goggy...... welcome to the wonderful world of Dr
Chung who cross-posts between the christian group,
the usenet kooks group, the athiest group and for
whatever reason the diabetes groups ! ! ! sigh

most of us have killfiled Chung and those that
reply to Chung, so there isn't the 'noise level'
that you have experienced

when you see a thread that Chung has posted to,
just mark the thread as read and move on to the
next thread/conversation

this is the downside to newsgroups/usenet.........
you get kooks like Chung and can't do much about
it

kate

In alt.support.diabetes on 11 Dec 2006 09:56:51 -0800  in Msg.#
<1165859811.313072.70460@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, goggy59@gmail.com
wrote:

I came here new after being diagnosed in June. I realized that the religious
freak was crossposting to about 5 different groups. I began to filter out
people I did not want to read. That's Usenet. Some groups out here in the
wilds of unmoderated Newsgroups are MUCH worse. I turned things around with
hard work, support here at home and what I got from this group. I'm still
here. You, of course, should do whatever works for you. I'm just sayin'.

goggy59@gmail.com wrote in message
<1165859811.313072.70460@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...

  Sorry you're unhappy.    Some comments from my viewpoint:

1.  We are afflicted with Chung and his enemies.    I wish they would go
away;  I also wish for Peace on Earth and  Goodwill to Men with about the
same expectations.    This is Usenet;  you take what you get.

Lurk on misc.health.alternative or talk.militia a bit and you will come to
regard the diabetes newsgroups as a breath of fresh air.

2.  Diabetes is a deadly disease.   I don't know when I will die but I know
that the odds favor me dying from diabetes complications;  i.e.  most likely
a premature heart attack.    Trying to figure out how to not-die when the
odds favor premature death prompts heated discussion.

3.  ". . . .I hope that any newly diagnosed person that comes here looking
for advice is able to see the bullshit fairly soon and realize that they
need to look elsewhere. . . ."

   Sorry,  but I disagree strongly with that.    My experiences in this
newsgroup over the last 6 years coupled with my attendance at all the
Diabetes Expos and all the Diabetes Support Group meetings in my city and
the next one over convince me that the majority of diabetes care worldwide
is poor;  rating a C- at best.

Endocrinologists are the pro's in diabetes care but they are spread so thin
that their impact on the bulk of diabetes therapy is just not what it ought
to be.

However,  the posters to the diabetes newsgroups have seen the best and
worst of diabetes medical care worldwide.    They read the latest medical
literature  (we are still digesting the 2006 ADA Convention papers).   If
you stick around long enough,  you will be exposed to the newest and best of
the diabetes therapies.

Reading these newsgroups in 2000 made me aware that I had been using an
old-fashioned,  crappy insulin regime.    Based on my discussions with
posters to this group,  I pressured my doctor to switch me to a more modern
regime   I actually obtained some modern insulin and explored a new regime
even before approaching him.   I was able to work my way through the new
regime because of interactions with people on this group.   The changeover
from old-fashioned crappy to modern has allowed me to keep my HbA1c below 6
ever since.

The NHANES U.S. diabetic average HbA1c is about 7.75.    Mine varies between
5.6 and 5.7.     That level of success is directly attributable to these
newsgroups.

Regards
 Old Al

Are you a T1 or a T2?
--

BlueBrooke
T2/D&E/June 2005

The things that come to those who wait will
be the things left by those who got there first.

Newsgroups are like a library. You're not supposed to read every book
on every shelf. You're supposed to find the ones you like and ignore
the rest. Newsreading software can automate the ignoring for you by
making posts from certain people or certain topics disappear. Like any
library most is irrelevant or nonsense. It's your job to find the good
stuff for you.

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:56:51 -0800, goggy59 wrote:

Filter.

Read, listen, etc. and see how this fits with other sources. No one has
"all the answers".