UG!!! yeah, I'm starting to really HATE genetics LOL...

If anything if you can get your doctors to do a C-Peptide
test that will tell you much more and then you'll be able
to see which route you need to take.  I will say, thankfully
we now live in a time that has these tests available for us
to beg and demand from our doctors.

The C-Peptide is what we're using to determine Danni's
metformin dosage.  If it comes back with anything over
4, then she stays on the same dosage, if it's below, then
we'll drop her down to 1500mg a day instead of the 2000mg.

Thankfully she's not having any lows while taking it.. LOL and
get this... the doctor gave her extended release because she
was being lazy and only taking 500mg when she took her thyroid
med.. so she was skipping a 1/2 dose.. well the extended release
gives her the trotts!!!! LOL the reg doesn't... the doctor was laughing
at her telling her, "yep you are a strange one!"

kid can't take regular synthroid her TSH increases, where others need
it because generic doesn't work on them..
kid can't take extended release metformin gives her the runs.

what can I say.. we're ODD. :P

Kurt,
You clearly misunderstood what I was trying to say.  I felt logy, so I was
worried tht a possible reason coul dbe a high bg, which often makes me
feel logy, so I tested.  I got an extremely low number fo rme for 1 hour
pp. so decided the cause was something else, perhpas being underslept, so
I went to bed early.  

this is JUST THE OPPOSITE from what you thought i was saing.  I fail to
understand how you could have so misunderstood what I said.  I never said
that 108 was HIGH!!!!I was surprised at how low I was for that pp time, so
I knew my loginess was not bg related.  

Sometimes . when I have a cold or the sniffles I will feel "feverish" so I
take my temperature. If I have no high temperature, I know I am not
feverish just feeling lousy.  Same kind of thing and quite the ordinary
thing to do.  As a diabetic, if I don't feel right, the first thing I want
to do is to test to see if there is some bg problem going on, if there is
no bg problem, as was the case last night, I look for other possibilities,
like being just plain sleepy.  I would assume that most diabetics would do
the same.  

As ws the case with the misdiagnoses of my wet macular degeneration some
8-9 years ago, when diabetes was used to assume I had diabetic macular
edema, BY THE OPTHAMOLOGIST, NOT ME,  If something is wrong I don't assume
it is diabtic, but will check that possibility but not stop there.  Had I
had a high bg instead of the 108, I would have tried to do some moving
around or doing stuff with my arm weights or just figiting seriosly to try
to get the bg down, rahter than going to bed early.  You obciously, take
me for a moron.

Wendy

I made that rejoinder to a specific comment made by Hi Therre. It's
not the case, however, that I test infrequently because I have other
ways of knowing my BG. I simply test infrequently having established
by recent frequent testing that I'm in a stable and predictable period
with respect to BG, and I have better uses for the test strips than to
repeatedly confirm what I was already pretty sure about.

That was me. Sorry you didn't notice how I manage to do this. It's not
psychic or magic, it's a very simple accidental sensitivity I happen
to have just at this particular stage of my diabetes. I didn't have it
a year ago, and I may well not have it a year hence. Just now,
however, just as some rheumatic patients can sense barometric changes,
I can tell a BG of 140 by a specific feeling in the skin of my hands
which starts at that number. I have that specific sensitivty simply
because at the moment I'm just on the edge of neuropathy in my
hands. I used to have it in my hands, and it only recently
disappeared. Hence the special sensitivity.

Once again, however, that has nothing to do with my testing
infrequently. I merely mentioned it because it falisifed a sweeping
generalisation of Hi Therre's.

I think you have misunderstood my testing strategy. I do test as often
as possible. I carefully distribute my tests to get the maximum amount
of useful BG control and monitoring information from them. The way I
do that involves episodes of infrqunet testing followed by epsiodes of
extremely frequent testing. I learn more about my BG behaviour, and
can exert finer control, by using that method, than by testing on a
regular schedule of so many a day.

You seem to be arguing against someone who advocates testing
infrequently all the time. I don't recall anyone doing that. All those
I've seen mention infrequent testing in this thread seem to be doing
similar things to me, i.e. episodes of infrequent testing followed by
episodes of very frequent testing. If you have the kind of BG
behaviour which permits that (Hi Therre's brittle BG behaviour clearly
doesn't) then, done properly, it cab be a more informative use of the
same annual strips budget.

Damn Kurt, someone actually believed what I was trying to say.  You
cannot guess what the readings are, you have to test often to know the
sugars do.  Brilliant reasoning.  No man ever outsmarted diabetes, and
lived to tell about it.

Kurt...

I've been reading what a few are saying about being able to
"know" what they're bg's are just by how they feel.  Thinking
about it.. (watch I'll get hammered again) But it might be very
possible.. I wouldn't think it could happen to someone who's
recently been diagnosed or someone who never has had bg's
over 200 for a substained amount of time.. but I can see a few
that have been dx'd for over 5-10yrs and haven't had the best
of control since the start.

Then again, this might be another major difference between
T1's and T2's in how the disease progresses.  Remember we
T1's usually are diagnosed very quickly usually within 6mons
of onset and do not have any complications upon diagnosis.

Complications occur when bg's have ran high for several years
not days or months.  Otherwise, every diabetic would have at
least one or two complication upon diagnosis.  But perhaps it
gets to a point for T2's that have ran higher for 5-7yrs prior to
being diagnosed and have significant damage and they can tell
by neuropathy reaccuring at a certain level.

I do know there are some that have never hit even 200 and talk
like they're riddled with complications that appear when they
might hit over 100 and magically disappear below.  Those folks
I think are talking just to talk.  JMO.