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Saxology - 05 Apr 2006 17:38 GMT
This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
that goes around the ankle so that I can keep my privacy.
In general, do you wear one?
Where can I get one inexpensively or free (better!)??
Thanks,
Sax
Jennifer - 05 Apr 2006 18:40 GMT
You can find some good prices on eBay.

Search "medical alert".

Jennifer

> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sax
Roger Zoul - 06 Apr 2006 00:54 GMT
::: This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a
::: good idea to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either
::: the pendant or one that goes around the ankle so that I can keep my
::: privacy.
::: In general, do you wear one?

No.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Apr 2006 19:42 GMT
Sax, I was watching qvc yesterday and they had it on all day long,  I
dont know cost or anything, but it held all kinds of information.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Saxology - 06 Apr 2006 02:25 GMT
> Sax, I was watching qvc yesterday and they had it on all day long,  I
> dont know cost or anything, but it held all kinds of information.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.

I did some searching on QVC, they range from $45 to $57... I think that
stainless steel should be much cheaper.  I am a cheapo, but more than that,
I won't pay gold prices for stainless steel!
-Sax
louisejoi - 05 Apr 2006 19:51 GMT
> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
> that goes around the ankle so that I can keep my privacy.
> In general, do you wear one?
> Where can I get one inexpensively or free (better!)??

You can pick up knockoffs for free at health fairs.  I've seen inexpensive
ones at drug stores, usually near the pharmacy.  But these are not
associated with the Medic Alert Foundation.

A real Medic Alert pendent costs about $20 per year and a little more the
first year you sign up.  I have invested in a medic alert pendant that I
wear around my neck for privacy.  I like it because it has an 800 number
that EMT's (or whoever finds you) can call in an emergency.  Medic Alert has
all your medical info that you've given them, including your drug info.

To me, it is worth the expense because I can wear it when I'm exercising
without carrying an ID.  Also in a critical emergengcy, medical personnel
treating me will get my pertinent info very quickly.  Could be a lifesaver.
And if it saves me just one extra day in the hospital, it will pay for
itself many times over.  The free and cheap ones are better than nothing,
but this is one item I'm not willing to go cheap on.

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Best wishes,
Louise

Type 2 since 2000
Controlling by exercise and diet
and now metformin!

bj - 05 Apr 2006 20:22 GMT
> A real Medic Alert pendent costs about $20 per year and a little more the
> first year you sign up.  I have invested in a medic alert pendant that I
> wear around my neck for privacy.  I like it because it has an 800 number
> that EMT's (or whoever finds you) can call in an emergency.  Medic Alert
> has all your medical info that you've given them, including your drug
> info.

And you can easily update the info online anytime. Very handy.
I wear a bracelet, since I don't care if anyone sees it just casually.

Not even the helper in the medical van at a recent race noticed it when I
was getting tape for a blister -- of course, she wasn't looking for any such
thing, and apparently it wasn't "that obvious" -- or perhaps it was because
it's next to my watch, & my running watch is not a wimpy little thing.

The day I was in the ER getting stitched up, I had on one wrist: my watch,
MedicAlert bracelet, hospital ID, and yet another hospital bracelet -- in
pink -- stating my shellfish allergy! (they put another regular hospital ID
on my other wrist.)

> To me, it is worth the expense because I can wear it when I'm exercising
> without carrying an ID.  Also in a critical emergengcy, medical personnel
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> itself many times over.  The free and cheap ones are better than nothing,
> but this is one item I'm not willing to go cheap on.

I don't "exercise" w/o ID, but I do often take the trash out back & then
continue a stroll around the block, and yes, it is nice not to have to carry
ID as well.

If the cost of $20/year is "too much", perhaps there is a friend or relative
who would like to make it an ongoing gift.
bj
Saxology - 06 Apr 2006 02:41 GMT
>> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good
> idea
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> itself many times over.  The free and cheap ones are better than nothing,
> but this is one item I'm not willing to go cheap on.

Walmart had some but they were only bracelets.  I don't want the whole medic
alert thing, I'll never update it, I'll forget to renew it, etc.  I just
want a simple chain.  I wear short sleeved shirts, always, and the bracelet
will be way too obvious.  Plus, I like the idea that I can wear it
exercising....  I'll have to see when there is a health fair in town.  I'll
get one eventually.  I figured that there would be some free source around.
I'll keep on lookin'!
-Sax
Mopar Girl - 06 Apr 2006 03:14 GMT
> >> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good
> > idea
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I'll keep on lookin'!
> -Sax

Here is a site that has ankle ones for $19.99 before shipping.
http://www.roadid.com/default.asp
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Suzi
A1c 6.4  T2 DX 10/2002
Glucophage 2 x 1000mg
Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg
30 minutes walks 7 days a week

Saxology - 06 Apr 2006 03:23 GMT
<snip>

> Here is a site that has ankle ones for $19.99 before shipping.
> http://www.roadid.com/default.asp

I saw something similar in my surfing.  I am a bit afraid of something that
fits snugly on the ankle because of circulation.  Anything fitting loose
might cause a rash or other injury.  I don't have any foot concerns at this
time but I am wondering if the ankle ones would cause any problems.  I
though of buying 2 bracelets and hooking them together!  That's a $10
solution... I should be able to find a simple pendent and small chain in
stainless if the bracelet is under $5 and has a larger diameter chain and
alert charm.  Plus, I don't need the red ceramic insert on it either.
-Sax
Howard S Shubs - 06 Apr 2006 03:39 GMT
> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
> that goes around the ankle so that I can keep my privacy.
> In general, do you wear one?

Yes, which I wear around my neck.  IIRC, the basic model is pretty
cheap, and the yearly subscription is $35.  Hey, SOMEone has to pay to
keep the system and the phone people going.

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vohrtex - 06 Apr 2006 04:24 GMT
For my birthday my wife bought me an antique ID bracelet and had it
engraved "Diabetic" I think it is enough information and is
significantly prettier than the medic alert bracelets

-Matt

> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sax
Jennifer - 06 Apr 2006 05:04 GMT
It sounds lovely...

Trouble is, emergency people won't be looking for the engraving.  They
are trained to look for the classic emblem.

Jennifer

> For my birthday my wife bought me an antique ID bracelet and had it
> engraved "Diabetic" I think it is enough information and is
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>Thanks,
>>Sax
Karen - 06 Apr 2006 04:48 GMT
> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good
> idea to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sax

Here's a site where you can get a necklace for free:
http://tinyurl.com/8ma8q   I ordered one when I was first diagnosed.  If I
remember correctly, it took about 3-4 weeks to arrive.

Karen
Mopar Girl - 06 Apr 2006 15:49 GMT
Here is something else you can get for free.
LEAP Monofilament

This monofilament, produced by the Lower Extremity Amputation
Prevention Program (LEAP), is used to test for loss of protective
sensation in the feet--a key indicator of diabetes or risk of
diabetes.

http://www.bphc.hrsa.gov/leap/ordering_leap_filaments.htm

Signature

Suzi
A1c 6.4  T2 DX 10/2002
Glucophage 2 x 1000mg
Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg
30 minutes walks 7 days a week

>
> > This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good
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>
> Karen
Saxology - 06 Apr 2006 16:20 GMT
> Here is something else you can get for free.
> LEAP Monofilament
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>
> http://www.bphc.hrsa.gov/leap/ordering_leap_filaments.htm

<snip>

Good find there.  I ordered one.  I'll try just about anything...once!
This NG has paid me back many times over in just a few short months.
From meters to strips, from jewlery to feet, this is a great place to find
resources!
Thanks to all!
-Sax
Karen - 06 Apr 2006 19:54 GMT
> Here is something else you can get for free.
> LEAP Monofilament
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>
> http://www.bphc.hrsa.gov/leap/ordering_leap_filaments.htm

Thanks a million for providing the link, Suzi!  I just ordered mine.

Karen
Saxology - 06 Apr 2006 16:11 GMT
<snip>

> Here's a site where you can get a necklace for free:
> http://tinyurl.com/8ma8q   I ordered one when I was first diagnosed.  If I
> remember correctly, it took about 3-4 weeks to arrive.
>
> Karen

Thanks young lady!  This is exactly what I am looking for.
I have purchased stainless steel ball chain and the problem is that they
have a minimum order of $100.  For that, you get 1000's of feet of the
chain, couplers, etc.  I can get tags for $50... 500 of them!  These
necklaces cost less than $.15 to produce in small quantity.  I only need one
or two... The guys selling them for $45 are not my type of supplier...
Thanks again for the link!
-Sax
bj - 06 Apr 2006 16:30 GMT
> I have purchased stainless steel ball chain and the problem is that they
> have a minimum order of $100.  For that, you get 1000's of feet of the
> chain, couplers, etc.  I can get tags for $50... 500 of them!  These
> necklaces cost less than $.15 to produce in small quantity.  I only need
> one or two...

If all you want is a cheap tag to add to an equally cheap neck chain you can
buy in a variety store (I've bought several -- check out the keymaking
counter), how about one of the many pet-id tags. You can have anything you
want put on them -- it doesn't have to be "My name is Rover and I belong
to....".
bj
Jennifer - 06 Apr 2006 17:17 GMT
But emergency response people are not trained to read every piece of
jewelry.

Unless it it clearly a medical alert item, it will likely get
overlooked, just when you need it most.

Jennifer

>>I have purchased stainless steel ball chain and the problem is that they
>>have a minimum order of $100.  For that, you get 1000's of feet of the
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> to....".
> bj
bj - 06 Apr 2006 20:54 GMT
> But emergency response people are not trained to read every piece of
> jewelry.
>
> Unless it it clearly a medical alert item, it will likely get overlooked,
> just when you need it most.

That's why I went with the real MedicAlert.
But the OP (or whoever) didn't want anything so "obvious". And just about
anything may be better than "nothing" when you are an unidentifiable patient
(or corpse).
bj
Saxology - 07 Apr 2006 02:17 GMT
> But emergency response people are not trained to read every piece of
> jewelry.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jennifer
<snip>

I disagree.  If all the tag says is "diabetic" and they don't look at it,
they wouldn't see your medic alert tag either.  In fact, a simple tag leaves
no doubt or create any delay.  No phone number to call, they know what you
have.

I agree with you in that I have seen some "charms" that fit on a watch band
or are part of those "links that make bracelets" things (I don't remember
the name for them, some italian thing.. like zoppini, or something) becaus
ethey can be easily overlooked due to the busy area you chose to display it.

Actully, not to rant, but my daughter was into those bracelets/watches for a
while.  Charms were about $10 each in the mall/whererever.  When I looked at
them I saw that they were just stainless steel.  I told her there was no way
that anything made out of stainless and enamel should cost $10, no way.  Of
course, she didn't believe me.  So, I want online and found a guy who would
sell me 100 of thise charms, and assortment, for $9.  All stainless, all
new.  Got a free key chain and watch (she likes purple faces on the watch)
for free with my order.  Needless to say, with a charm watch, key chain, and
4 or 5 bracelets from these links she was very happy.  She sold the links
she didn't care for to her friends for $5 each (such a bargain).  In the
end, she was happy and rich.  Sorry to the people who paid $10 a piece for
those foolish things.  It's only stainless, not gold or silver.
-Sax
louisejoi - 07 Apr 2006 02:42 GMT
> > But emergency response people are not trained to read every piece of
> > jewelry.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> no doubt or create any delay.  No phone number to call, they know what you
> have.

Actually, most EMT's will tell you that the Medic Alert emblem is the gold
standard and they are trained to look for them.  And they can be engraved
with your most critical health info.  For example, mine has my 2 most
critical conditions as well as a drug allergy engraved.  The 800 number has
the rest of your medical info as well as phone numbers for your doctor and
mext of kin (or anybody you want contacted).  IMHO if you think you need
something like this and there's any way you can afford the $20 per year (a
DVD, a couple of CD's, dinner for 2 at an inexpensive restaurant), you're
foolish not to get one from Medic Alert.  If money is your hangup here, it's
penny wise, pound foolish not to get one...because you'll more likely
receive the most appropriate treatment and you'll likely save money.  And I
figure my health is worth it.  If I don't spend my hard earned money on my
health and welfare, what's the point?

Signature

Best wishes,
Louise

Type 2 since 2000
Controlling by exercise and diet
and now metformin!

Jennifer - 07 Apr 2006 03:30 GMT
They all seem to have a thick specific logo on them.

Just having something engraved on a charm is not the same.   Simple
engraving is not easy to see at a glance, and they won't look closer
because for all they know it says "Joanie Love Chacci"...

But a quick glance is all it takes to see the medical logo on all of the
alert jewelry I've seen.

Jennifer

>>But emergency response people are not trained to read every piece of
>>jewelry.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> those foolish things.  It's only stainless, not gold or silver.
> -Sax
Saxology - 07 Apr 2006 02:03 GMT
>> I have purchased stainless steel ball chain and the problem is that they
>> have a minimum order of $100.  For that, you get 1000's of feet of the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> to....".
> bj

I hate to tell you, stainless steel chain is cheap.  If you pay a lot for it
you got ripped off, pure and simple.  The tags that cost $15-$25 are
actually no different than dog tags.  300 Stainless steel is 300 stainless
steel.  Dogs use the same tag shapes, along with many others.  The idea that
stamping the medical emblem on it costs $20 is foolish.  Take a look at the
chain that is free.  Even if you don't like the style, it is a $15 chain.
Special message and everything.  And, it's stainless!

Sorry, walmart retails the fancy bracelet for under $5.  The simple
necklace, retail, shouldn't be any more (smaller tag, simpler tag, lighter
chain, longer chain).  Retail is under $5, anything else is just
foolishness.
-Sax
Dennis R - 07 Apr 2006 04:22 GMT
> I hate to tell you, stainless steel chain is cheap.  If you pay a lot for it
> you got ripped off, pure and simple.  The tags that cost $15-$25 are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> foolishness.
> -Sax

I take it you are just talking about a generic bracelet, not a Medic
Alert bracelet. It isn't the logo on the Medic Alert bracelet that costs
 $25 - $40, it is the 24 hour, worldwide service that costs the money.
I can update my file with medical conditions, medications, doctors,
emergency contact numbers, by mail or by internet. This is available
24hrs / 365 days anywhere in the world, in every major language, by any
qualified medical personnel. I use a plain stainless steel version
because I can't wear silver, and gold isn't in my budget.

If you have serious illnesses (I have 3) and are on numerous meds (I am
on a dozen or more), Medic Alert is well worth it. If you are saying
that you only have Type 2 diabetes and maybe only take metformin, then
sure, buy a cheapo tag and chain. It probably doesn't matter if the
E.M.T.'s don't spare it a second glance. If it isn't a big deal to you,
why should they care?

Dennis (Type 2, Glaucoma, Kidney Transplant 1995)
Susan Adair - 10 Apr 2006 14:23 GMT
I don't yet feel the need for a medicalert tag; I'm T2 taking no meds,
and my other meds are fairly standard stuff that don't need immediate
attention  - lisinopril and levothyroxine.
However, I was hit by a truck while taking a walk in my neighborhood,
and there was some difficulty for the police finding my name and
address.  Most people along the standard walk I take recognise my face
but don't know my name.  I don't know how the police finally found my
address to notify my husband.   So I am thinking that a name and phone
number on the tag would be useful in those circumstances.

Susan Adair
leenarose@gmail.com - 10 Apr 2006 14:28 GMT
Clue to diabetes limb loss cause

Scientists say they have discovered what causes a condition which can
lead to people with diabetes having to have lower limbs amputated.
A team from the University of Bristol identified changes in skin tissue
which precede the development of leg ulcers.

Sometimes, ulcers will not heal and the only solution is to amputate,
usually below the knee.

Diabetes experts said lowering blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose
cut complications from the condition.

It is estimated that around 50,000 people with diabetes will have a
foot ulcer at any one time, and up to 15% of all foot ulcers will
result in amputations.

For complete news:-
http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/health-news/4-10health3.htm
Tecknomage - 06 Apr 2006 12:20 GMT
> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sax

MedicAlert.com http://www.medicalert.org/
Does charge for joining (has to be renewed with a fee) and do offer a
limited choice of jewelry at NO EXTRA COST.  They also offer a list of
better quality jewelry and other items at an extra cost.

What you are really paying for is the health data you give them and
they keep on file.  Your condition, drugs you take including dosage,
who to notify, doctor's name & phone, medical plan, your address &
basic health info, etc.  What you enter is up to you.

The jewelry you get has your condition on the back and their 800 phone
number.  When paramedics, hospitals (that you do not have your
records), or other emergency personnel call and identify themselves
they are given the info you entered in your database.

THIS SERVICE IS WORTH EVERY PENNY!

The free or cheap jewelry you get at your druggist or fairs usually do
not provide any service.  They just identify your condition and
nothing else.

They choice is yours.

Disclaimer:  I do not work for MedicAlert, I AM a member.

======= Tecknomage =======
     San Diego, CA
   The Mage Soapbox
http://magesoapbox.blogspot.com/
Jac - 10 Apr 2006 04:05 GMT
>> This has been on my "to do" list since Dx.  I think it might be a good idea
>> to have one of those medicalert emblems.  I want either the pendant or one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> Sax

emergency personnel are also trained to check your left wrist for it
too and I have read many stories where they have been missed if
elsewhere on the body.  So mine is or was on my left wrist, I quit
wearing it when my mother was sick because it scratched her when I
would rub her back, but I have never remembered to put it on when I
had someone here to help me, the dang things are  hard to get on.

MsJac
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bj - 10 Apr 2006 14:07 GMT
> emergency personnel are also trained to check your left wrist for it
> too and I have read many stories where they have been missed if
> elsewhere on the body.  So mine is or was on my left wrist, I quit
> wearing it when my mother was sick because it scratched her when I
> would rub her back, but I have never remembered to put it on when I
> had someone here to help me, the dang things are  hard to get on.

It costs a bit more, but MedicAlert does have an expansion bracelet style
available.

I have one of the regular (free-with-first-year) stainless ones -- it's just
big enough that I can slip it off over my hand with some effort, but not so
big that it will come off by itself.
bj
 
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