Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2006
What effect does *normal* activity have on BG?
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MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 01:31 GMT I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after discussing exactly what was required, I would say it was more like "2 weeks of relax and take it easy." I had had laser surgery for a tear in the retina, and there was a tiny area that was detached behind the tear. The rest was to provide for good healing and reduce any possibility of a detached retina. I was not permitted to go to work, read, or use the computer during that time but I was permitted to watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not track the screen on a TV as they do when reading).
Here's my question. I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various times. However, my readings increased substantially (with a high of 132 after one meal -- the first time it has been that high in 2 years). That was the highest, but the BG in general went up to an average of close to 120. I ate exactly the same food during that time, but I obviously was not getting any normal type of activity and was getting *lots* of rest. Is this what would normally be expected? I made dramatic changes in my diet when I was diagnoxed T2 in May 2004 but unfortunately still have not gotten into an exercise routine, so this was simply a reduction from ordinary levels of activity. As soon as the required "low level" of activity ended, by BG went back to its normal average of 96.
MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 03:26 GMT : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after discussing : exactly what was required, I would say it was more like "2 weeks of relax [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : but I was permitted to watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not : track the screen on a TV as they do when reading).
: Here's my question. I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various times. : However, my readings increased substantially (with a high of 132 after one [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : activity. As soon as the required "low level" of activity ended, by BG went : back to its normal average of 96.
: MaryL I think that not doing just normal activity, getting up, going to work, doing some light housework, shopping at the supermarket, etc, all light exercise cann make a difference. If you are just flopping arond the house couch potatoing you use vvery little energy and your muscles get little use. If you have to be tht inactive, try reducing yru carbs a bit for that period of time if you want to keep your bg's down.
Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 04:00 GMT > : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after > discussing [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Wendy Actually, the period of "bed rest" is over, so this was a question posed out of curiosity because there was such a noticeable difference. I already watch my carbs and eat *no* flour, pasta, rice, potatoes, or added sugar -- so a reduction in carbs would have to come from the fresh fruit and veggies (primarily veggies) that I eat. I know many people have to go that route, but I was surprised to see so much difference so quickly.
MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 17:58 GMT : > : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after : > discussing [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] : > : > Wendy
: Actually, the period of "bed rest" is over, so this was a question posed out : of curiosity because there was such a noticeable difference. I already : watch my carbs and eat *no* flour, pasta, rice, potatoes, or added sugar -- : so a reduction in carbs would have to come from the fresh fruit and veggies : (primarily veggies) that I eat. I know many people have to go that route, : but I was surprised to see so much difference so quickly.
: MaryL Another possibility during a period of inactivity, would be anincrease of some sorts in your meds, either ahigher dose, or a new med, like a short acting beta cell pushere like Starlix or Prandin to cover the carbs in your fruits and veggies dor the period of inactivity. Notice tht susan, who must be fairly inactive, lives on 1,000 calories ad ay. that might also work, just cutting back the amunt of food and calories you usually consume.
Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 18:50 GMT > : > : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after > : > discussing [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > Wendy There was no change in medication because the bed rest was related to eye surgery (tear in the retina) and was only intended to protect the eye during the healing process. As a matter of fact, I have not needed to take *any* medication for diabetes since March 2005 because my BG was controlled through change in diet (BG average of 96). The only prescriptions I have are for high blood pressure (dosage cut in half under doctor's orders some time ago because my pressure dropped *too* much after I changed my diet and lost weight), an iron pill (anemia), and an allergy pill that is *rarely* needed. So, the sudden increase took me by surprise. On the other hand, it dropped just as quickly as soon as the 2 weeks of inactivity ended.
Thanks, MaryL
W. Baker - 22 Oct 2006 19:49 GMT : > : > I think that not doing just normal activity, getting up, going to : > work, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] : > : > Wendy
: There was no change in medication because the bed rest was related to eye : surgery (tear in the retina) and was only intended to protect the eye during [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : needed. So, the sudden increase took me by surprise. On the other hand, it : dropped just as quickly as soon as the 2 weeks of inactivity ended.
: Thanks, : MaryL Mary,
I am only trying to answer you question about whether inactivity could lead to hight bg's and what can be done about it, if this is so. It is descrptive of wnt can be one, not prescriptive for you. Had you had a very high increase, to levels you thought were not acceptable, there are these couple of things tht you could have done, or tht anyone in the same situation could have done. It does not reflect on your ability , undr normal activity situations, to control with diet alone, nor does it reflect on your character that the bgs went up.
Many peole read these threads and posts and others lern from wht is written in response to someone else's question.
Wendy
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 20:14 GMT > : > Another possibility during a period of inactivity, would be > anincrease of [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Wendy Thanks, Wendy. Apparently I sounded defensive, but I did not intend it that way -- I really appreciated the feedback. I was simply trying to respond by giving still more information, but I did not interpret your message as being challenging or intrusive in any way. I absolutely agree that we can learn from these messages. In fact, I have learned more from this newsgroup than from my doctor. We need to filter through a variety of responses, but the people on this group are remarkably helpful, and often very knowledgeable.
MaryL
W. Baker - 23 Oct 2006 01:57 GMT : > : > Another possibility during a period of inactivity, would be : > anincrease of [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] : > : > Wendy
: Thanks, Wendy. Apparently I sounded defensive, but I did not intend it that : way -- I really appreciated the feedback. I was simply trying to respond by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : from my doctor. We need to filter through a variety of responses, but the : people on this group are remarkably helpful, and often very knowledgeable.
: MaryL Glad we're on the same wave-length.
Wendy
Michelle - 22 Oct 2006 19:51 GMT >> : I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after >> discussing [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > MaryL Hi Mary,
Not in answer to your question, but I want to thank you for posting your experience. Since I found my BG problem in Nov 2005, I've had no forced periods of inactivity. It is interesting to know how much difference it can make. My daily walks are very ingrained, but this bit of information will definitely keep the motivation going.
Your diet mirrors my own, but after my evening meal, which is the largest, I move into the 130 range at 1 hr. Breakfast and lunch are usually at 120 or below. I know the difference is simply the quantity of a food I eat at supper time--something I want to address eventually. In any case, it sounds like your diet is doing very well for you since you have no "official" exercise program and your numbers stay so low. Wonderful!
 Signature Michelle, T2 diet & exercise
Ozgirl - 22 Oct 2006 04:54 GMT > I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after > discussing exactly what was required, I would say it was more like "2
> weeks of relax and take it easy." I had had laser surgery for a tear
> in the retina, and there was a tiny area that was detached behind the
> tear. The rest was to provide for good healing and reduce any
> possibility of a detached retina. I was not permitted to go to work,
> read, or use the computer during that time but I was permitted to
> watch TV (the difference being that the eyes do not track the screen
> on a TV as they do when reading). > > Here's my question. I average 96 BG, with readings taken at various > times. However, my readings increased substantially (with a high of
> 132 after one meal -- the first time it has been that high in 2
> years). That was the highest, but the BG in general went up to an
> average of close to 120. I ate exactly the same food during that
> time, but I obviously was not getting any normal type of activity and
> was getting *lots* of rest. Is this what would normally be expected?
Absolutely. The way of eating that I decided upon was one that in it's basic form could see me successfully through illness or forced slothiness :) It had enough leeway (and enough of the necessary nutrients) where I could add carbs for differing levels of movement and still not spike.
Loretta Eisenberg - 22 Oct 2006 19:52 GMT I wonder Mary if while you were bed resting you werent having more snacks than usual. Somehow in activity and food seem to go together for me. Did you eat more without realizing it.
Loretta
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MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT >I wonder Mary if while you were bed resting you werent having more > snacks than usual. Somehow in activity and food seem to go together for > me. Did you eat more without realizing it. > > Loretta I don't think so, but that's always a possibility -- and, of course, I *certainly* would have burned off *fewer* calories (which could have the same result).
Thanks, MaryL
Roger Zoul - 22 Oct 2006 21:13 GMT Of course normal activity and bed rest will result in different BG levels on the same food. If you do bed rest, you should need to eat less (assuming you're not typically a slug), or if you eat the same amounts and the same types of foods (and the same carb levels) then you should expect to see an increase in BG.
:: I recently was ordered to have 2 weeks of bed rest -- well, after :: discussing exactly what was required, I would say it was more like [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] :: :: MaryL
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