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Ma¢k - 28 Nov 2006 20:10 GMT Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read here.
My thanks to Quentin, Jennifer, Susan, Kate, Julie, Colleen, Alan S., Jenny, Will, Pete, Chuck, Diana, Madison, RK, Exfat, Gys De Jongh and many others. Some of you didn't post much but you all were talked about and prayed for a great deal.
At first Mom didn't want to read the group. But after she learned how to use the kill file feature of agent she was able to enjoy her time reading in private.
When she found out about the type 2 she had the typical experience with poor medical advice that many here got when first diagnosed before coming here. Her doctors, provided at that time through the military as a widow of a veteran, simply told her to take 1 Avandia per day and to stay away from sugar. Guess who went through the roof and called the other kids and got mom to see better doctors.
With the new doctors and with the low carb advice from the newsgroup, and Jennifer's advice to newbies, mom was able to get her A1c into the 5% range several times. Later when she had to go on steroids during the cancer treatments she could no longer maintain that level of control. But she was able to keep it in the upper 6s and lower 7s.
When she found the lump in her breast she was reluctant at first to see the doctor about it but went that week after I reminded her of my birth mothers mistakes and refusal to see a doctor when she found her first lump. Mom was quickly diagnosed and scheduled for a lumpectomy and matching reduction for the right breast. She had the procedure, went through the radiation and chemo. And never had cancer return to the breasts.
However, she did later exhibit signs of a stroke and was at first misdiagnosed as having had a mild one. Then after a weekend of testing she was found to have developed a tumor in the brain that was putting pressure on the brain and mimicking the symptoms of a stroke. That's when she was started on radiation and steroids to reduce and hopefully get rid of the tumor. And thankfully that particular tumor was eradicated. And for a few months she was improving.
The cancer however was not completely eliminated from the body and did spread again. When the doctors detected it again it had spread to the liver, other organs, bones and had formed 3 small tumors at the back and left side of her skull.
At this point she was getting around with the help of a walker for short distances and a wheel chair for extended trips. The last 2 weeks of October she could no longer get out of her chair or bed without help but could still walk. Towards the end of the last week of Oct. she would fall if she walked to far without someone holding her. I missed catching her once and she scraped her arm and just barely missed catching her a second time. Twice I came over to her house to find her on the floor unable to get up. During this time we were trying to get home nursing but her benefits had been exhausted for that and they said she qualified for hospice. Hospice said they couldn't help until all three of her doctors signed off on their paperwork. We had to drop one of her doctors and get a new one because he refused to do what the hospice people were asking. Which was basically state that mom was terminal and that treatment was only to make her comfortable at this point. The guy turned out to be some Christian nut extremist similar to chung. And we weren't the first to have this problem with him.
Once we got the paper work cleared, hospice stepped in and was there with us every day from 6 am until late at night, no matter how many family and friends were in the house to help out. On Nov. 6th mom refused to get out of bed. Hospice brought in a hospital bed with an air mattress and set it up in the living room and then moved mom for us. We called everyone we knew, friends, family, everyone in her phonebook still alive and told them if they wanted to say goodbye by phone or in person they needed to do so as soon as possible.
During this time, the daughter that was living with her was fighting to keep her job and was getting the run around about getting FMLA time off. When she finally had enough of the crap and threatened to quit and we both spoke with her manager's boss she was given the time off she needed to be with mom. The daughter in Louisiana took her kids out of school and hopped in the car and drove up but didn't leave until the 8th and didn't arrive until the 10th at 3 PM. The 3rd daughter was coming over for several hours every day. On Wednesday the 8th mom was no longer able to talk but was still alert and responding. Thursday she could only stay awake for short periods of time. Friday shortly before the one daughter arrived at 3 mom would no longer wake up.
I was still scheduled to work Friday night and the hospice nurse said that mom would probably remain this way throughout the night and Saturday. That there was no need for me to stay. So I kissed her good night and told her I would see her first thing in the morning when I got off work. I went home to shower and change into my uniform. When I stepped out of the shower the phone rang and my sister, the one living with mom, was on saying that mom had stopped breathing and that I had to come back. She passed at 6 PM. I called work and told them what had happened and the assistant manager came in and worked my shift that night and someone else worked it Saturday night.
Mom's funeral was the following Friday on Nov. 17. She was laid to rest next to her husband, a man I never had the honor of meeting, in the veteran's section of the cemetery.
My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the nurse. My foster mom died just before thanksgiving. Her last wish, was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised her family. Karma.
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For the regulars that wanted to know where I was, the MIA posts, I have been reading the group. I just have not had the energy or the time to post. And in all honesty I did not want to see any ghoulish responses from the known trolls like chung, ironjustice or any of the aspartame nutters. Chung is in my kill file and he actually made mom's kill file the first day she started reading here. A devout Christian, mom never wanted to see any of his insanity. And mom never used artificial sweeteners after she was diagnosed as a type 2 so she didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't answer them or quote them in this thread.
Susan - 28 Nov 2006 20:15 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Mack, I'm so sorry that you lost such a wonderful parent and important person in your life. It sounds like she was someone who really understood what was important in life and shared that wisdom with you all.
It's heartening to know that information she found here helped her, even in any small way. I think that's true of many we never hear from.
Thanks for sharing her with us, and again, I'm very sorry for the progression of her cancer and your loss.
Susan
TigerLily - 28 Nov 2006 20:36 GMT Mack, my sincere condolences on the loss of your Mother, i know how important she was for you
i'm glad that she was able to read ASD, and i'm sure you helped her set up the kill files for the 30 different variations of Chung and the like
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> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Madison - 28 Nov 2006 20:48 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Mack, I am so sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Your sad story was hard for me to read.
I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family.
Madison
Alan S - 28 Nov 2006 22:06 GMT <snip>
>I am so ashamed of what I have become. > >Madison Sorry to intrude Mack - but Madison, what on earth do you have to be ashamed of? Don't talk like that.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
Gill Murray - 29 Nov 2006 02:19 GMT > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Maybe the sadness, but positiveness of Mack's fostermom is a positive beacon for Madison. I read the group, lurking mostly, and my heart has gone out to that child ( I am 70 so can say that). Maybe some good WILL come out of the bad news here.
Madison, I had no access to the group this summer, and you, also Quentin, were on my mind. I really hoped your lives were good. I am not too sure how old you are, I would guess about my eldest grandson's age, 16.
I am another of these anonynous grandmoms you have out here who are all rooting for you!
Gillian
W. Baker - 28 Nov 2006 22:10 GMT : Mack, I am so sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Your sad story was : hard for me to read.
: I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family.
: Madison Madison, please don't feel ashamed. You had several health problems that seemed too much for you, but you are getting help and will be able to deal with them and grow. Pleae know that we all love you too.
Wendy
Ma¢k - 29 Nov 2006 00:14 GMT [Default] On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:48:52 -0800, "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> into the madness of usenet:
>Mack, I am so sorry to hear of your mother's passing. Your sad story was >hard for me to read. > >I am so ashamed of what I have become. I will prey for you and your family. > >Madison Your prayers are greatly appreciated.
But for the life of me I see no reason for you to be ashamed. And I did read about your attempt. Mom did not. But she did make the same attempt many years ago before she had her first child. I made that same mistake when I was younger than you are now.
We each had different reasons and some similar reasons. And afterwards we all said the same thing for a while, we couldn't promise that we wouldn't do it again.
But we learn from our mistakes. And in time they shape us and make us better than we are now or were then. I used to say all the time how I wish I could take things back, change things etc. I don't anymore. Back then I didn't like myself or how my life was going. Now I do like myself and I do like how my life is going and I saying this 11 days after I buried my mother.
I see that attempt of mine as simply a mistake now. A mistake I am grateful I survived in spite of all the tuff times since then and all the bad people I run across as well. And you will experience more tuff times in your future. That is a part of life.
But none of us can say how many great things will happen in your future. If I had actually gone through with my mistake, I never would have met the woman who became my foster mother or the one person who became my spouse, and I would not have been in IRC that night with you when you went to the ER, remember? So who knows how you will be able to help someone in some small or big way when you meet them in person or on the net.
While my mother was fighting cancer and my sister was fighting to keep her job because of all the time off she was taking to be with mom, I was under medical review at my job. For a hypo that occurred more than 2 months prior to the review and after 2 of my doctor's certified me fit for duty. It took over a month and another review by my endo and a doctor of my company's choosing to get them off my back and get me back to work in my unit. Really bad timing since my normal work schedule allowed me to have Monday through Thursday off to spend with mom and while I was on review I was transferred to another department working Monday through Friday having to leave mom alone during the weekdays except when we were able to arrange for extra help. Will knows a little of those details.
Give yourself a little credit, it took courage to even mention it here in this group of international misfits. Most adults would have kept that to themselves, out of fear.
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Madison - 29 Nov 2006 04:06 GMT > [Default] On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:48:52 -0800, "Madison" > <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > in this group of international misfits. Most adults would have kept > that to themselves, out of fear. I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so I don't expect any of you will either.
If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious, it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a life that has nothing but misery to offer.
Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has been my friend, you most of all.
Madison
Ma¢k - 29 Nov 2006 06:01 GMT [Default] On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:06:39 -0800, "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like a drunken "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> into the madness of usenet:
>I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my >back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Madison ;} being a misfit is what it's all about. Being normal is the most mundane and boring existence. it took me a long while to come to appreciate that.
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Chris Malcolm - 29 Nov 2006 10:30 GMT Ma?k <stopthespam@shootspammers.com> wrote:
> [Default] On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:06:39 -0800, "Madison" > <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> Maniacally Screamed the following like > a drunken "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> into the madness of > usenet:
>>I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my >>back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >>Madison
> ;} being a misfit is what it's all about. Being normal is the most > mundane and boring existence. it took me a long while to come to > appreciate that. It also takes a lot of stressful effort to appear normal if you aren't, and it might well be bad for your health to bother. David Weeks in "Eccentrics: A Study of Sanity and Strangeness" found that frank eccentrics tend to live longer, enjoy better health, and have more fun.
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Donna B - 29 Nov 2006 07:00 GMT In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:06:39 -0800 in Msg.# <k_mdnbc1MvvXmvDYnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Madison" <madison_satonospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my > back on them and let them down by giving up. I wrote a long letter to my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it is not true. Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a > life that has nothing but misery to offer. Hi, Madison, you don't really know me, but let me say two things right off the bat:
Many people who have attempted suicide only to fail are full of shame & embarrassment for a time afterward. You're not alone. Others have felt this. Others will feel this. It's not weird that you feel this way.
I completely understand the idea of seriously contemplating taking your own life. I know that some people don't understand that. It's just unthinkable to them & they can't wrap their brains around it. Other people can. You can be fond of dark humor, as am I, and make a joke about the first time you thought about suicide & laugh & half the room laughs with you - that's because the other half doesn't appreciate dark humor or has never had that first time!! Or both. <G>
Another thing is that it is always possible that being depressed, being suicidal can make you think that things are worse than they really are - that your brain is really screwing with you & making you think that ALL is hopeless, that nothing good is enjoyable enough, that everything bad is the worst it has ever been & that it will continue that way endlessly.
That's not the same thing as not valuing your feelings. They're yours. You're entitled to them. All of them. But, it is something to think about in terms of double checking, checking your perceptions, etc. If you talk to a therapist, or someone else who understands generally, you can run ideas by them. I mean you have nothing to lose but the effort of doing so & your posts here show you are making efforts many of us would not! If you determine later that you were thinking just like you regularly do in evaluating things, all you've used up is time & effort. You haven't agreed to anything indefinitely or promised anything.
I don't know much about you at all. I wouldn't presume to judge you no matter what. These are just some ideas you might want to think about.
And, I don't think you need feel shame because you let people down who helped you. I think that's just all twisted up with blame & guilt buttons.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Nov 2006 12:48 GMT > I feel ashamed because so many people have helped me and I have turned my > back on them and let them down by giving up. Those who love you will forgive you.
> I wrote a long letter to my > parents explaining why I had made my choice. They still do not understand so > I don't expect any of you will either. Only you and GOD know the depth of your despair.
> If my therapist finds out about these posts, she will tell me I am reaching > out for help because I want to live. Unless this is completely subconscious, > it is not true. You are reaching out to receive the love that others have for you.
> Some of you must know what it is like to want to escape a > life that has nothing but misery to offer. Through all the suffering, it is the love we receive that sustains our souls.
> Please don't think of this group as international misfits. Everyone here has > been my friend, you most of all. > > Madison May GOD continue to bless you, dear sister Madison whom I love unconditionally in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
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Laura@notmy.com - 28 Nov 2006 20:49 GMT >Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and >then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > >scroll past my signature and read the note: Dear Mack, My heart grieves for you loss, and rejoices that you had, even tho for too short a time, such a lovely caring person in your life. I hope that as time goes, her memory will easy your pain and that you can always remember her for all the good she was.
Best to you and all your foster family in your time of loss.
Ozgirl - 28 Nov 2006 20:54 GMT Mack I am so sorry to hear this. It didn't seem natural for you to be away so long. Take care.
Kurt - 28 Nov 2006 20:59 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her > machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read > here. Sorry to hear about her passing, Mack. You certainly can be commended for doing all that you could during the difficult times, not the least of which is just plain being there.
Best, Kurt
sharppointy1 - 28 Nov 2006 21:02 GMT Dear Mack I am so sorry about your Mom's death. How lovely she could die at home - karma indeed. I am sending up nice Jewish girl prayers for your comfort. Thanks for letting us know what has been going on with you. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Mack}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Barbara
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't > answer them or quote them in this thread. stan.gula@gmail.com - 28 Nov 2006 21:12 GMT <story snipped>
Sincerest condolences, Ma¢k. My Mom who was also type II passed away from pancreatic cancer last winter, so your story hit home. The people from Hospice were incredibly helpful at the end - and they also provided my Dad with some very useful grief counseling. I'm sure it gave your Mom comfort to have her family around.
Take care.
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guy klose - 30 Nov 2006 18:58 GMT >Sincerest condolences, Ma=A2k. My Mom who was also type II passed away >from pancreatic cancer last winter, so your story hit home. Same here...both my parents were T2 and died from pancreatic cancer. My oldest brother, also a T2, died from pancreatic cancer last summer. Their stories were all very similar to Mak's.
My condolences as well.
TaniO - 28 Nov 2006 21:19 GMT Mack, please accept my heartfelt sympathy. Take comfort in knowing that you were there for her.
TaniO
Nicky - 28 Nov 2006 21:39 GMT > My foster mom died just before thanksgiving. Her last wish, > was that all of her children would be with her one last time. She had > all of her children, foster children, grandchildren, and great > grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised > her family. Karma. So sorry to hear of your loss, Mack. I think she was a lucky lady to have your love.
Nicky.
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W. Baker - 28 Nov 2006 22:07 GMT Ma?k <nukethespam@nukepammers.com> wrote:
: Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and : then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her : machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read : here. Mack,
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I know you loved your mother and the loss is so bitter. She had a chance to see all of ou and all the grandkids before she went which was god for both her and all of you. It is a blessing to be able to saw good-bye, as you all did. Your mom was so lucky fto find you to be her son, as I am lucky to have found my Laurie, who'se Dad I married 42 years ago after Laurie's first Mom had died of breast cancer. I have had her as a daughter for all these years and it has been wonderful. My 10 year old is now 53 and the mother of grown children. You Mom condsidered herself lucky too, and you have been a good and loving son.
Do post when you feel like it and we will be glad to see you back. Let me say baruch dayan emet- blessed is the true judge or judge of truth. May He watch over you and your entire family.
Wendy
Alan S - 28 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT >Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and >then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] >grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised >her family. Karma. I'm so sorry to hear that news Mack. My condolences to you and your family.
I can't express myself properly at these times. Just be aware that someone cares from half a world away.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Pompeii, Amalfi, Bari
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Nov 2006 22:11 GMT You have my condolences for your loss.
Would have prayed for your foster mother just as I have been praying for you, had I known. Perhaps this is why you are still here in this world and she is not.
May GOD continue to heal your heart by curing your diabetes, dear neighbor Mack whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
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> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't > answer them or quote them in this thread. Cheri - 28 Nov 2006 22:12 GMT Mack, I'm so sorry that the reason you've not been posting is such a sad reason. Thanks for letting us know. Take care and be well.
-- Cheri
>My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was >alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised >her family. Karma. Trinkwasser - 28 Nov 2006 22:54 GMT My sympathies. Seriously.
I've just been going through something not dissimilar, will post more later. (just in case anyone wondered why the silence from my end, the Real World does tend to intrude on usenet once in a while)
Be well, and take care of you.
Cheri - 28 Nov 2006 23:00 GMT Sorry to hear it, and yes I was wondering what had happened to you.
-- Cheri
Trinkwasser wrote in message ...
>I've just been going through something not dissimilar, will post more >later. (just in case anyone wondered why the silence from my end, the >Real World does tend to intrude on usenet once in a while) > >Be well, and take care of you. TaniO - 28 Nov 2006 23:05 GMT > My sympathies. Seriously. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Be well, and take care of you. Been wondering about you, Trink. Take good care of yourself and come back soon.
TaniO
Alan S - 28 Nov 2006 23:20 GMT >My sympathies. Seriously. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Be well, and take care of you. Yes, we did wonder. Looking forward to your return. Sorry to hear you've had similar difficulties.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
Nicky - 30 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT > My sympathies. Seriously. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Be well, and take care of you. Sorry to hear that, Trink! This email addy works, if you need some RW help.
Nicky.
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Lois - 28 Nov 2006 23:00 GMT (((((((((((((((((((((Hugs Mack from down-under))))))))))))))))))))))))
Lois
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Priscilla H. Ballou - 28 Nov 2006 23:21 GMT Mack, thank you for telling us about your foster mother's last weeks. I want to call it a beautiful story, because it's about love. Thank you for sharing it with us.
I'm so sorry for your losses. It sounds like you were a real gift to her, and she to you.
Priscilla
Ricavito - 29 Nov 2006 01:47 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > didn't get cancer because of them. If any of the trolls respond, don't > answer them or quote them in this thread. Mack, I'm so sorry for your loss. Your mother sounds like a lovely lady who will be missed by her many loved ones.
Anil - 29 Nov 2006 02:37 GMT < Snipped but read in full>
Sorry to hear the sad news Ma¢k. Hats off to your exemplary efforts to help your mother. There are few times in life that forces you to take a pause. Loosing a person you care for so deeply just freeze time completely like the moon covering the sun during solar eclipse
When I lost my father to diabetes, I hadn't yet been diagnosed (I had not accepted I had it is more like it!) with diabetes. So while I was quite aware of his suffering I did not see many aspects of this illness in its full complexity. Most of his struggle remained pretty much unappreciated by me. Yes he and I were great friends and his passing away was a bit too much for me. He was a wise man and a great thinker. His words of wisdom have never departed me. In a funny way our conversation never stopped!
May your conversation with your mother continue. May it remain a source of comfort and piece. Its nice to hear that she never gave up her zest for life against so many odds.
Peace, Anil
GrandpaChuck - 29 Nov 2006 03:58 GMT Thank you so much for a wonderful, caring post Mack. You and yours have heart felt sympathy from Laurie and me. You are a son to both moms any mother would be proud to call "Son."
>Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and >then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > >scroll past my signature and read the note:
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BlueBrooke - 29 Nov 2006 06:07 GMT Mack, I can only imagine how hard it was for you to write all of that to share it here -- not to mention living it, of course.
I am so sorry for your loss and wish you only the best.
BB
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Donna B - 29 Nov 2006 06:44 GMT I'm so sorry for your loss & for the difficulty getting through the end of it, and now looking at grief. But, I'm very glad you got your foster mom to read this group! And, good for you for providing the necessary filtering skills & set-up!!
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In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:10:06 -0500 in Msg.# <2tuom2584nk5l2qc7vrbpoebg7uj8c6u5r@4ax.com>, Ma¢k <nukethespam@nukepammers.com> wrote:
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to use the kill file feature of agent she was able to enjoy her time > reading in private. [ ... snip rest ... ]
Craig - 29 Nov 2006 10:30 GMT Dear Mack, So saddened to hear of your loss. Please know that our thoughts and prayers are with you at this time. Best Wishes, Craig,Type2 NSW, Australia
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Em - 29 Nov 2006 10:54 GMT Mack, sending my heartfelt sympathy. My thoughts and prayers are with you and all of her loved ones during this difficult time.
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> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > > scroll past my signature and read the note: Will, T2 - 29 Nov 2006 14:15 GMT >Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and >then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her >machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read >here.
>My birth mother died of cancer shortly after Thanksgiving. She was >alone on the floor of her hospital room when she was found by the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >grandchildren with her that day. She died in the same home she raised >her family. Karma. Hi Mack,
I am so very saddened to learn of the death of your mom. As you may recall, my own mother died of cancer after a very long and protracted illness. Even though it happened in 1968, in so many ways it seems like she just passed. There are some things that always remain fresh in our consciousness it seems.
Anyway, it is good to see you back on here. If it is any comfort, there are many of us who care greatly for you and who can relate to what you have endured in these past few weeks.
Now that you have some breathing room and time to reflect and remember, please do not forget to take care of yourself.
Will, T2
rk - 29 Nov 2006 14:52 GMT My prayers are still with you and your family Mack. Just know she's still is watching and loves you..
(I know I know but...)
God Bless..
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: Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and : then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] : : scroll past my signature and read the note: bj - 29 Nov 2006 17:40 GMT I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Deepest sympathies. bj
> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her > machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read > here. Jennifer - 30 Nov 2006 04:26 GMT Mack...
You have been through much.
You have been in my thoughts.
I have not been posting much lately either, but I too still read every day.
Take care of yourself and your loved ones.
Jennifer
percy - 30 Nov 2006 12:51 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her > machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read > here. snip
My sincerest condolances, Mack. You're in my thoughts.
Vicki
Michelle - 01 Dec 2006 01:59 GMT Mack,
I am so sorry to hear about your mom's passing. She had a hell of time. But she was truly blessed by her children. You all were there for her and made her last days as comfortable as possible. It's the best that anyone could expect or ask for.
I can tell how much you love her.
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GysdeJongh - 01 Dec 2006 02:59 GMT > Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and > then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her > machine up so she could if she ever chose to. She did however read Sorry to hear about her passing, Mack You were a very good and caring son for her I wish you much strength in the days to come I think it is very courageous to share this so I know I'am not alone
My father died a few month ago , 85 years old , in a horrible way My mother is still a bit in a shock I let her read your post , she was moved to tears I hope I can do for her what you did for your mother
Thx for sharing Gys
Ma¢k - 01 Dec 2006 21:33 GMT [Default] On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 03:59:58 +0100, "GysdeJongh" <jongh711@planet.nl>
>> Some of you know that my foster mother was diagnosed with type 2 and >> then with breast cancer. She never posted here. Though I did set her [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Thx for sharing >Gys Sorry to hear about your dad. My love and sympathy to you and your mother and the rest of your family. You'll find the strength you need in each other. And if you ever feel comfortable enough to write about it, it does help to share it. In here, via email, via our chat room. I am sure I am not the onlt one who would feel honored to share your memories. But only "if" and when you feel up to it.
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