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After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am usually about 95 +/- 4. The only thing I can blame the high BG on is drinking a lot of water through the night. To prevent dehydration I drank a small bottle of water every time I nursed my baby. That amounted to 3 bottles through the night. After the high fasting I only ate an orange, small scoop of brown rice and 2 soft boiled eggs. I injected the proper amount of insulin plus 1 extra unit for the high BG. I tested 2 hours later and was 131, about an hour after that I started feeling hypo. Testing confirmed it was 62 so I ate another half orange. It has been up and down every since then. Normally I would just fast until BG stabilized but because I am breast feeding I'm not sure that would be a good idea. A MDI insulin regimen is good except when this roller coaster BG starts. When I stop breast feeding I would like to go back on meds, maybe Byetta. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother >After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am >having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am >usually about 95 +/- 4. The only thing I can blame the high BG on is >drinking a lot of water through the night. To prevent dehydration I >drank a small bottle of water every time I nursed my baby. That >amounted to 3 bottles through the night. Why would drinking water raise your BG? I would think it would have the opposite effect, helping your kidneys flush out the excess glucose. Remember, when you go into the hospital for high BG, the standard treatment (besides insulin) is putting you on a saline solution IV. Hydration is all-important in a situation like that. From my perspective, as a Type 1, a 122 fasting glucose is nothing to be alarmed about. (In fact, my *target* BG is about 130.) If I woke up with a fasting BG of 95, I would have to *delay* my breakfast insulin until *after* eating, or else risk a hypo. If a 122 reading is unusual for you, it could be due to things happening in your body "under the radar," and not to anything specific that you did or did not do. Diabetes is simply not an exact science. >>After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am >>having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the opposite effect, helping your kidneys flush out the excess > glucose. It would have the opposite effect if we are talking about short term fasts like those during the day between meals. but FBS is different. I can see were drinking to much water can cause a liver dump to happe earlier than usual and as a result have higher than normal numbers in the morning. after all you are flushing out glucose. Tom >>>After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am >>>having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> the opposite effect, helping your kidneys flush out the excess >> glucose. > It would have the opposite effect if we are talking about short term fasts > like those > during the day between meals. but FBS is different. I can see were > drinking to much water can cause a liver dump to happe earlier than usual > and as a result have higher than normal numbers in the morning. after all > you are flushing out glucose. If drinking lots of water causes you to flush out glucose then either your BG levels are horrendously out of control or you have very serious kidney problems.  SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >If drinking lots of water causes you to flush out glucose then either >your BG levels are horrendously out of control or you have very >serious kidney problems. That's true. I think the renal threshold for filtering out excess BG is normally well above Andrea's reading of 122. What I was trying to say is that, theoretically, drinking water should tend to *lower* BG, not raise it. In any case, I doubt it had any effect here. >It would have the opposite effect if we are talking about short term fasts >like those >during the day between meals. but FBS is different. I can see were >drinking too much water can cause a liver dump to happen earlier than usual >and as a result have higher than normal numbers in the morning. after all >you are flushing out glucose. I don't understand what you're saying. By "flushing out glucose," I meant the kidneys eliminating excess glucose from the bloodstream, not dumping it *into* the bloodstream. Water will not cause the liver to dump anything, but it will help the kidneys to operate better. Back before we had home blood glucose testing, we tried to measure our degree of control with urine sugar tests. Once the BG passed the "renal threshold," the higher the BG, the more sugar in the urine. Not drinking enough water would play hob with this mechanism. >>It would have the opposite effect if we are talking about short term fasts >>like those [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > meant the kidneys eliminating excess glucose from the bloodstream, not > dumping it *into* the bloodstream. I meant it will lower bg but could possibly lessen the time it takes to have a liver dump. depending upon what she ate, what time she ate and how much water she drank (among other things) will effect morning FBS levels. and its very possible that she is having a liver dump during the night. >Water will not cause the liver to > dump anything, but it will help the kidneys to operate better. yes I agree and know what you meant when you said "I would think it would have the opposite effect, helping your kidneys flush out the excess glucose. " i think this can lessen the time it takes to have a liver dump, causing higher FBS levels > Back before we had home blood glucose testing, we tried to measure our > degree of control with urine sugar tests. Once the BG passed the > "renal threshold," the higher the BG, the more sugar in the urine. Not > drinking enough water would play hob with this mechanism. drinking the right amount of water is very imporant for many things. especially when doing tests with urine. Tom Hello Andrea, > After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am > having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am > usually about 95 +/- 4. The only thing I can blame the high BG on is > drinking a lot of water through the night. To prevent dehydration I > drank a small bottle of water every time I nursed my baby. That > amounted to 3 bottles through the night. Keep up with the fluids. Dehydration can be hard on a person. The water isn't likely to have affected your blood sugar. It likely lowered it if you were able to drastically improve your hydration. I don't think that can be recovered in just a day though. A transition from 95 to 122 isn't that bad and is probably within normal range. The dawn phenomenon may explain that. When you wake up your body prepares more sugar for the days activity and with your interupted sleep cycle perhaps there was a slight change. > After the high fasting I only ate an orange, small scoop of brown rice > and 2 soft boiled eggs. I injected the proper amount of insulin plus 1 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > then. Normally I would just fast until BG stabilized but because I am > breast feeding I'm not sure that would be a good idea. The diabetic roller coaster can be a problem. We just try to do our best to stay level. For me it is a balancing act between the foods I choose to eat and the insulins I take. I used Humalog and Lantus. I haven't read what you are using. An orange is pretty much all fast acting sugar. It will bring your blood sugar up in 15-30 minutes and be available for about an hour, then it drops off quickly. To mitigate the roller coaster effect add a slightly longer acting food, like toast to the mix. It will take affect a bit later and stay longer. Meats and dairy products take even longer to take affect. You might try testing a bit earlier or more often to see how the insulin affects you. Every- thing you do affects your blood sugar. A little extra activity after you have eaten is just like taking a fast-medium acting shot. Perhaps you were a bit more active with your child and that causes the low. You might try testing a bit more often or eating a longer acting food when you'll be busy. > A MDI insulin regimen is good except when this roller coaster BG > starts. When I stop breast feeding I would like to go back on meds, > maybe Byetta. I'm not familiar with how MDI insulin affects the body. We're all affected differently. > Andrea2 > Type 2, MDI insulin, mother David -- Type I, Humalog, Lantus; experienced with Regular and NPH >I'm not familiar with how MDI insulin affects the body. We're all >affected differently. "MDI" simply means "multiple daily injections." People on Lantus/Humalog are doing this. > >I'm not familiar with how MDI insulin affects the body. We're all > >affected differently. > > > "MDI" simply means "multiple daily injections." People on > Lantus/Humalog are doing this. Thanks for the clarification Alaxander. I've never heard the term MDI used. Perhaps 20 years hasn't been that long. David >After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am >having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am >usually about 95 +/- 4. The only thing I can blame the high BG on is >drinking a lot of water through the night. To prevent dehydration I >drank a small bottle of water every time I nursed my baby. That >amounted to 3 bottles through the night. I go through about a pint of water during hte night - more when the weather is dry. I've never seen a variance in my FBG due to night-time water intake. >After the high fasting I only ate an orange, small scoop of brown rice >and 2 soft boiled eggs. I injected the proper amount of insulin plus 1 >extra unit for the high BG. I tested 2 hours later and was 131, about >an hour after that I started feeling hypo. Testing confirmed it was 62 >so I ate another half orange If you did chores after breakfast and nursed the baby a couple of times the activity plus the extra insulin plus the draw-down of milk production probably caused your low. Also, you need at least 500 extra calories per day while you're nursing, more as time goes on and the baby grows and nurses more. Get the extra calories from protein foods like cheese and chicken, not carbs like rice and fruit. . It has been up and down every since >then. Normally I would just fast until BG stabilized but because I am >breast feeding I'm not sure that would be a good idea. Better to put the baby in a sling or the stroller and hike around the block a couple of times, or march in place in the middle of the living room if hte weather is bad. >A MDI insulin regimen is good except when this roller coaster BG >starts. When I stop breast feeding I would like to go back on meds, >maybe Byetta. Do your 1- and 2-hour post-prandials ever go over 140? Do you take basal insulin to control your FBG? Is your current weight nearly what it was before you got pregant (I don't recall if you were overweight/T2 pre-pregnancy, sorry). If the answers are no you may be able to do without the insulin altogether and manage your BG with diet and excercise. Time to talk to an endocrinologist who knows about diabetes and nursing women. Signed, Former gestational diabetic and milch cow, er, breastfeeder Thanks for the replies and information, it is all good advice and has allowed me to put this event in respective. I like the idea that the extra water might have triggered a dawn effect. This might have started me on the roller coaster, which I have had before. I might be too cautious about my BG, I get ballistic if it ever goes over 140. I use Lantus and Humalog, I do frequent correction injections of Humalog when ever I go over 140. Before I was pregnant I took metformin which made control much easier. It is not advised to take metformin while pregnant or breast feeding. The breakfast I had was a normal one for me, I use a lot of butter in the soft boiled eggs and eat it with the brown rice first. I have the orange after that. I went jogging a while later, only went 2 times around the block this time, I normally do more, down the trail for a mile or two. I can usually balance the Humalog and food with good results. When it goes wrong like today it is very disturbing. Sometimes I feel like things are happening that are beyond my control and that worries me. My DH tells me to relax, have some tea and do my meditation thing. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother > Thanks for the replies and information, it is all good advice and has > allowed me to put this event in respective. I like the idea that the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Andrea2 > Type 2, MDI insulin, mother Much better to be to cautious about BG control than complacent. I know people that have lost limbs and even died of diabetic complications that might have been prevented with caution like yours. > I can usually balance the Humalog and food with good results. When it > goes wrong like today it is very disturbing. Sometimes I feel like > things are happening that are beyond my control and that worries me. > My DH tells me to relax, have some tea and do my meditation thing. You might just be coming down with something. When I get sick, my bg goes wacky in unpredictable ways. Between that and the fainting episode, I'd think you may have picked up a bug or something. Your DH's advice seems sensible, as does the advice to get lots of fluids. >> I can usually balance the Humalog and food with good results. When it >> goes wrong like today it is very disturbing. Sometimes I feel like [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Your DH's advice seems sensible, as does the advice to get lots of fluids. Maybe I am getting something, fasting BG was a little high again today but only 104. I took my temperature, it was 99.2, not high enough to cause concern. I went out this morning, only the second time since we brought the baby home. I had a hair appointment, my hairdresser promised to take me first so I wouldn't be out too long. I haven't had my hair done since before I went in the hospital to have the baby. My hair is long and was a total mess because I haven't been able to take care of it. After she finished, I felt like a woman again. When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making such a fuss over her that I could hardly stand it I was so proud. Nothing can ruin my day today, I am so happy, I don't care if my BG's are out of wack. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother > When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out > for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making > such a fuss over her that I could hardly stand it I was so proud. > Nothing can ruin my day today, I am so happy, I don't care if my BG's > are out of wack. Bottle it, and savour it forever :D Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 100ug Thyroxine 95/72/72Kg >> When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out >> for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Nicky. I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this paragraph from the NIMI web site: "Bipolar disorder, also known as manic-depressive illness, is a brain disorder that causes unusual shifts in a person's mood, energy, and ability to function. Different from the normal ups and downs that everyone goes through, the symptoms of bipolar disorder are severe." This describes me on a lot of different occasions, especially yesterday. I went from extreme happiness to total depression in a few hours and that was after being depressed the night before. It was all triggered by an insignificant events that I should have just shrugged off and went on with my life. I was in therapy on two other occasions. With therapy and the help of drugs I was able to see the world as it is and deal with life's little problems on a rational basis. That is what I need to do again, for my own sake, my babies sake and my dear husbands sake. He has been so supportive in my constantly unpredictable moods, we both agree it will be best for me to start therapy again. Andrea >>> When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out >>> for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Andrea Maybe it is best but also remember you are a new mother, with fluctuating hormones still, lack of proper sleep perhaps and a whole new way of life now you have a baby. Give yourself a few months to let things pan out. The first 3-6 months with a new baby can be harrowing and then usually life settles into a pattern. > >> When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out > >> for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > unpredictable moods, we both agree it will be best for me to start > therapy again. Sounds like a wise decision. A good therapist can be an enormous asset, particularly one who's a skilled diagnostician. Priscilla > I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not > normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > This describes me on a lot of different occasions, especially > yesterday. Well - maybe - but it also describes every new mother I ever met. And I don't think your dislike of the pervert who likes to fondle your underwear is inappropriate in any way, nor is the opposite thing of being filled with joy because of your daughter... Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 100ug Thyroxine 95/72/72Kg >> I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not >> normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Nicky. Thanks for that, I have been trying to diagnose myself from reading the NIMH web site. I might have a bipolar disorder and might not. It's just that I would go from a high to a low or low to high too fast and often. It could just be hypochondria, I imagine I have every thing I read about. I can't see my former psychiatrist anyway, I called and he has closed the local office. I would have to drive a long way to see him and he is the only one I would trust. As far as the pervert, we had a good laugh about it when I told DH about him. The first thing he said is that he is up to his old tricks again. Seems he that when he drinks he does things like that, he even told me about an incident much worst than mine. The problem is that they were all members of the same group and went through a lot of dangerous missions together. He could not invite the others without inviting him. When they're coming over I will just have to stay out of the way or as DH suggested, confront him in front of the others about it. It I could get up the courage to do that, it might be good for a laugh at his expense. :-) Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother : >> I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not : >> normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] : > : >Nicky. : Thanks for that, I have been trying to diagnose myself from reading : the NIMH web site. I might have a bipolar disorder and might not. It's : just that I would go from a high to a low or low to high too fast and : often. It could just be hypochondria, I imagine I have every thing I : read about. : I can't see my former psychiatrist anyway, I called and he has closed : the local office. I would have to drive a long way to see him and he : is the only one I would trust. : As far as the pervert, we had a good laugh about it when I told DH : about him. The first thing he said is that he is up to his old tricks [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : it. It I could get up the courage to do that, it might be good for a : laugh at his expense. :-) : Andrea2 : Type 2, MDI insulin, mother andrea, Many women experience varying degrees of post-partum depression after having a baby. this may well be what is getting you currently. If time doesn't help then soem counseling may well help, but it is not at all unusual. Don't jump to te conclusin that it is a permanent condition until more time has passed and your whole system and life get settled down. Another reason not to jump into another pregnancy. My two boys are about 2 1/2 years part and are now as adults very close with a great deal of respect for each other. I, personally, found that a good spread between the kids, both as littlle ones and as they went through school. Wendy Hi Andrea, I'm soooo glad you told your husband about the pervert! I don't pretend to understand the bond military men (and women) share because I've never been there, but I do respect it. At least with your husband in the loop, he can act as a buffer or back you up if you confront him. That would be a hoot! SignatureMichelle, T2 diet & exercise >>> I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not >>> normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Andrea2 > Type 2, MDI insulin, mother >Hi Andrea, > >I'm soooo glad you told your husband about the pervert! I don't pretend to >understand the bond military men (and women) share because I've never been >there, but I do respect it. At least with your husband in the loop, he can >act as a buffer or back you up if you confront him. That would be a hoot! When I was under treatment for pushing a nurse down the stairs, my doctor made me confront her and apologize. It did help me a lot, before the confrontation I didn't ever want to leave the hospital. Within a week after, I felt I was read to get on with my life. I was released soon after into the custody of my in laws. I would never have the courage to confront him. If they come over for Christmas, I have been thinking of getting a present for each of them. His would be a pair of my panties just like the ones he was playing with. I could include a note, I haven't decided how to word it yet. I went to my endo appointment yesterday. My tests were all good except for my BUN test. She said I was probably slightly dehydrated. Like others here have advised, she advised me to wait 2-3 months before I considered going back in therapy and also to wait 6-12 months before trying to get pregnant again. She wants me to get a IUD rather than use the pill. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother >>Hi Andrea, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > His would be a pair of my panties just like the ones he was playing > with. I could include a note, I haven't decided how to word it yet. Actually, that sounds like a really good idea. You make your point without having to be present. For the note, how about: I got you a pair of your own so you don't have to play with mine? ;-) > I went to my endo appointment yesterday. My tests were all good except > for my BUN test. She said I was probably slightly dehydrated. Like > others here have advised, she advised me to wait 2-3 months before I > considered going back in therapy and also to wait 6-12 months before > trying to get pregnant again. She wants me to get a IUD rather than > use the pill. As some of the other ladies have pointed out, it would probably be best to delay therapy until your hormones normalize. Otherwise it would be tough for the therapist to sort out which is causing what. Still, if you really get to the point where you feel you can't cope, don't hesitate to go earlier. Smart endo. With an IUD you would avoid those hormonal complications that you might get with the pill. And from your earlier posts, I want to echo the others who encouraged you to consider going back to work after Misako is a little older. Your DH is one smart cookie. :-) No matter how much you love caring for Misako--and we all know how much you do :-)--everyone needs other interests, interacting with other people, etc. SignatureMichelle, T2 diet & exercise >> Christmas, I have been thinking of getting a present for each of them. >> His would be a pair of my panties just like the ones he was playing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >having to be present. For the note, how about: I got you a pair of your >own so you don't have to play with mine? ;-) I like that, I may use those exact words. I do worry that the others might think something's going on between us. When they are drinking a lot, I am the only woman around and they sometimes slap me on the butt or try to pinch me. Boys will be boys does not quite excuse this with me but I guess all men are like this when they drink. >> I went to my endo appointment yesterday. My tests were all good except >> for my BUN test. She said I was probably slightly dehydrated. Like [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >all know how much you do :-)--everyone needs other interests, interacting >with other people, etc. There is a new contractor where I worked before. The old one or some of my previous coworkers must have given them my name because they have called several times asking if I was going back to work. I enjoyed working before, and probably would again, especially if I got my old job back. With the new contractor, things might have changed so much that I wouldn't like it. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother No, all men aren't like that when they drink, only the clods, and those types usually act that way drunk or sober. Fortunately, in my life, I've been surrounded by a majority of really nice men, and the one or two that weren't, weren't in my life long. I know you've had really bad experiences with men, but don't let a few bad apples spoil your outlook. No reason for any of them, except your husband, to be touching you at all. Put them in their place in no uncertain terms, and I bet it will stop. JMO -- Cheri Andrea2 wrote in message ... >I like that, I may use those exact words. I do worry that the others >might think something's going on between us. When they are drinking a >lot, I am the only woman around and they sometimes slap me on the butt >or try to pinch me. Boys will be boys does not quite excuse this with >me but I guess all men are like this when they drink. In alt.support.diabetes on Fri, 15 Dec 2006 19:12:21 -0800 in Msg.# <h8o6o2p263dulkt0rq577b2ius728rv2p5@4ax.com>, Andrea2 <andrea6192001@yahoo.com> wrote: > I like that, I may use those exact words. I do worry that the others > might think something's going on between us. When they are drinking a > lot, I am the only woman around and they sometimes slap me on the butt > or try to pinch me. Boys will be boys does not quite excuse this with > me but I guess all men are like this when they drink. No, all men aren't like that. And, those men should not be disrespectful to you in this way. > There is a new contractor where I worked before. The old one or some > of my previous coworkers must have given them my name because they > have called several times asking if I was going back to work. I > enjoyed working before, and probably would again, especially if I got > my old job back. With the new contractor, things might have changed so > much that I wouldn't like it. You could get in touch with some of your former coworkers & ask them what things are like now, without committing yourself to doing anything at any point, leaving all your options of what & when to yourself. SignatureDonnaB : ^> shallotpeel <*> Yahoo Messenger: shallotpeel http://www.ajc.com/news/mplayer/panda cub /6371 > I do worry that the others > might think something's going on between us. When they are drinking a > lot, I am the only woman around and they sometimes slap me on the butt > or try to pinch me. Boys will be boys does not quite excuse this with > me but I guess all men are like this when they drink. No, they're not - you have a right for them to respect you, and not treat you like a bit of fluff! Any idiot trying that round me would have a slap on the face. Does your husband behave like that to other women he meets? I doubt it. Why does he accept it from his friends? Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 100ug Thyroxine 95/72/72Kg >> I do worry that the others >> might think something's going on between us. When they are drinking a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Nicky. The first time it happened I did slap him and everybody laughed. I was the only one that got embarrassed. My husband after asked me if I wanted him to call them down when they did things like that. I told him I could handle it myself. I didn't want to look like a baby or a prude. It doesn't happen very often, when it does it is partially my fault for hanging around them when they are drinking. Usually when they do that they make flattering remarks about my anatomy. I have to admit I enjoy that part of it. Andrea >>> When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out >>> for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>Nicky. > I've look back on my whole behavior for the last two days. It is not > normal for a person to act like I did. It caused me to review this > paragraph from the NIMI web site: > "Bipolar disorder, also known as manic-depressive illness, is a brain > disorder that causes unusual shifts in a person's mood, energy, and > ability to function. Different from the normal ups and downs that > everyone goes through, the symptoms of bipolar disorder are severe." > This describes me on a lot of different occasions, especially > yesterday. I went from extreme happiness to total depression in a few [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > unpredictable moods, we both agree it will be best for me to start > therapy again. You might like to check out "cyclothymia", which describes a mild form of bipolar affective disorder. Many people have personalities which exhibit mild forms of behaviour which when more exaggerated is characteristic of one or anther mental disorder. These are sometimes called "shadow syndromes". A cyclothymic isn't a diagnosable case of bipolar affective disorder, but can benefit from some of the self-management strategies used by BP sufferers. Including oily fish in their diet, or taking fish oil supplements, has helped some people to stabilise their moods. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] >>>> When I got home it was such a beautiful day that we took Misako out >>>> for a stroll in her buggy. Two neighbors came over and were making [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Including oily fish in their diet, or taking fish oil supplements, has >helped some people to stabilise their moods. Thanks all for the information. I can't take fish oil supplements now because I am still nursing my baby. Before I was pregnant I was taking 3-4 grams of fish oil a day. I love oily fish and eat it often. I even eat my DH's pickled herring. I'm not supposed to eat raw tuna (sashimi) which I really like but we still get tuna and I cook it. DH says I just get overly obsessive about things, like now my obsession is my mood shifts and I've convened myself it is BP disorder (his words). He might be right or he might be wrong. He don't mind my obsessive behavior, he even enjoys following along in my obsessions. I'm not sure he's right about this BP idea, I still feel the way my mood shifts from happy to sad is not normal. Andrea2 Andrea....... fluctuating hormones after pregnancy are VERY strong mood disruptors you are safe unless you are planning something dire for yourself and/or your baby if you continue to have HUGE fluctuations in your mood changes after the 3 week mark is passed (that's when the fluctuations are strongest) then it's time to see a Dr and talk about it keep a diary of your mood changes, so you can see that you are getting fewer and less dramatic swings in mood..... rate your mood, and time each change in mood bi-polar doesn't shift moods quickly...... it usually comes in 3 to 6 month cycles good luck, honey! and ENJOY that beautiful baby girl of yours ;-) kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > DH says I just get overly obsessive about things, like now my > obsession is my mood shifts and I've convinced myself it is BP disorder > (his words). He might be right or he might be wrong. He don't mind my > obsessive behavior, he even enjoys following along in my obsessions. > I'm not sure he's right about this BP idea, I still feel the way my > mood shifts from happy to sad is not normal. > > Andrea2 >Andrea....... fluctuating hormones after pregnancy >are VERY strong mood disruptors > >you are safe unless you are planning something >dire for yourself and/or your baby I must have posted about when I tried to kill the nurse and broke her leg by pushing her down the stairs. That earned me 5 months in the mental hospital to avoid prosecution. It was the only time I ever tried to hurt anyone. I can't say my moods were changing for no reason that time, I had hit the bottom and didn't want to live any more. I feel I was cured, mostly by the skill of the fine doctor I had. I have never planned to hurt anyone except myself and would never ever hurt my baby. >if you continue to have HUGE fluctuations in your >mood changes after the 3 week mark is passed [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >kate As long as I realize what is happening when my mood changes, I can rationalize the reason for the changes and try to put them in perspective. DH asked me last night if I wanted to go back to work after 6-8 months. He thinks I need to get out and talk to other people and have responsibilities outside the house. It might be a good idea, we don't need the money but I enjoyed working before and maybe it would be help me find myself. DH would be here to take care of Misako and I might even make some friends. Andrea2 Type 2, MDI insulin, mother "Andrea2" wrote in message ... > As long as I realize what is happening when my mood changes, I can > rationalize the reason for the changes and try to put them in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Andrea2 > Type 2, MDI insulin, mother Andrea....... i went back to work when kidlet was 8 full months old (in his 9th month) and the first few days were teary eyed over missing him, but it was the best thing i did...... it gave the kidlet time away from Mom (they do need that) and it gave ME time to be 'a normal adult' for 8 hours every day don't worry about it right now........... enjoy your time with Misako, but in the future, do think about this as a very healthy thing to do for yourself you are lucky hubby will be with Misako during the day....... when she's about 3 years old, she should go to 'pre-school' to learn how to socialize with other kids her own age, and get prepared for the day when Kindergarten comes....... all of this will happen so fast, you won't be able to believe that the time has passed ! ! ! meanwhile, do you have any "Babes and Mom's" groups that you can join? our public health nurse came out and told us about a local group that was meeting...... it was excellent for the moms to compare notes when the babies were young, then it was excellent for the babies to crawl around and play together when they got able to crawl about..... good luck! kate >>> I can usually balance the Humalog and food with good results. When it >>> goes wrong like today it is very disturbing. Sometimes I feel like [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >Andrea2 >Type 2, MDI insulin, mother Maybe I spoke too soon about nothing bothering me today. DH has his old Navy buddies over tonight. I like all of them except one. I had specifically asked DH to never have him over again, but he did. I can put up with their remarks about me being such a young catch and even DH telling them that I raped him the first time and how I almost killed in the first 6 months. I can't stand this one guy. The last time he was here I caught him in our bedroom going through my dirty clothes with a pair of my panties in his hand. They're out there right now drinking and joking, some at my expense I'm sure. I'm trying real hard to keep my temper and think happy thoughts. Andrea > >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Andrea > Remember: You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose. But you can't pick your friend's nose. Back in college, my GF (now SWMBO) didn't like one of my friends. Couldn't say I disagreed with her assessment. He was the type to hit on my GF just to be annoying... or at least that's what I thought. Fortunately for SWMBO, we lost touch after college. Last I spoke with him, he was on trial for rape. He insisted it was a misunderstanding. Last I googled him, he was an author living in Sillycon Valley. mt SignatureT2 dx May 2005 with A1c 10.1 1000 mg Metformin 2x day 1000 mg Fish Oil (Omega 3) 2x day 500 mg Niacin 1x day last A1c: 5.0 (Oct 2006) >> >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >mt I've stayed in my room and had a lot of time to think. I really don't have any friends, the only close friend I had moved up north to go to school. Before DH moved in with me I was a recluse. The only time I went anywhere was to go to work or shopping. I had been like that since my first husband died. In 7 years, I could count the number of dates I had on the fingers of one hand. When fate threw us together, I was desperate for a friend but didn't know how to go about making one. He was one of the only three people in the world that I trusted so when I saw my chance to get close to him I took it. I had know him since my first husband was still alive. He was always the perfect gentleman and had never made an advance. Me and DH had so much in common it was fated that we should be together, not the least of which was we are both Type 2 diabetics. His friends are all retired Navy pilots. He says they saved each others a.ses dozens of times. I can't ask him to not see them but that one guy is just too much for me to stand. Maybe I should have told DH what I caught him doing, but I don't know how he would react. I don't think stealing a friends wife's underwear is a normal thing to do. I don't want to cause trouble between them so I just said I didn't like him and please don't invite him over again. From now on when they come over, I'll just stay in my room and take care of my baby. They usually come over every other Saturday. If DH is going to be drinking, I would rather he did it here at home. My first husband had been drinking the night he was killed in an auto accident driving some friends home. Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest and I have no one else to talk to. Andrea > Maybe I should have told DH > what I caught him doing, but I don't know how he would react. I don't > think stealing a friends wife's underwear is a normal thing to do. No. It isn't - it's downright creepy, and I think you owe it to your DH to explain your antipathy towards this weirdo. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.5/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 100ug Thyroxine 95/72/72Kg >>> >>> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >Sorry, but I just had to get this off my chest and I have no one else >to talk to. It's none of my business, but, you live there to. The house is also your house. That should tell you how to resolve an unacceptable position. If you don't stand up for yourself, then, no one will. Your life is totally up to you. _____________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free > After my fainting yesterday, supposedly because of dehydration, I am > having another bad day. It started with my fasting BG of 122. I am [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > starts. When I stop breast feeding I would like to go back on meds, > maybe Byetta. Just for sharp contrast a bad day for me involves my rollercoaster going from 35 to 400. If it gets much worse than that I end up with an ambulance trip to the ER because my wife can't wake me up. If I could stay within 62 to 131 every day, I would be so so so happy and consider myself nearly "cured". I can be within those limits many but not all days when everything is working just right. Tim. >Just for sharp contrast a bad day for me involves my rollercoaster >going from 35 to 400. If it gets much worse than that I end up with an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and consider myself nearly "cured". I can be within those limits many >but not all days when everything is working just right. My feelings exactly, although I'm a little higher on the low side. I can't recall ever having been as low as 35, and even at 62 I have severe symptoms of hypoglycemia. I try to stay between 100 and 150, and if I can do so, I feel very well. This seems to be working, since I have never had to go to the hospital for diabetes (after the first diagnosis), and I have gone 41 years with no complications other than treatable retinopathy. > >Just for sharp contrast a bad day for me involves my rollercoaster > >going from 35 to 400. If it gets much worse than that I end up with an [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > diagnosis), and I have gone 41 years with no complications other than > treatable retinopathy. Ah, such are the dreams/nightmares of the everyday Type 1. :) Roller coaster is a great analogy for what we sometimes have to go through. Since I switched to Humalog/Lantus that roller coaster has been pretty boring in a good way, plenty of flat rails. Alexander, just wanted to add that reading your success (41 years!) is an inspiration to me and I'm betting other T1's here. Thanks. Best, Kurt Yes, but do you look in the mirror and stare at the wrinkles that weren't there yesterday? ;-) Just kidding Kurt, I'm sure it must be a constant with type 1's. I'm very glad for you that you have gotten off the roller coaster and I wish you many, many years of good health. -- Cheri Kurt wrote in message <1165786742.505070.36140@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... >Ah, such are the dreams/nightmares of the everyday Type 1. :) Roller >coaster is a great analogy for what we sometimes have to go through. >Since I switched to Humalog/Lantus that roller coaster has been pretty >boring in a good way, plenty of flat rails. >Ah, such are the dreams/nightmares of the everyday Type 1. :) Roller >coaster is a great analogy for what we sometimes have to go through. >Since I switched to Humalog/Lantus that roller coaster has been pretty >boring in a good way, plenty of flat rails. Yes, Humalog/Lantus seems to be the treatment of choice for Type 1. I admit I was skeptical at first when Humalog came out, because the so-called 5-minute onset of action was scary. In practice, there's a lot more margin for eating a meal, depending on the pre-meal BG. If my pre-meal BG is low, I just delay the Humalog until *after* eating. For a while, I was combining Humalog with Regular and NPH in a fairly complex regimen. The idea was to avoid taking shots in the middle of the day, which would have interfered with my work schedule (or so I thought). In the case of Lantus, even my endocrinologist at the time was hesitant, because he pointed out that using Lantus would mean a bolus injection with *every* meal. This was a major lifestyle change. But, I've been on Humalog/Lantus for about six years now, and I'm glad I made the switch. The main advantage, for me, was being able to tailor the insulin to what I ate, and not the other way around. This has helped me keep my weight under control, and in general I feel better. Nowadays, if a Type 1 is *not* on Humalog/Lantus, there must be a very good reason. (Cost springs to mind, if the person has no insurance.) >Alexander, just wanted to add that reading your success (41 years!) is >an inspiration to me and I'm betting other T1's here. Thanks. Thanks. One reason that I post here is to hopefully encourage others. But I'm under no illusions that what I'm doing in regard to treatment has been what has saved me from complications. Sheer luck has a lot to do with it. I'm sure that people with much tighter control than I have fallen victim to all sorts of complications. We do the best we can. Ever since I was diagnosed in the fall of 1965, the story has always been that "a cure is just around the corner." I've come to be rather skeptical of such reports, but I really think now that we may be on the verge of a breakthrough. All this time we were thinking in terms of islet transplants, but it looks as though the new big thing will be electronic/mechanical -- an artificial pancreas. If they can stretch the unattended operation of this "closed-loop" system from 36 hours to 36 days, I'll be jumping on board. >>Ah, such are the dreams/nightmares of the everyday Type 1. :) Roller >>coaster is a great analogy for what we sometimes have to go through. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Nowadays, if a Type 1 is *not* on Humalog/Lantus, there must be a very >good reason. (Cost springs to mind, if the person has no insurance.) The cheapest place I can find for humalog/novolog is http://www.canadadrugsonline.com//DrugMoreInfo2578.aspx at $34 + $10 s/h for humalog. I bought a vial of novorapid (novolog in US) a few months ago $41 + $10. Not sure why the $7 difference. _____________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free |
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