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WHEN I DRINK PEPSI

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% - 21 Nov 2006 01:37 GMT
my blood sugar goes up
Alexander Arnakis - 21 Nov 2006 01:51 GMT
>my blood sugar goes up

You must be joking. All regular soft drinks (not diet soft drinks) are
full of sugar. That's why they may be useful in treating hypos --
although they're not the best solution even for that. Bottom line:
there's no reason for diabetics to be drinking regular soft drinks.
Alan S - 21 Nov 2006 02:13 GMT
>>my blood sugar goes up
>>
>You must be joking. All regular soft drinks (not diet soft drinks) are
>full of sugar. That's why they may be useful in treating hypos --
>although they're not the best solution even for that. Bottom line:
>there's no reason for diabetics to be drinking regular soft drinks.

Ignore it Alexander. A drunken troll who occasionally drops
in. I think he's actually slowly learning here - but he
can't resist posting when inebriated.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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% - 21 Nov 2006 02:29 GMT
> >>my blood sugar goes up
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
> latest: Rome and Lazio

don't be jealous of me when i get replies ,
it doesn't mean you're not liked ,
it just means you're being ignore right now ,
have you ever seen me drink an alcohol beverage ,
no you haven't so you're claim is a falsehood
Jeff - 21 Nov 2006 03:07 GMT
>>my blood sugar goes up
>>
> You must be joking. All regular soft drinks (not diet soft drinks) are
> full of sugar. That's why they may be useful in treating hypos --
> although they're not the best solution even for that. Bottom line:
> there's no reason for diabetics to be drinking regular soft drinks.

Correction: There is no reason for the vast majority of people to be
drinking regular soft drinks. Drink diet, instead.

The only exception to this that I can think of are people who have problems
keeping their weight up, like people who have cystic fibrosis (without
diabetes).

I would add that juice, even 100% natural juice, is basically sugar water
and really not better than soda.

Jeff
% - 21 Nov 2006 03:19 GMT
> >>my blood sugar goes up
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> when i juice its usually , " Crystal Light "
ray - 21 Nov 2006 03:27 GMT
> my blood sugar goes up

Doesn't seem to have that effect on me, but the only pepsi I'll touch is
pepsi-one.
rk - 21 Nov 2006 03:33 GMT
well no duh!

Pepsi-One has ONE calorie and is sugar free.

It's not the same as regular Pepsi, which WOULD
raise your bg..

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:
: > my blood sugar goes up
:
: Doesn't seem to have that effect on me, but the only pepsi I'll touch is
: pepsi-one.
% - 21 Nov 2006 04:27 GMT
> well no duh!
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> : Doesn't seem to have that effect on me, but the only pepsi I'll touch is
> : pepsi-one.

i best just stick to liquor ,
then i know where i'm at
Gantlet - 22 Nov 2006 21:12 GMT
>> well no duh!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> i best just stick to liquor ,
> then i know where i'm at

under the table?
% - 21 Nov 2006 04:26 GMT
> > my blood sugar goes up
>
> Doesn't seem to have that effect on me, but the only pepsi I'll touch is
> pepsi-one.

i never even heard of that
golu - 22 Nov 2006 06:01 GMT
Dear Ray

You will touch only pepsi. I ran into your message quite accidentally
while researching about some details on 'DIABETES' and thought of
sharing some of my findings. I've read at
www.medicalhealthcareinformation.com/encyclopedia/D/Diabetes.asp' you
also see www.diabetes.org.
Diabetes is a life-long disease marked by high levels of sugar in the
blood. It can be caused by too little insulin (a hormone produced by
the pancreas to regulate blood sugar), resistance to insulin, or both
A sugar called glucose enters the bloodstream. Glucose is a source of
fuel for the body.
An organ called the pancreas makes insulin. The role of insulin is to
move glucose from the bloodstream into muscle, fat, and liver cells,
where it can be used as fuel. People with diabetes have high blood
glucose. This is because their pancreas does not make enough insulin or
their muscle, fat, and liver cells do not respond to insulin normally,
or both . Consistent with prior studies, self-reports of fair or poor
health were associated with several health risk factors such as smoking
and obesity. "Persons with diabetes should quit smoking through smoking
cessation programs and control their weight through exercise and a
healthy diet," the report states.
Diabetes affects about 17 million Americans. There are many risk
factors for diabetes, including:
A parent, brother, or sister with diabetes
Obesity Age greater than 45 years Some ethnic groups (particularly
African-   Americans and Hispanic Americans)
Gestational diabetes or delivering a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
High blood pressure .High blood levels of triglycerides (a type of fat
molecule)
High blood cholesterol level .
Treatment
There is no cure for diabetes. The immediate goals are to stabilize
your blood sugar and eliminate the symptoms of high blood sugar. The
long-term goals of treatment are to prolong life, relieve symptoms, and
prevent long-term complications such as heart disease and kidney
failure. Your specific meal plans need to be tailored to your food
habits and preferences. People with type 1 diabetes should eat at about
the same times each day and try to be consistent with the types of food
they choose. This helps to prevent blood sugars from becoming extremely
high or low. Type 2 diabetics should follow a well-balanced and low-fat
diet.A registered dietician can be very helpful in planning dietary
needs.Some people with type 2 diabetes can stop medications after
losing excess weight, although the diabetes is still present.
Here are some Exercise considerations:
You also do some exercise also.Choose an enjoyable physical activity
that is appropriate for your current fitness level. Exercise every day,
and at the same time of day, if possible.
Monitor blood glucose levels before and after exercise.
Carry food that contains a fast-acting carbohydrate in case you become
hypoglycemic during or after exercise. Carry a diabetes identification
card and a mobile phone or change for a payphone in case of emergency.
Drink extra fluids that do not contain sugar before, during, and after
exercise.
Changes in exercise intensity or duration may require changes in diet
or medication dose to keep blood sugar levels from going too high or
low. You should be evaluated by your physician before starting an
exercise program.
I hope the above is of some help to you as well.

Regards, payal<ambrish.shrivastava@netlinkis.com>
ray - 22 Nov 2006 16:51 GMT
> Dear Ray
>
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>
> Regards, payal<ambrish.shrivastava@netlinkis.com>

So what's your friggin' point? What I said was "I only tough pepsi one" -
it is a one calorie version and is a hell of a lot better than diet pepsi.
BTW I'm currently rereading Dr. Bernstein's book and reminding myself that
I need to exercise more. Otherwise, my low carb diet is doing quite well.
Alan S - 22 Nov 2006 21:31 GMT
>> Regards, payal<ambrish.shrivastava@netlinkis.com>
>
>So what's your friggin' point? What I said was "I only tough pepsi one" -
>it is a one calorie version and is a hell of a lot better than diet pepsi.
>BTW I'm currently rereading Dr. Bernstein's book and reminding myself that
>I need to exercise more. Otherwise, my low carb diet is doing quite well.

The friggin' point was that it was spam - but the poster
stuffed up his own link:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Gantlet - 22 Nov 2006 22:39 GMT
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message > So what's your friggin' point?
What I said was "I only tough pepsi one" -
> it is a one calorie version and is a hell of a lot better than diet pepsi.
> BTW I'm currently rereading

Yes exercise is good.
I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com

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Nicky - 23 Nov 2006 12:34 GMT
> Yes exercise is good.
> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.

FFS, Tom - that is incredibly pathetic, even for you! FOUND it, indeed!

Nicky.

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Chris Malcolm - 23 Nov 2006 16:23 GMT
>> Yes exercise is good.
>> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.

> FFS, Tom - that is incredibly pathetic, even for you! FOUND it, indeed!

Give the man some credit, Nicky. He's developing his literary
skills. It's a parody.

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Kurt - 24 Nov 2006 18:44 GMT
> >> Yes exercise is good.
> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Give the man some credit, Nicky. He's developing his literary
> skills. It's a parody.

There you go again, pretending to know what parody means. Seriously,
Chris, you should just avoid dicussing comedy in any form whatsoever.
When it comes to understanding "funny" you are dumb, ingorant, stupid,
and any other of the words you use over and over in your condescending
newsgroup lectures.

Kurt
rk - 24 Nov 2006 19:05 GMT
: > >> Yes exercise is good.
: > >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
:
: Kurt

LOL score 1 for Kurt!
Alan S - 24 Nov 2006 21:25 GMT
>: > >> Yes exercise is good.
>: > >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>LOL score 1 for Kurt!

Really?

A battle of wits between Chris and Kurt would seem a little
unfair. Most contests benefit from both contenders being
similarly armed. Walkovers are boring.

As a separate issue discussions of "comedy" rarely work
between transatlanticans; we see both sides down here but
there is little common ground in the British and US view of
mirth.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 24 Nov 2006 23:02 GMT
>> >> Yes exercise is good.
>> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Kurt

Really? I saw it as parody. I saw it as Tom making fun of
the idiots who come in here pretending they just came across
a website they own or have associations with.
Alan S - 24 Nov 2006 23:55 GMT
>Really? I saw it as parody. I saw it as Tom making fun of
>the idiots who come in here pretending they just came across
>a website they own or have associations with.

In fact, I accept that Tom was having a go at my sig. No
problem - after arguing initially I learned long ago stop
bleating about Chuck's, Loretta's etc

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

So he can advertise it as much as he wishes; could be good
once it has some content.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Chris Malcolm - 25 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT
>> >> Yes exercise is good.
>> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Give the man some credit, Nicky. He's developing his literary
>> skills. It's a parody.

> There you go again, pretending to know what parody means. Seriously,
> Chris, you should just avoid dicussing comedy in any form whatsoever.
> When it comes to understanding "funny" you are dumb, ingorant, stupid,
> and any other of the words you use over and over in your condescending
> newsgroup lectures.

How odd! In each of the three organisations in which I have spent most
of my working life I produced an in-house humorous magazine for the
staff. In one case it was so liked not just by the staff, but by the
managment, that they formalised the magazine and gave me work time to
produce it.  My parodies have also sometimes appeared in the
press. Most of them unfortunately are technical or scientific parodies
which require familiarity with research papers in the discipline to
understand.

I see that I still have in my files a parody you might understand,
however, which was published by a gay magazine in the UK. In order to
understand three of the local references you should know firstly that
the Blue Moon is a cafe in the Gay Central part of Edinburgh which
also features an art gallery and shop which specialise in gay
items. Secondly "The Laughing Duck" is a public house in Edinburgh
whose sign was once defaced by adding a "y" in a student prank
referring to its clientele. Thirdly at the time of the parody the gay
establishment of Edinburgh, and in particular the use of ratepayers'
funds by the local council to renovate the building which became the
Blue Moon, was under sustained attack by letters in the local press
and newsgroups by an angry ratepayer called Johnson. I should warn you
that there are long words in this parody.

Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/humour/Blue_Moon.html

As I'm sure you are aware, the best parodies by the most famous
parodists have always been considered not in the least amusing by
some, and downright offensive by others. I regard it as something of a
triumph that a poster here tells me:

> There you go again, pretending to know what parody means. Seriously,
> Chris, you should just avoid dicussing comedy in any form whatsoever.
> When it comes to understanding "funny" you are dumb, ingorant, stupid,
> and any other of the words you use over and over in your condescending
> newsgroup lectures.

That's such a good self parody that I'm sure nobody will mind me
repeating it :-)

There's some lovely material for parody in this newsgroup. I must
confess to being tempted! Would you like to tempt me some more?

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Kurt - 25 Nov 2006 18:51 GMT
> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
>
> http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/humour/Blue_Moon.html

Exhibit A: Not Funny

Publication does not equal quality, as illustrated by this groaningly
poor writing.  It's overly wordy (DUH!) which is the first sign of an
amateur comedian, and the homophobic subject matter makes it seem like
it was written in the 1940's.

I could analyze this little alleged funny story and tell you point for
point why it's humor impaired but that would mean I'd have to read it a
second time.  The thought of that has bereft me of all desire.

Seriously, Chris, when it comes to comedy...don't give up your day job.
Oh, that's right, you don't have one.  Okay, don't give up your
constant posting on a.s.d.  Just stick to what you know best...writing
posts that are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Kurt
Chris Malcolm - 25 Nov 2006 22:27 GMT
>> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
>>
>> http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/humour/Blue_Moon.html

> Exhibit A: Not Funny

> Publication does not equal quality, as illustrated by this groaningly
> poor writing.  It's overly wordy (DUH!) which is the first sign of an
> amateur comedian,

It was a parody of a notoriously wordy person. A parody of Johnson
*must* be extrememly wordy in order to be a parody. So either you
don't know what a parody is, or you don't know who Dr Johnson
is. Possibly both.

> and the homophobic subject matter makes it seem like
> it was written in the 1940's.

Of course it did! Dr Johnson was an 18th century homophobe! You really
haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about, have you?

I thought if I shifted ground from science to English lit I might hit
something you knew about...

> I could analyze this little alleged funny story and tell you point for
> point why it's humor impaired but that would mean I'd have to read it a
> second time.  

That's a very telling phrase you use there, "humor impaired". It tells
me that you have never read a critical analysis of any of the great
English humorists, and probably have never even read any of the great
literary critics.

> The thought of that has bereft me of all desire.

Well, if I what I wrote was unable to get as far as a brain, I'm glad
at least it got somewhere.

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Kurt - 26 Nov 2006 01:02 GMT
> >> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> don't know what a parody is, or you don't know who Dr Johnson
> is. Possibly both.

I am vaguely familiar with Samuel Johnson and understand parody enough
to know that you don't.

> > and the homophobic subject matter makes it seem like
> > it was written in the 1940's.
>
> Of course it did! Dr Johnson was an 18th century homophobe! You really
> haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about, have you?

> I thought if I shifted ground from science to English lit I might hit
> something you knew about...

LOL.  Chris, please, stick to boring people with pseudo scientific
lectures here because every time you try to discuss comedy or any other
kind of artistic expression you expose yourself.  What you know about
comedy you could fit into the pancreas of a gnat (tip of the hat to the
late great Fred Allen).

Let me explain something to you about comedy, Chris. Any great comedic
mind, from Aristotle to Shakespeare to Lenny Bruce to Bill Hicks to
Howard Stern, understands one thing about comedy - it has to be
relevant to be funny.  In other words you need to know your audience.
This alleged parody you wrote was based on someone from the 18th
century that very few people have ever heard of, let alone his
particular flaws that you tried to lampoon.  The problem with the
article is indicative of the problem you have in posting - nobody gets
what you're trying to say.  You can dismiss that as people being too
"stupid, ignorant, dumb" if you want, but the truth is that you don't
know your audience.  That's why Tom's parody was funnier than your
attempt because we all are exposed daily to gratuitous plugs for
websites and books.  It was relevant to the audience here in a.s.d.
Yours was not.  It really is as simple as that.  Comedy is not some
stuffy lecture that you can deliver to students who are forced to
listen, it demands that the writer understand their audience's point of
reference and use it to find a way to reach them in a funny way.

> That's a very telling phrase you use there, "humor impaired". It tells
> me that you have never read a critical analysis of any of the great
> English humorists

English humorists...now that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.  You
see what I did there, Chris, I made a joke based on a subject that was
understood by my audience...which in this case is you!

Actually I majored in English in college and have a Master of Fine Arts
degree.  However, when it comes to comedy, critical analysis bores me.
It's either funny or it isn't.

>and probably have never even read any of the great
> literary critics.

Critics?  Are you serious?  Critics are poseurs who couldn't create
themselves so they sit back and pick apart what others create like
vultures tearing on living flesh.  Pooey on your literary critics.  Not
only was I forced to read them, I then proceeded to criticize THEM!
How do you like that?

> > The thought of that has bereft me of all desire.
>
> Well, if I what I wrote was unable to get as far as a brain, I'm glad
> at least it got somewhere.

Now you're at least coming within shouting distance of something
bordering on humor.

I suggest you get out more and explore present day comedy.  You missed
the Edinburgh Festival Fringe this year but there is another one in
2007, I think sometime in August.  No, Samuel Johnson won't be there,
but some very funny people will.  Wake up and smell the new millennium.

Kurt
Alan S - 26 Nov 2006 02:31 GMT
>> >> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
>English humorists...now that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.

First you must spell it correctly - when in Rome and all
that. English humourists, American humorists. Some are
funny, many aren't - one man's humour is another man's
ho-hum. I'm fascinated by the ability of some who consider
themselves expert on the subject via academia but have never
written a line that was funny to anyone but themselves. Or
their mother.

>  You
>see what I did there, Chris, I made a joke based on a subject that was
>understood by my audience...which in this case is you!
>
>Actually I majored in English in college and have a Master of Fine Arts
>degree.

Thank you for letting us know. We certainly would never have
realised that from your postings.

> However, when it comes to comedy, critical analysis bores me.
>It's either funny or it isn't.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Kurt

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Kurt - 26 Nov 2006 03:26 GMT
> >English humorists...now that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
>
> First you must spell it correctly - when in Rome and all
> that. English humourists, American humorists.

I'm not in Rome, or England. I am an American and so I use the American
spelling of the word.  Also, I don't follow your made up rules of what
is correct and what one "must" do.

>Some are
> funny, many aren't - one man's humour is another man's
> ho-hum. I'm fascinated by the ability of some who consider
> themselves expert on the subject via academia but have never
> written a line that was funny to anyone but themselves. Or
> their mother.

In the real world I have made a lot of money in showbusiness so there
are some who find worth in my talents...I'll leave it at that because
any more information will send you into stalker mode.

I have posted some funny lines and original comedy material in here,
however this is a diabetes newsgroup so I don't really feel the need or
obligation to entertain others.

> >Actually I majored in English in college and have a Master of Fine Arts
> >degree.
>
> Thank you for letting us know. We certainly would never have
> realised that from your postings.

Who is this "we" and "us" you so often use in your posts, Alan?
Seriously, can you not just speak for yourself?  Or do you really have
multiple personalities?

Kurt
Chris Malcolm - 26 Nov 2006 16:32 GMT
>> >> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> don't know what a parody is, or you don't know who Dr Johnson
>> is. Possibly both.

> I am vaguely familiar with Samuel Johnson and understand parody enough
> to know that you don't.

"Vaguely familiar with Samuel Johnson"? Yet you didn't know that a
parody of Samuel Johnson would have to be excessively wordy? That's a
pretty vague kind of familiarity!

>> > and the homophobic subject matter makes it seem like
>> > it was written in the 1940's.
>>
>> Of course it did! Dr Johnson was an 18th century homophobe! You really
>> haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about, have you?

>> I thought if I shifted ground from science to English lit I might hit
>> something you knew about...

> LOL.  Chris, please, stick to boring people with pseudo scientific
> lectures here because every time you try to discuss comedy or any other
> kind of artistic expression you expose yourself.  

Exactly. As do you :-)

> What you know about
> comedy you could fit into the pancreas of a gnat (tip of the hat to the
> late great Fred Allen).

Firstly the pancreas is one of the largest endocrine organs in the
body and secondly insects don't have one. But of course you knew all
that. It was all part of your joke, aimed as it was at an audience
who know something of the science of glucose regulation in the animal
world :-)

Why are you changing the subject? I have never claimed to know
anything about comedy. I do claim a special expertise in parody.

> Let me explain something to you about comedy, Chris.

The topic is parody, Kurt. Why are you changing the subject? Do you
happen to know a bit more about comedy perhaps?

> Any great comedic
> mind, from Aristotle to Shakespeare to Lenny Bruce to Bill Hicks to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> century that very few people have ever heard of, let alone his
> particular flaws that you tried to lampoon.  

I didn't try to lampoon Johnson, Kurt, I tried to parody him. Your
alleged familiarity with the meaning of parody is getting vageuer by
the minute.

Your point about the need to be relevant to the intended audience is
however spot on target. I was aiming it at an audience who knew about
Dr Johnson. From your previous remarks about your literary education I
assumed that was you. I don't know what your presumably US education
was like, but my education included being given a lot more than a
"vague familiarity" with Johnson at school. Boswell's life of Johnson
was a recommended text in the school library.

> The problem with the
> article is indicative of the problem you have in posting - nobody gets
> what you're trying to say.  

Some of the posters to asd are people I know of old from other
newsgroups prior to my developing diabetes and coming here. In earlier
times in other newsgroups we've discussed other medical topics and
other literary topics and I well know that they "get" what I'm trying
to say.  Even if you don't "get" it, your literary skills ought at
least to be up to the job of recognising from their responses that
some other posters do.

> You can dismiss that as people being too
> "stupid, ignorant, dumb" if you want, but the truth is that you don't
> know your audience.  

That's a very understandable confusion. What you mean is *you* don't
know my audience. But I'd be careful about making too much noise
about that, because it doesn't reflect credit upon your education.

> That's why Tom's parody was funnier than your
> attempt because we all are exposed daily to gratuitous plugs for
> websites and books.  

You've made the elementary error of supposing you can judge how funny
something intended for one audience is by the reaction of another.

> It was relevant to the audience here in a.s.d.
> Yours was not.  

Of course it wasn't. It was intended for a very specific audience, a
literarily educated Kurt who was more than "vaguely familiar" with
Dr Johnson and the English parodists. Alas you seem to be correct in
pointing out that my intended audience does not exist. My error and my
apologies.

>> That's a very telling phrase you use there, "humor impaired". It tells
>> me that you have never read a critical analysis of any of the great
>> English humorists

> Actually I majored in English in college and have a Master of Fine Arts
> degree.  However, when it comes to comedy, critical analysis bores me.
> It's either funny or it isn't.

Once again a *very* telling turn of phrase! No doubt you can sometimes
be overheard in art galleries telling an embarrassed friend that
critical analysis bores you, but you know what you like.

>> and probably have never even read any of the great
>> literary critics.

> Critics?  Are you serious?  Critics are poseurs who couldn't create
> themselves so they sit back and pick apart what others create like
> vultures tearing on living flesh.  Pooey on your literary critics.  Not
> only was I forced to read them, I then proceeded to criticize THEM!
> How do you like that?

I like it very much. It confirms for me that your English education
wasn't even as good as second rate. You don't even know that some of
the great English writers are also among the great English critics!
However, I must be careful not to imply too much criticism of your
college and tutors. The quality of education you got from them may
not have been entirely their fault.

> I suggest you get out more and explore present day comedy.  You missed
> the Edinburgh Festival Fringe this year but there is another one in
> 2007, I think sometime in August.  No, Samuel Johnson won't be there,
> but some very funny people will.  

How do you know Johnson won't be there?

Parodies of Johnson have featured quite often in the Edinburgh Fringe.
If your disappointing claim that hardly anyone (presumably in the US?)
has heard of Dr Johnson is correct, you will be delighted to hear that
Dr Johnson is well enough known in the UK that Coltrane's parody of
Johnson in the historical TV comedy Blackadder was much applauded, as
was Byrne's TV miniseries based on a parody of Johnson visiting the
Western Isles of Scotland. I believe Blackadder was exported by the
BBC to US TV. I'm sorry you missed it, otherwise you might have "got"
that in parodying Johnson it is almost impossible to be too wordy.

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Kurt - 26 Nov 2006 19:02 GMT
> >> >> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> parody of Samuel Johnson would have to be excessively wordy? That's a
> pretty vague kind of familiarity!

Dear Nutty Professor,

I remember reading a bit of Samuel Johnson back in college, but his
particular style is vague to me, much like many authors one studies.
The fact that I'm not an authority on one particular 18th century
writer will just have to be my shortcoming in life.  But if you want to
take one writer out of context of the study of literature I could
probably throw dozens of names at you that you've never heard of and
then smugly snicker at you from my high horse like you are doing.  Are
you really that insecure? But I can see how Samuel Johnson is a hero of
yours, what with him being excessively wordy.  He would probably find
your "parody" lacking, but your newsgroup posts as a sincere form of
imitation.

> >> > and the homophobic subject matter makes it seem like
> >> > it was written in the 1940's.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> who know something of the science of glucose regulation in the animal
> world :-)

What, you've never heard of Fred Allen?  Dolt!

> Why are you changing the subject? I have never claimed to know
> anything about comedy.

That's a given, but parody is a comedic device.

>I do claim a special expertise in parody.

People can claim anything they want, but it doesn't make it true.  You
make writing parody seem like it's some kind of lofty literary
achievement for which someone is awarded a diploma.  Why is it that
everything you write or say comes off as an old antique covered in the
dust?

> > Let me explain something to you about comedy, Chris.
>
> The topic is parody, Kurt. Why are you changing the subject? Do you
> happen to know a bit more about comedy perhaps?

Well, for a man who doesn't know the difference between beans and
grains I guess I can understand how you would not think parody is
comedy.  But how could you make that mistake, after all you claim to
have a special expertise in parody.

> > Any great comedic
> > mind, from Aristotle to Shakespeare to Lenny Bruce to Bill Hicks to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> alleged familiarity with the meaning of parody is getting vageuer by
> the minute.

Parody is a form, mockery is the intent.  Your piece, as bad as it was,
lampooned Mr. Johnson because it made fun of his style.  Within the
dusty old chestnut you wrote one could also describe it as satire.
Sorry to keep using these words that you don't seem to understand the
meaning of, you might want to get a dictionary out to follow along.
Start with the word "comedy" and go from there.

> Your point about the need to be relevant to the intended audience is
> however spot on target. I was aiming it at an audience who knew about
> Dr Johnson.

You posted it in this newsgroup.  There may be a few who know of him,
but not the particular intricacies of his style.  Sorry, you weren't
relevant.  You were using your poorly written "parody" to try to
convince everyone that you are some kind of expert.  You're not.

>From your previous remarks about your literary education I
> assumed that was you. I don't know what your presumably US education
> was like, but my education included being given a lot more than a
> "vague familiarity" with Johnson at school. Boswell's life of Johnson
> was a recommended text in the school library.

Well, not all of us attended Hogwarts like you did.  Johnson is just
not the literary giant that you make him out to be.  He was a minor
blip in the radar of literature.  You seem fixated on him, yet
unfamiliar with anyone in the last 100 years.

> > The problem with the
> > article is indicative of the problem you have in posting - nobody gets
> > what you're trying to say.
>
> Some of the posters to asd are people I know of old from other
> newsgroups prior to my developing diabetes and coming here.

How telling.  Do you guys all travel in packs?  What newsgroup did you
all hang together in before having a reunion in a.s.d.?  a.s.j.
(alt.samuel.johnson)?

>In earlier
> times in other newsgroups we've discussed other medical topics and
> other literary topics and I well know that they "get" what I'm trying
> to say.

That's frightening.

>Even if you don't "get" it, your literary skills ought at
> least to be up to the job of recognising from their responses that
> some other posters do.

I must have missed the gaggle of guffaws from the dozens of posters who
rushed in to slap you on the back in congratulations for your briliiant
Samuel Johnson parody.  Damn newsreader!

> > You can dismiss that as people being too
> > "stupid, ignorant, dumb" if you want, but the truth is that you don't
> > know your audience.
>
> That's a very understandable confusion. What you mean is *you* don't
> know my audience.

Oh, I know them alright.  They are the Dead Poets Society, circa 1943.

>But I'd be careful about making too much noise
> about that, because it doesn't reflect credit upon your education.

In the world of Chris Malcolm people are measured by their academic
achievements.  Some of the most briliant literary and comedic minds in
history have had little formal education.  Those who can do, do.  Those
who can't do, teach.  Those who can't teach, spend day and night here
in the newsgroup trying to convince others of how smart they are.

> > That's why Tom's parody was funnier than your
> > attempt because we all are exposed daily to gratuitous plugs for
> > websites and books.
>
> You've made the elementary error of supposing you can judge how funny
> something intended for one audience is by the reaction of another.

Unlike you who lives to hear the roar of silence.

> > It was relevant to the audience here in a.s.d.
> > Yours was not.
>
> Of course it wasn't. It was intended for a very specific audience, a
> literarily educated Kurt who was more than "vaguely familiar" with
> Dr Johnson and the English parodists.

Oh, so it was intended for me?  I am flattered.  How deep is the sewer
of your delusion that you think I would be impressed with that amateur
blob of comedy?  Even if I had written a doctoral thesis on Samuel
Johnson I would not have even chuckled once at that poor attempt at
humor.

>Alas

Does anyone even use that word anymore?

>you seem to be correct in
> pointing out that my intended audience does not exist. My error and my
> apologies.

Accepted.  Nice to see you are starting to at least open your eyes.

> >> That's a very telling phrase you use there, "humor impaired". It tells
> >> me that you have never read a critical analysis of any of the great
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> be overheard in art galleries telling an embarrassed friend that
> critical analysis bores you, but you know what you like.

Art galleries?  Stick to the subject at hand - Comedy and your lack of
it.

> >> and probably have never even read any of the great
> >> literary critics.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> wasn't even as good as second rate. You don't even know that some of
> the great English writers are also among the great English critics!

Most great writers who become critics only do so after spending a
lifetime as a struggling artist during which time they turn out the
best work of their lives.  After they become recognized for their work
and win the awards, get the money, and become fat they sit around and
critcize others.  Your statement confirms to me that you are way more
comfortable critcizing than creating.  That's probably why you've spent
your life in the safety of the academic world.  Most college professors
are wannabes who didn't have the self confidence to pursue a
professional career.

> However, I must be careful not to imply too much criticism of your
> college and tutors. The quality of education you got from them may
> not have been entirely their fault.

I know you meant that as a joke, but the structure of it just doesn't
work very well.  Try to be a little sharper and on point.

> > I suggest you get out more and explore present day comedy.  You missed
> > the Edinburgh Festival Fringe this year but there is another one in
> > 2007, I think sometime in August.  No, Samuel Johnson won't be there,
> > but some very funny people will.
>
> How do you know Johnson won't be there?

Well, he may well be if someone wants to exhume him and drag his old
a.s up on stage.

> Parodies of Johnson have featured quite often in the Edinburgh Fringe.

Hey, you're a shoe-in for a spot.  Go to their website and find out how
you can be an official entry.  You two could be a comedy duo.
"Tonight, live on stage, 'Chris Malcolm and Samuel Johnson: A Pair of
Dese'"

> If your disappointing claim that hardly anyone (presumably in the US?)
> has heard of Dr Johnson is correct, you will be delighted to hear that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Western Isles of Scotland. I believe Blackadder was exported by the
> BBC to US TV. I'm sorry you missed it

I saw it...total borefest.  British television is about 50 years behind
American television.  Watching British programming I can almost see the
dust coming out of my plasma screen.

>otherwise you might have "got"
> that in parodying Johnson it is almost impossible to be too wordy.

I think in the world of Chris Malcolm nothing can be too wordy.  But
hey, did you like how long my post here is to you?  That's a parody!!!

Kurt
rk - 26 Nov 2006 22:06 GMT
: Dear Nutty Professor,
:
: Kurt

Kurt!

Please don't insult Jerry Lewis or Eddie Murphy! By putting
ahem that poster in the same class... He could NEVER fill
either of their shoes..

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TigerLily - 25 Nov 2006 22:14 GMT
bwha ha ha ha :-)

> >> >> Yes exercise is good.
> >> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Here is "Dr Johnson and Boswell Visit the Blue Moon Cafe in Edinburgh",

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/humour/Blue_Moon.html

> As I'm sure you are aware, the best parodies by the most famous
> parodists have always been considered not in the least amusing by
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> There's some lovely material for parody in this newsgroup. I must
> confess to being tempted! Would you like to tempt me some more?
Gantlet - 25 Nov 2006 17:32 GMT
>> >> Yes exercise is good.
>> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Kurt

I would love to see Chris try to talk like this to me in person.
but then again small people usually do have some kind of complex in which
they must try to show they only LOOK like a 90lb weekling.
as far as Nicky goes.  she should thank me.  remember a while back i started
saying that some in here basically just do a mini report on studies they
read but dont truely understand them?  it was at that point that Nicky's
posts changed. she used to be a lot more humble until she read my post and
now that is what she does.
One thing my web site did show me is just how few people actually read this
group and we can only thank those with the biggest know it all mouths for
that.  Well anyway,, Kurt, RK and Cheri.. hope you are having a wonderful
time this holiday season.  back to work for me..

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Chris Malcolm - 26 Nov 2006 00:09 GMT
>>> >> Yes exercise is good.
>>> >> I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> Kurt

> I would love to see Chris try to talk like this to me in person.
> but then again small people usually do have some kind of complex in which
> they must try to show they only LOOK like a 90lb weekling.

How very sad.

Tom has posted sneering comments about the appearance of nearly every
regular asd poster who's posted a pointer to a photograph of
themselves. They're all older, fatter, balder, weaker, thinner, or
iller than he is. He's even suggested some of them may have doctored
their photographs.

However, despite all this implied boasting, Tom has refused to produce
a photograph of himself. He even went so far as to post photographs of
a trip he took on his motorcycle, which consisted of nothing but
photographs of the bike and plates of food. Not a person in sight. The
solitary rider and food scoffer stayed carefully behind the camera.

He has often requested more of the posters he criticises to post
photos of themselves. He has suggested that their reluctance might be
a reluctance to make obvious to the newsgroup just how far short their
real physique was of their rhetoric about diet and exercise.

So I posted a photo of myself. And of my bike, incidentally. Not a
patch on Tom's rather splendid bike. It's smaller, weaker, older, and
tattier. Just like me. But as a fellow biker I was giving Tom a
choice. He could strike up a friendly conversation based on our shared
enthusiasm for motorcycles. He could simply make no comment.  Or he
could take the opportunity to sneer at my physical appearance.

Was anyone taking bets?

He chose to sneer at my appearance. He thinks I look like a small 90lb
weakling. Fair enough.

So what do *you* look like, Tom?

Too scared to let us see a photo of *you*, big mouth?

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Cheri - 26 Nov 2006 01:47 GMT
I really do think it's unfortunate when people make negative comments on
other posters pictures, especially when theirs is not there, but even if
their picture was there, it would be still be unfortunate. I think it's
a personal choice as to whether one wants a picture on the net or not, I
don't, but I do enjoy seeing pictures of posters, and I appreciate it
when people take the time to post their pics. Where did you post the
picture of you and your bike Chris?

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<4ss49cF112gsoU1@mid.individual.net>...
>So I posted a photo of myself. And of my bike, incidentally. Not a
>patch on Tom's rather splendid bike. It's smaller, weaker, older, and
>tattier. Just like me. But as a fellow biker I was giving Tom a
>choice. He could strike up a friendly conversation based on our shared
>enthusiasm for motorcycles. He could simply make no comment.  Or he
>could take the opportunity to sneer at my physical appearance.
Alan S - 26 Nov 2006 02:33 GMT
>I really do think it's unfortunate when people make negative comments on
>other posters pictures, especially when theirs is not there, but even if
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>when people take the time to post their pics. Where did you post the
>picture of you and your bike Chris?

Tom, please note, while on this subject:

first god made man beautiful;
then she gave him hair.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Gantlet - 27 Nov 2006 01:04 GMT
"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Tom, please note, while on this subject:
>
> first god made man beautiful;

i didnt know you swang that way Alan

> then she gave him hair.

i hope you find god.
Alan S - 27 Nov 2006 01:42 GMT
>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>i didnt know you swang that way Alan

You feel uncomfortable that a hetero may appreciate beauty
in both genders? That probably says a lot more about you
than it does about me.

Incidentally, I also find gazelles, lions, cheetahs and
several other animals wonderful and beautiful; that should
really get your smutty mind fired up.

>> then she gave him hair.
>
>i hope you find god.

Well, if I do, I hope it's a long time in the future.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Gantlet - 27 Nov 2006 20:56 GMT
>>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> in both genders? That probably says a lot more about you
> than it does about me.

no problem with you thinking men are beautiful.  as long as you dont drop on
your knees infront of me you will keep your teeth.

>>> then she gave him hair.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> d&e, metformin 1000mg, EZETROL 10mg
> Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter

you dont have to die to find God,  I was just wishing
that God gives you your hair back.
at least when you go pick up your cholesterol medications
you dont also have to carry shampoo.

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> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
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Alan S - 28 Nov 2006 08:44 GMT
>>>"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>no problem with you thinking men are beautiful.  as long as you dont drop on
>your knees infront of me you will keep your teeth.

Homophobic preconception jokes and threats now?

Really Tom, how low you can go. Of course, you had the
opportunity to say g'day when I was in New York but never
got in contact; now that would have been an interesting
meeting indeed.

Someday I'll be there again. Wanna take a raincheck?

>>>> then she gave him hair.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>at least when you go pick up your cholesterol medications
>you dont also have to carry shampoo.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
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Gantlet - 28 Nov 2006 17:12 GMT
"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message > Really Tom,
how low you can go. Of course, you had the
> opportunity to say g'day when I was in New York but never
> got in contact; now that would have been an interesting
> meeting indeed.
>
> Someday I'll be there again. Wanna take a raincheck?

there is a kick boxing gym just a few blocks away.  i believe even a retired
cab driver can afford a work out.  we can work out together perhaps have a
match :).. all friendly of course :)
next time you come here .... its easy to find a computer to email me
Tom

>>>>> then she gave him hair.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
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Gantlet - 28 Nov 2006 17:34 GMT
"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Really Tom, how low you can go. Of course, you had the
> opportunity to say g'day when I was in New York but never
> got in contact; now that would have been an interesting
> meeting indeed.
>
> Someday I'll be there again. Wanna take a raincheck?

to meet you and just talk does not interest me at all.. however.

i had no way to contact you.  but all you had to do is going into a internet
cafe and post here.

would you care to be my sparring partner at a kick boxing club just a few
blocks away?
this is an invite Alan.. do you except?
of course you will have to sign papers saying you wont charge me for any
dental work that will accure.
i must say i am a little put off about actually getting into the ring with
someone as unhealthy and as old as you.  but after 4 years of you lol......
nuff said.
place your bets ladies and gents.. if Alan wants I will set it up so that it
wont be stopped until someone says.. I Give Up!!!

of course he can always back out.

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Ozgirl - 28 Nov 2006 20:47 GMT
> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> i must say i am a little put off about actually getting into the ring
> with someone as unhealthy and as old as you.  but after 4
years of
> you lol...... nuff said.
> place your bets ladies and gents.. if Alan wants I will set it up so
> that it wont be stopped until someone says.. I Give Up!!!
>
> of course he can always back out.

Hah, I have met Alan, he is not a weakling and his size, man
is he tall!
Alice Faber - 28 Nov 2006 21:01 GMT
> > "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in
> message
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Hah, I have met Alan, he is not a weakling and his size, man
> is he tall!

I would agree. He looks quite fit.

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Alan S - 28 Nov 2006 21:46 GMT
>> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in
>message
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>Hah, I have met Alan, he is not a weakling and his size, man
>is he tall!

But I'd be rather heavily outweighed (and I'm only 6' :-)
I've no intention of ever setting up a physical
confrontation - that's bloody nonsense. But I'd certainly be
prepared to meet face to face if the opportunity presented
itself.

If the other party is cowardly enough to attack a man at
least 50lbs lighter and 20 years older - then he'll have no
excuses for the consequences.

Tom's was a stupid and childish, but not unexpected,
response. Too much testosterone, too few little grey cells.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 28 Nov 2006 21:54 GMT
>>> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in
message

>>>> Really Tom, how low you can go. Of course, you had the
>>>> opportunity to say g'day when I was in New York but never
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>>
>>> to meet you and just talk does not interest me at all..
however.

>>> i had no way to contact you.  but all you had to do is
going into a
>>> internet cafe and post here.
>>>
>>> would you care to be my sparring partner at a kick
boxing club just
>>> a few blocks away?
>>> this is an invite Alan.. do you except?
>>> of course you will have to sign papers saying you wont
charge me for
>>> any dental work that will accure.
>>> i must say i am a little put off about actually getting
into the
>>> ring with someone as unhealthy and as old as you.  but
after 4
>>> years of you lol...... nuff said.
>>> place your bets ladies and gents.. if Alan wants I will
set it up so
>>> that it wont be stopped until someone says.. I Give Up!!!
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Tom's was a stupid and childish, but not unexpected,
> response. Too much testosterone, too few little grey cells.

I can't imagine anyone with a dicky back even wanting to
attempt kick boxing.
Chris Malcolm - 29 Nov 2006 09:09 GMT
>>> "Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in
>>message
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>>Hah, I have met Alan, he is not a weakling and his size, man
>>is he tall!

> But I'd be rather heavily outweighed (and I'm only 6' :-)
> I've no intention of ever setting up a physical
> confrontation - that's bloody nonsense.

> But I'd certainly be
> prepared to meet face to face if the opportunity presented
> itself.

> If the other party is cowardly enough to attack a man at
> least 50lbs lighter and 20 years older - then he'll have no
> excuses for the consequences.

You think someone who barks like a bruiser from behind the fence of
newsgroup anonymity would actually turn up in person? Hell, Alan, you
might even be carrying a weapon of <cough> mass </cough> photography
:-)

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Alan S - 29 Nov 2006 11:19 GMT
>> If the other party is cowardly enough to attack a man at
>> least 50lbs lighter and 20 years older - then he'll have no
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>might even be carrying a weapon of <cough> mass </cough> photography
>:-)

I was wondering when you were going to invite him up for
dinner - to the top of one of your climbs.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Gantlet - 28 Nov 2006 23:40 GMT
"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in message

> Hah, I have met Alan, he is not a weakling and his size, man
> is he tall!

is that Hah part of the jewish accent? or did you actually laugh?
Well anyway it appears Alan is in much worse shape then I thought.
He just explained to me how wrong it was of me to invite him to such an
event.  :(
i have to admit i do wish he wasnt smart enough to realize it :(.

damn i would have invited him for the best low carb dim sum
in manhattan afterwards :(..

Tom
Gantlet - 29 Nov 2006 16:03 GMT
"Alan S" <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Really Tom, how low you can go. Of course, you had the
> opportunity to say g'day when I was in New York but never
> got in contact; now that would have been an interesting
> meeting indeed.
>
> Someday I'll be there again. Wanna take a raincheck?

no matter how you double talk it Dr. Anal S.
you were not talking about 2 friends having a meeting and honest people
can see just what you meant.  All i did was welcome
and except it.  But I am done with it you and your friends for a while.
the subject has gotten off diabetes long ago.
Feel free to troll my posts all you want.

Tom
Chris Malcolm - 26 Nov 2006 13:00 GMT
> Chris Malcolm wrote in message
> <4ss49cF112gsoU1@mid.individual.net>...

>>So I posted a photo of myself. And of my bike, incidentally. Not a
>>patch on Tom's rather splendid bike. It's smaller, weaker, older, and
>>tattier. Just like me. But as a fellow biker I was giving Tom a
>>choice. He could strike up a friendly conversation based on our shared
>>enthusiasm for motorcycles. He could simply make no comment.  Or he
>>could take the opportunity to sneer at my physical appearance.

> I really do think it's unfortunate when people make negative comments on
> other posters pictures, especially when theirs is not there, but even if
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> when people take the time to post their pics. Where did you post the
> picture of you and your bike Chris?

Here, in this asd posting of about a fortnight ago:

http://tinyurl.com/ygfp78

There were a few photos there. For those who just want me and bike
here it is again:

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/Agassiz/agassizbike.JPG

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Cheri - 26 Nov 2006 14:54 GMT
I think the pics of your bike are very nice, and the scenery behind the
pics of the bike is really beautiful. Also, I don't think you look like
a 90 pound weakling at all, you look like you're close to a perfect
weight. Thanks for posting them. :-)
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>Here, in this asd posting of about a fortnight ago:
>
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TigerLily - 26 Nov 2006 22:04 GMT
nice set up to ride about on, Chris

thanks for sharing the pic with us :-)

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> > Chris Malcolm wrote in message
> > <4ss49cF112gsoU1@mid.individual.net>...
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> There were a few photos there. For those who just want me and bike
> here it is again:

http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/Agassiz/agassizbike.JPG
Gantlet - 27 Nov 2006 21:39 GMT
>I really do think it's unfortunate when people make negative comments on
> other posters pictures, especially when theirs is not there, but even if
> their picture was there, it would be still be unfortunate.

if someone insults me i will return that insult,
these days that isnt always true.  most honest people will say
that i ignore more insults than i return.
In my opinion are you not being really fare to Kurt, RK and myself lately.

While like Alan i am not going to insult you just because you talk to people
i dislike.  I just dont think you are being fare in your comments about who
is saying what and who is wrong or who is right..
Good Bye Cheri and good luck on your diabetic Journey.

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Cheri - 27 Nov 2006 22:50 GMT
Well Tom, you'll have to do what you have to do. As I've said many
times, I'm not taking sides, but I will comment on different posts in
the way I choose to comment. You should do the same.  I haven't been
uncivil to you, Kurt, or RK, whether I agree with some of your posts or
not, and you always have the option to read or not to read my posts. I'm
going to try not to be uncivil to anybody, but I will voice my opinion.

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Gantlet wrote in message ...

>While like Alan i am not going to insult you just because you talk to people
>i dislike.  I just dont think you are being fare in your comments about who
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>--
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Cheri - 26 Nov 2006 01:31 GMT
I am having a good start to the holiday season Tom, thanks for the good
wishes. I hope you're having a good time too, and that your work is
going well. :-)

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<67%9h.6093$IW2.1646@trndny03>...

>that.  Well anyway,, Kurt, RK and Cheri.. hope you are having a wonderful
>time this holiday season.  back to work for me..
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>
>www.TomsDiabeticDiary.com
Kurt - 24 Nov 2006 18:40 GMT
> > Yes exercise is good.
> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
>
> FFS, Tom - that is incredibly pathetic, even for you! FOUND it, indeed!

Why is it pathetic?  He's not selling anything and is developign a site
based on his personal experiences with diabetes. You don't seem to find
the others here who develop their diabetes sites "pathetic" when they
post a link to them, why single out Tom?  Never mind answering that, I
know the reason.

Hey, at least Tom doesn't pretend to be a doctor.  

Kurt
Alan S - 24 Nov 2006 21:26 GMT
>> > Yes exercise is good.
>> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
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>
>Kurt

Who does here, apart from Chung?

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Ozgirl - 24 Nov 2006 23:03 GMT
>>Hey, at least Tom doesn't pretend to be a doctor.
>>
>>Kurt
>
> Who does here, apart from Chung?

Lol, you know you will have opened the gate to let Chung
into this thread, don't you? :)
Alan S - 24 Nov 2006 23:56 GMT
>>>Hey, at least Tom doesn't pretend to be a doctor.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Lol, you know you will have opened the gate to let Chung
>into this thread, don't you? :)

Oops - apologies.

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Ozgirl - 24 Nov 2006 22:59 GMT
>> > Yes exercise is good.
>> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Why is it pathetic?  He's not selling anything and is developign a
> site based on his personal experiences with diabetes. You
don't seem
> to find the others here who develop their diabetes sites
"pathetic"
> when they post a link to them, why single out Tom?  Never
mind
> answering that, I know the reason.
>
> Hey, at least Tom doesn't pretend to be a doctor.
>
> Kurt

Actually I saw it as Tom having a joke. Like taking off the
people who come in here with an ID of ted@shopalot and say
they just found a wonderful website www.shopalot.com
Kurt - 24 Nov 2006 23:39 GMT
> >> > Yes exercise is good.
> >> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> people who come in here with an ID of ted@shopalot and say
> they just found a wonderful website www.shopalot.com

Yes, I know it was a joke.  Nicky attacked it...mainly because it was
Tom.  

Kurt
Nicky - 24 Nov 2006 23:46 GMT
>> > Yes exercise is good.
>> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Why is it pathetic?  He's not selling anything and is developign a site
> based on his personal experiences with diabetes.

Attempting to write a site is fine. Full of opportunities for him to
showcase his abilities.

Pretending to "find" it is just sad.

Nicky.

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Chris Malcolm - 25 Nov 2006 12:42 GMT
>>> > Yes exercise is good.
>>> > I found this great new site.  its not done yet but wow.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Why is it pathetic?  He's not selling anything and is developign a site
>> based on his personal experiences with diabetes.

> Attempting to write a site is fine. Full of opportunities for him to
> showcase his abilities.

> Pretending to "find" it is just sad.

He was parodying both those spammers who come here remarking about a
wonderful web-site they've just come across, and Alan, whose personal
web-site "spamming" he has often criticised. Tom hasn't the greatest
literary skills, but unlike Kurt he does have a good sense of humour
and is often ironic and sometimes parodic in his posts.

Aren't you a UK poster Nicky? You're letting the side down in not
spotting humour in a US posting! :-)

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Gantlet - 27 Nov 2006 01:12 GMT
"Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote in message
> Attempting to write a site is fine. Full of opportunities for him to
> showcase his abilities.
>
> Pretending to "find" it is just sad.
>
> Nicky.

lol and this is coming from someone that not only pretends to understand
medical reports but also writes them on web pages she reads but as she just
proved does not have what it takes to truely understand..

i wonder what was her clue that i didnt really just find the site?
was it that i have the URL in my sig for about a week? and that the site is
TOMS diabetic diary.com and my name happens to be tom? lol...
you cant make this stuff up.

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: Dear Ray

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korax1214@gmail.com - 22 Nov 2006 20:11 GMT
> > my blood sugar goes up
>
> Doesn't seem to have that effect on me, but the only pepsi I'll touch is
> pepsi-one.

Hmmm, we don't have that here in the UK, but we *do* have Diet Pepsi
and Pepsi Max (the latter is IMO the only diet cola worth drinking --
Diet Coke tastes like something more suitable for unblocking drains,
and indeed it probably would) -- I wonder if "Pepsi One" is the
equivalent of one of these...
Ozgirl - 22 Nov 2006 20:27 GMT
>> > my blood sugar goes up
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> and indeed it probably would) -- I wonder if "Pepsi One" is the
> equivalent of one of these...

Someone who had tried both Pepsi One and Pepsi Max once told
me tasted like the same drink. There is a new Diet Pepsi out
that I think beats the lot. Can't remember off hand what
it's called, Pepsi Light perhaps?
ray - 22 Nov 2006 20:59 GMT
>>> > my blood sugar goes up
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> that I think beats the lot. Can't remember off hand what
> it's called, Pepsi Light perhaps?

I've found pepsi-one and diet coke to be tolerable. Any others, I can't
handle the taste and aftertaste.
Alan S - 22 Nov 2006 21:27 GMT
>>> > my blood sugar goes up
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>that I think beats the lot. Can't remember off hand what
>it's called, Pepsi Light perhaps?

Try LA Ice. Well - Ozgirl can, korax can't.

I found that generic "diet" brands, all 'round the world,
tasted better to me and were also less gassy. Apart from
being a bloody sight cheaper.

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