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BessieBee - 26 Apr 2006 23:37 GMT Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly stuff that could have been avoided (probably) if I'd had a more "robust" lifestyle. That was when I quit smoking.
A few months after that I was diagnosed with coronary artery disease, and had 3 stents placed. Pretty scary sh.t for a 52 year old woman.
One of the first things I did when I quit the stink sticks was look for a newsgroup for support. I found a wonderful group of quitters at - I was going to put the name of the group here, but don't want to give even the slightest hint to anyone that they should post there, too.
Not long after my CAD dx I posted something on the stop smoking group asking about a cardiac newsgroup and any suggestions. The only suggestion I got was from a fellow diabetic and heart patient who *strongly* advised that I stay away from the cardiac group because it had been "taken over" by a whacko religious nut cardiologist who offered dubious advice to people posting there, and had successfully chased away the "regular people."
Now I find that ASD is flooded not only with the garbage spewed by the religious nut, but now we also have floods from the pissed off people from all the groups the whacko cross-posts to.
This just ***really*** pisses me off. I, nor should anyone else, have to be bothered with trying to KF someone who makes it impossible to filter them out.
I picture this whaco sitting at his desk, in front of his computer, eyes glowing red like the aliens on Star Gate as he types like the madman he is.
To the whacko: before you brand me as having numbers on my forehead, know that I have beliefs that are just as strong as yours. To whom do I offer my prayers: none of your business. This is a diabetic group, not a religious one.
BessieBee (nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but it feels good to rant now and then.)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 26 Apr 2006 23:55 GMT > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > (nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but > it feels good to rant now and then.) Glad to serve as the LORD's means of reaching you.
You will be in my prayers, dear Bessie whom I love in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
UKnowMe - 27 Apr 2006 05:40 GMT >> Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >> months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > Andrew > http://tinyurl.com/zlaml Andy can I play? Will you invite me in?
Priscilla Ballou - 27 Apr 2006 02:18 GMT > This just ***really*** pisses me off. I, nor should anyone else, have > to be bothered with trying to KF someone who makes it impossible to > filter them out. Uh, Bessiebee, I have him killfiled very successfully. It is actually rather easy -- not impossible at all.
Priscilla
Julie Bove - 27 Apr 2006 02:55 GMT > > This just ***really*** pisses me off. I, nor should anyone else, have > > to be bothered with trying to KF someone who makes it impossible to > > filter them out. > > Uh, Bessiebee, I have him killfiled very successfully. It is actually > rather easy -- not impossible at all. The problem is that he keeps coming back with yet another address. It's to the point where I don't even bother to KF him because by the time I do he'll have a new address. The problem I have is the cross posting idiots. KFing them has become a carreer!
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Wes Groleau - 27 Apr 2006 03:57 GMT > The problem is that he keeps coming back with yet another address. It's to > the point where I don't even bother to KF him because by the time I do he'll > have a new address. The problem I have is the cross posting idiots. KFing > them has become a carreer! Some newsreaders will let you KF messages that have ___ number of groups listed. Some will let you KF if they have specific groups listed. Thunderbird does neither. However, I find the following satisfactory:
If any of the following are true: From contains heartmdphd.com Subject contains Chung From contains (worst anti-Chung crossposter) From contains (worst pro-Chung crossposter) From contains (second worst ....) ... etc. ... Then: IGNORE THREAD
Occasionally I have to add a new name to the list. But the above takes care of almost all of it.
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Roger Zoul - 27 Apr 2006 04:48 GMT ::: The problem is that he keeps coming back with yet another address. ::: It's to the point where I don't even bother to KF him because by [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :: From contains heartmdphd.com :: Subject contains Chung This part;
:: From contains (worst anti-Chung crossposter) :: From contains (worst pro-Chung crossposter) :: From contains (second worst ....) :: ... etc. ... Is what makes this hard.
Wes Groleau - 27 Apr 2006 05:04 GMT > This part; > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is what makes this hard. Ah, but this part:
> :: Then IGNORE THREAD is what makes it easy. You see, once you get one or two of them on the list, one post by one of them makes everyone else in the whole thread vanish.
Once in a while, one of your main triggers goes on the wagon, and you add the next worst to the list.
Another variation of the technique: If you stumble into one of these crossposted wars, read it UNTIL you find a post by a name you don't recognize. Add that person to the list, and you have killed another twenty threads without killfiling anyone you know from this list.
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Alice Faber - 27 Apr 2006 04:20 GMT > > > This just ***really*** pisses me off. I, nor should anyone else, have > > > to be bothered with trying to KF someone who makes it impossible to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > have a new address. The problem I have is the cross posting idiots. KFing > them has become a carreer! I'm seeing very little of this, as I can killfile by crossposts. For instance, I can kf everything crossposted to sci.med.cardiology or anything posted to 3 or more groups.
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Priscilla H. Ballou - 27 Apr 2006 17:29 GMT > > > This just ***really*** pisses me off. I, nor should anyone else, have > > > to be bothered with trying to KF someone who makes it impossible to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > have a new address. The problem I have is the cross posting idiots. KFing > them has become a carreer! Ah! I guess my KF for crossposts is doing double duty. I just kill anything with a comma in the newsgroups line, and everything becomes a lot more peaceful.
Priscilla
Julie Bove - 27 Apr 2006 02:53 GMT > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > (nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but > it feels good to rant now and then.) You can't get rid of him. We've been trying for years. He'll seem to go away for awhile but then come back again with yet another address. Just do the best you can to ignore him.
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Wooly - 27 Apr 2006 02:58 GMT >You can't get rid of him. We've been trying for years. He'll seem to go >away for awhile but then come back again with yet another address. Just do >the best you can to ignore him. I've got Chung KF'd (as well as some of the more rabid members of the Opposition Party). Unfortunately the ages-old problem of people who don't snip means I often get all of Chung's poison and that of his more vocal detractors as part of someone else's response to Chung or others.
Ah well, that's what the delete key is for, right?
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Dick Malchik - 27 Apr 2006 03:11 GMT >> Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >> BessieBee [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >away for awhile but then come back again with yet another address. Just do >the best you can to ignore him. This shows my naive pink underbelly from newsgroup inexperience:
I'm surprised you can't get rid of him. He should get TOS'd if there are mmultiple complaints. Then when he switches ISPs and news providers, report him to the new services.
Why is this impossible?
Rich
Julie Bove - 27 Apr 2006 10:32 GMT > >> Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > >> BessieBee [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Why is this impossible? You can do that. But he's like the Energizer bunny! Keeps getting new ISP's and new throwaway accounts. He has gotten about a dozen or so in one day using a variety of names.
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Hi_Therre - 27 Apr 2006 14:55 GMT >>> Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >>> BessieBee [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Why is this impossible? ISPs mostly take abuse complaints and park them in a circular file. Rarely acted on. A waste of time. Just set your KF to kill the thread that chung acts on. Works best of all. _____________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free
W. Baker - 27 Apr 2006 16:51 GMT : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] : > (nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but : > it feels good to rant now and then.)
: You can't get rid of him. We've been trying for years. He'll seem to go : away for awhile but then come back again with yet another address. Just do : the best you can to ignore him. Who knows? Maybe someday soon the Lord will call him home:-)
Wendy
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Apr 2006 18:25 GMT > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > : You can't get rid of him. We've been trying for years. He'll seem to go > : away for awhile but then come back again with yet another address. No, the address has remained the same over the years.
> : Just do > : the best you can to ignore him. The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform.
> Who knows? Maybe someday soon the Lord will call him home:-) ... especially if the nuclear holocaust starts tomorrow (deadline from the UN security council for Iran to stop enriching uranium).
You will be in my prayers, dear Wendy whom I love in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 19:20 GMT > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > ... especially if the nuclear holocaust starts tomorrow (deadline from > the UN security council for Iran to stop enriching uranium). Ah, another Dire Portent from Andrew, which the day after will be defended, as usual, with "Well, I didn't say it WOULD happen, and it still COULD happen". Which of course raises the question of why he keeps littering the group with things that COULD happen, but never DO happen.
I'm giving 1000-to-1 oddes that there will not be a nuclear holocaust tomorrow.
On the other hand, I will point out that the United States may well be under siege by week's end by thousands of alien spacecraft, all disgorging horrid nauseating alien soldiers who look remarkably like Leonardo de Caprio. I'm not saying it WILL happen, mind you, but it COULD happen.
And if not this weekend, then ...well, someday.
-- cary
kathryn - 27 Apr 2006 19:46 GMT >> > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >> > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 86 lines] > > -- cary Can I vote for the aliens? They'd be much cooler than a nuclear holocaust.
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Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 20:11 GMT "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
> >> > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > >> > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > Can I vote for the aliens? They'd be much cooler than a nuclear holocaust. Yeah, but remember: they all look like Leonardo de Caprio.
Quote from an essay by Penn ( of Penn & Teller) on going to see "Titanic" with his mother:
Near the end of the movie, the two 12-year-olds (my Mom's POV is staying with me), are pledging to love each other forever and ever and ever while freezing in the cold water. (Am I ruining the movie for you? No. You know the boat sinks and everything else in the movie is more predictable than that.) -- cary
kathryn - 27 Apr 2006 20:34 GMT > "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> >> [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > -- cary Dammit! I was hoping a little more like "Mars Attacks!".
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 20:49 GMT > > "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> > >> [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] > > Dammit! I was hoping a little more like "Mars Attacks!". "I want the people to know that they still have two out of three branches of the government working for them, and that ain't bad." .
-- cary
Robibnikoff - 27 Apr 2006 21:19 GMT "Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message snip
> "I want the people to know that they still have two out of three branches > of the government working for them, and that ain't bad." . LOL - LOVE that movie! Ack, ack.....ack,ack,ack!!
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Apr 2006 19:47 GMT > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > be defended, as usual, with "Well, I didn't say it WOULD > happen, and it still COULD happen". This possibility is not "dire" for those who have their names in Jesus' Book of Life.
You will be in my prayers, dear Cary whom I love in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 20:35 GMT > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > This possibility is not "dire" for those who have their names in Jesus' > Book of Life.
> You will be in my prayers, dear Cary whom I love Actually no, you don't. You don't love me, because you don't have the slightest idea of who I am or what I am like. You know nothing about me, and you cannot love something you do not know -- except in the most abstract and impersonal way, similar to the way that liberals are often accused of loving the poor, as long as they don't actually have to be around any of the poor.
But you clearly love the smug feeling of virtue that saying this gives you, a little passive-aggressive move which allows you to assume the role of the wounded innocent, the long-suffering martyr, virtuous, forebearing, wonderfully patient in the face of endless insults, a Christian Bhodisatva, a Usenet Beckett. In brief, this gives you great pride in your wonderous humility.
But if I am wrong, and it is in fact me that you love, please, do tell me about this person you love. What makes him happy? What good does he do in this world? What are his fears? How's his health? Are the pronouns "he" and "his" even the correct ones for this person you know so well that you can say you love "him"?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Apr 2006 21:05 GMT > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Actually no, you don't. My choice made possible through GOD's generous gift of free will.
Still praying for you, dear Cary whom I love in Jesus' most exalted and holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 21:33 GMT > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > Still praying for you, dear Cary whom I love in Jesus' most exalted and > holy name. Why, exactly? Is God going to try harder if you urge Him to? I really do not understand why He needs advice from his creations.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Apr 2006 22:23 GMT > > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Why, exactly? This keeps me in HIS will.
> Is God going to try harder if you urge Him to? That is not how the LORD has taught us how to pray.
> I really do not understand why He needs advice from his creations. HE does not. It is I who needs HIS guidance.
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 23:32 GMT > > > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > HE does not. It is I who needs HIS guidance. Ah. So you're saying that your prayers regarding me are in fact your asking His advice as to how you should act towards me, is this correct?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Apr 2006 03:22 GMT > > > > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > fact your asking His advice as to how you should act towards me, > is this correct? No.
May you repent and turn to GOD to receive the powerful blessings HE has launched to help you with your needs, in Jesus' most awesome and holy name.
Amen.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 28 Apr 2006 17:18 GMT > > > > > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > > No. So, do I get twenty questions here, or what? Lessee what we got so far: -- you are "still praying for" me, and:
-- you're not giving God advice, but then: -- you're not asking His advice either, at least not His advice on your actions towards me, but: -- you /are/ asking "HIS guidance"... so: -- I suppose the next question must be:
?? what "guidance" are you asking for when you are "still praying for" me??
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2006 02:01 GMT > > > > > In article <445123F6.F9F6B1C6@heartmdphd.com> Andrew writes:
> > > > > > > In article <44511204.E93F35A@heartmdphd.com> Andrew writes:
> > > > > > > > > In article <4450FE73.A81BB371@heartmdphd.com> Andrew writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > > > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > > -- you are "still praying for" me, and: Yes.
> -- you're not giving God advice, but then: Yes.
> -- you're not asking His advice either, at least not > His advice on your actions towards me, but: Yes.
> -- you /are/ asking "HIS guidance"... so: Yes.
> -- I suppose the next question must be: > > ?? what "guidance" are you asking for when > you are "still praying for" me?? The guidance that comes from HIS using me according to HIS infinite will. This USENET post would be an example of the LORD guiding me in everything I say, do, and write. Still praying for you, dear Cary whom I love in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Uncle Vic - 29 Apr 2006 03:33 GMT > The guidance that comes from HIS using me according to HIS infinite > will. This USENET post would be an example of the LORD guiding me in > everything I say, do, and write. > Then "god" is a spammer. I get it now.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 29 Apr 2006 08:17 GMT > > The guidance that comes from HIS using me according to HIS infinite > > will. This USENET post would be an example of the LORD guiding me in > > everything I say, do, and write. > > Then "god" is a spammer. Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> I get it now. Glad to hear that my prayers are working :-)
Still praying for you, dear Vic whom I love in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy name. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Uncle Vic - 29 Apr 2006 18:53 GMT >>> The guidance that comes from HIS using me according to HIS infinite >>> will. This USENET post would be an example of the LORD guiding me in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Glad to hear that my prayers are working :-) Yes. Twisting words and meanings is the only way your dead religion seems to operate.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 30 Apr 2006 05:23 GMT > >>> The guidance that comes from HIS using me according to HIS infinite > >>> will. This USENET post would be an example of the LORD guiding me in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yes. Glad you agree :-)
Still praying for you, dear Vic whom I love in Jesus' most precious and holy name.
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In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Cary Kittrell - 27 Apr 2006 20:40 GMT > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > This possibility is not "dire" for those who have their names in Jesus' > Book of Life. Well, I know a lot of Christians, good Christians, and to the best of my knowledge, they're pretty much one hundred percent against the idea of nuclear conflagration.
In fact, when I was young, more than a few of them were building fallout shelters.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 27 Apr 2006 21:05 GMT > > > > > : > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > > > > > : > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > of my knowledge, they're pretty much one hundred percent against > the idea of nuclear conflagration. Being opposed to something is not the same thing as considering it "dire." The "end of the world" for Christians is a time when the LORD returns to judge and make everything right. If GOD's plan is to end the world with a nuclear conflagration then... Amen!
You will not find one Christian who would be against GOD's will and plan even though we will be sad that we were not given more time to be used by HIM to bring more people to accept Christ's offer of salvation through faith in HIM.
Still praying for you, dear Cary whom I love in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy name.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(04/27/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml
Mark K. Bilbo - 28 Apr 2006 02:58 GMT Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode <445123F0.F5B8E660@heartmdphd.com>...
> You will not find one Christian who would be against GOD's will and plan Except you. According to the BIBLE, if your message is rejected, you're supposed to *leave.
You've been rejected dozens of times and you're still here you off topic, cross posting troll of a spammer...
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 28 Apr 2006 03:22 GMT > Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode > <445123F0.F5B8E660@heartmdphd.com>... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Except you. According to the BIBLE, if your message is rejected, you're > supposed to *leave. The message is not mine but the LORD's.
It is written to leave when noone listens. Your post indicates that you are "listening" even if you do not like what you are reading.
> You've been rejected dozens of times and you're still here you off topic, > cross posting troll of a spammer... Namecalling remains a tell for those with satan's mark on their foreheads.
Still praying for you, dear Mark whom I love in Jesus' fantastic and most holy name. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing:
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badboybult@cs.com - 28 Apr 2006 06:42 GMT This is my first post, but from what I've heard this guy is a menace. I am not that computer literate, but what if we all send on to the sites he posts for his discussions about glowing and bombarded him with stupid questions and tied his site up with bull. Could we bring him down? Could we do to him what he does to us. All his messages have several sites listed with the time of his discussionsl. Some people only understand their own type of intimidation. If we shut him down maybe he would leave us alone. Or it could just make him feel happy and powerful. I don't know , but I know that nothing else has worked. Turn abouts fair play. Any thoughts? Alan are you there? Lloo
W.M.McKee - 28 Apr 2006 11:40 GMT >This is my first post, but from what I've heard this guy is a menace. >I am not that computer literate, but what if we all send on to the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >know that nothing else has worked. Turn abouts fair play. Any >thoughts? Alan are you there? Lloo Alan is on a trip for the next 5-6 weeks...
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Ma¢k - 27 Apr 2006 03:21 GMT >Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >(nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but >it feels good to rant now and then.) actually everything up to the last 2 paragraphs should be sent to his isp as it is a very clear and concise explanation of the abuse this troll has heaped upon multiple newsgroups. In direct violation of his ISPs TOS and multiple group charters and FAQs.
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Howard S Shubs - 27 Apr 2006 04:51 GMT > actually everything up to the last 2 paragraphs should be sent to his > isp as it is a very clear and concise explanation of the abuse this > troll has heaped upon multiple newsgroups. In direct violation of his > ISPs TOS and multiple group charters and FAQs. It won't help, though. He'll just find another ISP. Best is to ignore him completely. Then we can all killfile him and let him continue to post his drivel and no one will have to change their killfile entry.
Actually, "best" would be for him to realize his massive error and for him to reform, but that's not likely.
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Hi_Therre - 27 Apr 2006 14:55 GMT >>Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >>months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >troll has heaped upon multiple newsgroups. In direct violation of his >ISPs TOS and multiple group charters and FAQs. Abuse complaints are a waste of time. Remember the tremendous effort to get Phildo disconnected from BT? I bitched so much that BT complained to my ISP cox about my complaints to BT. _____________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free
Grandpa Chuck - 27 Apr 2006 03:57 GMT >Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 >months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >(nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but >it feels good to rant now and then.) Amen Bessie. I am hoping if we ignore him and not respond he will quiet down here for a few months and then of course he'll do it all over again. The big problem, as I see it, is all the idiots that reply to him and then x-post to ever group he posts to. I am probably adding five or more to my killfile every single day. I'm afraid I will inadvertently killfile some regular here when I see them answer him and I don't realize who they are.
sharppointy1 - 27 Apr 2006 14:08 GMT Amen, Amen, Grandpa Chuck and BessieBee. I haven't been playing in this group for very long, but I have found it quite helpful in learning about diabetes. I too am very frustrated by the mentally ill doctor, and have been coming here less. But then I got thinking, if we leave, then he'll have taken over. I use Google to access this group & so I can't KF. I use my mental filter and ignore things posted by Chung & his alter egos & his opponents. I'd really like to see asd continue as an excellent source of information for everyone. Deep sigh Barbara with DIABEETEEZ and a desire to do better :-)
gaj - 27 Apr 2006 23:08 GMT > One of the first things I did when I quit the stink sticks was look > for a newsgroup for support. I found a wonderful group of quitters at > - I was going to put the name of the group here, but don't want to > give even the slightest hint to anyone that they should post there, > too. I don't suppose it was alt.support.stop-smoking by any chance?
> Not long after my CAD dx I posted something on the stop smoking group > asking about a cardiac newsgroup and any suggestions. The only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > offered dubious advice to people posting there, and had successfully > chased away the "regular people." I don't suppose it was Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD was it?
badboybult@cs.com - 28 Apr 2006 06:32 GMT > Several years ago I was diagnosed with diabetes, type 2. About 18 > months ago I was hospitalized for a laundry list of things, mostly [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > (nodding her head acknowleging this post will accomplish nothing, but > it feels good to rant now and then.)
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