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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2003Yipee! I don't need a statin!
Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a rise in the total cholesterol but my triglycerides went down and my HDL went up. Everything looks great so I don't have to take the statins. Whew! A1c was 5.6 this time. One year in the 5% club! c July total chol 123 Trigs 68 LDL 48 HDL 61 Chol/HDL ratio 2 Oct. total chol 161 trigs 57 LDL 87 HDL 63 chol/trigs 2.6 Good for you, nice job. Now go and have some nice Fried Cheese Curds! Just Kidding. It's that fine Wisc. bread. 8))  Signature-- t2_lurking geabbottATabbottandabbottDOTcom Do not mail to t2_lurking (auto-delete) ============================ Well, i dreamed i saw the silver Space ships flying In the yellow haze of the sun -- Neil Young -- > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > HDL 63 > chol/trigs 2.6 > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > HDL 63 > chol/trigs 2.6 Great numbers. What were they before you started the statin? SignatureK'neH'a'Iw Uncloaking, Shields up. > > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > Great numbers. What were they before you started the statin? Total chol 251 trigs 242 LDL 166 HDL 37 chol/hdl ratio 6.8 Those were in Oct of '02. c >>>July >>>total chol 123 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Those were in Oct of '02. > c Maybe there's hope for me yet. Before I started Lipator my total was higher but the HDL was also higher and the Trigs lower. What did you do to keep it low after you went of the statin? SignatureK'neH'a'Iw Uncloaking, Shields up. I didn't change anything after I went off the statin. The statin probably knocked my numbers low enough and now that I have the BG under control, the cholesterol also stays in check. c > >>>July > >>>total chol 123 [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > higher but the HDL was also higher and the Trigs lower. What did you do > to keep it low after you went of the statin? > I didn't change anything after I went off the statin. The statin probably > knocked my numbers low enough and now that I have the BG under control, the > cholesterol also stays in check. > c It will be interesting to see if it starts to go back up after a while. I hope not. I've been taking Lipator for just over a month and am supposed to go get checked up in about another month. I'll see what happens. I may start eating carrots 3 time a day. SignatureK'neH'a'Iw Uncloaking, Shields up. I'm not expecting it to go up. I haven't changed my WOE of eating the whole time so I think it will be fine. If it goes up again, then I'll have to do something. c > > I didn't change anything after I went off the statin. The statin probably > > knocked my numbers low enough and now that I have the BG under control, the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > supposed to go get checked up in about another month. I'll see what > happens. I may start eating carrots 3 time a day. >I didn't change anything after I went off the statin. The statin probably >knocked my numbers low enough and now that I have the BG under control, the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> higher but the HDL was also higher and the Trigs lower. What did you do >> to keep it low after you went of the statin? Okay, colour me green with envy. Impressive figures. Would you like to pass on your secrets of diet, meds, exercise for us mere mortals trying to catch up? Always willing to learn from an expert. Congratulations. Cheers Alan, T2, Oz -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Okay, colour me green with envy. Impressive figures. Would you like to > pass on your secrets of diet, meds, exercise for us mere mortals [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Lotsa olive oil, almonds, nuts, whole grains. Lotsa fish and fowl. Some red meat. Truckloads of fresh veggies and some low GI fruits. Walk every day weather permitting. I take metformin and Prandin, prn. I keep my a1c's in the 5% range. Otherwise, no magic potions. Oh, I also lost about 45 pounds. You gonna buy my book when it comes out? <VBG> c >> Okay, colour me green with envy. Impressive figures. Would you like to >> pass on your secrets of diet, meds, exercise for us mere mortals [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] ><VBG> >c Definitely! How about a collaboration from us all? The a.s.d "How to live a long life with Type 2 Diabetes"? And of course a T1 book from the other half. The combined knowledge here is awesome; particularly because of the cross-fertilisation from different cultures and national methods of treatment and support. Trouble is we'd never agree on the title, or the foreward, let alone the contents. But imagine if we could..... *sigh* Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >> Trouble is we'd never agree on the title, or the foreward, let alone > the contents. > > But imagine if we could..... > *sigh* We'd have to have a really good gimmick. The ASD OT Troll post-off-the-wall-diet? c > Cheers Alan, T2, Oz > dx May 2002, diet and exercise. > -- > Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>> Trouble is we'd never agree on the title, or the foreward, let alone >> the contents. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >The ASD OT Troll post-off-the-wall-diet? >c Our combined one would be something really short and catchy: "The test-test-test, eat less more often, drink red wine, low-carb, low saturated fat, no trans fats, lotsa olive oil, moderate protein, beans, almonds, nuts, whole grains, fish, fowl, some red meat, truckloads of fresh veggies, low GI fruits, exercise every day, minimise meds, lose weight and live longer with T2 diet". Or how about just that last bit: "Live longer with T2". That's the bit I like. Cheers Alan, T2, Oz dx May 2002, diet and exercise. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Colleen, you are doing fab u lous. One less pill to go through the liver is great news. Your numbers are still good without the meds. How do you get such low tris. I am jealous. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. I don't know how I get my trigs so low. I exercise use lotsa olive and canola oil, eat lotsa almonds and a low sat fat diet. Otherwise, I'm perfect. <VBG> c > Colleen, you are doing fab u lous. One less pill to go through the > liver is great news. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Great results Colleen. I'm sure you're very pleased, and I'm pleased for you. :-) -- Cheri Colleen <{oopsh_5@hotmail.com}> wrote in message ... >Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of >muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >HDL 63 >chol/trigs 2.6 It's funny. I've had really good control for a year, I keep my diet and exercise consistant and I still worry about my A1c's when I have my labs done. I guess there's the progressive part of this that's so scary. c > Great results Colleen. I'm sure you're very pleased, and I'm pleased for > you. :-) [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >HDL 63 > >chol/trigs 2.6 > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a > rise in the total cholesterol but my triglycerides went down and my HDL went > up. Everything looks great so I don't have to take the statins. Not sure I would be so giddy. Statins are proven in addition to reducing blood lipids protecting against heart attacks. As a diabetic and having viewed the studies I probably would ask for one even if my lipids were better than normal. Keep in mind not all can take them as it seems you can't. SignatureRonnie Ruff "that was me, sitting in the last row with a big gulp and a ice cream headache and a little bottle of rum stuffed in my sock so my parents would'nt see." M Stipe REM 2003 Because of the muscle problem I want to avoid them if I can. So far the ticker's in good condition and the rest of my physical health is really good. I've never been one to shy away from meds if I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. In this case, I think I'm better off without. The doc and the PA both agreed. I see him and get my labs done every three months so we are keeping a really close eye on things. c > > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > even if my lipids were better than normal. Keep in mind not all can take > them as it seems you can't. The other side effect of statins seems to be permanent cognitive decline. I ran into a lot of people posting about this when I started investigating, as well as people with the permanent muscle damage. Then I heard an MD on the NPR talk radio health show explaining that this is a documented side effect that the drug companies are trying to sweep under the rug. I don't like what happened to my dad's cognitive function after he started a statin, either. The decline in brain function only affects a small number of people, but it is permanent. I've already got another life-ruining side effect that only affects a small number of people and is permanent (tinnitus) so I have declined to dice with my brain function. The scary part of this is that this effect comes on very fast so you can't titrate to check it out. And of course, given what the statins cost and the profit center they represent to the drug companies that fund all the research about them, you aren't going to see any research about this problem any time soon. When it occurs, they'll say it was from something else, not the drug as they always do with these kind of troubling, but hard to nail down side effects. -- Jenny Weight: 168.5/137 Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings * Characteristics of Successful Dieters * Indispensible Low Carb Treats * Should You Count that Low Impact Carb? * Curing Ketobreath * Exercise Starting from Zero * NEW! Do Starch Blockers Work? > > Saw the doc for my labs today. I stopped the statin last July because of > > muscle pain. We decided to see how it would go for three months. I had a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > M Stipe REM 2003 |
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