Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / December 2006
Insulin side effects
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Lynn - 01 Dec 2006 12:03 GMT Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in?
Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual, but not hypo for me).
Lynn GD, 36wks
shoppa@trailing-edge.com - 01 Dec 2006 13:12 GMT > Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in? > > Yesterday was my first day on NPH, btw. Fbg was 78 this morning (unusual, > but not hypo for me). If your blood sugar had been running higher for an extended period, the drop to 78 might have triggered some hypo symptoms without numerically being a hypo. An early hypo symptom is the release of adrenaline which is a buzz/surge in energy and in fact some folks abuse adrenaline or insulin just to get this effect, see for example the section on "insulin abuse" at
http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
If you feel the buzz turning on, you might want to check your bg right then just to be really sure you aren't going hypo. NPH's peak is relatively mild but it's a good thing to keep tabs on your bg's especially when starting or changing doses. If you get up in the middle of the night for any reason you might want to do some bg checks then too.
One way to see if you just got a boost of adrenaline is to hold your hands out in front of you with your elbows bent, trying to keep them motionless, and see if there's any shaking or trembling going on.
Alternatively, just knowing that you were finally doing something that would really really help with your bg's may have given you a positive emotional buzz. When I've put off dealing with something for a long time and then I finally take care of it, there is some emotional/stress weight that is suddenly lifted.
78 is a pretty good place to end up, your docs must've known what they were doing when they gave you that starting dose :-).
Tim.
Lynn - 01 Dec 2006 23:44 GMT >> Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks >> in? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Tim. Actually, the buzz was last night, but my bg was also in the 70's so that could have been it. I checked the last 3 hours before bedtime without eating anything and the numbers were 73, 74, and 79. I wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to keep dropping before I went to sleep. I had every intention of checking during the night, as I am usually up at least once to go the bathroom, but I was so sleepy I couldn't make myself wake up enough to test. I remember thinking as I stumbled to the bathroom with my eyes still closed, I'm walking, so I must be ok. I'll make sure to test when I get that feeling again.
You definitely hit the nail on the head with the metal part. I have always been so resistance to doctors and medication. I was very reluctant to start the insulin, and frankly, felt like a failure. If I would only eat a little better, exercise a little more... The past 48 hours have been so incredible, though. I am still very limited on what I can eat, but I have some wiggle room now. I had started to feel trapped and extremely frustrated. Even better, my numbers have been wonderful - every one under 110 at 2 hours.
Lynn GD, 36wks
Ozgirl - 02 Dec 2006 01:24 GMT > Actually, the buzz was last night, but my bg was also in the 70's so > that could have been it. I checked the last 3 hours before bedtime
> without eating anything and the numbers were 73, 74, and 79. I
> wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to keep dropping before I
> went to sleep. I had every intention of checking during the night,
> as I am usually up at least once to go the bathroom, but I was so
> sleepy I couldn't make myself wake up enough to test. I remember
> thinking as I stumbled to the bathroom with my eyes still closed, I'm
> walking, so I must be ok. I'll make sure to test when I get that
> feeling again. > > You definitely hit the nail on the head with the metal part. I have > always been so resistance to doctors and medication. I was very
> reluctant to start the insulin, and frankly, felt like a failure.
Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing to ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's best for a child. We all aim for the best possible outcome to a pregnancy, if it takes insulin, caesareans, epidurals or any number of other things that we might not want to happen (but end up needing), then it is all worth it.
If
> I would only eat a little better, exercise a little more... The past
> 48 hours have been so incredible, though. I am still very limited on
> what I can eat, but I have some wiggle room now. I had started to
> feel trapped and extremely frustrated. Even better, my numbers have
> been wonderful - every one under 110 at 2 hours. Then you made the right decision, for both of you. Anything that stresses you, stresses the baby. Now you can sit back and enjoy things a bit for these last few weeks.
Lynn - 02 Dec 2006 12:52 GMT > Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing to > ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's best [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > that stresses you, stresses the baby. Now you can sit back > and enjoy things a bit for these last few weeks. Thanks for the encouragement, Jan. I hope things go well with the upcoming birth of your new grandbaby.
Lynn
Ozgirl - 02 Dec 2006 20:55 GMT >> Just my 2 cents worth here. There is absolutely nothing to >> ever feel a failure about when it comes to doing what's best [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Lynn Thanks Lynn, the baby shower is today. I was hoping for a cool change as there are about 30 people coming and it's at my daughter's house which is small but she wanted to let everyone see her new house ;) And yes it is cool, wet and thundery.
Ma¢k - 01 Dec 2006 19:41 GMT [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:03:02 -0500, "Lynn" <noemail@noemail.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken "Lynn" <noemail@noemail.com> into the madness of usenet:
>Does anyone else get a mild euphoric sensation when their insulin kicks in? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Lynn >GD, 36wks actually while on insulin you have to redefine your hypo ranges. 2 points under "usually" isn't anything to worry about. that euphoria was caused by a change in BG levels. be aware of it next time and consider testing your BG a few extra times to see if you continue to drop below that 78 or if you remain stable or come up a little.
What was the lowest Safe BG your Doctor said you could be?
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Lynn - 01 Dec 2006 23:58 GMT > [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:03:02 -0500, "Lynn" > <noemail@noemail.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > What was the lowest Safe BG your Doctor said you could be? Mack,
I've never asked the Docs how low is safe, and they've never said. I've reported numbers as low as 67 earlier in the pregnancy, though, and they didn't seem alarmed. I don't start to "feel" low until mid-60's. Euphoria has never been a symptom before, but I will keep that in mind.
I am checking much more often now - every 1 to 2 hours, until I get more familiar with the way the insulin affects me.
Lynn
Ma¢k - 04 Dec 2006 18:05 GMT [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:58:06 -0500, "Lynn" <noemail@noemail.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet:
>Mack, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Lynn mid to upper 60's though hypo are not dangerous by themselves unless they cause you to become unsteady on your feet. A rapid drop to 67 would be the biggest problem for you.
Going back, seeing the amount and type of insulin you are using, the late stage of the pregnancy etc, I doubt you will ever experience a hypo in the 20's to 30's which would put you at risk of passing out and all the other problems with severe hypos.
Your willingness to learn exactly how the insulin effects you is your best defense. Learn how this works for you.
Have you furnished the nursery?
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Lynn - 04 Dec 2006 23:44 GMT > [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 18:58:06 -0500, "Lynn" > <noemail@noemail.com> Giggled into the madness of usenet: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Have you furnished the nursery? So far, my blood sugar seems to be stable. I did get a 59 yesterday after a walk. I usually test before my walk to see where I am, but forgot. I felt fine, but it concerned me enough that I don't think I'll forget again. I haven't made any changes in my diet, but my 2 hour numbers are much better - 85 to 105 instead of 115 to 130. I did decide to split my daily dose up into 3 shots - Doc felt like it wasn't necessary, but that it was fine if it made me more comfortable. It makes me more *mentally* comfortable, but not *physically*... those shots don't feel so great. They gave me 100 syringes with a 29 gauge, 1/2 needle. I didn't know at the time that they came smaller and shorter, and I hate to toss the whole box. If I wasn't so close to the end of the pregnancy, I would get something like the prefill pens. Guess I'll just tough it out.
Nursery... :-) that's sweet of you to ask, thank you. We are actually in an tight situation now. Our 2 year old sleeps in our bedroom and hubby and I sleep on a futon in the living room. We were all sharing a room, but it works better this way. No nursery. The little one will sleep in a bassinet in the living room with us to make night time nursing easier. Things should be better by this spring, so I'm looking forward to decorating then.
Lynn GD, 36wks
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