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Gene - 25 Oct 2006 03:18 GMT Hello, all you good looking special folks.
This might just be a temporary unrelated instance - but I gave up eating peanuts and stopped drinking diet carbonated sodas and started eating Almonds and drinking a ton of green tea and using Olive oil a lot the last week.
The last three days the only reading above 100 is occasionally the morning reading and I'm eating more carbs! Every test I am amazed at the reading usually in the low 90's.
Is there such a thing as a remission for diabetes? Tomorrow I'm going to buy another meter just in case it's a meter failure. But this really has been a great few days even if it's a fluke.
Gene
Ray_Manor@hotmail.com - 25 Oct 2006 05:06 GMT > Hello, all you good looking special folks. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Gene A quickie you might consider, One Touch sells a calibration solution which you can use to confirm your units performance. Your meter may be similar.
Will, T2 - 25 Oct 2006 09:22 GMT >Is there such a thing as a remission for diabetes? Tomorrow I'm going to >buy another meter just in case it's a meter failure. But this really has >been a great few days even if it's a fluke. Hi Gene,
Sounds like you have hit on a good plan that works for you, and you have achieved great contol. Congratulations!
Sorry, though, I think you are still a diabetic, like all the rest of us :-( Hate to rain on your party....
Glad to hear you are doing OK these days.
Will, T2
Gene - 25 Oct 2006 18:01 GMT >>Is there such a thing as a remission for diabetes? Tomorrow I'm going to >>buy another meter just in case it's a meter failure. But this really has [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will, T2 Doing great Will Here's hoping one of the few remaining gentlemen is also doing fine.
Dang, no remission!! :)
You know I have a feeling this disease is smart enough to need a constant reevaluation of each 'plan'.
But it is nice to win a couple of battles now and then.
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Will, T2 - 26 Oct 2006 00:21 GMT >You know I have a feeling this disease is smart enough to need a constant >reevaluation of each 'plan'. > >But it is nice to win a couple of battles now and then. Well, Gene, as they say... every day is a new battle....
I sure hope you are warmer down in Georgia than we have been up here.... For the seccond day in a row, it has been in the 30s here.
Keep your powder dry, and stay warm!
Will, T2
Gene - 26 Oct 2006 01:38 GMT >>You know I have a feeling this disease is smart enough to need a >>constant reevaluation of each 'plan'. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 high 30's to low 60's - rainy, damp, humid. Typical Georgia weather for fall
Will, if this election goes the wrong way ... dry powder may be more important that we both think.
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Alan S - 25 Oct 2006 10:19 GMT >Hello, all you good looking special folks. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Gene Are you taking any meds? If so, when did you start them?
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Menton Memories
Gene - 25 Oct 2006 18:35 GMT >>Hello, all you good looking special folks. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ > latest: Menton Memories I was Dx'd in Oct 2005 with Bgs over 600. I began using Novolog of 100+ units a day when I got my Bgs down below 200 in January of 2006 the endo put me on 10 Units of Lantus and I was still using about 60 units of Novolog for meals.
The Lantus went up to 13 units and the Novolog became only when I ate the occasional higher carb meal overtime.
The Lantus is back to 10 units and I quit having to use Novolog for any meals and the last three days my Bg's rarely go above 100.
The next time I reduce Lantus it will be to zero and that will put me on diet and exercise.
By the way the, the 10 units of Lantus causes slight lows 60-80 at 3am and are accompanied with a fine head ache and a wake up call. So I'm thinkling it will be soon that I go to diet and exercise.
My stomach is finally healing, 20 lbs of insulin fat is gone and my energy level is through the roof.
It's been a grand last couple of weeks and a super last three days.
I brought a new Flash (Free again at Walgreens) and its reading about the same.
How are you doing Alan? Your travel log was really enjoyable. It reminded me of what I wanted to be doing.
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Alan S - 25 Oct 2006 22:55 GMT >>>Hello, all you good looking special folks. >>> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >Your travel log was really enjoyable. It reminded me of what I wanted to >be doing. Hi Gene
(That sounds so clean - I talk to a lady on the ADA forum named Jeanne and have the same mental reaction when I type hi Jeanne:-)
Glad to see you're doing so well. I suspect that it's more to do with cumulative total lifestyle changes and the insulin than with giving up "eating peanuts and stopped drinking diet carbonated sodas and started eating Almonds and drinking a ton of green tea and using Olive oil a lot the last week"
Of course, most of that is good anyway; although I have no problem with diet sodas.
I used to occasionally drink green tea, but for my other affliction, not the T2. Maybe I should take it up again.
Thanks for the blog comment. It's been an intersting experience. I'm experimenting and just added Ads; I'm already planning a "Pyramids" trip to Easter Island, Peru, Yucatan and Egypt and have to pay for it somehow:-) The first thing I noticed was that I have no control over which ads appear - so it's a bit disconcerting when things appear that I disagree with; I now understand how David Mendosa and others end up with ads for diabetes cures on their sites when they obviously don't support them.
Anyway - whether it's green tea or almonds or just discipline - it's obviously working so keep doing what you're doing!
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Museum Musings
Anil - 26 Oct 2006 01:08 GMT Gene,
Congratulation on your good results. As some one who is self described Peanut addict I must say I fee sorry you depart with such bitter taste. You should absolutely keep doing what you are doing as long as it works for you but I find it hard to accept blame those bloody peanuts part
:-). I still eat plenty of peanuts (1-2 cups a day) about a cup of almonds and walnut combo. As I said before I soak the peanuts with the skin intact and munch on them whole day as often as I feel I need to. Never hesitating one bit. I do have huge servings of salad greens and at least 6-7 colors in raw vegetables in my dinner.
Like you I too have been staying under 110 for most part. my meter tells me that my 14 day avg is 95 and I take at least 6 readings a day. I sure don't see any spikes. I drink regular tea 4-5 cups a day.
I take Metfomin alone. 500 mgx2. So in effect I am NIDDM. My trig /HDL ratio is 1.76 and my BP is most of the time 95-100/65-70. I do brisk walk about 6 miles a day.
My reason for elaborating is that Peanut is one of the very good cheap food out there that most diabetes can eat as long as they have no allergy issues. It is an excellent supply Most don't realize that it can be soaked in water and it becomes out right delicious. If you insist on making it salty you can can add a pinch of salt on a cup full of soaked Peanuts (soaked for at least 4 hrs) and microwave them for 4-5 min. The more you microwave the crispier they get. Bingo you have one heck of snack food. Almost no effect on your BG! You not only get great proteins but you also have a wonderful source of Phytosterols (62.3 mg) and MUFA (7 mg). Only Macadamia nuts exceed this but at a price!
I know you had a few issues with peanuts by going for off the shell factory processed ones. At least for others I don't want them to walk away thinking there is some thing wrong with peanuts. If anything there is plenty right about them as long as you don't go for the off the shelf kind. Do some homework and you will be amply rewarded. At least I am.
Cheers,
Anil
Gene - 26 Oct 2006 01:49 GMT "Anil" <navkal@gmail.com> wrote in news:1161821292.374121.297670 @i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Gene, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for you but I find it hard to accept blame those bloody peanuts part >:-). I have a touch of Gout and a jar of peanut habit was killing my elbow - so I had to stop.
I do miss the little suckers.
> I still eat plenty of peanuts (1-2 cups a day) about a cup of almonds > and walnut combo. As I said before I soak the peanuts with the skin > intact and munch on them whole day as often as I feel I need to. Never > hesitating one bit. I do have huge servings of salad greens and at > least 6-7 colors in raw vegetables in my dinner. That is what I need to do but I just convienently forget to eat any veggies most days. Until my wife hog ties me and forces me to eat a plate of plants.
> Like you I too have been staying under 110 for most part. my meter > tells me that my 14 day avg is 95 and I take at least 6 readings a day. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > ratio is 1.76 and my BP is most of the time 95-100/65-70. I do brisk > walk about 6 miles a day. For me to walk 6 miles a day there would have to be a very pretty gal in front. I do 2-3 miles 3 days a week and do weights the other two days then take the weekends off.
> My reason for elaborating is that Peanut is one of the very good cheap > food out there that most diabetes can eat as long as they have no [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Anil I wrote the peanut folks and told them how their nuts got me through the first couple of months of being diabetic. Thank goodness it was a female that answered:)
How do you soak them? In just tap water? Is it the raw peanuts?
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Anil - 26 Oct 2006 02:36 GMT > That is what I need to do but I just conveniently forget to eat any > veggies most days. Until my wife hog ties me and forces me to eat a plate > of plants. With all the LC/Non-LC diet wars eating rather large portions of Veggies seems to have survived quite intact. So I am sorry I am of not much help here for you other than tighten the hog tie :-). I always liked them but then I ate them like a man. Now I go after them like a wild cow!
> For me to walk 6 miles a day there would have to be a very pretty gal in > front. I do 2-3 miles 3 days a week and do weights the other two days > then take the weekends off. Hmmm Why I did not think of that as an excuse to tell my wife? But then again having returned to a better shape than I was when I was 25, I am not sure I need additional bait :-).
> I wrote the peanut folks and told them how their nuts got me through the > first couple of months of being diabetic. Thank goodness it was a female > that answered:) You wouldn't happen to have her extn right? :->
> How do you soak them? In just tap water? Is it the raw peanuts? Yes tap water is perfect. You do need to start with the raw peanuts though. They look some thing like this: http://tinyurl.com/yhoxvn
Cheers!
Anil
Gene - 26 Oct 2006 13:44 GMT >> That is what I need to do but I just conveniently forget to eat any >> veggies most days. Until my wife hog ties me and forces me to eat a [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Anil Pleasure talking with you Anil. Great comebacks. Hard to find folks with a great sense of humor these days.
Thanks for the peanut pointers - I'll give it a try. I was going to months and months ago when I first heard this from you but I forgot.
I think I'll have my wife out that on my head stone - "He Forgot"
Take Care
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Gene - 26 Oct 2006 01:26 GMT >>>>Hello, all you good looking special folks. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > named Jeanne and have the same mental reaction when I type > hi Jeanne:-) Yep, but it does get annoying when everything these days is blamed on Genes.
> Glad to see you're doing so well. I suspect that it's more > to do with cumulative total lifestyle changes and the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > already planning a "Pyramids" trip to Easter Island, Peru, > Yucatan and Egypt and have to pay for it somehow:-) I'm lucky me and my wife can travel free on military aircraft. That saves the airfare. It's a bit inconvienent but a neat way to bum around the globe. I used it a couple of times to play golf in Southern California during the winter.
Keep taking picture and having fun Alan.
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> first thing I noticed was that I have no control over which > ads appear - so it's a bit disconcerting when things appear > that I disagree with; I now understand how David Mendosa and > others end up with ads for diabetes cures on their sites > when they obviously don't support them. Welcome to runaway capitalism.
> Anyway - whether it's green tea or almonds or just > discipline - it's obviously working so keep doing what > you're doing! I'm trying.
How about this about three hours ago I ate a full bag of buttered popcorn and My Bg stayed below 100. I just checked it and it was 94.
Is that wild or what?
That's 40 grams of carbs according to the box. That would have normally put me at 150-160 and I'd have needed 7 units of Novolog to counteract it.
Instead it's had almost no effect.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > -- > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ > latest: Museum Musings
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Alan S - 26 Oct 2006 02:42 GMT >How about this about three hours ago I ate a full bag of buttered popcorn >and My Bg stayed below 100. I just checked it and it was 94. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop. I've had a similar experience lately with my dinner. After a lot of experimentation I've settled on breakfast (when I remember to) and dinner (evening meal to some) for my twice daily metformin dose.
A few weeks ago I had one of those "bugger it!" days and ate half a large pizza for dinner; I fully expected to go over 10(180) - but I just nudged 7.5(135). So, about once a week since then I've experimented in the evening - a slice of cake, or some spuds with dinner - nothing startling but more carbs than I'm used to. And the results have been great - mainly under 7(126), often under 6.5(117) at one hour.
I'm not going to go overboard though, at least not until the next A1c check.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1000mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ latest: Museum Musings
Gene - 26 Oct 2006 13:39 GMT >>How about this about three hours ago I ate a full bag of buttered >>popcorn and My Bg stayed below 100. I just checked it and it was 94. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/ > latest: Museum Musings Exactly what I am seeing. I think it's worth investigating further.
I don't know if I'm up to half a large pizza yet:)
I'd classify that as worthy of ...........
'The Award of the Silver Sugar Cookie' for "Courage in the face of the enemy reflecting great credit upon Alan, Austrailia, and the ASD."
Flaunt it proudly:)
Take Care, Gene
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Loretta Eisenberg - 26 Oct 2006 01:15 GMT Gene, as I am sure the others have told you, there is no remission for diabetes. Perhaps you have better control or maybe there is some magic to the green tea. I think I will go and have me some now. Sorry to tell you that once a diabetic always a diabetic, but if you live by the rules, you can live as long as anyone else.
Loretta
-- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
Gene - 26 Oct 2006 01:59 GMT Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:11102-453FFE3E-25 @storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net:
> Gene, as I am sure the others have told you, there is no remission for > diabetes. Perhaps you have better control or maybe there is some magic [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Not good enough. I need to live long enough to insure my nitwit kids don't screw up my grandchildren and make sure my wife is to old to go looking for some nitwit to replace the nitwit she has now.
I figure 2050 will be a good year to leave. I'll be 100 and she'll be 87 and the the grand kids will be well launched.
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