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Anemia Often Develops In People With Type 2 Diabetes: Study

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Kurt - 27 Nov 2006 18:24 GMT
http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&filename=20061123/r
euters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.xml


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http://tinyurl.com/tjl9q
Cheri - 27 Nov 2006 21:46 GMT
Thanks for posting that Kurt. I hadn't seen the anemia factor before.
Learn something new every day. :-)

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Ozgirl - 27 Nov 2006 22:12 GMT
> Thanks for posting that Kurt. I hadn't seen the anemia factor before.
> Learn something new every day. :-)

"In patients with small blood vessel disease, decreasing Hb
levels tracked with decreasing renal function. The rate of
Hb decline was fastest in patients with established and
progressive renal injury and large blood vessel or
"macrovascular" disease at baseline.
"These data," Thomas concludes, "are important for
developing a rational response to prevention and early
management of anemia in individuals with diabetes."

Pity they didn't also include that diagnostic numbers need
to be revised downwards. Better to prevent the macrovascular
disease.
Nicky - 27 Nov 2006 22:09 GMT
> http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&filename=20061123/r
euters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.xml

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That's an interesting report! Typical, when I've just grumped at Kurt for
not posting anything of relevance to T2s...

What a difference to those of us in good health who may have too much
iron... I'm about to start trying to donate blood again, now the metformin's
out my system, to clear some excess out! Looking back, I think one of the
first symptoms of my diabetes in adult life was how long it took me to
squeeze out a pint - they eventually gave up and asked me not to come back.
I'll be very interested in whether or not that problem has gone away too.

Nicky.

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100ug Thyroxine
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Chrome - 28 Nov 2006 01:43 GMT
http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&fil
ename=20061123/reuters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.
xml

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> http://tinyurl.com/tjl9q

At 2002 diagnosis my Hb was:
16.2 g/dl    range (13.6 - 18.0)

2003 after getting my bG down:
17.6 g/dl    range (13.6 - 18.0) :)

2006:
14.9 g/dl    range (13.5 - 17.7) :(
RBC is also down

It looks like this is something I need to start paying attention
to. I think I'll start eating rusty nails. :)

C
Nicky - 28 Nov 2006 13:23 GMT
> http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&fil
> ename=20061123/reuters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.
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> It looks like this is something I need to start paying attention
> to. I think I'll start eating rusty nails. :)

Are you on aspirin? - might be low-level bleeding?

Nicky.

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MaryL - 29 Nov 2006 23:02 GMT
> http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&filename=20061123/r
euters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.xml

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> http://tinyurl.com/tjl9q

This looks like something I need to ask my doctor about.  I was diagnosed
with T2 in late May/early June 2005.  I have discussed this in some other
messages, but I was able (through change in diet) to bring my diabetes under
control and have not needed any medication since March of 2005.  I suspect
that I actually had diabetes for several years before being diagnosed,
despite annual physical exams with BG tests.

The reason I am discussing all this with reference to the article posted
here is that my doctor told me more than a year ago that my latest blood
work showed that I had anemia.  He was primarily concerned about internal
bleeding, but none showed up in stool samples.  I told him that I know of at
least two other occasions when I had anemia -- *many* years ago when I was a
college student, and later when I first started teaching.  Each time (two
different doctors in two different states), it was treated with iron for a
few years and I was eventually free of anemia.  My grandmother also had
anemia (but not diabetes) periodically through her life.  Since stool
samples did not show any blood, my current doctor prescribed iron.  Within a
few months, blood work was again normal.  He told me to discontinue my daily
intake of one low-dosage coated aspirin because he still suspected some
internal bleeding.

I did ask my doctor if there is an association of diabetes with anemia, and
he did not seem to put any credence in that.  Now, this article seems to
raise the same possibility.  So, I am going to ask him about it when I have
my next appointment in December.  In the meantime, I would appreciate any
additional information any of you may have (but it needs to be in
easy-to-understand laymen's terms for my benefit).

Thanks,
MaryL
Alice Faber - 29 Nov 2006 23:13 GMT
> > http://diabetes.org/diabetesnewsarticle.jsp?storyId=13867046&filename=200611
> > 23/reuters20061123health00000006reutershealthewEDIT.xml
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> additional information any of you may have (but it needs to be in
> easy-to-understand laymen's terms for my benefit).

That article implied a relationship between the anemia and diabetic
kidney problems. I know that my GP has, like yours, been concerned with
borderline anemia, but the blood and urine workups designed to monitor
kidney function haven't given any grounds for even mild concern
("watchful waiting").

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