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What effect does *normal* activity have on BG?

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MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 01:31 GMT
I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after discussing
exactly what was required, I would say it was more like "2 weeks of relax
and take it easy."  I had had laser surgery for a tear in the retina, and
there was a tiny area that was detached behind the tear.  The rest was to
provide for good healing and reduce any possibility of a detached retina.  I
was not permitted to go to work, read, or use the computer during that time
but I was permitted to watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not
track the screen on a TV as they do when reading).

Here's my question.  I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various times.
However, my readings increased substantially (with a high of 132 after one
meal -- the first time it has been that high in 2 years).  That was the
highest, but the BG in general went up to an average of close to 120.  I ate
exactly the same food during that time, but I obviously was not getting any
normal type of activity and was getting *lots* of rest.  Is this what would
normally be expected?  I made dramatic changes in my diet when I was
diagnoxed T2 in May 2004 but unfortunately still have not gotten into an
exercise routine, so this was simply a reduction from ordinary levels of
activity.  As soon as the required "low level" of activity ended, by BG went
back to its normal average of 96.

MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 03:26 GMT
: I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after discussing
: exactly what was required, I would say it was more like "2 weeks of relax
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: but I was permitted to watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not
: track the screen on a TV as they do when reading).

: Here's my question.  I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various times.
: However, my readings increased substantially (with a high of 132 after one
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: activity.  As soon as the required "low level" of activity ended, by BG went
: back to its normal average of 96.

: MaryL

I think that not doing just normal activity, getting up, going to work,
doing some light housework, shopping at the supermarket, etc, all
light exercise cann make a difference.  If you are just flopping arond the
house couch potatoing you use vvery little energy and your muscles get
little use.  If you have to be tht inactive, try reducing yru carbs a bit
for that period of time if you want to keep your bg's down.

Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 04:00 GMT
> : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
> discussing
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>
> Wendy

Actually, the period of "bed rest" is over, so this was a question posed out
of curiosity because there was such a noticeable difference.  I already
watch my carbs and eat *no* flour, pasta, rice, potatoes, or added sugar --  
so a reduction in carbs would have to come from the fresh fruit and veggies
(primarily veggies) that I eat.  I know many people have to go that route,
but I was surprised to see so much difference so quickly.

MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 17:58 GMT
: > : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
: > discussing
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: >
: > Wendy

: Actually, the period of "bed rest" is over, so this was a question posed out
: of curiosity because there was such a noticeable difference.  I already
: watch my carbs and eat *no* flour, pasta, rice, potatoes, or added sugar --  
: so a reduction in carbs would have to come from the fresh fruit and veggies
: (primarily veggies) that I eat.  I know many people have to go that route,
: but I was surprised to see so much difference so quickly.

: MaryL

Another  possibility during a period of inactivity, would be anincrease of
some sorts in your meds, either  ahigher dose, or a new med, like a short
acting beta cell pushere like Starlix or Prandin to cover the carbs in
your fruits and veggies dor the period of inactivity.  Notice tht susan,
who must be fairly inactive, lives on 1,000 calories ad ay.  that might
also work, just cutting back the amunt of food and  calories you usually
consume.  

Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 18:50 GMT
> : > : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
> : > discussing
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>
> Wendy

There was no change in medication because the bed rest was related to eye
surgery (tear in the retina) and was only intended to protect the eye during
the healing process.  As a matter of fact, I have not needed to take *any*
medication for diabetes since March 2005 because my BG was controlled
through change in diet (BG average of 96).  The only prescriptions I have
are for high blood pressure (dosage cut in half under doctor's orders some
time ago because my pressure dropped *too* much after I changed my diet and
lost weight), an iron pill (anemia), and an allergy pill that is *rarely*
needed. So, the sudden increase took me by surprise.  On the other hand, it
dropped just as quickly as soon as the 2 weeks of inactivity ended.

Thanks,
MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 19:49 GMT
: > : > I think that not doing just normal activity, getting up, going to
: > work,
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: >
: > Wendy

: There was no change in medication because the bed rest was related to eye
: surgery (tear in the retina) and was only intended to protect the eye during
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: needed. So, the sudden increase took me by surprise.  On the other hand, it
: dropped just as quickly as soon as the 2 weeks of inactivity ended.

: Thanks,
: MaryL

Mary,

I am only trying to answer you question about whether inactivity could
lead to hight bg's and what can be done about it, if this is so.  It is
descrptive of wnt can be one, not prescriptive for you.  Had you had a
very high increase, to levels you thought were not acceptable, there are
these couple of things tht you could have done, or tht anyone in the same
situation could have done. It does not reflect on your ability , undr
normal activity situations, to control with diet alone, nor does it
reflect on your character that the bgs went up.  

Many peole read these threads and posts and others lern from wht is
written in response to someone else's question.

Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 20:14 GMT
> : > Another  possibility during a period of inactivity, would be
> anincrease of
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>
> Wendy

Thanks, Wendy.  Apparently I sounded defensive, but I did not intend it that
way -- I really appreciated the feedback.  I was simply trying to respond by
giving still more information, but I did not interpret your message as being
challenging or intrusive in any way.  I absolutely agree that we can learn
from these messages.  In fact, I have learned more from this newsgroup than
from my doctor.  We need to filter through a variety of responses, but the
people on this group are remarkably helpful, and often very knowledgeable.

MaryL
W. Baker - 23 Oct 2006 01:57 GMT
: > : > Another  possibility during a period of inactivity, would be
: > anincrease of
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: >
: > Wendy

: Thanks, Wendy.  Apparently I sounded defensive, but I did not intend it that
: way -- I really appreciated the feedback.  I was simply trying to respond by
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: from my doctor.  We need to filter through a variety of responses, but the
: people on this group are remarkably helpful, and often very knowledgeable.

: MaryL

Glad we're on the same wave-length.  

Wendy
Michelle - 22 Oct 2006 19:51 GMT
>> : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
>> discussing
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>
> MaryL

Hi Mary,

Not in answer to your question, but I want to thank you for posting your
experience.  Since I found my BG problem in Nov 2005, I've had no forced
periods of inactivity.  It is interesting to know how much difference it can
make.  My daily walks are very ingrained, but this bit of information will
definitely keep the motivation going.

Your diet mirrors my own, but after my evening meal, which is the largest, I
move into the 130 range at 1 hr.  Breakfast and lunch are usually at 120 or
below.  I know the difference is simply the quantity of a food I eat at
supper time--something I want to address eventually.  In any case, it sounds
like your diet is doing very well for you since you have no "official"
exercise program and your numbers stay so low.  Wonderful!
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Ozgirl - 22 Oct 2006 04:54 GMT
> I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
> discussing exactly what was required, I would say it was
more like "2
> weeks of relax and take it easy."  I had had laser surgery
for a tear
> in the retina, and there was a tiny area that was detached
behind the
> tear.  The rest was to provide for good healing and reduce
any
> possibility of a detached retina.  I was not permitted to
go to work,
> read, or use the computer during that time but I was
permitted to
> watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not track
the screen
> on a TV as they do when reading).
>
> Here's my question.  I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various
> times. However, my readings increased substantially (with
a high of
> 132 after one meal -- the first time it has been that high
in 2
> years).  That was the highest, but the BG in general went
up to an
> average of close to 120.  I ate exactly the same food
during that
> time, but I obviously was not getting any normal type of
activity and
> was getting *lots* of rest.  Is this what would normally
be expected?

Absolutely. The way of eating that I decided upon was one
that in it's basic form could see me successfully through
illness or forced slothiness :) It had enough leeway (and
enough of the necessary nutrients) where I could add carbs
for differing levels of movement and still not spike.
Loretta Eisenberg - 22 Oct 2006 19:52 GMT
I wonder Mary if while you were bed resting you werent having more
snacks than usual.  Somehow in activity and food seem to go together for
me.  Did you eat more without realizing it.

Loretta

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MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT
>I wonder Mary if while you were bed resting you werent having more
> snacks than usual.  Somehow in activity and food seem to go together for
> me.  Did you eat more without realizing it.
>
> Loretta

I don't think so, but that's always a possibility -- and, of course, I
*certainly* would have burned off *fewer* calories (which could have the
same result).

Thanks,
MaryL
Roger Zoul - 22 Oct 2006 21:13 GMT
Of course normal activity and bed rest will result in different BG levels on
the same food.  If you do bed rest, you should need to eat less (assuming
you're not typically a slug), or if you eat the same amounts and the same
types of foods (and the same carb levels) then you should expect to see an
increase in BG.

:: I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after
:: discussing exactly what was required, I would say it was more like
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:: MaryL
 
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