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Fired for His Incompetence, Andrew Chung Plays the Race Card

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Yang, AthD (h.c) - 30 Nov 2006 15:49 GMT
Hey Earthquack, you were FIRED from your job because you're a moron,
not because you're Chinese.

Why are you so dishonest?

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
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The Bush 'economic' policy:        12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie:            -2884 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush f.ck up my country:           Worthless

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in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's bullshit:

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Nov 2006 15:56 GMT
> Hey Earthquack

Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

> , you were FIRED from your job because you're a moron

Actually, it was for insubordination in refusing my employer's request
that I falsify the medical records of my patients.

> , not because you're Chinese.

Correct.

> Why are you so dishonest?

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind,
and strength:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp

Fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/DreadNought

Prepare the way for HIM:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/07bc99eb33ac3ec3?

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Yang whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Kurt Gavin - 30 Nov 2006 16:28 GMT
>> Hey Earthquack
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Actually, it was for insubordination in refusing my employer's request
> that I falsify the medical records of my patients.

Falsifying medical records constitutes malpractice and fraud.

You are accusing the people who fired you of malpractice and fraud, correct?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Nov 2006 17:33 GMT
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Falsifying medical records constitutes malpractice and fraud.

No.

Falsifying medical records is simply being untruthful.

> You are accusing the people who fired you of malpractice and fraud, correct?

No.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully then and now.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Kurt whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Pastor Kutchie - 30 Nov 2006 17:37 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> No.

f.ck!

Remind me never to get ill in Florida.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Nov 2006 17:49 GMT
Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Remind me never to get ill in Florida.

Would remind you to find a Christian doctor if you believe that
untruthful doctors (ie non-Christian doctors) are malpracticing ones.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! !  Marana tha ! ! !

"Those who reject Christ Jesus as LORD have rejected the truth." --
Holy Spirit

Amen.

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Pastor Kutchie - 30 Nov 2006 18:01 GMT
> Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Would remind you to find a Christian doctor if you believe that
> untruthful doctors (ie non-Christian doctors) are malpracticing ones.

My doctor comes from Sri Lanka, so probably isn't a Christian. I
neither know nor care what she believes in as long as she adheres to
best medical practice, as is required by the law here in the civilised
UK.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Nov 2006 20:28 GMT
Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> My doctor comes from Sri Lanka, so probably isn't a Christian.

With GOD, it is possible that she is Christian.

> I neither know nor care what she believes in as long as she adheres to
> best medical practice, as is required by the law here in the civilised
> UK.

Without the truth, there will be only opinions about what is the best
medical practice.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !  Laus Deo ! !   Marana tha ! ! !

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Floyd whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Pastor Kutchie - 01 Dec 2006 00:03 GMT
> Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> Without the truth, there will be only opinions about what is the best
> medical practice.

There are many truths in medicine, and, just as in the rest of life,
the universe and everything, not one of them concerns supernatural
entities. Faith "healers" kill people on a regular basis for this very
reason.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2006 01:04 GMT
Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> There are many truths in medicine, and, just as in the rest of life

Not for those with discerning hearts:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
mwphelps@gmail.com - 01 Dec 2006 01:18 GMT
> Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Not for those with discerning hearts:

*Especially* for those with discerning hearts.  But this is impossible
for Andrew to understand, because he has committed the unpardonable sin
of blasheming the Holy Spirit.

> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/discern.asp
>
> May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
> to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
> excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
> neighbor Kutchie whom I love unconditionally.

Again, the blasphemer Andrew cannot tell the truth.  First, Sigmund
Freud was not a psychologist; he was a physician and a neurologist.
Second, Sigmund Freud's death included none of what Andrew has listed
above.  At 3:00 a.m. on September 23, 1939, Sigmund Freud died in
London from an overdose of morphine, purposely administered to him
(upon Freud's request) by his friend Max Schur.  There was no pain, no
anxiety, and no panic on the part of Dr. Freud when he died.

One would think that a person with the MD/PhD distinction might know
the effects of morphine upon the human brain.  If Andrew does know this

information, then he has demonstrated that he is a liar.  If he does
not know this information, then he has demonstrated that either (a) he
is incompetent, or (b) he is reaping a harvest of confusion from his
recent rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Such is the reward that blasphemers, such as Andrew, reap when the
utterly reject the Holy Spirit: they will employ lies, and they will
sink into despair and confusion.

Let no one steal your hope!  Especially not the blasphemer Andrew Chung.
Pastor Kutchie - 01 Dec 2006 07:23 GMT
> > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
> is incompetent, or (b) he is reaping a harvest of confusion from his
> recent rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Or, he isn't who he says he is.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2006 09:22 GMT
Convicted false teacher MWPhelps wrote:
> > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
> > > > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> *Especially* for those with discerning hearts.

You would be the furthest from knowing:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mwphelps@gmail.com - 01 Dec 2006 16:56 GMT
> Convicted false teacher MWPhelps wrote:
> > > Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> You would be the furthest from knowing:

Notice here that Andrew (in a desperate act of COWARDICE) has AGAIN
snipped away the portion of the post which demonstrates one of three
things: that he is (a) a liar, or (b) incompetent, or (c) reaping the
confusion due him because of his utter rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Here is that portion again (although Andrew has neither the courage nor
the integrity to address it, as already demonstrated):

<Second, Sigmund Freud's death included none of what Andrew has listed
above.  At 3:00 a.m. on September 23, 1939, Sigmund Freud died in
London from an overdose of morphine, purposely administered to him
(upon Freud's request) by his friend Max Schur.  There was no pain, no
anxiety, and no panic on the part of Dr. Freud when he died.

One would think that a person with the MD/PhD distinction might know
the effects of morphine upon the human brain.  If Andrew does know this
information, then he has demonstrated that he is a liar.  If he does
not know this information, then he has demonstrated that either (a) he
is incompetent, or (b) he is reaping a harvest of confusion from his
recent rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Such is the reward that blasphemers, such as Andrew, reap when they
utterly reject the Holy Spirit: they will employ lies, and they will
sink into despair and confusion.

Let no one steal your hope!  Especially not the blasphemer Andrew
Chung.>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mcs - 02 Dec 2006 05:28 GMT
pastor who?

>> Convicted neighbor Kutchie wrote:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> entities. Faith "healers" kill people on a regular basis for this very
> reason.
Kurt Gavin - 30 Nov 2006 21:09 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Falsifying medical records is simply being untruthful.

Bullshit.

Medical records are important in terms of what has been done to the patient
and what his medical problems are.

Falsified records, unless the patient has died, may lead to doing or not
doing something, that could result in harm.

You are as full of sh.t about professional matters as you are about your
religious fantasies.

You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical jesus.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Bullshit.

Your use of profanity simply shows that you remain convicted.

> Medical records are important in terms of what has been done to the patient
> and what his medical problems are.

Correct.

> Falsified records, unless the patient has died, may lead to doing or not
> doing something, that could result in harm.

Correct.

Until this harm happens, there is no malpractice.

Truth is simple.

Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
of intercessory prayers made by the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ
lifting up those whom have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May GOD continue to keep your heart beating (unless you unwisely choose
to curse HIM as did psychologist Sigmund Freud when he died in
excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
neighbor Cm whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
mwphelps@gmail.com - 01 Dec 2006 01:27 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Until this harm happens, there is no malpractice.

Notice, dear readers, how this works for Andrew Chung: ethical code
violations are irrelevant unless "malpractice" occurs.  In other words,
it's only unethical if it's caught.

> Truth is simple.

And yet Andrew cannot grasp the concept of medical ethics.

> Your embarrassing yourself is an adverse reaction to the awesome power
> of intercessory prayers made by the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> excruciating pain, overwhelming anxiety, and teeth gnashing panic) dear
> neighbor Cm whom I love unconditionally.

Again, the blasphemer Andrew cannot tell the truth.  First, Sigmund
Freud was not a psychologist; he was a physician and a neurologist.
Second, Sigmund Freud's death included none of what Andrew has listed
above.  At 3:00 a.m. on September 23, 1939, Sigmund Freud died in
London from an overdose of morphine, purposely administered to him
(upon Freud's request) by his friend Max Schur.  There was no pain, no
anxiety, and no panic on the part of Dr. Freud when he died.

One would think that a person with the MD/PhD distinction might know
the effects of morphine upon the human brain.  If Andrew does know this

information, then he has demonstrated that he is a liar.  If he does
not know this information, then he has demonstrated that either (a) he
is incompetent, or (b) he is reaping a harvest of confusion from his
recent rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Such is the reward that blasphemers, such as Andrew, reap when the
utterly reject the Holy Spirit: they will employ lies, and they will
sink into despair and confusion.

Let no one steal your hope!  Especially not the blasphemer Andrew Chung.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2006 09:22 GMT
Convicted false teacher MWPhelps wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> Notice, dear readers, how this works for Andrew Chung: ethical code
> violations are irrelevant unless "malpractice" occurs.

Accusing someone of malpractice when none has taken place is bearing
false witness.

Being false is something you have a demonstrated penchant for doing:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mwphelps@gmail.com - 01 Dec 2006 16:58 GMT
> Convicted false teacher MWPhelps wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

As mentioned earlier: as far as Andrew Chung is concerned, ethical code
violations are irrelevant unless "malpractice" occurs.

Notice here that Andrew (in a desperate act of COWARDICE) has AGAIN
snipped away the portion of the post which demonstrates one of three
things: that he is (a) a liar, or (b) incompetent, or (c) reaping the
confusion due him because of his utter rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Here is that portion again (although Andrew has neither the courage nor
the integrity to address it, as already demonstrated):

<Second, Sigmund Freud's death included none of what Andrew has listed
above.  At 3:00 a.m. on September 23, 1939, Sigmund Freud died in
London from an overdose of morphine, purposely administered to him
(upon Freud's request) by his friend Max Schur.  There was no pain, no
anxiety, and no panic on the part of Dr. Freud when he died.

One would think that a person with the MD/PhD distinction might know
the effects of morphine upon the human brain.  If Andrew does know this
information, then he has demonstrated that he is a liar.  If he does
not know this information, then he has demonstrated that either (a) he
is incompetent, or (b) he is reaping a harvest of confusion from his
recent rejection of the Holy Spirit.

Such is the reward that blasphemers, such as Andrew, reap when they
utterly reject the Holy Spirit: they will employ lies, and they will
sink into despair and confusion.

Let no one steal your hope!  Especially not the blasphemer Andrew
Chung.>
mwphelps@gmail.com - 01 Dec 2006 17:05 GMT
> Convicted false teacher MWPhelps wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> Being false is something you have a demonstrated penchant for doing:

Notice also, dear readers, that Andrew's so-called "unconditional love"
has apparently been withdrawn, as have his "prayers".  This has been
the case for some time now.  Yet, Andrew consistently insists that
"unconditional love, even for one's enemies" is a mark of those who are
brethren of Christ.  Thus, once again, by his own words Andrew
highlights his own hypocrisy and further condemns himself.

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

<link left intact, since it further documents Andrew Chung's false
teachings and blasphemy>
Stephen Knight - 02 Dec 2006 04:27 GMT
>> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

  I see I'm first on your stupid website. Again, you have snipped
what I said and inserted superstitious idiocy.

  On 26 Oct 2006 16:56:46 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<love12@thetruth.com> wrote:

snip

>Life on planet Earth is a "blink of an eye" compared to the rest of
>eternity.

  Here's the post you snipped in the dishonest way of all christians.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  YES! Let's go there!

  A billion, trillion gazillion years isn't a nanosecond in your
loving gods torture chamber for not loving it's pathetic a.s for being
the worst monster conceivable.

  He's saying 'Love me. I am perfect'. If you don't, it's gas chamber
time....; forever.

  Dung.... I wouldn't go with the moral thing. Your superstition
doesn't even have common sense morals. Dogs that lick their balls are
superior to christian morals.

  Please, don't respond.

  Let me flame you without hearing your Puppet reply. You know...
Masturbating a scripture sh.t thing so your followers will suck your
cock.

  Which brings me to something off topic. Considering your mental
condition and inability to respond to normal human contact, does your
wife suck your cock?   I know, this may seem personal but sexual
representation and religion are very close. Do you think of Jeebus
during intercourse or when you Spank the Monkey? You know.. make one
eyed Pete barf?

  I'm being a scientist here. I'm forming a hypothesis. I think, and
have gathered tons of posts from a.a., that you guys would rather make
love to Jeebus than your wife or girlfriend or mistress.

  So, admit it. Region is better than sex.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
  You're an ignorant fuckwit but I don't hate you as much as you hate
me. You operate from programming. I operate from being a person.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Eudaemonic Plague - 02 Dec 2006 10:43 GMT
> Convicted false ...Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
You're a heartless, cruel, lying bastard, Chung.  But I bet you've got a
cute a.shole...such as it might be.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Dec 2006 14:37 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >  False teacher MWPhelps wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> You're a heartless, cruel, lying bastard, Chung.

Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
mwphelps@gmail.com - 02 Dec 2006 19:13 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >  False teacher MWPhelps wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you are lost:

Indeed.  As Andrew did just the other day, here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6bb49cbcd5d75f10?hl=en&

No more need be written here, since Andrew's own words convict him.
Smelly Hosiery - 09 Dec 2006 13:56 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> False teacher MWPhelps wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Andrew <><

Now you're into medical research quackery....heart disease and diabetes.

"you have a heart.....I have none"
Kurt Gavin - 01 Dec 2006 01:39 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Stephen Knight - 01 Dec 2006 04:39 GMT
  Convicted?

  What does that mean, Dung? Is that worse than a 666 or lost or
vanquished?

  How many more of these 'judgment words are you going to use?

  I know you (ha ha) 'say' you don't judge, and all the mindless
zombies that suck your dick believe you don't (ha ha).

  The problem is, everything you gibber to atheists is a judgment.
You think you're god. You act and say exactly what the christian god
would say.......... Nothing.

Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2006 09:23 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>    Convicted?

Yes, you have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Steve O - 01 Dec 2006 13:56 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Awww!
I didn't make the list.
What do I need to do to get on it?
Blaspheme?

Signature

Steve O
a.a. 2240
"Faith doesn't move mountains- it levels buildings"

Al Klein - 01 Dec 2006 23:22 GMT
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>What do I need to do to get on it?
>Blaspheme?

Blaspheme against the physical manifestation of God currently known as
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD.  Blaspheming against God under that name
doesn't bother Andrew nearly as much as blaspheming against Andrew's
own name.
Signature

rukbat at optonline dot net
Nothing so completely baffles one who is full of trick and duplicity
himself, than straightforward and simple integrity in another.
- Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832)
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Dec 2006 03:07 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I didn't make the list.
> What do I need to do to get on it?

Cut yourself on the sword that is coming out of the mouth of LORD Jesus
Christ.

> Blaspheme?

That would be the unwise way of being removed from the prayer list as
has happened to MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin)

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor Steve whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
mwphelps@gmail.com - 02 Dec 2006 03:25 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> That would be the unwise way of being removed from the prayer list as
> has happened to MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin)

Here, Andrew again asserts that I am "CoonSkin".  This is due to
Andrew's having taken offense at being rebuked through me for
name-calling. Because I was the instrument of that rebuke, Andrew
employs his sinful mind and falsely asserts that I am the person who
was the target of his venom.  I am not "CoonSkin".  Had Andrew not
blasphemed the Holy Spirit, he would have known this.

What is worse is that Andrew KNOWS that I am not "CoonSkin", and yet he
chooses to maintain this falsehood.

As it is, Andrew's own words continue to convict him as a blasphemer, a
false prophet, and just plain untruthful.
mwphelps@gmail.com - 02 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> That would be the unwise way of being removed from the prayer list as
> has happened to MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin)

So much for "As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know
by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17)."

Andrew's own words mark him as NOT being one of the elect.
Steve O - 02 Dec 2006 07:32 GMT
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Cut yourself on the sword that is coming out of the mouth of LORD Jesus
> Christ.

How long have you been having hallucinations about swords coming out of
people's mouths?
How on earth, Andrew, can I cut myself on some stupid imaginary sword that
your particular deslusional beliefs have created?

>> Blaspheme?
>
> That would be the unwise way of being removed from the prayer list as
> has happened to MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin)

You're threatening to remove an atheist from a prayer list, and you see that
as some kind of threat?
You really are final proof, Andrew, that religion is for the feeble minded.

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> May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
> can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor Steve whom I love
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> (Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Dec 2006 08:11 GMT
> Andrew,, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> How long have you been having hallucinations about swords coming out of
> people's mouths?

Your knowing that LORD Jesus Christ is a living flesh&blood person is
progress.

> How on earth, Andrew, can I cut myself on some stupid imaginary sword that
> your particular deslusional beliefs have created?

You can only do what GOD, Creator of heaven and earth, gives you the
ability to do.

> >> Blaspheme?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> You're threatening to remove an atheist from a prayer list, and you see that
> as some kind of threat?

Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin) is reacting to this as a
threat:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/97f270f8b1d7aa61?

> You really are final proof, Andrew, that religion is for the feeble minded.

Thankfully, I am not religious.

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear neighbor Steve whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
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Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
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Eudaemonic Plague - 02 Dec 2006 10:50 GMT
[snip]
Thankfully, I am not religious.

Right.  Pull the other one, it has got bells on it.
mwphelps@gmail.com - 02 Dec 2006 17:28 GMT
> > Andrew,, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin) is reacting to this as a
> threat:

Were it not so tragic, Andrew's deterioration would be funny.  However,
it is tragic that Andrew can no longer control his compulsion to bear
false witness and blaspheme.  Andrew knows full well that I am neither
"CoonSkin" nor an atheist.  He also knows that I am not a false
teacher, but he has chosen to label me as such because I have been used
as a conduit for God's rebuke upon Andrew's life.

Yet, Satan compels Andrew to write these lies because his (Andrew's)
pride has been wounded by the Spirit's rebukes, given through me.
Satan is incredibly prideful, and one who has given their life over to
Satan --as Andrew has done-- cannot help but react when their own pride
has been bruised.

In addition to the rebukes, the Spirit leads me to refuse to
acknowledge Andrew when he responds to me or refers to me.  This,
Andrew's pride cannot bear.  He flails and screams, ineffectually
slinging accusations and epithets.  None of these has any impact upon
me, a child of the Living God, as I know that my name is written on His
hand and my very life is in Him.  Indeed, the weilding of unfounded
epithets --especially those which fly in the face of the evidence-- is
a tactic of Satan and his minions such as Andrew Chung.

The uncomplicated fact that Andrew KNOWS that ALL of his accusations
are false, and yet he makes them anyway, is irrefutable proof of
Andrew's lost and desperate condition.  There is no more which need be
written, for Andrew's own words testify against him.

Andrew Chung is vanquished by Jesus Christ, and will remain so!

<snip remainder of pagan Andrew's irrelevant babblings>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 02 Dec 2006 18:07 GMT
Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack, et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>
> Were it not so tragic

Blessing others is not tragic.

You, on the other hand, are most assuredly, without doubt, tragic:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mwphelps@gmail.com - 02 Dec 2006 18:52 GMT
Blasphemer Andrew B. Chung incoherently blathered:
> Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack, et al) wrote:

Andrew's tragic disintegration into paranoid despair continues.  Such
is the power of the Holy Spirit's rebuke upon those, such as Andrew,
who blaspheme Him.

There is no more which need be written, for Andrew's own words testify
against him, and the power of the Holy Spirit is evident in Andrew's
undoing.

Andrew Chung is vanquished by Jesus Christ, and will remain so!

<snip remainder of pagan Andrew's irrelevant babblings>
Eudaemonic Plague - 02 Dec 2006 10:48 GMT
>>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> How on earth, Andrew, can I cut myself on some stupid imaginary sword that
> your particular deslusional beliefs have created?

Oh, dear.  My oh my.....Chung, the silly xian fuckwit, dreaming silly
dreams.  You're not interesting enough, I'm going to go to bed now.
Prey for me, chung, my boy.
Bob - 02 Dec 2006 23:07 GMT
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> How on earth, Andrew, can I cut myself on some stupid imaginary sword that
> your particular deslusional beliefs have created?

Must've eaten the brown acid.

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guy - 01 Dec 2006 21:26 GMT
>   Convicted?
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Warlord Steve
>BAAWA

I hope the christian baiters are correct. It will be hell if you are
wrong.  No, I am not a christian  I get tired of the baiting game.
It is an ignorant endeavor.  We damn well better learn to be
tolerant in the shrinking world.  We will have to be tolerant to get
along or  we all lose.    
Will, T2 - 01 Dec 2006 21:44 GMT
> I hope the christian baiters are correct. It will be hell if you are
> wrong.  No, I am not a christian  I get tired of the baiting game.
> It is an ignorant endeavor.  We damn well better learn to be
> tolerant in the shrinking world.  We will have to be tolerant to get
> along or  we all lose.

Hi Guy,

It is great to see you posting again. We really missed you!

Will, T2
Alan S - 01 Dec 2006 23:22 GMT
>I hope the christian baiters are correct. It will be hell if you are
>wrong.  No, I am not a christian  I get tired of the baiting game.
>It is an ignorant endeavor.  We damn well better learn to be
>tolerant in the shrinking world.  We will have to be tolerant to get
>along or  we all lose.    

Welcome back, even if it had to be in a C*ung thread. We
were worried about you.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 01 Dec 2006 23:31 GMT
Great to see you posting again Guy. I hope all is well with you and
you're feeling a bit better.

--
Cheri

guy wrote in message
<45719b28.14262765@news.consolidated.net>...
>I hope the christian baiters are correct. It will be hell if you are
>wrong.  No, I am not a christian  I get tired of the baiting game.
>It is an ignorant endeavor.  We damn well better learn to be
>tolerant in the shrinking world.  We will have to be tolerant to get
>along or  we all lose.
guy - 02 Dec 2006 00:13 GMT
>Great to see you posting again Guy. I hope all is well with you and
>you're feeling a bit better.

Thanks Cheri,I am still peeking once and a while.   I
just found out how stupid docs are in some
areas, but the still collect obscene fees.

I still have severe problems but hopeful.
I am pretty old.

Had a shock when my GP's nurse
died.  She was a long term diabetic
but was only n her mid forties.

She told her husband she was taking a nap.
He went to check later and she was dead..

This should remind us that diabetes does
kill even with good care.  She had been on a
pump and recently changed, I did not have
a chance to discuss her condition recent;y.

It was a shock that brought me back to reality.

I expect to not be here long.  I have lost so many
peers.  and my phone list gets shorter each year.

We need to act like grown intelligent people.  We
do have a fatal disease that also can cause so much
suffering.    

I do wish to thank the many that have
helped and indulged me   You know who
you are.

I do not fell like posting much.   A few here can
cause problems if you offend them.  

Thank you for being nice to me,  even if I knock
some books. I will mostly peek.
                                         Guy
Cheri - 02 Dec 2006 00:51 GMT
I'm sorry to hear about the nurses death Guy. It is always a shock,
especially when you know somebody, and know their medical condition and
being a young woman as well. It brings it home in a hurry that we should
at least try to be civil to each other. You've never been anything but
kind to me Guy, and even when we're "joshin" each other over the books,
I so much enjoy your posts. I think they're full of wisdom, advice based
on life experiences, and a pretty good joke here and there as well. I
hope to see many more of your posts for a very long time.

--
Cheri

>I still have severe problems but hopeful.
>I am pretty old.
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Alan S - 02 Dec 2006 01:43 GMT
>>Great to see you posting again Guy. I hope all is well with you and
>>you're feeling a bit better.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>some books. I will mostly peek.
>                                          Guy

I don't always understand you, mate - but I'm really pleased
to see you again. Sorry to hear about your GP's nurse; a
lesson there for all of us.

Although, when I go - that's how I'd like to go. Having a
nap.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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W - 30 Nov 2006 22:20 GMT
>You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical jesus.

I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
huge Jesus, would be the one with a credibility problem. Especially if
they're found to be using childish tactics like, fowl/insolent
speech, and demoting him from proper noun status by using a lower case
j. Doesn't that seem a little silly?
Peter Barber - 01 Dec 2006 00:33 GMT
> >You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical jesus.
>
> I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
> be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
> huge Jesus, would be the one with a credibility problem.

No. The person claiming something's existence has to provide the
evidence to support that claim.

> Especially if
> they're found to be using childish tactics like, fowl/insolent
> speech, and demoting him from proper noun status by using a lower case
> j. Doesn't that seem a little silly?

In that case so does referring to Jesus as "something". You've just
made lower-case jesus cry, you know!
Kurt Gavin - 01 Dec 2006 00:49 GMT
>>You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical
>>jesus.
>
> I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
> be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
> huge Jesus,

Do you believe in Zeus, or the other gods of the pantheon that preceeded the
ridiculous jesus myth?

It is you who has a credibiltiy problem, for obvious reasons.
W - 01 Dec 2006 02:04 GMT
>Do you believe in Zeus, or the other gods of the pantheon: No, of course not.
>ridiculous jesus myth?: My first proof is the hostility against him. 2000 years and people hate him with unmatched intensity.

>It is you who has a credibiltiy [sic] problem, for obvious reasons. : I define credible as, one who is authoritive and honest. I'm honest and somewhat knowledgeable, what did I miss? If you will, please tell me what turned you off Jesus, you must have examined it a little.

So my childish accusation goes unchallenged?
Al Klein - 01 Dec 2006 23:14 GMT
>>Do you believe in Zeus, or the other gods of the pantheon: No, of course not.
>>ridiculous jesus myth?: My first proof is the hostility against him. 2000 years and people hate him with unmatched intensity.
>
>>It is you who has a credibiltiy [sic] problem, for obvious reasons. : I define credible as, one who is authoritive and honest. I'm honest and somewhat knowledgeable, what did I miss? If you will, please tell me what turned you off Jesus, you must have examined it a little.
>
>So my childish accusation goes unchallenged?

No, you still have to produce objective evidence that "Jesus" was
anything more than a figment of Saul's imagination, and that your god
is more than a figment of yours.
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W - 02 Dec 2006 21:33 GMT
Al Klein

Congress shall make know law respecting the establishment of religion,
ore prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ore abridging the freedom of
speech, ore of the press; of  the write of the people peaceably too
assemble, and two petition the Government four a redress of grievances.

Can ewe interpret four me what  the First Amendment reely says$ Notice
the words wall, separation, church, and state are nowhere to be found.
The separation of church and state is a distortion of the writers
intent. Can the press barge into my house any time they want. Dew ewe
knead the original authors$ Can you tell me what I am saying to you
now? What if their is a typo; ewe can still understand and can still
convey what eye reely mean to someone else$  Nothing has ever been
written that didn't need to be interpreted. Some people have a better
understanding, and can use their own words to help explain. Do you
disagree with my interpretation of  Mat 5:22 tell me in words so I can
interpret what you really said. You know as well as I do that saying
the word fool doesn't mean he was calling them a fool.

Help me understand the following. (Pay close attention to where he asks
for guidance, and again.)

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation.

Acts 8:30-35
And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,
and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? And he said, How can I,
except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would
come up and sit with him. The place of the scripture which he read was
this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb
before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his
judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his
life is taken from the earth. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said,
I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some
other man? Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same
scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Isiaih, written in 700 BC, never mentioned Jesus,  but he mentioned
Jesus a lot. (Isaiah 7:11-14)( Isaiah 53)

"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife,
brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26

John 8:43-45
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my
word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And
because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Al Klein

No, you still have to produce objective evidence that "Jesus" was
anything more than a figment of Saul's imagination, and that your god
is more than a figment of yours.

Sorry, I don't understand which question you are answering. Maybe a
third person will help me understand you. I never agreed any of that,
but does this count? My first proof is the hostility against him. Since
you agree Saul is reel person, his change of heart will be my second.
If you really do want proof  the book "The Case For Christ" by Lee
Strobel is exactly what you're looking for.

http://www.leestrobel.com/
http://www.josh.org/download/pdf/Arguments_for_Gods_Existence.pdf
Al Klein - 02 Dec 2006 22:59 GMT
>Congress shall make know law respecting the establishment of religion,
>ore prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ore abridging the freedom of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Can ewe interpret four me what  the First Amendment reely says$ Notice
>the words wall, separation, church, and state are nowhere to be found.

To make it simple, it says "Congress shall make no laws about
religion."

>The separation of church and state is a distortion of the writers
>intent.

It's a distortion BY ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS of the founding
fathers' intent - which is meaningless.  How can one distort one's own
intent?  (The Constitution wasn't written by committee.)

>Help me understand the following. (Pay close attention to where he asks
>for guidance, and again.)

The Bible was written, rewritten, edited and reedited many, many
times.  What the original intent was is lost to antiquity.

The Bible we currently have was intended to be what Helena wanted - a
single, all-encompassing religion, with everyone being forced to
believe what she believed.  Plus or minus a few hundred
mistranslations.
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W - 05 Dec 2006 23:53 GMT
Al

So you are going to quit hiding behind that "can't interpret"
stuff. T/F

>To make it simple, it says "Congress shall make no laws about
>religion."

They put  the words  respecting, and establishment for decoration. T/F
Free exercise means Los "Angels" can't have crosses in it's
seal. T/F

>It's a distortion BY ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS of the founding
>fathers' intent - which is meaningless.  How can one distort one's own
>intent?  (The Constitution wasn't written by committee.)

The constitution was written at the constitutional convention by
committee. T/F
It is a distortion. T/F
(Jefferson?) coined the phrase in a private letter to the (Danbury?)
Baptists. T/F
Jefferson was telling a preacher to take heart, the gov't can't
meddle in your affairs. T/F
Christians are forbidden from gov't. T/F
Christian officials can govern according to their beliefs. T/F

>Help me understand the following. (Pay close attention to where he asks
>for guidance, and again.)

You dodged it. T/F
That's a cop-out. T/F
If monkeys typed it you could find what I was referring to. T/F

>The Bible was written, rewritten, edited and reedited many, many
>times.  What the original intent was is lost to antiquity.

You didn't square that with the Dead Sea Scrolls. T/F
You examined proof of significant corruption. T/F

The Bible we currently have was intended to be what Helena wanted - a
single, all-encompassing religion, with everyone being forced to
believe what she believed.  Plus or minus a few hundred
mistranslations.

Atheism is a religion. T/F
You want everybody to be Atheists. T/F
Unity is necessary. T/F
Kingdom divided against it self can stand. T/F
Earth is a kingdom. T/F
You have a right to my opinion. T
You have a right to your opinion. T/F
Hitler has a right to his opinion. T/F

>shout down every utterance."

You do similarly by dismissing peoples arguments. T/F
Eudaemonic Plague - 02 Dec 2006 10:51 GMT
>>You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical jesus.
>
> I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
> be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
> huge Jesus, would be the one with a credibility problem. Especially if
> they're found to be using childish tactics like, fowl

You bird-brain.

> /insolent
> speech, and demoting him from proper noun status by using a lower case
> j. Doesn't that seem a little silly?

Naw, just annoying.....to?
W - 02 Dec 2006 21:47 GMT
> >>You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical jesus.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Naw, just annoying.....to?

Why the ellipses, I need help with the inturpretation.
Ace Berserker - 03 Dec 2006 07:43 GMT
> I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
> be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
> huge Jesus, would be the one with a credibility problem. Especially if
> they're found to be using childish tactics like, fowl/insolent
> speech, and demoting him from proper noun status by using a lower case
> j. Doesn't that seem a little silly?

"Fowl" speech?!

Is that like taking "cheep" shots?
W - 04 Dec 2006 21:31 GMT
> > I don't know about Chung's competence, but my first thought would
> > be that someone recklessly dismissing, even existence of something as
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Is that like taking "cheep" shots?

I am embarrassed Your comment was clever.
Jeff - 30 Nov 2006 22:26 GMT
>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Medical records are important in terms of what has been done to the
> patient and what his medical problems are.

Even if the patient has died, medical records can be important. For example,
it is part of the family's medical history and may have health implications
for other family members and the general public.

Needless to say, medical records of dead people can have legal implications.

> Falsified records, unless the patient has died, may lead to doing or not
> doing something, that could result in harm.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical
> jesus.
Dianne - 30 Nov 2006 23:00 GMT
I actually work in the medical profession in Canada.  Although I am NOT a
doctor, I can tell you there here, as well as in the USA, a medical record
is considered a legal document and therefore, falsifying it IS considered
fraud.  I'm not sure that it's considered malpractice though.

Dianne

>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>> You are an incompetent idiot - that's why you grovel to your mythical
>> jesus.
Al Klein - 01 Dec 2006 23:16 GMT
>I actually work in the medical profession in Canada.  Although I am NOT a
>doctor, I can tell you there here, as well as in the USA, a medical record
>is considered a legal document and therefore, falsifying it IS considered
>fraud.  I'm not sure that it's considered malpractice though.

It's not, but it could be used to cover malpractice, and it's
certainly a red flag for someone to look into malpractice if they find
altered records.
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Kurt Gavin - 01 Dec 2006 00:51 GMT
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> Needless to say, medical records of dead people can have legal
> implications.

If I remember right, you're an MD, yourself.

Do you think falsifying medical records constitutes malpractice and / or
fraud?
Big Dave - 30 Nov 2006 23:54 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully then and now.

"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
(Jesus) Mat 5:22

"You fools!" (Jesus) Luke 11:40
"You blind fools!" (Jesus) Mat 23:17
"How foolish you are" (Jesus) Luke 24:25

"But God said to him, 'You fool!' " (Jesus) Luke 12:20

"You foolish Galatians!" (St. Paul) Galatians 3:1
"You foolish man" James 2:20
W - 01 Dec 2006 02:07 GMT
>"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
>(Jesus) Mat 5:22

Good try Dave, but you're looking at the letter of the word and not
the point  it is trying to get across. It is possible say certain words
and have them mean the opposite of what was said. (Sarcasm) In this
case he was saying don't put people down. This morning I said to my
mom, that was dumb to vacuum the other day. (Because she new she would
be decorating and getting tinsel all over.) I could have said, you are
dumb for...She would know I wasn't trying to hurt her. It can get
pretty hairy but, saying you fool, doesn't mean you fool. Thanks for
listening my very good friend, I hate you. See?

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. (Exodus 20:16)
And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the
devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert
the right ways of the Lord? (Acts 13:10)
For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of
sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ. (2
Corinthians 2:17)
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth
him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last
day. (John 12:48)
Big Dave - 01 Dec 2006 03:05 GMT
> >"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
>>(Jesus) Mat 5:22
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last
> day. (John 12:48)

 a.. John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time."
 b.. Exodus 33:20 "Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see
me, and live."
 c.. I John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 01 Dec 2006 03:21 GMT
> > >"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
> >>(Jesus) Mat 5:22
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> me, and live."
>   c.. I John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time."

"Because you know ME, you now know My Father who sent ME." -- LORD
Jesus Christ

Amen !

Laus Deo ! !

Marana tha ! ! !

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more, dear Dave whom I love
unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
W - 01 Dec 2006 17:39 GMT
Dave

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed
about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing
accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in
the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that
doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke
him; and if he repent, forgive him. Them that sin rebuke before all,
that others also may fear. Preach the word; be instant in season, out
of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but
after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having
itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and
shall be turned unto fables. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke
them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to
Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender
strifes. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle
unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that
oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the
acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of
the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

John 12:48, Acts 13:10, Galatians 1:7, Exodus 20:16, 2 Corinthians
2:17, John 1:18, John 14:9, 3 John 1:11, Jude 1:9, Luke 17:3, 1 Timothy
5:20, 2 Timothy 4:2-4, Titus 1:13-14, 2 Timothy 2:23-26
jls - 02 Dec 2006 23:18 GMT
[...]
>   a.. John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time."
>   b.. Exodus 33:20 "Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see
> me, and live."
>   c.. I John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time."

Not true.  He showed his a.s to Moses.  See the Old Testament and your
item "b" for details.
W - 05 Dec 2006 23:56 GMT
>  [...]
> >   a.. John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time."
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Not true.  He showed his a.s to Moses.  See the Old Testament and your
> item "b" for details.

jls

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Exodus 33:18-23
And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. And he said, I will
make all my goodness pass before thee,... And he said, Thou canst not
see my     "face:"      for there shall no man see me, and
live....And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by,...and
will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: And I will take away mine
hand, and thou shalt see my      "back parts:"       but my
"face shall not be seen."
Exodus 34:6
And the Lord passed by before him,...

am*phi*bol*o*gy  An ambiguous phrase or sentence.

am*big*u*ous 2. An expression or statement that can be variously
interpreted.

Acts 13:10
And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the
devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert
the right ways of the Lord?

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Al Klein - 01 Dec 2006 23:18 GMT
>>"But anyone who says 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
>>(Jesus) Mat 5:22
>
>Good try Dave, but you're looking at the letter of the word

Which is all we have since, not only is the author not around to
explain what he meant, we don't even know who the author was.
Attempting to tell others what the Bible "really" means is dishonesty
of the highest order.
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W - 01 Dec 2006 23:44 GMT
Al Klein

I'll try to get back to you Monday.
Eudaemonic Plague - 02 Dec 2006 10:59 GMT
>>http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>>
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> "You foolish Galatians!" (St. Paul) Galatians 3:1
> "You foolish man" James 2:20

D'oh!  I, Earl Sinclair, have this to say.......I am a very stupid
dinosaur, and my name is Chung.
jls - 02 Dec 2006 23:12 GMT
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Falsifying medical records is simply being untruthful.

Well, not exactly.  Falsifying medical records is, among other things,
dishonest.  If it is done to avoid tort liability or to embellish
medical records to charge for services not rendered, it is fraud.

Otherwise, why would your employer require you to falsify medical
records?  No one would ask you to alter records without some corrupt
motive.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Dec 2006 00:40 GMT
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Well, not exactly.

Exactly for those who choose to refrain from judging others per the
kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2)

May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love others a little bit more and HIM a lot more, dear neighbor jls
whom I love unconditionally.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
mwphelps@gmail.com - 04 Dec 2006 03:57 GMT
Andrew B. Chung, servant of the accuser of the Brethren, wrote:

> Exactly for those who choose to refrain from judging others per the
> kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2)

Our Lord's words in Matthew 7:1-2 do not constitute a "suggestion".
Christ Jesus gave a direct command there, and continues to give that
command to those with ears to hear.

Praise God for allowing Andrew to reveal the depth of his disdain, even
hatred, for the words of Christ, thus showing all whose servant he
really is.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Dec 2006 04:11 GMT
Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Exactly for those who choose to refrain from judging others per the
> > kind and helpful suggestion of LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1-2)
>
> Our Lord's words in Matthew 7:1-2 do not constitute a "suggestion".

In the Holy Spirit, I know that LORD Jesus Christ has issued only two
commands to HIS brethren.

Matthew 7:1-2 is not one of these two commands.

Clearly you are not one of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ and remain
condemned:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mwphelps@gmail.com - 04 Dec 2006 04:44 GMT
Atheist and animist Andrew B. Chung wrote:
> Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> > Andrew, clearly demon-possessed, arrogantly wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> In the Holy Spirit, I know that LORD Jesus Christ has issued only two
> commands to HIS brethren.

Andrew Chung should stick to what he knows.  As it is, he is now
clearly guilty of heresy.

> Matthew 7:1-2 is not one of these two commands.

Andrew Chung continually lies, in the hope of causing
somebody--ANYBODY--to neglect the revealed Word of the Living God.

> Clearly you are not one of the brethren of LORD Jesus Christ and remain
> condemned:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?

Andrew's blasphemy against me is forgiven, as far as I am concerned.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 04 Dec 2006 04:53 GMT
Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Atheist false teacher MWPhelps (aka CoonSkin, CapMack et al) wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Andrew Chung should stick to what he knows.

In the Holy Spirit, I know that you remain eternally condemned:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b2ec2d7e3d655a7e?
mwphelps@gmail.com - 04 Dec 2006 05:27 GMT