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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / December 2006Demon Mark W. Phelps: It started with not honoring his dad, whom he had judged.
http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm *** Begin letter *** "Many people have been asking me, over the past several weeks, about my father. They want to know what I think about him and 'What is he really like?' People's interest in what I think baffles me, but after careful consideration, I decided to respond. What is he like? Well, it's been 19 years since I left home, but his behavior still appears to be the same. He considers his environment to be against him without admitting, acknowledging or taking responsibility for how he contributes to that. He likes to show himself as being moral, pro-family, pro-Bible, but his actions just don't add up to that. I believe in God and the Bible, and my father's behavior doesn't fit the description of behavior that would show in the life of one who loves God; behavior characteristics such as Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-control. Instead, my father's behavior characterizes, I believe, Hate, Outbursts of Wrath, Contention, Jealousy, Vengefulness, Misery, Harshness, and Selfish ambition. He mis-states the truth about his own behavior, about others, about the Bible, with apparent ease and regularity. He behaves with a viciousness the likes of which I have never seen. He accepts no genuine accountability in his life and is subject to no one. His lifestyle betrays the sacred trust of what a pastor, husband, father and grandfather should be. I suppose if a comparison were made between the life of Jesus Christ and my father, there would not be much to compare. I also realize that my father is a very unstable person who is determined to hurt people. And because he is so bound to be hateful and hurtful, and because he's so untrustworthy, I believe it's a good idea to respond to him with caution much like the caution used when dealing with a rattlesnake or a mad dog. You see, the causes that he crusades for, including the Bible, are not the issue here. He simply wants to hate and to have a forum for his hate. If the causes he focuses on were the issue, that is, if they really meant something to him in his heart and he meant for the things he does to be for the good, his behavior would not be what it is. He would not betray his message with his behavior. But, when he needs to, to vent his hate, he readily goes outside the bounds of any previously stated 'value' or 'cause' he may have supported. He experiences no moral dilemma when it comes to doing what he wants to do. If it weren't the homosexuals, it would be something else. Yet checks and balances on his behavior are appropriate, on the part of the community, in order to at least confine his destructive behaviors and to limit his influence. I believe that Topekans are making a good effort to try and stop him and should continue to do so. He can seem very intimidating. He can use foul language and come across with a booming voice to the community, but the truth is, like the Wizard of Oz, when Toto pulls the curtain back, instead of this big powerful individual, it's only a small, pathetic old man. I feel sorry for my father as I would for anyone who displays this kind of hate and evil viciousness. These can only be the manifestations of tortured, injured and agonizing souls." -- Mark W. Phelps *** End letter *** It saddens me to read this. Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have peace. Laus Deo ! ! May GOD continue to heal the hearts of his mom and dad and other family and friends with HIS living water so that they can love others a little bit more and GOD a lot more, in Jesus' most precious and holy name. Amen. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love > http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > Andrew <>< Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright evil. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright > evil. Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my iniquities. May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who did in excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear > neighbor whom I love unconditionally. ...still waiting for you to enlighten us all as to how Sigmund could have gnashed his teeth while lacking a lower jaw... -- cary Nasty psychobot B'Chung, Klingon master of wretched axcuses wrote: > > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright > > evil. > > Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. It's a pity it doesn't bother you enough to face up to it. > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my > iniquities. What truth? The truth is that Fred Phelps is a hateful, petty, sad, latently homosexual (although we don't hold that against him, only how he deals with it) maniac, and you are deluded enough to consider him a good and honorable man. His son Mark was intelligent enough to see Fred for what he was and managed to escape that horrible little family, and you consider him evil for it. You condemn him for not honoring his father. Fred Phelps is not worthy of anyone's honor. He is a disgrace to the human species. You despise Mark Phelps for his intelligence and compassion: positive human qualities (contrary to what you believe) that he developed in spite of his father's influence. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > > > > > > > Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? > > > Thank you for demonstrating that you are not only insane, but downright > > > evil. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What truth? Your question reminds me of that which Governor Pontius Pilate asked of LORD Jesus Christ. Here is HIS answer: "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ Amen !!! Laus Deo !!!!! Marana tha !!!!!!! May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose to curse HIM as did atheist psychologist Sigmund Freud who died in excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear neighbor whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ Chapter and verse, please, in which Jesus said that in response to Pilate's question. Please put your Scriptural reference here ----> -- cary > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ That is your answer. You have absolutely zero evidence that your god exists or that your jesus had any supernatural characteristics. Demonstrate that your bible is anything more than a book of ancient mythology and we will stop looking on you with contempt and pity. Until then, you are no different from someone who worships the gods of ancient Greece or Egypt. Demon MWPhelps wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps wrote: [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > That is your answer. I am not LORD Jesus Christ. We, the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ, have chosen to walk ever closer to HIM so that those who are of the world like you, demon MWPhelps, routinely get us confused with HIM. This is why you needed to pay Judas Iscariot to lead you to HIM. It was not until Judas kissed Jesus that you knew HIM from either Peter, John, or the others: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Per article <1165761656.949550.78590@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <love2@thetruth.com> said: > I am not LORD Jesus Christ. That first step towards sanity was a hard one, eh?  SignatureCm~ And "freedom of speech" is something that allows retarded kooks like you to scribble invalid and impotent collections of words and place them out in the public. >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > Sorry the truth bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my > iniquities. The truth is, Fred Phelps is an evil man. Your choice to defend evil means you are evil. SignatureMark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -H. L. Mencken > http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > It saddens me to read this. Why? Do you find Fred Phelps to be an admirable Christian? Do you think his actions bear witness to the message of Christ? -- cary > http://www.plattsburghforpeace.com/fredphelps.htm > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > It saddens me to read this. It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind. > Clearly, demon Mark W. Phelps has been projecting from the outset: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? God be praised for compelling Andrew to conclusively prove that he has no connection with the Holy Spirit. I did not write the words which Andrew quoted. My dad's name isn't Fred; I don't even have a "Fred" in my family. The benefit in Andrew's failure here is that it clearly demonstrates two things: how desperate he is, and how disconnected from God he is. May the readers be encouraged to avoid the path of blasphemy which Andrew has chosen. Andrew is reaping what he sowed when he utterly rejected God by blaspheming the Holy Spirit. > When the fires descend upon him from heaven, Mark will finally have > peace. And here I thought Andrew was calling down fire upon me. He was calling it down upon Mark W. Phelps all along. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > It would. Fred Phelps and Andrew Chung are two-of-a-kind. What you see that is in common between your dad and me is the love that we both have for GOD. Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp Fear GOD and dread nothing (especially not demons) that is of this world: http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought You clearly have become satan's minion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? In the Holy Spirit, I know you used to be Mark W. Phelps: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.marriage/msg/c7c2e04ebcdbf3f5? > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > What you see that is in common between your dad and me is the love that > we both have for GOD. Andrew's tailspin continues. My dad's name is not Fred; and the only love Fred Phelps has is for himself. This is a flaw which Andrew shares with Fred Phelps. > Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, > mind, and strength: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.marriage/msg/c7c2e04ebcdbf3f5? Praise God for compelling Andrew to reveal that he thinks Google is the Holy Spirit. Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that conviction. Make no mistake: the Holy Spirit does not need me in order to convict Andrew of his sin. Andrew's desperation will continue with or without me, because I am not the source of his conviction. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > love Fred Phelps has is for himself. This is a flaw which Andrew shares > with Fred Phelps. >From your judgment of your dad, it is understandable why you have rejected him. >From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his heart, soul, mind, and strength. Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD. Your having 12 other siblings with only 3 others estranged from him like you would indicate that you are untruthful about your dad having love only for himself. If this were true, he would have 13 estranged children along with an estranged wife. > > Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, > > mind, and strength: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Praise God for compelling Andrew to reveal that he thinks Google is the > Holy Spirit. Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit continues. > Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction > of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that > conviction. The purpose of the holy fires being called down from heaven is to lovingly put you out of your misery and to protect others from you. Just as GOD allowed satan to speak his mind (Book of Job), so HE has and will continue to allow you to do the same for now. It remains HIS infinite will that souls retain HIS generous gift of free will. > Make no mistake: the Holy Spirit does not need me in order > to convict Andrew of his sin. Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you. As for my sins: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Christ.asp > Andrew's desperation will continue with > or without me, because I am not the source of his conviction. You are projecting again: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >>> Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>From your judgment of your dad, it is understandable why you have > rejected him. I haven't rejected my dad. >>From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his > heart, soul, mind, and strength. My dad has no sermons. > Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the > brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > love only for himself. If this were true, he would have 13 estranged > children along with an estranged wife. I do not have 12 siblings. >>> Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, >>> mind, and strength: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit continues. Praise God for compelling Andrew to speak these words to himself. >> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction >> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you. Andrew's false testimony against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. > As for my sins: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Andrew, lost as he is, cannot help but resort to fleshly tactics such as psychobabble. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > > I haven't rejected my dad. You have rejected your biological dad. > >>From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his > >> heart, soul, mind, and strength. > > My dad has no sermons. Your biological dad does. > > Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the > > brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I do not have 12 siblings. You have 12 biological siblings. > >>> Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, > >>> mind, and strength: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Praise God for compelling Andrew to speak these words to himself. Actually, I have written them to you. > >> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction > >> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > >> Make no mistake: **the Holy Spirit does not need me** in order **emphasis** added. > >> to convict Andrew of his sin. > > > > Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you. > > Andrew's false testimony against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. "the Holy Spirit does not need me" are your words. See **emphasis** above. > > As for my sins: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Andrew, lost as he is, cannot help but resort to fleshly tactics such as > psychobabble. Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > Your biological dad does. <SNIP> MARK PHELPS, SON OF FRED PHELPS, DOES NOT POST HERE YOU IDIOT. SignatureMark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ If their omnipotent, omniscient (so they say) god wants me to believe in him, then he should know what would prove his existence to me. He hasn't done so yet, so there is no reason to believe in him. -Woden > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > MARK PHELPS, SON OF FRED PHELPS, DOES NOT POST HERE YOU IDIOT. Eh? Speak up sonny, my tinitus is giving me fits today. -- cary >> > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] >> >> MARK PHELPS, SON OF FRED PHELPS, DOES NOT POST HERE YOU IDIOT. As he shouldn't this is a Christian NG isn't it. >Eh? Speak up sonny, my tinitus is giving me fits today. > >-- cary >> > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > Eh? Speak up sonny, my tinitus is giving me fits today. WHA'D YOU SAY??? SignatureMark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca the Younger > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: {...} > > >> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction > > >> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > "the Holy Spirit does not need me" are your words. See **emphasis** > above. Actually, what the world can see is desperately dishonest mis-editing, since Mark's actual words were: Make no mistake: the Holy Spirit does not need me in order to convict Andrew of his sin. but you maliciously snipped to try to put an entirely different and misleading meaning into his mouth. -- cary >> Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > but you maliciously snipped to try to put an entirely > different and misleading meaning into his mouth. Such is the outcome of Andrew's despair and cowardice. > -- cary Andrew B. Chung, unable to bear the weighty conviction of the Holy Spirit, wrote: > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, without the Holy Spirit, arrogantly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > You have rejected your biological dad. Andrew is deluded. I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. We expressed our love and affection for one another. >>> >From your dad's sermons it is clear that he loves GOD with all his >>>> heart, soul, mind, and strength. >> My dad has no sermons. > > Your biological dad does. Andrew is deluded. My biological dad has no sermons. >>> Whether he has room in his heart to love others besides GOD and the >>> brethren of LORD Jesus Christ is known only to GOD. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You have 12 biological siblings. Andrew is deluded. I have 0 biological siblings. >>>>> Yes, most assuredly, without doubt, I love GOD with all my heart, soul, >>>>> mind, and strength: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Actually, I have written them to you. Andrew is deluded. He wrote them to himself due to the conviction of the Holy Spirit upon his life. >>>> Andrew continues to act out of desperation, hoping to end the conviction >>>> of the Holy Spirit by silencing me, the current conduit of that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > **emphasis** added. Putting the sentence back together, after Andrew hacked it apart in a desperate act of cowardice: The Holy Spirit does not need me in order to convict Andrew of his sin. With or without me, the Holy Spirit's conviction will continue to torment Andrew. >>>> to convict Andrew of his sin. >>> Correct. The Holy Spirit has no need for demons like you. >> Andrew's false testimony against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. > > "the Holy Spirit does not need me" are your words. See **emphasis** > above. Yes, please do see the emphasis above, which is part of Andrew's act of despair and cowardice. Andrew is deluded if he thinks that the Holy Spirit will cease to convict him without me as His instrument. The conviction of the Holy Spirit will continue to torment Andrew, with or without me. >>> As for my sins: >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Praise God for revealing that Andrew's beliefs are meaningless, since he is without the Lord. By Andrew's own words, he has testified that he has no relationship with Christ Jesus; for Andrew insists that use of the article "the" in front of "Lord" signifies that the user has no relationship with Christ. All thanks, all glory, all honor, and all praise to God for continually protecting me from the Prince of Darkness, and from Andrew his minion. God protects me from their false and impotent "fire from heaven" by feeding them counter-intelligence in the form of the wrong target, so that their "fire" is misdirected. As I watch the barrage of hatred from Andrew fly over my head and land in the wrong place, I give glory to God for his gracious protection of me. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > Andrew is deluded. In this continued ever closer walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well. > I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. Glad to read this. > We expressed our love and affection for one another. Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you to reconcile with your biological dad and to renounce your earlier false witness that he loved only himself. If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Per article <1165347197.221956.258830@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> posted in newsgroup alt.usenet.kooks, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <love6@thetruth.com> said: > Christ Jesus, HE keeps me And somehow you broke off your leash and now UseNet must suffer from your yapping. SignatureCm~ > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:: [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > In this continued ever closer walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me > completely well. Typical of the deluded to think that they are completely well. > > I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to reconcile with your biological dad and to renounce your earlier > false witness that he loved only himself. Andrew remains deluded. My biological dad and I were never at odds. Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. That Andrew continues to propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair. Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation. > If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's > time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your > choice to blaspheme the Holy Spirit: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > Typical of the deluded to think that they are completely well. Typical of satan-worshippers to believe that the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are delusional. > > > I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Andrew remains deluded. See above. > My biological dad and I were never at odds. That is not what I discern. > Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. >From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you would reject your biological dad entirely. > That Andrew continues to > propogate this provides further evidence of his confusion and despair. > Perhaps Andrew just needs a vacation. You are projecting. > > If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's > > time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will > continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. Again, you are projecting: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > Typical of satan-worshippers to believe that the brethren of LORD Jesus > Christ are delusional. God be praised for compelling Andrew to confess that he is a satan-worshipper. >>>> I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. >>> Glad to read this. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > That is not what I discern. Andrew is completely mistaken and deluded; a fact which should indicate to him that his discernment is faulty. A person such as Andrew, who is trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy Spirit, has lost even that faculty. >> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You are projecting. Andrew is desperate. >>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's >>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Without the LORD, your concerns are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Did Andrew write "the LORD"? Did Andrew just attach "the" to "LORD"? According to Andrew, Andrew is himself without a relationship with the Lord. >> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will >> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. > > Again, you are projecting: Andrew is desperate. However, Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as far as I am concerned. > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 98 lines] > God be praised for compelling Andrew to confess that he is a > satan-worshipper. Your blaspheming the Holy Spirit has resulted in a loss of reading comprehension. > >>>> I just spoke with my biological dad this morning. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Andrew is completely mistaken and deluded; a fact which should indicate > to him that his discernment is faulty. Hint: There is only one Son Who has never be at odds with HIS Father. You are not this sinless Son. > A person such as Andrew, who is > trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the > skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy > Spirit, has lost even that faculty. You are not the Holy Spirit. However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above. > >> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Andrew is desperate. You are still projecting. > >>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's > >>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Did Andrew write "the LORD"? Yes. There are many lords. Christ Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords. HE is the LORD of lords. Jesus is LORD GOD Almighty. > Did Andrew just attach "the" to "LORD"? Because there are many lords, "the" is necessary here. > According to Andrew, Andrew is himself without a relationship with the Lord. Your past use of "the" with LORD Jesus Christ was inappropriate for someone claiming to be HIS brethren and revealed that you did not have a personal relationship with HIM. Retrospectively we now know why. In your letter about you dad, you wrote about believing God and the Bible but there is no mention about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Negatively comparing your dad to Jesus Christ indicates that you have been using HIS name to commit the sin of dishonoring your dad instead of walking with HIM in a personal relationship. > >> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will > >> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. > > > > Again, you are projecting: > > Andrew is desperate. Again, you are still projecting: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? > However, Andrew's false testimony is forgiven, as > far as I am concerned. It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully so there has been no false testimony. Instead, your bearing false witness is forgiven though only GOD can forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned. This saddens me. > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > > Hint: There is only one Son Who has never be at odds with HIS Father. Hint: my biological dad and I have NEVER been at odds. Andrew's envy is showing. Andrew will just have to swallow his envy and deal with the facts. > You are not this sinless Son. I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew will just have to deal with it. It is not my fault if Andrew's dad mistreated him, and that this causes Andrew to yearn jealously for a healthy dad/son relationship. >> A person such as Andrew, who is >> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the >> skills of deduction. However, Andrew Chung, having blasphemed the Holy >> Spirit, has lost even that faculty. > > You are not the Holy Spirit. Never claimed to be. Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy Spirit. > However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and > have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above. No. But this is clearly true of Andrew Chung. >>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. >>> From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You are still projecting. Andrew is desperate. With no source of knowledge to tap into since he blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble. >>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's >>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > someone claiming to be HIS brethren and revealed that you did not have > a personal relationship with HIM. Andrew's own words condemn him. > Retrospectively we now know why. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you have been using HIS name to commit the sin of dishonoring your dad > instead of walking with HIM in a personal relationship. In his arrogance and despair, Andrew cannot bear the idea that he's wrong about me. In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the Spirit". One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with the Holy Spirit. Another implication is that Andrew was led to the Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has chosen to utterly reject Him. Yet another implication is that Andrew will have to actually admit to his wrong-doing. This is likely the most painful implication for Andrew, since he displays classic over-achiever behaviors. Recent research has been empirically demonstrating that men of less-than-average stature tend to behave "over-the-top" in order to compensate for their lack of height. The literature suggests that this is especially true of men of Asian descent. Clearly, one of the three implications is the case. >>>> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will >>>> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully so there has been > no false testimony. And yet, Andrew continues to write lies. Andrew is indeed exercising a choice, but it is not the one he claims. > Instead, your bearing false witness is forgiven though only GOD can > forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? If Andrew had any clue how to understand the Word of God, he would know (a) what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is, (b) that he is guilty of it, (c) that I am not guilty of it, and (d) that while God *can* forgive it, He will not forgive it. > In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad > and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological > family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from > them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned. What an amusing sentence! Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions: ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad; ~None of his children are my biological siblings; ~I have zero biological siblings; ~Andrew Chung is wrong; ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit; ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case; ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric; ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical; ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face"; ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some very important ways. > This saddens me. Actually, it shames Andrew. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > Hint: my biological dad and I have NEVER been at odds. Andrew's envy is > showing. Andrew will just have to swallow his envy and deal with the facts. Without the LORD, your fantasies, which includes an imaginary biological dad, are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). > > You are not this sinless Son. > > I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew > will just have to deal with it. It is not my fault if Andrew's dad > mistreated him, and that this causes Andrew to yearn jealously for a > healthy dad/son relationship. In this imperfect world, an absence of discipline and correction is an unhealthy dad/son relationship except when the Son is LORD Jesus Christ. > >> A person such as Andrew, who is > >> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Never claimed to be. You have implied it. > Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy > Spirit. Again, you are not the Holy Spirit. > > However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and > > have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above. > > No. But this is clearly true of Andrew Chung. Your inability to maintain eye contact is telling. > >>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Andrew is desperate. Again, you are still projecting. > With no source of knowledge to tap into since he > blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble. No, simply observing you. > >>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's > >>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Andrew's own words condemn him. Again, you are projecting. > > Retrospectively we now know why. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > In his arrogance and despair, Andrew cannot bear the idea that he's > wrong about me. Your inability to maintain eye contact remains telling. > In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face > the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the > Spirit". Again, you are projecting. > One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with > the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is non-corporeal. There is no contact to be made. Those in the Holy Spirit know this. > Another implication is that Andrew was led to the > Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > compensate for their lack of height. The literature suggests that this > is especially true of men of Asian descent. Actually, my height is above average. > Clearly, one of the three implications is the case. Your attempt to shift the focus from your identity is telling. > >>>> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will > >>>> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > And yet, Andrew continues to write lies. Andrew is indeed exercising a > choice, but it is not the one he claims. It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully while concurrently stating that one of us is untruthful. > > Instead, your bearing false witness is forgiven though only GOD can > > forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If Andrew had any clue how to understand the Word of God, he would know > (a) what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is, In the Holy Spirit, I know. > (b) that he is guilty of it, Again, your false witness is forgiven though only GOD can forgive your greater sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. See above. > (c) that I am not guilty of it, and What has been archived in Google where you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Who was guiding another member of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ to challenge you, is irrefutable. > (d) that while God *can* forgive it, He will not forgive it. The latter is up to GOD. HE has changed HIS mind before (Book of Jonah) and can do this again. > > In the Holy Spirit, I know that Pastor Phelps is your biological dad > > and that you have cut yourself completely off from your biological > > family so that for all intents and purposes, in your estrangement from > > them, they are not your biological family as far as you are concerned. > > What an amusing sentence! Your feigned amusement > Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions: > > ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad; Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., however is your biological dad. > ~None of his children are my biological siblings; The biological children of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. are your biological siblings. > ~I have zero biological siblings; Yes, you are estranged from them as well > ~Andrew Chung is wrong; Your atheist friends want to believe this but that would mean that they would have to believe you. As you should be well aware by now, they are adverse to placing their faith in anything. I suspect that many have a nagging suspicion that you are Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. They remember asking you and getting a non-response. > ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit; There is no other explanation for how I know your identity. > ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case; It remains my choice to trust the Holy Spirit and accept HIS guidance in everything I say, do and write. > ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric; It remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that needs saving here. > ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical; Indeed, it has been anticipated. > ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face"; Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that needs saving here. > ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some > very important ways. Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily to remain a new creature in HIM so that neither pride nor shame is a problem. > > This saddens me. > > Actually, it shames Andrew. In the Holy Spirit, there is no shame. > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 113 lines] > Without the LORD, your fantasies, which includes an imaginary > biological dad, are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Nothing imaginary about it. Andrew will just have to deal with that, and the fact that my relationship with my dad is exponentially better than his relationship with his own dad. >>> You are not this sinless Son. >> I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unhealthy dad/son relationship except when the Son is LORD Jesus > Christ. Finally, we get to the root of Andrew's pathology. In the absence of any gross physical impairment, psychopathology is almost always the result of poor or incomplete socialization. What we see in Andrew's behavior is typical for victims of childhood abuse; and this abuse, I suspect, Andrew is admitting as a cry for help. >>>> A person such as Andrew, who is >>>> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You have implied it. Wrong. Andrew has inferred it. >> Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy >> Spirit. > > Again, you are not the Holy Spirit. Correct. And I never claimed to be the Holy Spirit. >>> However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and >>> have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above. >> No. But this is clearly true of Andrew Chung. > > Your inability to maintain eye contact is telling. You see, dear readers, how the mention of Andrew's biological dad has dredged up this "eye contact" business again? >>>>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. >>>>> From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Again, you are still projecting. If it's psychobabble Andrew wants, he shall have it. Andrew is currently stuck in a positive feedback loop of my own creation. I created it so that Andrew would, by means of transference, condemn the parts of himself which I presented to him by acting as he acts. This he has done and continues to do. The current result of the feedback loop is the dredging up of a past with an abusive dad. I anticipated this. I suspect that this is why Andrew is unable to let go of the notion that famed hate-monger Fred Phelps is my dad; for Andrew Chung, Fred Phelps is, metaphorically, his dad. It is necessary for Andrew to continue to insist that Fred is my biological dad, because this gives Andrew a pathway for condemning his own abusive dad without fear of reprisals from same. Andrew's relationship with his dad is the reason for both his academic over-achievement and his inability to use it. Andrew's relationship with his dad is the reason for his over-the-top behavior on Usenet, including his own characterization of it as "walking on water". Andrew's relationship with his dad is the reason for his nearly 18,000 Usenet posts, and for his legalistic mindset. Andrew will likely label what I have written as "dark fantasy" or with some other pejorative; this is to be expected, as Andrew's denial and reaction formation run very, very deeply. I'm convinced that only with the help of a competent therapist, who deals in such pathology, will Andrew finally come to grips with this painful part of his life. >> With no source of knowledge to tap into since he >> blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble. > > No, simply observing you. See above. >>>>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's >>>>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Again, you are projecting. See above. >>> Retrospectively we now know why. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Your inability to maintain eye contact remains telling. See above for why this "eye contact" business has cropped up again. >> In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face >> the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the >> Spirit". > > Again, you are projecting. See above. >> One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with >> the Holy Spirit. > > The Holy Spirit is non-corporeal. There is no contact to be made. > > Those in the Holy Spirit know this. No, I'm finished reflecting Andrew's rigid "daddy-please-love-me" persona. See above for an explanation of Andrew's thinking and behavior. >> Another implication is that Andrew was led to the >> Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Actually, my height is above average. As stated above, Andrew's denial runs very deeply. >> Clearly, one of the three implications is the case. > > Your attempt to shift the focus from your identity is telling. Andrew's poor relationship with his own dad is palpable here. He desperately needs for me to be the biological son of Fred Phelps. This gives him yet another thing to despise about me, the object of his transference. In so doing, Andrew is able to hate and condemn his own dad from a safe distance, and without fear of reprisals. >>>>>> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will >>>>>> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Your feigned amusement is not feigned. I am quite tickled by Andrew's feeble attempt to reconcile to mutually exclusive statements. >> Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions: >> >> ~Fred Phelps is NOT my biological dad; > > Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., however is your biological dad. Wrong. But metaphorically, Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., is Andrew's dad. >> ~None of his children are my biological siblings; > > The biological children of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. are your > biological siblings. Wrong. But, apparently this "Fred Phelps" business is dredging up a great deal more pain for Andrew than I had anticipated. One wonders about Andrew's relationship with his own biological siblings. Clearly, Andrew sees himself as Mark W. Phelps, the son who had the courage to break away from his abusive dad, Fred Phelps. However, Andrew is terribly conflicted about his fantasy, and insists upon casting himself in the role of "dutiful, loyal son", all the while wishing he could summon up the courage to walk away from his own abusive dad. >> ~I have zero biological siblings; > > Yes, you are estranged from them as well Wrong. However, clearly Andrew is feeling the angst of some sort of estrangement from his own siblings, if he has any. If not, then the fantasy siblings which an only child will often create are likely the targets of Andrew's frustration. In other words, if Andrew had siblings, he would be the best and most loyal of them. >> ~Andrew Chung is wrong; > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. They remember asking you and getting a > non-response. Asked and answered in another post elsewhere on this group. Again, see above for an explanation of Andrew's inability to let go of this fantasy about Fred Phelps. >> ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit; > > There is no other explanation for how I know your identity. Clearly, Andrew is beginning to doubt himself. The plain, provable, undeniable, empirical fact is that Andrew does not know my identity. However, it is clear that his desire to know my identity is tied securely to his desire to know himself. The more he knows of me, the more of his angst he can transfer to me. The more he does that, the more hatred he can launch at himself. The issue here, of course, is one of safety for me. If Andrew ever did learn my identity, he would do his utmost to destroy me; for in Andrew's mind, I represent the worst of himself. >> ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case; > > It remains my choice to trust the Holy Spirit and accept HIS guidance > in everything I say, do and write. In other words, Andrew will continue to attack the self he has transfered onto me. >> ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric; > > It remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no face that > needs saving here. Of course not. This is because Andrew has transferred that "face" to me, and is intent upon destroying it. >> ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical; > > Indeed, it has been anticipated. In other words, Andrew is so intent upon destroying what he sees of himself in me, and in Fred Phelps, that his crusade to prove a connection between us will continue. >> ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face"; > > Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no > face that needs saving here. See above. >> ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some >> very important ways. > > Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily to remain a new > creature in HIM so that neither pride nor shame is a problem. See above. >>> This saddens me. >> Actually, it shames Andrew. > > In the Holy Spirit, there is no shame. However, in Andrew's childhood home, there was a great deal of shame. It is no wonder that Andrew retreats to this statement upon being confronted with his shame. Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] > > Nothing imaginary about it. It does not surpise me that in your imagination you have constructed an imaginary dad who is the polar opposite of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., your biological dad, whom you have described as someone that does not have any qualities in common with who you believe Jesus Christ to be. > Andrew will just have to deal with that, > and the fact that my relationship with my dad is exponentially better > than his relationship with his own dad. Indeed, such are the limits of the imagination... none ! ! ! Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you to unwittingly show even to the undiscerning that you have been fantasizing an imaginary dad to replace your biological one. > >>> You are not this sinless Son. > >> I am a son who has NEVER been at odds with his biological dad. Andrew [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > behavior is typical for victims of childhood abuse; and this abuse, I > suspect, Andrew is admitting as a cry for help. It does not surprise me that you believe your biological dad's use of the rod to discipline you was child abuse. What child does not think this during the discipline. Only thing is that apparently you did not grow up as others have to retrospectively realize it was necessary but instead you ran away from home to escape from receiving discipline. This has resulted in your being stuck in the false belief that your biological dad's disciplining you was child abuse. To think otherwise would cause you to lose your justification for running away from home. Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right. The latter two qualities means that HE is a disciplinarian. Your knowing this aspect about GOD though HIS written Word, the Holy Bible, which you know well through your biological dad has compelled you to remain distant from HIM just as you are distant from your biological dad. > >>>> A person such as Andrew, who is > >>>> trained to interpret such signs, ought to have a better grasp of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Wrong. Andrew has inferred it. Your claim that my rejecting you is blaspheming the Holy Spirit implies that you believe you are the Holy Spirit. > >> Andrew, on the other hand, has blasphemed the Holy > >> Spirit. > > > > Again, you are not the Holy Spirit. > > Correct. And I never claimed to be the Holy Spirit. See above. > >>> However, you have blasphemed the Holy Spirit multiple times now and > >>> have consequently had a loss of reading comprehension as noted above. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You see, dear readers, how the mention of Andrew's biological dad has > dredged up this "eye contact" business again? It remains a tell for those who are untruthful like you. > >>>>>> Fred Phelps is not my biological dad. > >>>>> From what you have written about him, it is understandable why you [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If it's psychobabble Andrew wants, he shall have it. Andrew is > currently stuck in a positive feedback loop of my own creation. Indeed, you are the source of your own projection. > I created it so that Andrew would, by means of transference, condemn the > parts of himself which I presented to him by acting as he acts. This he > has done and continues to do. It remains my choice to passively reflect back your projection as would a mirror. This is why you know nothing about my relationship with my dad. > The current result of the feedback loop is the dredging up of a past > with an abusive dad. I anticipated this. I suspect that this is why [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > the help of a competent therapist, who deals in such pathology, will > Andrew finally come to grips with this painful part of his life. Small problem with your fantasy, my biological dad is not a disciplinarian (he is not Christian). Instead, the discipline that I had needed came directly from my heavenly Father, who once chastened me so severely that I lost part of a finger and in another instance had me beaten by several demon-possessed police officers to the point of death. Looking back, had HE not disciplined me during those times of my life, I would have ended up inextricably tied up in sin and the ways of this world. > >> With no source of knowledge to tap into since he > >> blasphemed the Holy Spirit, Andrew now turns to psychobabble. > > > > No, simply observing you. > > See above. Please do. > >>>>>>> If you choose to repent as did all the folks of Nineveh in Jonah's > >>>>>>> time, perhaps GOD will change HIS mind about annihilating you for your [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > See above. Please do. > >>> Retrospectively we now know why. > >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > See above for why this "eye contact" business has cropped up again. See above for how your inability to maintain eye contact helps even the undiscerning know that you have been untruthful. > >> In his cowardice and hopelessness, Andrew cannot face > >> the implications of having declared that his error was discerned "in the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > See above. Please do. > >> One implication, of course, is that Andrew has no contact with > >> the Holy Spirit. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > No, I'm finished reflecting Andrew's rigid "daddy-please-love-me" > persona. See above for an explanation of Andrew's thinking and behavior. You are still projecting even more so now than ever. > >> Another implication is that Andrew was led to the > >> Phelps letter by God in order to show, once and for all, that Andrew has [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > As stated above, Andrew's denial runs very deeply. As if Yao Ming could suffer from a Napolean-complex much less be in denial about it. > >> Clearly, one of the three implications is the case. > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > transference. In so doing, Andrew is able to hate and condemn his own > dad from a safe distance, and without fear of reprisals. Your use of the words despise and hate reminds me of how you have publicly condemned your biological dad in the letter you have written above. In the Holy Spirit, I know that one of the reasons you have participated on usenet especially in alt.atheism is because there you have received much comfort in witnessing the derision and scorn that atheists have had towards accounts of how your dad allegedly mistreated you and your brother. What has kept you from openly revealing your identity is the fact that the rest of your biological family and their extended church family are very internet-savvy as borne out by how effectively they have used the internet to further their ministry. > >>>>>> Tragically however, the witness and conviction of the Holy Spirit will > >>>>>> continue to torment Andrew for the remainder of his life. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > is not feigned. I am quite tickled by Andrew's feeble attempt to > reconcile to mutually exclusive statements. It serves the purpose to inform others about what they are witnessing. > >> Here are the facts; these are not rhetorical expressions: > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wrong. But metaphorically, Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr., is Andrew's dad. Your friends in alt.atheism, who have been your source of comfort in every instance when your letter about Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. is posted surreptitiously by you onto usenet, react adversely to metaphors so that this will likely result in decreased ratings with your fan club. > >> ~None of his children are my biological siblings; > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > in the role of "dutiful, loyal son", all the while wishing he could > summon up the courage to walk away from his own abusive dad. Your friends at alt.atheism have enough trouble understanding the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ to the point of causing cognitive overload that this fanciful twist you are now introducing is likely going to cause a cerebrovascular accident or two or three. > >> ~I have zero biological siblings; > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > targets of Andrew's frustration. In other words, if Andrew had > siblings, he would be the best and most loyal of them. Such is the tangled web that untruthful people like MWPhelps weaves. > >> ~Andrew Chung is wrong; > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > above for an explanation of Andrew's inability to let go of this fantasy > about Fred Phelps. Their nature is to be skeptical. You are now a blip on their radars. No more cloaking for you. > >> ~Andrew Chung did not get his information from the Holy Spirit; > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > utmost to destroy me; for in Andrew's mind, I represent the worst of > himself. If you believe that your friends at alt.atheism are buying this, you have no explanation for why they doubt the veracity of the Holy Bible. > >> ~Andrew Chung cannot understand how this could possibly be the case; > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > In other words, Andrew will continue to attack the self he has > transfered onto me. It is interesting how you feel attacked by your own reflection. > >> ~Andrew Chung is trying to "save face" by reframing my words as rhetoric; > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Of course not. This is because Andrew has transferred that "face" to > me, and is intent upon destroying it. It is interesting how you feel threatened by your own reflection. > >> ~My denial of biological relationship with Fred Phelps is not rhetorical; > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > himself in me, and in Fred Phelps, that his crusade to prove a > connection between us will continue. Your own behavior has served as proof for your friends at alt.atheism. As for me, I do not need proof. In the Holy Spirit, I know who you are because GOD knows who you are. > >> ~Andrew Chung will not be allowed to "save face"; > > > > Again, it remains my choice to die to self daily so that there is no > > face that needs saving here. > > See above. Please do. > >> ~Andrew Chung must simply contend with the shame of being wrong in some > >> very important ways. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > See above. Please do. > >>> This saddens me. > >> Actually, it shames Andrew. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It is no wonder that Andrew retreats to this statement upon being > confronted with his shame. Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Sorry the truth has taken away your hope which resided in your friends in alt.atheism. They now know that your real motivation for hanging out with them is to steal their love while attempting to thwart any opportunities for them to know LORD Jesus Christ. A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having chest pains. I think it's my heart." The cardiologist says, "Okay. Take of your left shoe and let's have a look." The guy says, "What? Why my left shoe?" Cardiologist says, "Because that's where your heart is located." Guy says, "No it's not. My heart is in my chest." Cardiologist says, "Maybe for most people; but your heart is in your left foot." Guys says, "Are you kidding me? No, doc. My heart is in my chest, just like every other normally developed human being." Cardiologist says, "No. Not yours. You heart is in your left foot. In the Holy Spirit, I know this to be true." Guy says, "You're wrong, doc. My heart's not in my left foot. My heart's in my chest. I can feel it beating with my hand. In fact, I can see my chest respond to its movement. Check it out for yourself." Cardiologist says, "No need for me to check it out. In the Holy Spirit, I know that your heart is in your left foot. And you're a blasphemer, too." Guy says, "I'm a what? What in the world are you talking about? Are you really a cardiologist?" Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your questions are meaningless. In the Holy Spirit, I know that your heart is in your left foot. There is no other explanation for how I know that your heart is in your left foot." Guy says, "Look doc. I know you have some pretty advanced education, and I'm pretty sure that you were taught some pretty simple and reliable methods to determine whether my heart is in my chest or in my foot." Cardiologist says, "Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless. In the Holy Spirit, I know, unequivocally, assuredly, positively that your heart is in your foot." Guy says, "Alrighty then. You have a nice day doc. I'm going someplace where they actually use their brains." Guy leaves the cardiologist's office, and gets help at a nearby hospital emergency room. After he recovers, the guy wonders if the public should be protected from the cardiologist. In three words: Changing the subject. Back to the subject at hand: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?: Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. > A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having > chest pains. I think it's my heart." [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > emergency room. After he recovers, the guy wonders if the public should > be protected from the cardiologist. > In three words: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to remove all doubt in the minds of others that you are indeed Mark W. > Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. And here I thought Andrew was going to change the subject. Instead, he posts a statement which fits precisely the pattern of the cardiologist in the parable. It's just uncanny. Why, one might be tempted to wonder if Andrew *is* the cardiologist in the parable. >> A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having >> chest pains. I think it's my heart." [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> emergency room. After he recovers, the guy wonders if the public should >> be protected from the cardiologist. Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote: > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > **Back** to the subject at hand: **emphasis** added > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/32633d67a17447f6?: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And here I thought Andrew was going to change the subject. See **emphasis** > Instead, he posts a statement which fits precisely the pattern of the > cardiologist in the parable. It's just uncanny. It does not surprise me to see how quickly what you imagine becomes real to you. You created an imaginary dad who never disciplined you to replace your biological dad who often did. You created an imaginary family where you are an only child getting all the attention to replace your biological family where there were twelve other siblings competing for your parents' affection. You created an imaginery god which you have imagined to have given you all that you have imagined. > Why, one might be tempted to wonder if Andrew *is* the cardiologist in > the parable. Only if one believed the fiction you are attempting to pass off as the truth. Such is the hope of satan's minions such as yourself: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e? Know that holy fire from heaven is enroute to your location: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1348055d48784253? > > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote the following work of fiction in hopes of changing the subject: > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >> emergency room. After he recovers, the guy wonders if the public should > >> be protected from the cardiologist. Amusing and entertaining work of fiction by Mark W. Phelps, estranged son of Reverend Fred Phelps, Sr. that rivals his earlier fictional work concerning his biological dad as quoted in the OP: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/16c279ece5fbd098? Mark must think atheists are idiots who believe only what they want to believe. Are they ? > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > You created an imaginary dad who never disciplined you to replace your > biological dad who often did. Andrew is wrong, and it's tormenting him. > You created an imaginary family where you are an only child getting all > the attention to replace your biological family where there were twelve > other siblings competing for your parents' affection. Andrew is wrong, and it's tormenting him. > You created an imaginery god which you have imagined to have given you > all that you have imagined. Andrew is wrong, and it's tormenting him. >> Why, one might be tempted to wonder if Andrew *is* the cardiologist in >> the parable. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1348055d48784253? Uh huh. I'll be watching for that. And should anything befall me or my family, I'll know who to suspect: Andrew Chung. >>> Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote the following work of fiction in hopes of changing the subject: >>>> A guy walks into a cardiologist's office and says, "Doc, I'm having [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/16c279ece5fbd098? [yawn] I'm sure it is entertaining for Andrew, since he apparently sees himself in it. > Mark must think atheists are idiots who believe only what they want to > believe. > > Are they ? [yawn] Andrew's childish tirade now comes to a close. > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote: >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > You created an imaginery god which you have imagined to have given you > all that you have imagined. No, it's simpler than that. You. Are. Wrong. SignatureMark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -H. L. Mencken > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > No, it's simpler than that. Indeed: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/c66d29055ea66c5f? "He certainly has beguiled you, his atheist friends." May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our diabetes, depression, anxiety and panic so that we can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear neighbor Mark whom I love unconditionally. Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17). http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> > Demon MWPhelps(aka CoonSkin, CapMack, Conspiracy of Doves et al) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > "He certainly has beguiled you, his atheist friends." Oh this ought to be good. Explain why an atheist would need to "beguile" atheists. If the real Mark Phelps were to show up in alt.atheism, declaring he was an atheist, he'd be *welcomed. Get it Andy? We're atheists. For real. We *welcome new atheists showing up in our newsgroup. SignatureMark K. Bilbo ------------------------------------------------------------ Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems. -Scott (#1045) > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Ho |
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