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A good breakfast with just the right amount of carbs

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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 02:07 GMT
Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
sausage, egg and cheese. They have 29g of carbs. They have other
nutrients I need and they are very satisfying. I especially like the
first mentioned one. I have that, 8 ounces of Crystal Lite to wash
down my morning meds and finish up with a cup of coffee.

I just thought I would mention them. BTW, they are as good or better
than the ones sold at fast food restaurants and priced at around a
dollar a piece.
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Ricavito - 07 Dec 2006 02:27 GMT
> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
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> than the ones sold at fast food restaurants and priced at around a
> dollar a piece.

Actually, that sounds appealing to me, but using Byetta I seem to have
a limited food repetoire mornings.  Just about everything was making me
queasy, and I've mostly given up eggs, whole grain bread toast, and
coffee, my usual morning staples.  I used to douse everything with hot
sauce too--no more!

Lately, I've been eating a can of vegetables of some kind each morning,
first thing.  Usually, it's canned asparagus (on sale this season), or
spinach, turnip or mustard greens, or green beans.  Actually, it is
always one of those.  I could probably do without the added salt, but
it sure is an easy, quick breakfast.  Mid morning, I have snack on a
cube of cheese and sometimes a piece of fruit or bread.  So far so
good.

I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy orange
juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.
Cheri - 07 Dec 2006 02:56 GMT
Crystal Light Sunrise Orange tastes a lot like OJ, but no pulp.

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Ricavito wrote in message >

I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy orange
>juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.
Ricavito - 07 Dec 2006 03:01 GMT
> Crystal Light Sunrise Orange tastes a lot like OJ, but no pulp.
>
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> I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy orange
> >juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.

Well, I'll give it a try.  Last year was a good year for citrus, I
still remember the taste of the satsumas I got at Pedrick's fruit stand
in Davis.
Cheri - 07 Dec 2006 03:09 GMT
Well there's nothing like the real thing, but the Crystal Light comes
close and is a decent subsitute. Are they still outlawing smoking
everywhere in the city of Davis? Haven't been there for awhile. :-)

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Ricavito wrote in message
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>> Crystal Light Sunrise Orange tastes a lot like OJ, but no pulp.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>still remember the taste of the satsumas I got at Pedrick's fruit stand
>in Davis.
GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 04:01 GMT
>> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy orange
>juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.

We use the WalMart brand of Crystal Lite. I like the raspberry best.
If I really crave orange juice I make two quarts of orange juice from
concentrate which is one can more of water than called for; then I mix
that with two quarts of orange Crystal Lite (WalMart brand). That way
I can have a little orange juice with less than half the carbs of the
real thing.
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Jackie Patti - 07 Dec 2006 19:28 GMT
> I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy orange
> juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.

IMO, it's not really all that much like orange juice or any juice at all.

I mix 1 tsp powdered calcium ascorbate and 1/4 tsp lite salt into a 2
quart pitcher of Crystal Light and use this as a "sports drink."  It's
not enough salt to taste at all and the ascorbate adds tanginess which
cuts the sweet a bit as I find it a bit too sweet by itself.  I like the
raspberry flavor best.

Not the healthiest stuff on the planet, but better than diet soda
anyways.  A quart of it per day gets me good doses of calcium, vitamin C
and potassium.

They make these little one-serving tubes of Crystal Light too.  I find
them handy to carry if I'm going to be somewhere that won't have diet
drinks for any length of time.  Like... I'm going to a con next month,
and it'd be 3 or 4 days of water only if I didn't carry a few to flavor
up a drink now and then.
Ozgirl - 07 Dec 2006 21:48 GMT
>> I might try the Crystal Lite, I still miss a big glass of pulpy
>> orange juice, even after all these years of foregoing it.
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> and it'd be 3 or 4 days of water only if I didn't carry a few to
> flavor up a drink now and then.

Does your calcium ascorbate have rutin and bioflavinoids
added? If so, it is a great antioxidant.
Jackie Patti - 08 Dec 2006 14:34 GMT
> Does your calcium ascorbate have rutin and bioflavinoids
> added? If so, it is a great antioxidant.

Nope, just the plain calcium ascorbate.  The majority of my nutrients I
get from food.  I eat loads of veggies and some fruit daily.

But some stuff, I do in mega-doses you can't get from food.  I am a
Linus Pauling fan, so...
Alan S - 07 Dec 2006 02:43 GMT
>Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>than the ones sold at fast food restaurants and priced at around a
>dollar a piece.

And the one-hour is...?
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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 04:04 GMT
>>Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>>with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>And the one-hour is...?

Beats me. I rarely test again until just before lunch. I am sure it is
better than when I have my usual 2 slices of whole wheat toast with
peanut butter or a bowl of oatmeal with 2% milk and better for me.
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Americans killed in Iraq as of December 04, 2006 is 2906. United Kingdom = 126 Other = 121.
Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 06, 2006 it has been 1313 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

Hi_Therre - 07 Dec 2006 13:12 GMT
>>>Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>>>with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>better than when I have my usual 2 slices of whole wheat toast with
>peanut butter or a bowl of oatmeal with 2% milk and better for me.

You don't check at 1 and 2PP?  That oatmeal packs a mean punch on
carbs.  Whole wheat bread is also laden with carbs.  You got guts.  I
eat two 5 carb 6 oz containers of yogurt for breakfast, and I still
can pop a 140 at 1PP at least twice a week.
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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 17:50 GMT
<snip>

>>Beats me. I rarely test again until just before lunch. I am sure it is
>>better than when I have my usual 2 slices of whole wheat toast with
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Because of Laurie's work hours we don't get to bed until after 2:00
a.m. As a result we don't roll out of be until about 9:30 most
mornings. That means breakfast around ten. We then have our dinner
(biggest meal of the day) between noon and 12:30. So, if I test before
eating it is not more than two hours after breakfast. Normally my BG
at that time will run anywhere from 105 to 130.

So long as I am running in that area I am not too concerned.

The only time I ever test only one hour after eating is if I eat
something that think is likely to spike me. One reason is that I
believe in taking my time to eat. Any meal worth eating should take
thirty minutes or more to eat. Since it is commonly recommended to
test at two hours after the first bite, at the one hour mark it has
been less than half an hour since I finished eating. Even when I have
toast, Crystal Lite and coffee, I read the newspaper at the same time
and it takes at least 40 minutes. Eating is an experience to be
enjoyed to the utmost and should be savored.

FYI, from the box of Jimmy Dean Croissant Sandwiches with Ham &
Cheese:

Total fat             13 grams
    Saturated    4 grams
    Trans fat        3 grams

Cholesterol        25 mg.

Sodium                      760 mg. (TOO MUCH)

Total carbohydrates    29 grams
    Dietary fiber     1 gram
    Sugars         5 grams

Protein            12 grams

I have tried some of the things suggested for breakfast such as fish,
beef stew and that kind of thing. Thanks, but no thanks. I don't like
gagging on my breakfast. It was hard enough for me to give up cold
cereal and orange juice. I don't crave them now like I did at first,
but I just can't abide dinner items for breakfast.

Some of you will recall when I first came into ASD I said, "I will not
be a slave to this disease." I still feel that way. That doesn't mean
that I don't watch what I put in my mouth and pay special attention to
the carb content.    

I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
flame me for it as they did when I mentioned early on that we eat
pizza fairly often.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
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BlueBrooke - 07 Dec 2006 18:10 GMT
><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>eat two 5 carb 6 oz containers of yogurt for breakfast, and I still
>>can pop a 140 at 1PP at least twice a week.

[snip]

>I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
>liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
>flame me for it as they did when I mentioned early on that we eat
>pizza fairly often.

I don't think anyone is out to flame you.  If you are going to say
they have "just the right amount of carbs" inquiring minds are going
to want to know how you came to that conclusion.  

Since the mantra here is YMMV, I'd be pretty surprised to find that
anyone tried them without testing to see their individual reaction (I
don't need to test to know I wouldn't be able to eat them at all). But
what surprises me is that you're recommending them and it seems you
haven't even tested them for yourself?  

Or am I still not understanding your testing procedures?  Or lack
thereof?  

And no, this isn't a flame -- it's nothing to me how much pizza you
eat.  ;-)
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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 20:12 GMT
>><snip>
>>
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>they have "just the right amount of carbs" inquiring minds are going
>to want to know how you came to that conclusion.  

If I say, "just the right amount of carbs" I am talking about myself
and no one else since the only person I can really say that about is
me.

>Since the mantra here is YMMV, I'd be pretty surprised to find that
>anyone tried them without testing to see their individual reaction (I
>don't need to test to know I wouldn't be able to eat them at all). But
>what surprises me is that you're recommending them and it seems you
>haven't even tested them for yourself?  

You really didn't read all of my post, did you? Since we eat dinner
right at two hours after when I test before dinner I am testing to see
what has happened. So long as my BG has gone down from what my FBG was
I am happy with the result.

>Or am I still not understanding your testing procedures?  Or lack
>thereof?  

If you had paid attention to the post you are replying to you would
already have had an answer to that.

>And no, this isn't a flame -- it's nothing to me how much pizza you
>eat.  ;-)

LOL
When I first mentioned it I was jumped on by many of the regulars
because they believed I was telling newbies that pizza is alright.
Just because I can eat it and not spike does not mean that others can.
I did take the time to explain exactly what kind of pizza and the fact
that it is ONLY thin crust pizza, but I was lambasted anyway. But that
is ancient history.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
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Cheri - 07 Dec 2006 20:18 GMT
Think cotton candy Chuck. LOL

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GrandpaChuck wrote in message

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>If I say, "just the right amount of carbs" I am talking about myself
>and no one else since the only person I can really say that about is
>me.
Hi_Therre - 07 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
>Think cotton candy Chuck. LOL

Isn't cotton candy loaded with carbs and sugar?
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>>Think cotton candy Chuck. LOL
>
>Isn't cotton candy loaded with carbs and sugar?
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You think?
It's nothing less than spun sugar with a little coloring and flavoring
added. It comes along with the fond memories of the Linn County Fair
from my childhood. Get it a little wet and it shrinks down to a hard
piece of sugar and just isn't the same.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

Cheri - 08 Dec 2006 00:29 GMT
Yes, it's a joke. Chuck mentioned eating it when he first came to the
newsgroup a few years ago, along with the pizza. :-)

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Hi_Therre wrote in message ...

>>Think cotton candy Chuck. LOL
>
>Isn't cotton candy loaded with carbs and sugar?
GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
>Think cotton candy Chuck. LOL

I think of it every time I see it at WalMart. Now they have it in
rather small plastic containers instead of the bags. It's pretty to
look at, but......
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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 20:14 GMT
Apparently the subject line should read, "......just the right amount
of carbs for me."

Picky, picky, picky.
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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

Alan S - 07 Dec 2006 21:42 GMT
>Apparently the subject line should read, "......just the right amount
>of carbs for me."
>
>Picky, picky, picky.

There are times when accuracy counts; particularly with
absolute statements.

The picky one seems to be the one getting annoyed at
responses suggesting some justification was needed.

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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 23:13 GMT
>>Apparently the subject line should read, "......just the right amount
>>of carbs for me."
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

Could be Alan, but I would think that most everyone knows that we
speak only from our own experiences.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

Alan S - 07 Dec 2006 21:39 GMT
>I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
>liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
>flame me for it as they did when I mentioned early on that we eat
>pizza fairly often.

Chuck, if you consider a question on the test result when
you post a recommendation for a 29gm carb breakfast a
"flame" - then you're getting just a tad over-sensitive.

Why not just test at an hour after the next one, just to
show those concerned that they/I are unduly concerned?

Some can handle high carbs for breakfast, I can't. And, if
you're not testing for the spike - you don't really know.
But, hey - your body, your responsibility; but stop getting
cheesed off if others wonder about things from a post like
that.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 23:18 GMT
>>I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
>>liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Why not just test at an hour after the next one, just to
>show those concerned that they/I are unduly concerned?

After the first bite at 10 a.m. or after the last bite around 10:30 or
so? Actually, even when I eat something carby like oatmeal with 2%
milk and a teaspoon of sugar my bg goes down from what it was when I
got out of bed.

>Some can handle high carbs for breakfast, I can't. And, if
>you're not testing for the spike - you don't really know.
>But, hey - your body, your responsibility; but stop getting
>cheesed off if others wonder about things from a post like
>that.

Perhaps with the worries I have had about Laurie's heart nuclear
stress test has me a bit edgier than usual. If so, I apologize.  The
doctor's office finally called this afternoon and said it was totally
negative. In other words, there is nothing whatever wrong with her
heart.

>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

TaniO - 07 Dec 2006 23:40 GMT
>>> I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
>>> liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> negative. In other words, there is nothing whatever wrong with her
> heart.

That's terrific news, Chuck. No wonder you were
worried.

TaniO

>> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>> d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
>> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Alan S - 08 Dec 2006 00:12 GMT
> In other words, there is nothing whatever wrong with her
>heart.

Wonderful to hear - of course there does seem to be one very
odd thing about it.

She lost it - to you:-)

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GrandpaChuck - 08 Dec 2006 04:40 GMT
>> In other words, there is nothing whatever wrong with her
>>heart.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>She lost it - to you:-)

Hey Alan, I have been trying to figure that one out for a very long
time. Some things we shouldn't question, but just accept our
blessings.
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Americans killed in Iraq as of December 06, 2006 is 2930. United Kingdom = 126 Other = 121.
Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

Nicky - 08 Dec 2006 13:53 GMT
> Perhaps with the worries I have had about Laurie's heart nuclear
> stress test has me a bit edgier than usual. If so, I apologize.  The
> doctor's office finally called this afternoon and said it was totally
> negative. In other words, there is nothing whatever wrong with her
> heart.

Oh, that is good news!

And I'm glad I scrolled down the thread after reading what would be an
impossible breakfast for me to find out what all the discussion was :D

Nicky.

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Hi_Therre - 07 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
>Because of Laurie's work hours we don't get to bed until after 2:00
>a.m. As a result we don't roll out of be until about 9:30 most
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>flame me for it as they did when I mentioned early on that we eat
>pizza fairly often.

If you can do it, then go for it.  Pizza is just a memory for me.
There is no way I could eat pizza without using a huge amount of
novolog.  Not something I look forward to.  I do miss all that good
food like pizza, pasta, cakes, pies, etc that I used to eat before DX.

One thing I really miss is pecan pie and rocky road ice cream.  I used
to scarf it down all the time.  For Thanksgiving, everybody was
scarfing down mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, and that beautiful
pecan pie.  I said the hell with it and grabbed just a small slice.  I
think I used 6u novolog prior to dinner to cover everything.  That
damn pie blew me right out of the water to about 240.  I think I used
another 7 or 8u to break the spike.

Every time I divert from my very restricted food intake, that damn BG
graph tells me - hey stupid, stop that damn sh.t.  I spike very easy.
GrandpaChuck - 08 Dec 2006 00:15 GMT
<snip>

>>I mentioned these breakfast sandwiches because I found them to my
>>liking and only 29 grams of carbs. It appears as if some are out to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>novolog.  Not something I look forward to.  I do miss all that good
>food like pizza, pasta, cakes, pies, etc that I used to eat before DX.

I am T2 on oral meds. I found through trying pizza and testing that I
can eat 3 slices of very thin crust so long as I leave the edge crust
alone and don't have any topping that would add significant carbs
without spiking. Yes, I have tested at 1, 2, and 3 hours after.

>One thing I really miss is pecan pie and rocky road ice cream.

I don't miss the pecan pie; it's too rich for me even before diabetes.
I do have ice cream once in awhile for a scheduled snack in a small
enough serving so it equals one exchange (15g) or less of carbs. There
are few foods that I avoid and those that I do I didn't like very much
anyway, such as rice.

>  I used
>to scarf it down all the time.  For Thanksgiving, everybody was
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Every time I divert from my very restricted food intake, that damn BG
>graph tells me - hey stupid, stop that damn sh.t.  I spike very easy.

Yep. It took me quite a little while to teach myself portion control.
I believe I have mentioned here before that the day my doctor
diagnosed my diabetes he told me to take my meds but not test on
Thanksgiving, Christmas, our anniversary and my birthday, then get
back on my regular meal plan the day after. I have found though that I
do not eat the large servings and seconds that I formerly did. Portion
control has become such a part of me that I just do it automatically
with most foods.

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Non-Mortal American casualties 46,137 as of November 04, 2006.
Over 100 Iraqi civilians are killed every day. Most by so-called insurgents.  
As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair Lewis

bittersweet - 07 Dec 2006 14:08 GMT
>>And the one-hour is...?
>
>Beats me. I rarely test again until just before lunch. I am sure it is
>better than when I have my usual 2 slices of whole wheat toast with
>peanut butter or a bowl of oatmeal with 2% milk and better for me.

...Just curious: how can you tell that it has "just the right amount
of carbs" if you don't test after eating it?

--bittersweet
GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 17:51 GMT
>>>And the one-hour is...?
>>
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>
>--bittersweet

See what I just posted.
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WoolyGooly - 07 Dec 2006 03:35 GMT
>Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>than the ones sold at fast food restaurants and priced at around a
>dollar a piece.

I make breakfast sandwiches from scratch for a lot less:

Scratch biscuits: Sift a teaspoon of baking powder with a cup of soft
flour; cut in 2T of butter (shortening if you can't stand the thought
of saturated dairy fat!), fork in enough milk to moisten.  Pat out
into general biscuit shapes and bake in a hot oven until done.

Meanwhile fry a couple of slices of bacon.  Make scrambles by
scrambling one egg with one tablespoon of milk in a soup bowl and nuke
for 60-75 seconds.    If you have kids add a drop of blue food
coloring to each egg as you scramble it - green eggs and ham!!
This produces a disc of scrambled egg just the right size to fold into
quarters on your biscuit.  Cut the ham into pieces that will also fit
on the biscuits.

Pull out the biscuits.  Split, slap one scramble and a piece of ham on
one half of each biscuit, add a slice of cheese and slide under the
broiler for 30 seconds.

Done.  Costs me about 50 cents per biscuit.  They're a Sunday treat
and I only eat half a biscuit with my ham and eggs.

A faster method is to use English muffins: split and toast, add
ham/egg/cheese and run.  English muffins aren't as crumby either, so
they're more car-friendly than biscuits.
Jackie Patti - 07 Dec 2006 19:44 GMT
> I make breakfast sandwiches from scratch for a lot less:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> ham/egg/cheese and run.  English muffins aren't as crumby either, so
> they're more car-friendly than biscuits.

I do something similar with low-carb tortillas sometimes, maybe 2-3
times a year or so.

I cook a pound of bulk breakfast sausage with diced bell peppers and
onions.  Then I scramble a dozen eggs mixed with some diced tomatoes and
cream in a bit of the sausage grease.  Then I make burritos with a layer
of sausage/veggies, a layer of eggs/tomatoes, and about an ounce of
shredded cheese, roll and freeze them.

Each nukes up in about a minute and is only about 6-8g carb each
(depending on the tortillas you use).  They keep well just wrapped in
plastic wrap for a few weeks easily.

I mostly do this cause I can never figure out what to do with an entire
pound of breakfast sausage at a time.  It seems to take a good dozen
eggs to "go" with a pound of sausage.

The other thing I do is sorta similar... fry the sausage, peppers and
onions, drain and lay in a casserole, mix the eggs and tomatoes with a
bit of cream and pour over top, bake for about a half hour, add about a
half pound of shredded cheese, and bake another 10 minutes or so.  This
doesn't freeze, but sits in the fridge where we can take slices off it
for a few days.  It also works well when you have a bunch of nondiabetic
houseguests cause you can serve a nice homemade loaf of whole wheat
bread on the side for them.
Kurt - 07 Dec 2006 03:38 GMT
> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> than the ones sold at fast food restaurants and priced at around a
> dollar a piece.

Well, they may taste good and might be bg friendly, but they seem to
have a lot of fat and sodium in them.  Although this info is for the
biscuit kind maybe the croissant kind have less. I guess nothing is
really good for us and if it floats your boat, more power to you.

http://www.elook.org/nutrition/meals/5705.html

Best,
Kurt
GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 04:07 GMT
>> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Best,
>Kurt

The ones we buy are not frozen. They are in the same section as the
bacon, sausage, etc.

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Gantlet - 07 Dec 2006 18:40 GMT
>> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Best,
> Kurt

Sure I would eat meals like that from time to time.
what i find odd is the subject of the post.
lol the low carbers are gasping from the type and amount of carbs.
and those on low fat are looking at the Sausage,egg and cheese all in 1
meal.
Today I making a pulled pork recipe in my slow cooker.  first i will cook
the country style rips in seasoned water for 6 hours, put in fridge for 1
day, take ribs out of the fatty water and cook in bbq sauce for another 8
hours.
I may skim the fat off the water and save that water from something else.
i know cooking it like that will take a lot of the fat and flavor away but
its sill going to be really tastey :).  it wont be on one of my good for
lunch or dinner lists just a lil treat.

Tom

Tom
Cheri - 07 Dec 2006 20:30 GMT
I'm making pork myself today, a roast. I'm also making some roasted
fennel. I haven't had pork for awhile, and am tired of chicken and fish.
I loaned my truck to a friend for the week, so I've been on foot,
walking everywhere, actually enjoying it, so I'll splurge a bit and have
one chocolate covered cherry before my final walk later today. :-)

--
Cheri

Gantlet wrote in message ...

>Today I making a pulled pork recipe in my slow cooker.  first i will cook
>the country style rips in seasoned water for 6 hours, put in fridge for 1
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Tom
GrandpaChuck - 07 Dec 2006 23:19 GMT
>I'm making pork myself today, a roast. I'm also making some roasted
>fennel. I haven't had pork for awhile, and am tired of chicken and fish.
>I loaned my truck to a friend for the week, so I've been on foot,
>walking everywhere, actually enjoying it, so I'll splurge a bit and have
>one chocolate covered cherry before my final walk later today. :-)

Okay, so what changes pork roast into pulled pork?

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As of December 07, 2006 it has been 1314 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished."
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Cheri - 08 Dec 2006 00:27 GMT
I think pulled pork is cooked to the point that it easily shreds when
you pull it apart with two forks, as in BBQ pork, at least that's what
it means to me. :-)

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Cheri

GrandpaChuck wrote in message ...

>Okay, so what changes pork roast into pulled pork?
Susan - 08 Dec 2006 01:10 GMT
>>I'm making pork myself today, a roast. I'm also making some roasted
>>fennel. I haven't had pork for awhile, and am tired of chicken and fish.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Okay, so what changes pork roast into pulled pork?

Slow cooking, some 'cue sauce and shredding it  with two forks.

Susan
Ozgirl - 07 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
> "Kurt" <kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:1165462716.025481.221940@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> Last week we bought some of the Jimmy Dean breakfast sandwiches made
>>> with a croissant, ham, egg and cheese. We also bought the ones with
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Today I making a pulled pork recipe in my slow cooker.  first i will
> cook the country style rips in seasoned water for 6 hours,
put in
> fridge for 1 day, take ribs out of the fatty water and
cook in bbq
> sauce for another 8 hours.
> I may skim the fat off the water and save that water from something
> else. i know cooking it like that will take a lot of the
fat and
> flavor away but its sill going to be really tastey :).  it
wont be on
> one of my good for lunch or dinner lists just a lil treat.

I try wherever possible to slow cook a meal the day before,
put it in the fridge and the fat sets hard on the top and
you can pick it off.
 
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