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Nixing the Need for the Needle

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Hi_Therre - 28 Mar 2006 22:27 GMT
http://wired.com/news/technology/0,70508-0.html?tw=wn_index_3
For the first time ever, global spending on prescription drugs has
topped $600 billion, even as growth slowed in Europe and North
America.

http://wired.com/news/technology/medtech/0,70363-0.html?tw=wn_index_2
New technology for delivering drugs is doing away with one of the most
feared, yet enduring, symbols of modern medicine -- the hypodermic
needle.
ted rosenberg - 29 Mar 2006 04:44 GMT
Hi_There wrote:
> http://wired.com/news/technology/0,70508-0.html?tw=wn_index_3
> For the first time ever, global spending on prescription drugs has
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> feared, yet enduring, symbols of modern medicine -- the hypodermic
> needle.
What is this?

does Hi_there have stock in the company.  This is the SECOND piece of
crap promoting a commercial product.  AND, neither puff piece mentions
the dangers of inhaled insulin
Ma¢k - 30 Mar 2006 07:03 GMT
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:44:08 -0500, ted rosenberg
<tedrosenberg@iname.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
madness of usenet:

>Hi_There wrote:
>> http://wired.com/news/technology/0,70508-0.html?tw=wn_index_3
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>crap promoting a commercial product.  AND, neither puff piece mentions
>the dangers of inhaled insulin

you Hi_There doesn't, and is an actual diabetic who has been posting
for a while now.

Attack the message if you disagree with it.  Attacking the diabetic
without cause or proof of the accusation you made lowers your
credibility all around.

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ted rosenberg - 30 Mar 2006 18:09 GMT
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:44:08 -0500, ted rosenberg
> <tedrosenberg@iname.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> without cause or proof of the accusation you made lowers your
> credibility all around.

I know that Hi_there is a regular, but a regular who posts fraudulent
crap is even MORE of a menace than a typical spammer.

I didn't do my standard anti-scam attack.

The FIRST time Hi_there posted this junk, I noted that it was puff, not
real fact.

The SECOND time Hi_there posted this crap, I began to question the motive.

The question is
Is Hi_there simply a blithering idiot, or does she have an ulterior motive?
Ma¢k - 31 Mar 2006 04:17 GMT
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:09:06 -0500, ted rosenberg
<tedrosenberg@iname.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
madness of usenet:

>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:44:08 -0500, ted rosenberg
>> <tedrosenberg@iname.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>I know that Hi_there is a regular, but a regular who posts fraudulent
>crap is even MORE of a menace than a typical spammer.

Ted this is a group that is more than capable of handling discussion
on suspect items without having to kill the diabetic curious about the
item being discussed.  If you have proof the item being discussed is
fraudulent, present it.

>I didn't do my standard anti-scam attack.

no you did your standard make a false accusation.

>The FIRST time Hi_there posted this junk, I noted that it was puff, not
>real fact.
>
>The SECOND time Hi_there posted this crap, I began to question the motive.

who gives a f.ck.

>The question is
>Is Hi_there simply a blithering idiot, or does she have an ulterior motive?

are you using false accusations in a failed attempt to moderate
discussion.

if you have proof, present it.  if you do not have proof, this back
fires on you, not the OP who is a known diabetic and regular poster.

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Type 1 since 1975
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President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

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--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

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half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
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Hi_There - 31 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
>Hi_There wrote:
>> http://wired.com/news/technology/0,70508-0.html?tw=wn_index_3
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> needle.
>What is this?

Man, you are a real piece of work, a true definition of a total
FuckWit.  Hey fuckhead, in case your IQ is below 3 or so, a lot of
people may want to use inhaled insulin.  Nor do many people enjoy
using needles.  Technology is moving away from using techniques that
carve up the human body.  If you desire to have your f.cking head up
your a.s and continue to use century's old techniques for delivering
meds, then that is your mucking business.  Don't you stand there as
the wholly grail and tell others what they must use to deliver meds.
You are so mucked up in the head that you can't see the forest through
the trees.  Crawl back under your rock your sick bastard.

>does Hi_there have stock in the company.  This is the SECOND piece of
>crap promoting a commercial product.  AND, neither puff piece mentions
>the dangers of inhaled insulin

Inhaled insulin is another form of insulin.  Use it if you want, if
not, do not stand there and tell other people that they cannot use it.
Your head is so mucked up that you have become to think that you are
the rule of law or some kind of god or something similar.  I am
promoting the use of inhaled insulin............................Hey
FUCKHEAD, the article is about inhaled insulin.  Who the f.ck are you
to stand there and tell me what the f.ck I can post?  f.ck OFF
a.shole.  Crawl back under your f.cking rock a.shole.

Ted Rosenberg, you are a real lunatic in need of mental care.  I
suggest you spend some quality time with a sheep or a goat.  I doubt
you are getting any tail, so enjoy and maybe the mooooooooooooment
will rid you of your inner anger.
ted rosenberg - 31 Mar 2006 17:31 GMT
<snip>>>

> Man, you are a real piece of work, a true definition of a total
> FuckWit.  Hey fuckhead, in case your IQ is below 3 or so, a lot of
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> <snip>
I think that answers my question
Hi_there is behaving like someone who has a financial interest in the
dangerous stuff she is pushing.

And I thought she was just stupid.
David - 31 Mar 2006 17:39 GMT
> <snip>>>
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> And I thought she was just stupid.
I thought hi_there was someone named "Bruce"!  they are female??

Dave
ted rosenberg - 31 Mar 2006 18:23 GMT
>> <snip>>>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> Dave
I really don't know, in a message a few months ago, someone referred to
Hi_there as "she" .  I could be wrong as to gender, If I am, I
apologize, the error was not intentional (if it was an error??)

As to the meat of my complaint, anyone who follows diabetic meds knows
that inhaled insulin was held off of the market for about 4 years
because of concerns about safety and about difficulty in dosing.  It
finally made it out, but it is dangerous stuff, and MOST of us should
stay away from it.

Anyone who pops off like Hi_there did when confronted with FACTS is
obviously a danger.

[conflict of interest notice]  7 years ago, Lily gave me a cheap
ball-point pen, and, I THINK, a plastic cup  I only use Novolin Insulin,
and Novo hasn't given me anything.
Jenny - 01 Apr 2006 00:01 GMT
>> And I thought she was just stupid.
> I thought hi_there was someone named "Bruce"!  they are female??

DIFFERENT POSTING NAME.

Hi_Therre is how the person who posts here spells their handle.

--Jenny

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes  Diabetes Info

http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood
Sugar Under Control
David - 01 Apr 2006 00:27 GMT
>>> And I thought she was just stupid.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood
> Sugar Under Control
ok...you are saying there is one male with 2 "r"s and a female with one
"r" in their screen name?  I need a scorecard...

Dave
Alan S - 01 Apr 2006 04:27 GMT
>>> And I thought she was just stupid.
>> I thought hi_there was someone named "Bruce"!  they are female??
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood
>Sugar Under Control

Noted. The style and method of expressing anger is also
different. Doesn't change my response to Ted - but thanks
for the heads-up.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Alan S - 31 Mar 2006 21:47 GMT
>I think that answers my question
>Hi_there is behaving like someone who has a financial interest in the
>dangerous stuff she is pushing.
>
>And I thought she was just stupid.

No Ted.

Hi_Therre is justifiably angry because you made a mistake by
jumping in boots and all without bothering to check your
facts - as usual; then didn't have the balls to admit you
were wrong and apologise.

Read that again. Then read the thread. Have you got the guts
to say sorry?

Don't bother answering me, I'm not interested.  If you're a
man you can answer him with an apology.

Alan, T2, Australia.
ted rosenberg - 01 Apr 2006 02:39 GMT
>>I think that answers my question
>>Hi_there is behaving like someone who has a financial interest in the
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Alan, T2, Australia.
Alan,
I did read BOTH threads of misinformation which the Hi_tere started

I also noted that he/she/it is behaving more and more like I rained on
it's parade.

After the first post, I thought it just wasn't very bright,

After the second post I KNEW it wasn't very bright, and had some doubts
about motive

NOW, I don't think that there is any doubt about motive
Hi_There - 31 Mar 2006 22:28 GMT
><snip>>>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
>And I thought she was just stupid.

FO a.shole
Temujin - 01 Apr 2006 16:12 GMT
We should rename this group alt.support.anger management
 
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