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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Making Progress
I've been taking two 500mg Metformin a day now for about three weeks and religiously watching what I'm eating and I'm finally starting to see some definite progress. I was diagnosed on Feb 22 and started the meds on the 28th. The doctor had told me to just eat normally for the first week, recording everything I eat and testing two hours after each meal or snack and recording those numbers. That did more to spur me to give up the foods I've eaten for years, like chicken fried rice, spaghetti and garlic bread, Cheerios with sliced bananas, dumplings, stuffing, fried potatoes and the like. Seeing with my own eyes what that was doing to my BG readings made a believer out of me, I can tell you! For the past month, I've been eating no processed carbs, bread, rice, pasta, stuff like that. I have some friends who are diabetic who have helped me a lot with meal ideas, telling me that sometimes it's the combination of carbs with fats and proteins that works. I'm like a sponge for all this new information and have been a little obsessed with all this all month. I've eaten eggs, lean meat, chicken, lots of veggies (raw and steamed) and some fruits, testing after everything. I have noticed that my FBG is always a little high (in the 115-120 range) no matter what I do, but lurking in here and reading about that dawn "liver dump" has kept me from pulling my hair out. This week, aside from the higher FBG, my numbers have stayed in the 90-120 range every time I test. So this morning, I decided to live dangerously and added a single slice of whole wheat toast with a little margarine on it to my 2 egg/chopped green onion/bacon bits omelet. God, it was good! I savored every bite, didn't leave a single crumb. It was ambrosia! LOL And my meter read 120 at the two hour mark after that meal! Oh, and I have to say that I discovered over the weekend that I can eat strawberries, too, with absolutely NO spike afterwards. I sliced them and sprinkled Splenda on them, then ate a bowlful with a little bit of lite whipped cream (aerosol can style) on top. I felt like I'd died and gone straight to heaven! <happy dance> I had an eye exam with an opthamologist last Thursday and learned there is no damage to my eyes at all, so I'm extremely grateful for that. I'll see my doctor again this Thursday and will ask if increasing the Metformin to 3x a day will help that early morning spike. Jeanie >I've been taking two 500mg Metformin a day now for about three weeks and >religiously watching what I'm eating and I'm finally starting to see [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >Jeanie Hi Jeanie Congratulations. Pleasing to see a doctor who suggests both meal logging and testing. And great news on the eyes! Now that you've completed the apprenticeship, time to move to the next level. Try adding one extra test to each meal - one hour after you finish. I take 2x500mg metformin too. I improved my morning spike when I switched from taking it with lunch and dinner to dinner and late supper. YMMV Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg  SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Hi Jeanie > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg The doctor had told me to take the Metformin with breakfast and dinner. I'll try taking it a bit later in the day to see if that will help. I'll have to get her to increase the prescription for my testing strips if I add another test to the mix, too. I'll run out before I can fill it again and my insurance will probably holler at me. I cannot afford to buy the strips without using my insurance. The insurance is costing quite a chunk out of my husband's paycheck as it is, and I'm taking a couple of other prescription drugs as well. We have a 25% co-pay for medicine, and with one kid in college and another one ready for it in another year, we have to watch the money pretty closely. Thanks for the advice. Jeanie > I'll have to get her to increase the prescription for my testing strips if > I add another test to the mix, too. Are you keeping a food / test log, Jeanie? If you are, you'll soon spot the patterns - and then you won't have to test (except very occasionally) for meals you eat regularly. You'll also learn when you need to test both at one and two hours for a new meal, and when a one-hour will do. There's also no law that says you have to test every meal - you could concentrate on breakfast one day, and lunch on another. Similarly, when you get your fasting reasonably steady, you needn't test it every day - every other day, or even weekly, might do, unless you're testing the effect of a bedtime snack or glass of wine or whatever. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >> Hi Jeanie >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Jeanie Hi Jeanie Simple. Try changing, for one meal a day, to one-hour instead of two. Same number of test strips - and I doubt the doctor will object. Do it for a week each for breakfast, then lunch, then dinner. Read this again to see why: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm If strip costs are a major problem - you now know enough to eat a dinner and lunch that won't spike you, although they may become boring. You could concentrate on testing after breakfast for a week until you get it right, then lunch, then dinner and so on. As you discover the information you will gradually reduce the need to test as often; no need to keep re-confirming that steak doesn't spike you and cereal does. It won't work as quickly, but it will work, and it will be cheaper. Ignoring the one-hour post-prandial (or, more accurately, not finding your peak) may be more expensive in the long run. Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureI have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>>Hi Jeanie >>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Do it for a week each for breakfast, then lunch, then > dinner. Good idea. > If strip costs are a major problem - you now know enough to > eat a dinner and lunch that won't spike you, although they [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg Yes, I have learned enough from the month of testing I've done already to know which foods are safe for me to eat. So, I don't have to test after every meal anymore. The doctor actually told me to test twice a day and gave me the prescription accordingly. Jeanie >Yes, I have learned enough from the month of testing I've done already >to know which foods are safe for me to eat. So, I don't have to test >after every meal anymore. The doctor actually told me to test twice a >day and gave me the prescription accordingly. > >Jeanie Jeanie, I wish you the very best - but we just aren't on the same wavelength here. You've made a great start - but you won't conquer this in a month, or a year. Unless you intend following the most incredibly boring diet in the world - you will be testing other foods, other exercise patterns, other menus. For that, twice daily just isn't enough in the second month. Have you actually read that link by Jennifer yet? Best wishes Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>Yes, I have learned enough from the month of testing I've done already >>to know which foods are safe for me to eat. So, I don't have to test [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg Yes, I did. And I think I didn't make myself clear. Sorry about that. The doctor told me to test twice a day, but I know I have to test more often than that if I'm to learn what I can eat and what I can't eat. Since I'm keeping a detailed log about what goes into my mouth and what the resulting meter readings are, I have begun to learn what foods and combinations have consistently worked so far, so I now know I don't need to test after a meal of "known" foods, unless something else is added to the mix (like an illness, extra exercise, that sort of thing). But since the prescription I currently have is for only 100 strips a month, I have to be more judicial about when I test. I know that Jennifer's excellent link suggests that I test at both 1 hour and 2 hours after eating a food I'm not already familiar with, I have to be careful not to introduce too many new foods in one day. Either that, or ask for an increased amount of strips every month until my list of allowable foods for ME is long enough that I have a good assortment to choose from. Once I have tried all the fruits and things I might ever conceivably want to eat in a meal or a snack, I will probably try reintroducing, say, a bit of the stuffing I make with the pork chops for my family's dinner, or see how whole wheat pasta affects me, stuff like that. I know I won't ever know it all, and that this is going to be a long learning experience for me, but eventually I'm hoping to have enough knowledge to be able to make educated choices that I won't have to wonder about. Jeanie >>>Yes, I have learned enough from the month of testing I've done already >>>to know which foods are safe for me to eat. So, I don't have to test [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >Jeanie Hi Jeanie Keep at it. Good luck. I think I'd have a chat to the doc to explain what you're doing and see if the prescription could be increased. But best wishes in any case. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > The doctor actually told me to test twice a day and gave me the > prescription accordingly. My prescription is for one a day (although they seem to be OK with me using a box a month). I'm very grateful to the doc for subsidising my testing habit - and very grateful I stopped smoking before dx, so I could afford to test : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg This post not CC'd by email On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:37:36 GMT, Jeanie <taureanmoon@yahoo.com> wrote: >I've been taking two 500mg Metformin a day now for about three weeks and >religiously watching what I'm eating and I'm finally starting to see >some definite progress. I was diagnosed on Feb 22 and started the meds >on the 28th. The doctor had told me to just eat normally for the first >week, recording everything I eat and testing two hours after each meal >or snack and recording those numbers. G'day G'day Jeanie, You doctor deserves a medal. What a wonderfully empowering approach he or she has. Testing is pointless unless accompanied by learning and you were given permission to learn. What also impressed me is that the doctor's instructions helped you establish a base line ... your very own baseline. Each of us is unique. Uniqueness takes on new meaning when dealing with diabetes. We rave on a bit from time to time with comments like, "Your mileage may very" so often in fact we code it as YMMV. >That did more to spur me to give up the foods I've eaten for years, like >chicken fried rice, spaghetti and garlic bread, Cheerios with sliced >bananas, dumplings, stuffing, fried potatoes and the like. Seeing with >my own eyes what that was doing to my BG readings made a believer out of >me, I can tell you! Hey, you are driving your own bus, deciding for yourself what works and doesn't work for you. The past is past and you are free to chose a future that really works for you. >For the past month, I've been eating no processed carbs, bread, rice, >pasta, stuff like that. I have some friends who are diabetic who have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >all this all month. I've eaten eggs, lean meat, chicken, lots of >veggies (raw and steamed) and some fruits, testing after everything. It is amazing how much others can contribute if you learn to listen to their experiences and notice who is being successful and who is not. It pays to model more along the lines of those who are successful. >I have noticed that my FBG is always a little high (in the 115-120 >range) no matter what I do, but lurking in here and reading about that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >didn't leave a single crumb. It was ambrosia! LOL And my meter read >120 at the two hour mark after that meal! Green onion/bacon bit omelette. Those green onions mop up some of free radicals from having bacon. Details like that matter long term. You are already getting smart. If you can buy bread that has its GI indicated on the wrapping. Such bread is available here. Look for one with a GI as low as thirty. You can manage some grains ... sometimes. The trick is to go for whole grains, not just wholemeal. >Oh, and I have to say that I discovered over the weekend that I can eat >strawberries, too, with absolutely NO spike afterwards. I sliced them >and sprinkled Splenda on them, then ate a bowlful with a little bit of >lite whipped cream (aerosol can style) on top. I felt like I'd died and >gone straight to heaven! It seldom occurs to newcomers that strawberries and other berries are foods most diabetics really should eat if they are available. ><happy dance> > >I had an eye exam with an opthamologist last Thursday and learned there >is no damage to my eyes at all, so I'm extremely grateful for that. >I'll see my doctor again this Thursday and will ask if increasing the >Metformin to 3x a day will help that early morning spike. Keep up the greens etc and you have good chance of keeping them healthy. >Jeanie Congratulation on making such an intelligent start. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > G'day G'day Jeanie, > You doctor deserves a medal. What a wonderfully empowering approach > he or she has. Testing is pointless unless accompanied by learning [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > time with comments like, "Your mileage may very" so often in fact we > code it as YMMV. This doctor is a real gem. We had been using another doctor for many, many years. He was a guy I'd gone to high school with and we trusted him completely, but started noticing that he wasn't on the ball as much as we needed him to be. I had a physical last October shortly after I turned 50 because I'd never really had one before. I only went to the doctor if I was sick. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality. We live on a budget and have been raising kids for 32 years. Mom comes last in a situation like that. Anyway, I have gained weight slowly over the years and thought I might have a thyroid imbalance or something, so decided to have a workup. My bloodwork showed that my triglycerides were at 394 and my FBG that day was only 59. Cholesterol was 209, HDL = 31, LDL = 99. My old doctor just put me on Tricor 145mg and that was that. My thyroid was fine. But I still had a feeling that something just wasn't right. Diabetes runs in my mother's family and my oldest daughter is an LPN and she was alarmed at my triglyceride level. So I decided to switch doctors. At my first visit, she took one look at those lab results from the fall and order a GTT. A week later, my labs were Chol = 204, Trig = 103, HDL = 46, LDL = 137. I'm going to be working on those numbers as well. > Hey, you are driving your own bus, deciding for yourself what works > and doesn't work for you. The past is past and you are free to chose a > future that really works for you. And that is the key to the whole thing for me, really. I find it much easier to think of a better future than to dwell on things I used to eat in the past and can't eat again. I know that DM is a progressive disease, but if I can get control over it, perhaps I can postpone that progression until I am in my 80s. People have to die of something after all, don't they? <g> > It is amazing how much others can contribute if you learn to listen to > their experiences and notice who is being successful and who is not. > It pays to model more along the lines of those who are successful. Well, I will be the first to admit that though I might know a lot about a lot of things, I was completely ignorant on this subject. > Green onion/bacon bit omelette. Those green onions mop up some of free > radicals from having bacon. It wasn't real bacon, though. It was those dehydrated vegetable-based "bits" like you sprinkle on a salad. They add a little taste without the fat. Though I do eat a strip or two of bacon with my eggs once in a while, just not often. Details like that matter long term. You > are already getting smart. If you can buy bread that has its GI > indicated on the wrapping. Such bread is available here. Look for one > with a GI as low as thirty. You can manage some grains ... sometimes. > The trick is to go for whole grains, not just wholemeal. Well, that is a real problem for me since I live in a pretty rural area. The largest town around here only has about 12,000 pop and the little wide place in the road where I live has about 3300. Our grocery stores don't stock a large variety. I really don't want to have to drive for an hour or two to get to a larger store just to buy groceries every week. The Krogers about 9 miles away where I usually shop used to stock all kinds of "low-carb" foods, including Atkins bread and stuff like that, but they don't anymore. I spoke to the store manager about it last weekend, in fact. He said, "That fad seems to be over." I pointed out to him that I am diabetic and I'm pretty sure there must be hundreds of other diabetics like me living in southern Illinois and for us, it isn't a "fad." I think he understood me and I'm hoping they'll start stocking at least one brand of a lower GI bread soon. For now, a whole wheat or whole multi-grain bread is about as good as I can do. > It seldom occurs to newcomers that strawberries and other berries are > foods most diabetics really should eat if they are available. Well, it didn't occur to me until one of my diabetic friends mentioned it. I was thinking that most fruits were just off the list now for me. I was so happy to discover that I can still eat strawberries! > Congratulation on making such an intelligent start. > > Best wishes, Thank you! Jeanie >> Hey, you are driving your own bus, deciding for yourself what works >> and doesn't work for you. The past is past and you are free to chose a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >progression until I am in my 80s. People have to die of something after >all, don't they? <g> Wonderful attitude. Like many of us posting here, you are going to look back on that diagnosis as the day you started improving your health. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. This post not CC'd by email On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:56:51 GMT, Jeanie <taureanmoon@yahoo.com> wrote: > > G'day G'day Jeanie, >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >31, LDL = 99. My old doctor just put me on Tricor 145mg and that was >that. My thyroid was fine. G'day G'day Jeanie, The triglyceride:HDL ratio was very high. Put simply the triglycerides were way to high and the HDL was way too low. That was an indicator of insulin resistance, a precursor of T2 diabetes. At that time you would seem to have been still producing plenty of insulin as your FBG was definitely low. Unfortunately many of us have paid tragic prices when we failed to get to a GP early enough or had a GP who didn't recognise and spell out the significance of the warning signs. What I admire so much even though we have never met is that you have moved on without rancor. >But I still had a feeling that something just wasn't right. Diabetes >runs in my mother's family and my oldest daughter is an LPN and she was >alarmed at my triglyceride level. So I decided to switch doctors. At >my first visit, she took one look at those lab results from the fall and >order a GTT. A week later, my labs were Chol = 204, Trig = 103, HDL = >46, LDL = 137. I'm going to be working on those numbers as well. The HDL is improving. The triglycerides have improved. The total cholesterol appears to have improved but this is due to reduction in the triglyceride component not the LDL. >> Hey, you are driving your own bus, deciding for yourself what works >> and doesn't work for you. The past is past and you are free to chose a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >progression until I am in my 80s. People have to die of something after >all, don't they? <g> True. As importantly we must also take care of the various organs of our bodies so we can enjoy living into our 80s. Eyesight for example needs special attention. You learn the ropes in seemingly no time at all because you're dealing with things in a matter of fact manner. >> It is amazing how much others can contribute if you learn to listen to >> their experiences and notice who is being successful and who is not. >> It pays to model more along the lines of those who are successful. > >Well, I will be the first to admit that though I might know a lot about >a lot of things, I was completely ignorant on this subject. It's a good place to start ... better than starting with preconceptions. They take some undoing. >> Green onion/bacon bit omelette. Those green onions mop up some of free >> radicals from having bacon. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >the fat. Though I do eat a strip or two of bacon with my eggs once in a >while, just not often. Sounds like a reasonable choice. >Details like that matter long term. You >> are already getting smart. If you can buy bread that has its GI [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >stocking at least one brand of a lower GI bread soon. For now, a whole >wheat or whole multi-grain bread is about as good as I can do. A poster once wrote asking what sort of bread they should eat. Another poster succinctly replied, "What's bread?" Bread isn't actually necessary for a balanced diet. Many T2s do better if they replace bread with whole grain rye wafers like Ryvita or Kavli. Frankly I'm not a fan of low-carb breads. That probably means I have some sort of prejudice against foods that aren't close to natural products. To me the celebrity endorsed diet foods smack of being junk food with hype. Count me amongst those who would prefer to stick to foods made with the minimum of processing. >> It seldom occurs to newcomers that strawberries and other berries are >> foods most diabetics really should eat if they are available. >> >Well, it didn't occur to me until one of my diabetic friends mentioned >it. I was thinking that most fruits were just off the list now for me. > I was so happy to discover that I can still eat strawberries! Any berries are likely to be good. >> Congratulation on making such an intelligent start. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Jeanie Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin . My bloodwork showed that my triglycerides >>were at 394 and my FBG that day was only 59. Cholesterol was 209, HDL = >>31, LDL = 99. My old doctor just put me on Tricor 145mg and that was [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > signs. What I admire so much even though we have never met is that > you have moved on without rancor. Well, I've always believed that rancor is a waste of energy that's better used elsewhere. I'm disappointed that the first doctor didn't catch that, and I have written him a letter telling him why I decided to switch doctors. I think it's important that he is aware that he made a mistake, but I'm just thankful the next doctor caught it immediately and there wasn't a lapse of several months or years when I'd have gone on blissfully unaware of the damage I was doing to my own body. I know now, and that's the important thing. >>But I still had a feeling that something just wasn't right. Diabetes >>runs in my mother's family and my oldest daughter is an LPN and she was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the triglyceride component not the LDL. > Yes, and I will start working on the cholesterol as soon as I get a better handle on the diabetes. Changing my diet to cut out carbs is the first step. I'll worry about cutting out cholesterol in a little while. The doctor may decide to put me on a cholesterol medication, which I think would be good. If I have to start restricting my intake of eggs and meat, it will only further restrict what I can choose from. I know me. If things get too restricted, I'm apt to say to hell with all of it and just eat what I want. I don't want to be tempted to do that. > True. As importantly we must also take care of the various organs of > our bodies so we can enjoy living into our 80s. Eyesight for example > needs special attention. You learn the ropes in seemingly no time at > all because you're dealing with things in a matter of fact manner. > I think that's how I approach life most of the time, really. Facts are difficult to change so I'd better learn to deal with what is. > A poster once wrote asking what sort of bread they should eat. > Another poster succinctly replied, "What's bread?" [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > stick to foods made with the minimum of processing. > Yes, ideally I do, too. But lifestyle has to be considered as well. Many times I eat on the run, especially on weekends, or we eat at someone else's house or something. Being able to eat bread of some kind means that I can make a quick sandwich and dash out the door. It's not always convenient to cook three times a day, and you can't exist very long on cheese sticks and a bag of carrots in your purse. <g> If my husband decides to make a weekend trip, I want to go along and that might mean eating only once a day at a fast food place. That's how he travels. Jeanie > Yes, and I will start working on the cholesterol as soon as I get a better > handle on the diabetes. Changing my diet to cut out carbs is the first > step. With luck, that will do the trick. It should certainly knock the trigs on the head. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg > I've been taking two 500mg Metformin a day now for about three weeks and > religiously watching what I'm eating and I'm finally starting to see some > definite progress. Good for you, Jeanie : ) > Seeing with my own eyes what that was doing to my BG readings made a > believer out of me, I can tell you! Yeah. Absolutely fantastic advice, thanks again, Jennifer! > I have noticed that my FBG is always a little high (in the 115-120 range) > no matter what I do, but lurking in here and reading about that dawn > "liver dump" has kept me from pulling my hair out. Yeah. It's still a couple of weeks early for the met to reach full effect. > So this morning, I decided to live dangerously and added a single slice of > whole wheat toast with a little margarine on it to my 2 egg/chopped green > onion/bacon bits omelet. God, it was good! I savored every bite, didn't > leave a single crumb. It was ambrosia! LOL And my meter read 120 at the > two hour mark after that meal! Looks promising - but check that you're not going too high at the 1-hour mark too. > Oh, and I have to say that I discovered over the weekend that I can eat > strawberries, too, with absolutely NO spike afterwards. I sliced them and > sprinkled Splenda on them, then ate a bowlful with a little bit of lite > whipped cream (aerosol can style) on top. I felt like I'd died and gone > straight to heaven! : ) My current fave is blueberries. Raspberries are nice to me too, as are plums. I eat peaches and apples when I'm out walking. Some people are OK with melons - they spike me bigtime, but I can eat some pineapple where some can't. > I had an eye exam with an opthamologist last Thursday and learned there is > no damage to my eyes at all, so I'm extremely grateful for that. Excellent : ) Well done all round. How's the exercise coming on? Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg > Excellent : ) > > Well done all round. How's the exercise coming on? > > Nicky. I'm up to five walks a day, usually about 4 to 8 blocks each time. I still can't walk for longer than about 20 minutes without hip and back pain (for a long time afterwards, too!) but I'm working on it. Jeanie >> Excellent : ) >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > still can't walk for longer than about 20 minutes without hip and back > pain (for a long time afterwards, too!) but I'm working on it. OK, you're going to make it - I really admire people who take the time to learn, and put it all in to practice! Good for you! Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg > Oh, and I have to say that I discovered over the weekend that I can eat > strawberries, too, with absolutely NO spike afterwards. I sliced them > and sprinkled Splenda on them, then ate a bowlful with a little bit of > lite whipped cream (aerosol can style) on top. I felt like I'd died and > gone straight to heaven! Great work! Now that you've established that carbohydrates are your problem, it is time to get yourself one of those books that list the carbohydrate count of just about any food and start browsing to find out what other foods you might not have thought of are low carb and in what portion size. This will give you a lot more food options without your having to test thousands of times to find out what they do for your blood sugar. Start with the assumption that you don't want to eat any meal with more than 15 grams of carbohydrate and see what foods will fit that profile. You'll find lots and lots of vegetables, including some surprises, like Jicama, other berries--blueberries and raspberries, small servings of papaya, many nuts (but they are all different so look them up!), and a lot more. The book "Protein Power" has a list of foods and portion sizes and the carb count in each portion which I found very helpful when I was starting out controlling with a low carb diet. They also suggest what you can eat in restaurants safely. You can find copies of "Protein Power" in the library if you don't want to buy it. Check it out! --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> Oh, and I have to say that I discovered over the weekend that I can >> eat strawberries, too, with absolutely NO spike afterwards. I sliced [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > --Jenny Thanks, Jenny. I've got a couple of websites bookmarked and will search for more. The little town I live in has a very tiny library with not a lot of books in it, mostly fiction, so that's not really an option for me. But I will look around at book stores for books like that. Jeanie > Thanks, Jenny. I've got a couple of websites bookmarked and will search > for more. The little town I live in has a very tiny library with not a > lot of books in it, mostly fiction, so that's not really an option for > me. But I will look around at book stores for books like that. > > Jeanie You can buy a copy of Protein Power--the small paperback which is the version you want-- used on Amazon for pennies plus postage. Doesn't your small town library have Interlibrary loan? I live in a rural region but I can order any book in the Western part of our state and have it delivered to my local (tiny) library for free. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control Ah, my expertise. Yes, Jeanie, your library should be able to order books on interlibrary loan - first, through your area library system. If that fails the system will move outside to the state system. It keeps changing name, but I believe it's called I-Share now. You won't get something like Protein Power from my library - it's academic - but your regional system can use any public library in the state. If you have trouble get in touch with me through the email on the message. When I know where you are I can get more detailed information on how to go about it. Susan Adair > Ah, my expertise. Yes, Jeanie, your library should be able to order > books on interlibrary loan - first, through your area library system. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Susan Adair Thanks! Jeanie >> Thanks, Jenny. I've got a couple of websites bookmarked and will >> search for more. The little town I live in has a very tiny library [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > --Jenny I'm not sure if it does or not. I'll have to check. I was only in there once and I've lived here for six years. I took a look around and realized that I've got more books in my house than they do in that building. LOL Jeanie Jeanie, welcome to our group. You sound so up and so happy. It is great to be in control of something that doesnt control you. You are doing great and I know that will continue. Congrats. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. |
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