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Glenn - 08 Apr 2006 01:00 GMT
My basement stairs have a winder at the bottom and is tucked into a corner
of the basement.  Going down stairs, my bare foot slid off the step and
dived feet first into the concrete wall.  Scared me because I thought I
broke something.  Except for a skinned up lag and two toes that don't want
to bend, I'm OK  Should be walking OK in a couple days.  Does make you
realize just how vulnerable you really are.

This notice is for everyone but especially diabetics.  I have been using a
foot cream called "ProNeema" for dry feet.  It works well but it leaves the
bottom of your foot really slick.  There should be a warning on the can but
there isn't.  This fall happened 12 hours after application, by the way.  I
had a hint of this a few days ago but didn't realize it at that time.  I was
going down stairs sock footed and my foot slipped.  I thought the sock
slipped but I now realize my foot slipped in the sock and when my toes hit
the end of the sock that wasn't slipping, the sock stopped me.

I should post this in a couple diabetic NG's too.  Might stop someone else
from breaking something.

Glenn
Grandpa Chuck - 08 Apr 2006 01:15 GMT
>My basement stairs have a winder at the bottom and is tucked into a corner
>of the basement.  Going down stairs, my bare foot slid off the step and
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>
>Glenn

Hasn't your doctor warned you to NEVER go barefooted under any
circumstances since you have diabetes?

Have a few minutes of comfort just is not worth going through gangrene
and amputation.

Ask any podiatrist what kind of things they have seen in the feet of
diabetics that never even knew anything was wrong.

I hate slippers and swore I would never wear them, but then I
remembered seeing a fellow worker go through years of infection in
both feet leading up to the eventual amputation of one foot just above
the ankle and the other one just below the knee. If I have the urge to
go barefooted I go outside on a warm day, thoroughly rake the area
just in front of my lawn chair, slip my shoes off while setting in the
chair and run my feet and toes through the grass for a few minutes. I
do not get out of the chair without putting my shoes or leather
slippers back on.

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United Kingdom = 103
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And some people still believe what he says.

Glenn - 08 Apr 2006 15:29 GMT
> Hasn't your doctor warned you to NEVER go barefooted under any
> circumstances since you have diabetes?

OK I did my part to maybe save something broken and you did your part
warning about the shoes.

We each fulfilled our obligations.  :)
Nicky - 08 Apr 2006 15:45 GMT
> This notice is for everyone but especially diabetics.  I have been using a
> foot cream called "ProNeema" for dry feet.  It works well but it leaves
> the bottom of your foot really slick.

What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of your feet
for?

Your slip sounds nasty - I hope you heal quickly!

Nicky.

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Glenn - 08 Apr 2006 16:49 GMT
> What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of
> your feet for?
>
> Your slip sounds nasty - I hope you heal quickly!
>
> Nicky.

My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
does leave the foot slicker than I realized.

I'll probably continue using it some but will now realize what the result
will/can be.

Far as shoes, I'll put my heavy carpeted and heavy pad up against shoes
anytime.  I don't go outdoors bare.  Feet that is. :)

Glenn
Mopar Girl - 08 Apr 2006 17:23 GMT
Both my hands and feet are dry, flaky and rough as heck. I have
yet to find anything that helps at all. I have tried everything I
could get my hands on

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> > What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of
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> Glenn
Julie Bove - 08 Apr 2006 21:52 GMT
> My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
> This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
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> Far as shoes, I'll put my heavy carpeted and heavy pad up against shoes
> anytime.  I don't go outdoors bare.  Feet that is. :)

You might have althete's foot.  I had a rare form that caused peeling mainly
along the heels.  I cleared it up with an OTC cream.  Now, no more peeling!

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Nicky - 08 Apr 2006 22:34 GMT
> My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
> This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
> does leave the foot slicker than I realized.

My feet get dry when my thyroxin levels need topping up - it's one of the
ways I know when to go back to the doctor. I'm sure there's lots of possible
causes, but have you evaluated them?

Nicky
Also a barefoot recidivist : )

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Priscilla Ballou - 09 Apr 2006 00:37 GMT
> > My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
> > This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
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> Nicky
> Also a barefoot recidivist : )

Last appt with my endo, in January, he noted to me that the skin on my
feet was a little dry and recommended I use moisturizer on them, but not
between the toes.  He has never raised any alarm with me re: footware.  

Priscilla, who doesn't go barefoot at home much simply because she's a
terrible housekeeper and would get tired of brushing off the bottoms of
her feet
Chris Malcolm - 11 Apr 2006 22:26 GMT
>> > My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
>> > This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> Nicky
>> Also a barefoot recidivist : )

> Last appt with my endo, in January, he noted to me that the skin on my
> feet was a little dry and recommended I use moisturizer on them, but not
> between the toes.  He has never raised any alarm with me re: footware.  

> Priscilla, who doesn't go barefoot at home much simply because she's a
> terrible housekeeper and would get tired of brushing off the bottoms of
> her feet

Heh! This may be TMI, but walking over my untidy floors I use my bare
feet to feel and find small things that shouldn't be there, like
nails, pins, tiny nuts and bolts, tiny shards of glass or crockery,
and last but not least, the tail or paw of a cat :-) These are the
kinds of things that can hide in carpets and give trouble to vacuum
cleaners.

In order to avoid having to brush off my feet manually, I have the odd
bristly doormat in the internal doorways. I can use them to brush off
my feet as I pass.

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Priscilla Ballou - 09 Apr 2006 00:34 GMT
> > What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of
> > your feet for?
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> Far as shoes, I'll put my heavy carpeted and heavy pad up against shoes
> anytime.  I don't go outdoors bare.  Feet that is. :)

Oh?  Really?  ;-)  Hmmmmm....

Priscilla
Grandpa Chuck - 09 Apr 2006 03:45 GMT
>> What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of
>> your feet for?
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>This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
>does leave the foot slicker than I realized.

Just don't put any of it between your toes. At least that is what all
three of my doctors have told me. (A G.P, a podiatrist, a
dermatologist) They all warned me that using a moisturizer between the
toes is a very quick and easy way to let athletes foot get started.

>I'll probably continue using it some but will now realize what the result
>will/can be.
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>
>Glenn

You obviously have never stepped on a pin, one of those darned plastic
things used to attach tags to new clothes that have a habit of
disappearing when they are cut off, or even had a hair (human or
animal) driven up into you foot. I had a hair that I couldn't get
ahold of with the tweezers myself and neither could my wife. When the
podiatrist pulled it out there was over an inch embedded in the bottom
of my foot.

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The following information is given with the utmost respect
for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of April 07, 2006 is 2,349.
Americans wounded = more than 16,774
United Kingdom = 103
Other = 105  
Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000.

Today, April 8, 2006
It has been 1073 days since Bush declared,
"Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
And some people still believe what he says.

Ozgirl - 09 Apr 2006 04:08 GMT
or even had a hair (human or
> animal) driven up into you foot. I had a hair that I couldn't get
> ahold of with the tweezers myself and neither could my wife.

Wow, there is no way a hair would penetrate my leather feet.
Grandpa Chuck - 09 Apr 2006 22:45 GMT
>or even had a hair (human or
>> animal) driven up into you foot. I had a hair that I
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>
>Wow, there is no way a hair would penetrate my leather feet.

Don't bet on it.
When I was a mailman there was one that somehow got into one of my
socks. With me walking 96 blocks five days a week it was at least two
or three inches into my foot before it became painful. When the doctor
pulled it out I asked him how could a hair possibly get into the foot.
He said the constant movement when I was walking had worked it up into
the skin and then it just kept going farther and farther until I
noticed the pain.

With your feet being so tough it would probably be more difficult for
a small piece of glass or a thumbtack to penetrate your foot than for
a hair to do so. After all, a hair is as thin as, well a hair, and
with it going into the skin from the very end instead of the root end
it is more likely to be as pointed as a very sharp needle.

Now since we have dogs and cats in the house I always run my socks
through my hands before putting them on and not only turn my shoes
upside down and give them a couple of raps before putting them on, but
also remove the insert from the shoes at least a couple of times a
week to make sure there isn't anything embedded in them.

Ah, for the days when I was a boy and only wore shoes on Sundays
during the summer months and thought nothing of it if I stepped on a
nail sticking out of a board unless it went deep, but also waded
through mud and manure every day when I drove the cows from pasture to
the barnyard. Who knows; maybe all that acid and other things in the
cow manure actually helped me to stay free from infections.
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for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of April 07, 2006 is 2,350.
Americans wounded = more than 16,774
United Kingdom = 103
Other = 105  
Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000.
9Today, April 8, 2006
It has been 1074 days since Bush declared,
"Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
And some people still believe what he says.

Chris Malcolm - 11 Apr 2006 22:17 GMT
>> What on earth are you putting something like that on the bottom of
>> your feet for?
>>
>> Your slip sounds nasty - I hope you heal quickly!
>>
>> Nicky.

> My feet are so dry they peel flakes.  Hand lotions help some but not much.
> This stuff really does work.  It is about the consistency of cream but it
> does leave the foot slicker than I realized.

I regard dry, flaking, and cracking skin on my feet as a sign that I'm
low in fats. Drinking spoonfuls of cod liver oil daily for a week
usually fixes the problem. In fact I've got used enough to this that I
can tell whether or not I'm low in oils simply by looking at the skin
on the backs of my hands. When I'm fine the skin has a very light oily
sheen and is smoother and more flexible. When I'm oil-low the skin
looks drier and more papery.

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Julie Bove - 08 Apr 2006 21:50 GMT
> My basement stairs have a winder at the bottom and is tucked into a corner
> of the basement.  Going down stairs, my bare foot slid off the step and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I should post this in a couple diabetic NG's too.  Might stop someone else
> from breaking something.

Yet another reason for always wearing shoes or slippers.
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Wooly - 08 Apr 2006 21:58 GMT
It sounds like the stuff has some sort of silicone component and/or a
hygrostatic ingredient.  I'd avoid it like plague, myself.

I use something called HoofsAlive that I get at the feedstore.  It is
a lanolin-based creme with VitE and some assorted vegetable/nut
butters/oils added.  Excellent stuff for damned near every dry skin
problem I've encountered.  I grease up at bedtime after I've made my
last trip to the bathroom, and I wear socks to bed to keep the sheets
from suffering.

Next morning nary a hint of greasiness, just nice soft skin.

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Alan S - 09 Apr 2006 04:03 GMT
>I use something called HoofsAlive that I get at the feedstore.  It is
>a lanolin-based creme with VitE and some assorted vegetable/nut
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>
>+++++++++++++

Could be very useful for byetta users. Keeps their scales
moist in the drying desert sun, and helps the footpads
supple so that they can cling better to the rocks.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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sharppointy1 - 10 Apr 2006 04:10 GMT
Can you hear me giggling??  This lizard lover was feeling very fufilled
today in the backyard sunshine & warmth.  Pity about my odd new
coloration though....
Alan S - 10 Apr 2006 06:09 GMT
>Can you hear me giggling??  This lizard lover was feeling very fufilled
>today in the backyard sunshine & warmth.  Pity about my odd new
>coloration though....

:-))

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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