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CONTROLLING OCCASIONAL HIGH BG

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RB - 22 Oct 2003 02:57 GMT
I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.

I am not taking any meds for BG but do for Cholesterol and Blood
Pressure.  I can pretty well maintain my BG through diet and exercise
alone.   However, if I make a poor choice for a meal I know from
testing that I will spike up to 180~250 pretty easily, then drop back
to more reasonable reading within three hours or so.

Why wouldn't it be a good idea to have a medicine like Starlix for
those times when I know I did not choose well and keep the BG spike
from occurring?  Am I missing something here.  My next Endo visit is
scheduled in a couple of weeks and was thinking of suggesting this.

RB
Julie Bove - 22 Oct 2003 03:28 GMT
> I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
> in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.
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> from occurring?  Am I missing something here.  My next Endo visit is
> scheduled in a couple of weeks and was thinking of suggesting this.

Because Starlix doesn't work that way.  I take it with breakfast, lunch and
dinner.  I also take Metformin twice daily.  And I still have to watch what
I eat.  Just a couple of bites too much and I have high BG.  It would be
wonderful if there were such a pill, but to my knowledge, there is not.

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Jennifer - 22 Oct 2003 05:44 GMT
That's exactly why I have Prandin.

I have a prescription, but only use three or four a month.

Jennifer

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> RB
Colleen - 22 Oct 2003 14:31 GMT
You need to take Starlix or Prandin BEFORE a meal.  It isn't a cure all.  If
you still eat too many carbs you won't metabolize them.  It doesn't allow a
massive pig-out (sadly.)  I usually take one before breakfast because I am
VERY carb intolerant then.  The rest of the time I take it according to my
carb count for the meal.  I eat a moderate low-carb diet and allow about
15-20grams per meal.  If I think my carb count is going to be slightly
higher, I take a .5 Prandin.  I have a script for up to three a day.  I
rarely use that many.  I also take Metformin 1500mg. daily.

The Prandin elimintates the 250 spikes for me but I still have to be careful
with what I eat.

c

> I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
> in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.
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> RB
Jenny - 22 Oct 2003 15:29 GMT
I take a prescription med, Precose (Acarbose), to blunt the spike if I know
I'm going to eat something carby.  It blocks an enzyme that breaks down
starches and sucrose so those carby foods take much longer to hit the blood
stream.  What I like about it is that it does not mess with beta cells or my
liver as do other drugs.

It works pretty well, but not so well that I'm tempted to go overboard a
lot. I take 100 mg with the first bite of carbs. It generally lets me go up
another 20 grams or so.

Precose does NOT block glucose, which means if you eat something filled with
corn syrup (or maple syrup) you'll still spike. It works for me very well
with bread.

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> I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
> in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.
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> RB
Gregory Gadow - 22 Oct 2003 15:55 GMT
> I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
> in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.
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> from occurring?  Am I missing something here.  My next Endo visit is
> scheduled in a couple of weeks and was thinking of suggesting this.

For the occasional spike, my solution is decidedly low-tech: I go for a
walk. Climbing five or six flights of stairs (if I'm at work) or a brisk
walk over to the news shop (if I'm at home) can drop my BG by quite a bit.
Just 10 minutes of something a bit strenuous works for me; YMMV.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 22 Oct 2003 18:42 GMT
RB, I take glyset before breakfast and dinner .  This is a med that I
believe is on the same order as starlix.  I would ask the doctor about
takng it,  I take it with the first bite of food.

Loretta

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oldal4865 - 23 Oct 2003 15:10 GMT
RB wrote in message ...
>I hesitate to ask about this but I was wondering what I am overlooking
>in my thought process.  So here goes and thanks for your input.
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>RB

 The problem with that approach is that it raises your level of circulating
insulin.

That's bad for anybody,  worse for a T2 diabetic.

Vigorous exercise possibly supplemented with a carb-blocker like Acarbose is
the better solution.

Metformin is better yet.

(Metformin not only helps control blood sugars, and helps retard the slow
destruction of beta cells,  it also acts as an anti-heart attack med for T2
diabetics)

Regards
 Old Al
 
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