trouble.

Nicky.

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bj - 17 Dec 2006 19:43 GMT
> One time some unfortunate kid tried to attack me on my way home from
> college. I was working on the student newspaper, and I was carrying a
> 3-foot steel ruler home to do some old-fashioned cut-and-paste. He got it
> right across the chest; I assume he got up again, I didn't hang around to
> find out... Wish I had an excuse to carry one again. Even a pepper spray
> could get you into trouble.

Carry one of those rulers anyway. Just say you're sentimental about "The Old
Days".
:-)
bj
Nicky - 17 Dec 2006 22:09 GMT
>> One time some unfortunate kid tried to attack me on my way home from
>> college. I was working on the student newspaper, and I was carrying a
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> Carry one of those rulers anyway. Just say you're sentimental about "The
> Old Days".

:D  I guess I could carry the 8Kg dumbbells I'm swinging these days. Even if
I dropped it on his foot it would dissuade an attacker : )

Nicky.

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guy - 19 Dec 2006 00:56 GMT
>The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is this
>the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your precautions
>sound sensible.  Just don't be out alone--especially after dark.  (I don't
>suppose carrying a concealed weapon, like a gun, is an option in England?
>;-)

I am a very old man but I have often been amazed that
women will go along with a person that they know
nothing about.    

Please note the women killed by nuts are mostly
prostitutes. or similar women.

The greatest risk to any "partner" is disease.

I used to know a health care person that traced
venereal disease.   Frequently the infection source
led to twenty or thirty partners possibilities by proxy.
Damn well better worry about this. first.  Jack the ripper
types are rare.
Needs to be said.
Andrea2 - 19 Dec 2006 01:32 GMT
>>The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is this
>>the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your precautions
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I don't agree with you about the risks to women. Three years ago I was
followed by a man in a pickup truck while biking home. I tried not to
let him know where I lived by going down the wrong street and cutting
across where he couldn't follow. He saw me anyway and parked in front
of my house for 5 minutes. I was afraid to go out of the house even in
the daytime. I would get in my car, lock the doors before I opened the
garage door and reverse when I got home.

Now there is a rapist attacking women in the jogging trail near my
house. I can't go jogging there anymore, an activity that I really
enjoyed. Maybe I should get a gun and learn how to shoot it.

Andrea2
Cheri - 19 Dec 2006 03:21 GMT
I don't think that would be a good idea Andrea, especially since you
said a few short days ago that your emotions are all over the place.
Guns and severe mood swings don't mix, and you could end up getting hurt
yourself. Maybe you can find a jogging partner instead. Be careful.

--
Cheri
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>Now there is a rapist attacking women in the jogging trail near my
>house. I can't go jogging there anymore, an activity that I really
>enjoyed. Maybe I should get a gun and learn how to shoot it.
>
>Andrea2
guy - 19 Dec 2006 08:11 GMT
>>>The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is this
>>>the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your precautions
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>
>Andrea2

We have lost sight that privilege and responsibility go together.

We have allowed our desire to be free from all restraints seduce us
into some anarchy.   I actually met a young bar owner. named
Larry Flynt. many years ago.  See how he worked out  Ugh.

I do remember after WW2, we could walk the streets at
any hour.   Problems were rare,.

Today we have self induced problems.

I suggest that shoving sick people around a hospital
or community centers or the many group effort we see
will work better that some of the popular exercise activities.
Hi_Therre - 19 Dec 2006 15:29 GMT
>>>>The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is this
>>>>the serial murderer you are talking about?  In any case, your precautions
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>I do remember after WW2, we could walk the streets at
>any hour.   Problems were rare,.

I walk all hours, and have no problems.  The only problem I experience
is when I trip over broken pavement.  Landing on your face is no fun.
There is no comparison in walking outdoors vs walking indoors. Indoors
is boring.
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Nicky - 19 Dec 2006 08:52 GMT
>>The "Suffolk Strangler" has been making the papers here in Nevada.  Is
>>this
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> women will go along with a person that they know
> nothing about.

The guy they've arrested is a part-time policeman and a long-time customer.
He sounds well educated, pleasant, and the prostitutes who are still giving
interviews describe him as a gentle giant. He was a good friend to many of
them, over a period of at least a couple of years.

Nicky.

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Andrea2 - 17 Dec 2006 21:57 GMT
>> I have been coming here for years, it is a beautiful place, especially
>> early in the morning. I would jog/run usually all the way around the
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>
>Nicky.

We don't have anything like a serial killer here but a rapist can be
just as terrifying, at least to me. I have mace and a personal alarm
siren but don't usually carry them when I go running. The only thing I
like to carry is my meter and some glucose tablets.

This morning I biked around the block a few times than worked out on
our stair stepper. I don't like indoor exercise, it is not the same as
going outside. What little exercise DH gets is on the stepper, he
watches TV while he works out.

I hope they catch the sickos in both your area and mine so we can get
on with our life without fear.

Andrea2
Type 2, MDI insulin, mother
Nicky - 17 Dec 2006 22:08 GMT
> I hope they catch the sickos in both your area and mine so we can get
> on with our life without fear.

Yeah!

Nicky.

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Jeff - 16 Dec 2006 21:59 GMT
Here is a list of things that can't be dangerous.

<list>
</list>

A very short list. Everything we do has some risk involved. Once, some
researchers did a study look at bacteria people's blood after the move their
bowels. The found that when people move their bowels, some bacteria get in
the blood. Not to mention the risk of slipping in the bathroom. So you can't
even go potty without risk.

Stay inside, you don't get enough excercise. Go outside, and you take some
risks.

Life is risky.

Just enjoy it.

Jeff
Roger Zoul - 16 Dec 2006 23:45 GMT
Perhaps you should consider packing some iron....or some lead.

:: This morning I decided to bike over to the lake to jog
:: around the shore. It is my favorite place to jog and I
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
:: Andrea2
:: Type 2, MDI insulin, mother
rleone@hotmail.com - 17 Dec 2006 13:35 GMT
> This morning I decided to bike over to the lake to jog around the
> shore.
SNIP
Dear Andrea2:
  You gottta watch out for the danger while cycling. I've not been
injured by a car crashing into me (a rear wheel bent once, at a
stoplight, in full daylight, but no injuries), BUT I live within a
quarter mile of TWO intersections where the city's installed red light
runner cameras. For a reason. The last two bike vs. car accidents I've
seen involved a sidewalk rider and a wrong way sidewalk rider (with
bonus red light running!) crossing intersections.
   Diabetes content: One type 1 I sometimes see on group rides can eat
a whole chicken with beans and rice bowl at one of the local fish taco
places in mid-ride, and then test below 90 an hour later, chew glucose
and test below 80 in fifteen minutes, nosh again and test at below 100
at the end of the ride, sitll running off the AM insulin shot! YMMV
for real -- this person routinely drops just about everyone, especially
uphill.

Robert Leone
 
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