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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2006Diabetes treatment in a nutshell
Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise > Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how > I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. > > http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise It's still crap information though. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > >> Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how >> I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise > It's still crap information though. Not all of it and it does stress the importance of keeping to your own carb limitations. Some of the comments like: "As a result, the total amount of carbohydrate in the diet affects blood sugar more than the type of carbohydrate." I don't agree with especially when it conflicts with a comment further down "Foods with a lower GI raise blood glucose levels less than those with a higher GI, when amounts providing the same amount of carbohydrate are compared." There was one thing that troubled me It said for pre diabetics, they should eat 6 to 9 servings of fruit and vegetables a day, To me, that was too much fruit and it didnt speciy the quantities of each . I personally cant do more than two fruits a day and not a whole one at one time, Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. : Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how : I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise Thank you for the great link. Very good information.  SignatureUrbana Lurker Extraordinaire >: Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how >: I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise > Thank you for the great link. > Very good information. Watch for some inconsistencies, like I just wrote in an answer to Susan. I have close control of my diabetes but morning reading drive my bonkers 8 --12 ( foe Americans thats about 144-216 ) I know about the dawn phenomena and the Liver releasing the glucose - by why and how can you reduce this release or is it pot luck Walter W wrote in message <446c17e3$0$26950$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>... >I have close control of my diabetes but morning reading drive my bonkers > 8 --12 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Walter Two of the easier techniques: 1. Metformin (doesn't always work) 2. A shot of long-lasting insulin the night before (can always be made to work) More difficult techniques: Eating slow-digesting carb at some carefully selected time in the hours of darkness often convinces your liver to not be so "helpful" in greeting the morning. One brute force technique sometimes used by pregnant women: a half-cup of peanuts at 3 a.m. The type of carb, amount and a search for more comfortable timing tend to be subjects of a very personal trial and error investigation. General Comment: My Dawn Effect/Morning effect is really fierce. If I lie around in bed in the morning, the sugar just starts climbing. I have seen a 5.5 mmol/L rise in 1 hour. Up and around early is part of my Diabetes Life Sentence. Regards Old Al (Whose shot of Levemir before bed often produces 3.9 - 4.5 mmol/L FbG) ( I inject Levemir at 10 p.m. However, when I used Insulatard, it was essential to inject as close to Midnight as feasible. ) W <wpa@iinet.net.au> wrote: : I have close control of my diabetes but morning reading drive my bonkers : 8 --12 : ( foe Americans thats about 144-216 ) : I know about the dawn phenomena and the Liver releasing the glucose - by why : and how can you reduce this release or is it pot luck : Walter In my case, I tried highprotein, fatty snacks with slow acting carb (a Wasa whoe grain rye crackerwith some cheese or peanut butter on it to no avail. Some find it works for them. My endo perscribeb a 1mg Amary(a sulf-or betat cell pusher) before bed and I now have mornign readings as low a 70 and usually well below 100. 1 mg is about 1/4 of teh standard dose for the drug adn 1/8 of the max dose. I am also on 1000mgs metformin 2 times a day. Wendy Jan, thanks for sharing the site with us. I found it very informative and very comprehensive. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how > I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. > > http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise Most of this is what I have come to believe is true. The only thing I don't yet understand is the idea that you can eat any significant amounts of carbs in the diet. The idea that a low fat diet is the way to go and that we should limit proteins means that we have to eat carbs, too many carbs. For a fact, if I eat carbs, my BG flies up quickly. 12 potatoe chips = 20 points... kind of like 1 point per gram of carbs. I just think the medical community holds onto the low fat thing a bit too much because it leaves you no choices. No carbs, no fat, no proteins. You can eat all the low fat dirt you want... I'm not an earthworm! -Sax ::: Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how ::: I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise :: Most of this is what I have come to believe is true. The only thing :: I don't yet understand is the idea that you can eat any significant [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] :: No carbs, no fat, no proteins. You can eat all the low fat dirt you :: want... I'm not an earthworm! -Sax Well, there's no way I'd follow their advice and ruin my level of control. No way. I'll leave it to the diabetic masses to get in line.... > Most of this is what I have come to believe is true. The only thing I > don't yet understand is the idea that you can eat any significant amounts > of carbs in the diet. The idea that a low fat diet is the way to go and > that we should limit proteins means that we have to eat carbs, too many > carbs. Why do you want to limit proteins, assuming your kidneys are clear? Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg It does concern me that on a University website they say: Diabetes Management Advise instead of Advice ; ) Jennifer > Unbelievable what you can fit onto one page :) This is how > I'd like to see the ADA present an opening page. > > http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/mainweb/DOMPages.php?section=naa&page=diabetesadvise > It does concern me that on a University website they say: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Advice ; ) Yes ;) But I have heard it said that some of the best scholars are often the worst spellers. But then again, a typo like that wouldn't be picked up by spell-check ;) I am amazed at the large number of typos I find in the books from best selling authors. Their proof readers must be woeful. They must be the same proof readers that work for the captioning institute. ;-) -- Cheri Ozgirl wrote in message ... that >wouldn't be picked up by spell-check ;) I am amazed at the >large number of typos I find in the books from best selling >authors. Their proof readers must be woeful. : > It does concern me that on a University website they say: : > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : > : > Advice ; ) : Yes ;) : But I have heard it said that some of the best scholars are : often the worst spellers. But then again, a typo like that : wouldn't be picked up by spell-check ;) I am amazed at the : large number of typos I find in the books from best selling : authors. Their proof readers must be woeful. Thanks, jan. If that is the case, I should have been the worlds best scholar! for me, a combination of poor typing skills, poor spelling adn poor eyesight give my posts a certain flavor of , should I call it super academic qualities:-) Wendy "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message > Thanks, jan. If that is the case, I should have been the worlds best > scholar! for me, a combination of poor typing skills, poor spelling adn > poor eyesight give my posts a certain flavor of , should I call it super > academic qualities:-) Your posts are "unique". I enjoy them for a few reasons ;) |
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