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David - 25 Mar 2006 17:18 GMT
Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum until I
have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is making my task
difficult, but I'm resolved to say nothing to him during his argument
with Roger. <g>

Dave
Loretta Eisenberg - 25 Mar 2006 18:10 GMT
It looks good to me David.  

one thread at a time, one post at a time, one day at a time :-)

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 18:56 GMT
I think you're doing wonderfully David. You and Mary have great
information to share, and that's a good thing.

--
Cheri

David wrote in message ...
>Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum until I
>have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is making my task
>difficult, but I'm resolved to say nothing to him during his argument
>with Roger. <g>
>
>Dave
Roger Zoul - 25 Mar 2006 19:33 GMT
:: Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum
:: until I have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is
:: making my task difficult, but I'm resolved to say nothing to him
:: during his argument with Roger. <g>
::
:: Dave

Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 20:36 GMT
I think you're doing fine Roger. Peter ran into some problems when he
came to the group too, since he was well controlled with LC and already
knew what worked for him. I wish he would have stayed around, and I'm
glad that you are. :-)

--
Cheri

>:: Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum
>:: until I have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is
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>
>Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?
Roger Zoul - 25 Mar 2006 20:47 GMT
:: I think you're doing fine Roger. Peter ran into some problems when he
:: came to the group too, since he was well controlled with LC and
:: already knew what worked for him. I wish he would have stayed
:: around, and I'm glad that you are. :-)

Thanks.  Which Peter?  Marengo?

:: --
:: Cheri
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:::
::: Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 21:28 GMT
Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all that
(there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen, cause he left
soon afterwards.

--
Cheri

>Thanks.  Which Peter?  Marengo?
>
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>:::
>::: Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?
Roger Zoul - 25 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
:: Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all
:: that (there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen,
:: cause he left soon afterwards.

Interesting. I've so-far only been called a dickhead, idiot, and moron
(those are the ones that quickly come ot mind).    Of course, I lack tact,
too, but tact usually means more effort and IMO, you shouldn't expect that
on usenet (not saying it's not nice to get, but it can't be expected).

:: --
:: Cheri
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
::::::
:::::: Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?
Susan - 25 Mar 2006 23:17 GMT
> Interesting. I've so-far only been called a dickhead, idiot, and moron
> (those are the ones that quickly come ot mind).    Of course, I lack tact,
> too, but tact usually means more effort and IMO, you shouldn't expect that
> on usenet (not saying it's not nice to get, but it can't be expected).

You're always civil, as a rule, and especially in the face of truly
noxious behavior from others.  You always have your dignity intact, even
when you lose your cool.

It was really ugly when Peter came here, an example of how folks will
sometimes leap to judgment and call others names, try to marginalize
them to keep them from getting any benefit of support here.  Just for
saying he controlled his diabetes with Atkins.

Susan
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 23:48 GMT
Knowing who Peter is, it hurt me for him. One of the nicest guys on
usenet, IMO. If people only knew how much they could have learned from
him before "caning him." They might still have done it. <sigh>

Cheri

>It was really ugly when Peter came here, an example of how folks will
>sometimes leap to judgment and call others names, try to marginalize
>them to keep them from getting any benefit of support here.  Just for
>saying he controlled his diabetes with Atkins.
>
>Susan
Susan - 25 Mar 2006 23:51 GMT
>  Knowing who Peter is, it hurt me for him. One of the nicest guys on
> usenet, IMO. If people only knew how much they could have learned from
> him before "caning him." They might still have done it. <sigh>

That was exactly how I felt; I was so hurt for him, he didn't know WTF
he'd innocently walked into.

Susan
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 23:59 GMT
Geez Susan, Ain't that the truth. Wanted to put my arms around him and
say...It's OK, but knowing Peter, he's always OK. He's a special guy
IMO. :-)

--
Cheri

>x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
>Susan
Kurt - 25 Mar 2006 23:52 GMT
> It was really ugly when Peter came here, an example of how folks will
> sometimes leap to judgment and call others names, try to marginalize
> them to keep them from getting any benefit of support here.  Just for
> saying he controlled his diabetes with Atkins.

Same can be said for anyone who supports the ADA.  Welcome to the
sandbox.

Kurt
Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 00:00 GMT
You're moving sand too? Hopefully, your'e more polite. ;-)

--
Cheri

Kurt wrote in message
<1143327131.859119.209840@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>...

>> It was really ugly when Peter came here, an example of how folks will
>> sometimes leap to judgment and call others names, try to marginalize
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>
>Kurt
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 23:41 GMT
Take heart sweetie, you haven't been called JC here yet. ;-)

--
Cheri

>:: Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all
>:: that (there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen,
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>too, but tact usually means more effort and IMO, you shouldn't expect that
>on usenet (not saying it's not nice to get, but it can't be expected).
Grandpa Chuck - 26 Mar 2006 00:49 GMT
>:: Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all
>:: that (there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>too, but tact usually means more effort and IMO, you shouldn't expect that
>on usenet (not saying it's not nice to get, but it can't be expected).

I try, although sometimes I fail, to only say things here that I would
say if we were setting face-to-face. I strive for progress, not
perfection.
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Ozgirl - 26 Mar 2006 01:41 GMT
>:: Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all
>:: that (there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen,
>:: cause he left soon afterwards.
>
> Interesting. I've so-far only been called a dickhead, idiot, and moron
> (those are the ones that quickly come ot mind).

Then you are doing well ;) I can't repeat some of the things
I have been called ;)
Alan S - 26 Mar 2006 09:06 GMT
>:: Yes, he had a horrible time here. Accused of being a troll and all
>:: that (there's a shock ;-) ) and I was sorry to see that happen,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>too, but tact usually means more effort and IMO, you shouldn't expect that
>on usenet (not saying it's not nice to get, but it can't be expected).

When I moved out of my driving seat and into the cab company
as Operations Manager, I was told by my senior shift
supervisor that I would know when I was having some useful
effect on disciplining cab drivers when my name appeared on
the toilet wall. With suitable adjectives and anatomically
impossible painful suggestions.

Took less than a month:-)

However, making the effort for tact can be rather useful if
your intent is to persuade rather than just vent.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 09:46 GMT
LOL Alan. They didn't know just how useful you would be here, obviously,
though you have been called a name or two. :-)

--
Cheri

Alan S wrote in message ...

>When I moved out of my driving seat and into the cab company
>as Operations Manager, I was told by my senior shift
>supervisor that I would know when I was having some useful
>effect on disciplining cab drivers when my name appeared on
>the toilet wall. With suitable adjectives and anatomically
>impossible painful suggestions.
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 21:19 GMT
You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the culture of
this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the nonsense, though...
I hope you will be a regular for quite a long time. You have already made
some good contributions, and most of us really appreciate you, I think.

Will, T2
Roger Zoul - 25 Mar 2006 21:32 GMT
:: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
:: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
:: nonsense, though...

That is so true.  I did lurk in here a while before posting, but obviously
not long enough to understand this culture.  I did gather that not everyone
here does LC, though, and that was no big surprise.

I hope you will be a regular for quite a long
:: time. You have already made some good contributions, and most of us
:: really appreciate you, I think.
::
:: Will, T2
bantista - 27 Mar 2006 03:36 GMT
> :: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
> :: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
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> ::
> :: Will, T2

Hello, Will and Roger,

What's the what? You are both big time help to this casual association of
very sick individuals (by which I mean physically ill with diseases of
various kinds and not the other thing) who are also adults with their own
quirks and manners. Some of them give me grief from time to time, and I'm a
wonderful human being and a light unto the world, so that's the nature of
the field on which we play when posting. Naturally, I can't point to a
double-blind human study that proves my last assertion; so, I'm toast. And
whenever one posts, one is probably going to be shot down by someone for
something, but I go on trying to be of some help and solace to someone.
Heck, I even wanted RK to keep posting, and RK regularly denigrated and
decried anything  I had to say. I'm sorry, my point is only that Roger you
are welcome and wanted in case there is any question about that, and Will
knows already that I wish to hear from him on any topic at any time he cares
to write.

Keep on keeping on, and don't die or go away.

Best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 143 after 3 in. sq. lasangia. Rats. A little
higher than I wanted to see. ~one hour from finish.
W.M.McKee - 27 Mar 2006 03:58 GMT
>> :: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
>> :: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 143 after 3 in. sq. lasangia. Rats. A little
>higher than I wanted to see. ~one hour from finish.

Thank you so much, Rudy...

You know, you really are a light unto the world. Every day.

I love you, Rudy, and so do the rest of us, besides.

You are truly a great man, Rudy.  Please, I want you to keep on
keeping on, and do not ever stop... You are an inspiration to us all.

Will, T2
Roger Zoul - 27 Mar 2006 04:38 GMT
::: wmmckee@cox.net wrote:
::::: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
:: T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 143 after 3 in. sq. lasangia. Rats. A
:: little higher than I wanted to see. ~one hour from finish.

Thank you. :)
W.M.McKee - 27 Mar 2006 04:54 GMT
>> :: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
>> :: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 143 after 3 in. sq. lasangia. Rats. A little
>higher than I wanted to see. ~one hour from finish.

Rudy, you are a prince...  and what's more you are the genuine
article. A real and warm human being. I am sure I speak for all of us
in wishing you all good things as we move into the summer.

I have only one thing to ask of you, Rudy. Please don't you ever go
away!

Will, T2
W.M.McKee - 27 Mar 2006 04:56 GMT
>>> :: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
>>> :: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
>Will, T2

Sorry this seems to have basically posted twice... I did not see it,
so I posted again... sorry, sorry, sorry... But, the sentiment remains
the same. Rudy, you are OK in my book all day, any day!

Will, T2
bantista - 28 Mar 2006 06:01 GMT
>>>> :: You are OK, Roger... You might want to lay back and study the
>>>> :: culture of this group a bit, before you get sucked into some of the
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>
> Will, T2

Hey,

You guys are great. And I hope you are as well and happy as can be.

Well all of us who need to post here have plenty of trials and issues with
diseasese and conditions, and I just think if there is anything I can say to
someone that will make their load a little lighter or their day a little
brighter, then its worth taking the chance that I'll make a fool of myself.
The only thing I know I aboslutely don't want to do is to tell someone one
wrong thing, but I know Jenny and Jennifer are always willing to help out
when I screw up. Great humans all. Pretty good association we have the
opportunity to check in with here. Some of us are a bit abrasive at times,
but that's not unexpected. There are other groups that aren't so welcoming
and are more bitter with newcomers. I'm just glad to know everyone here and
listen to their lives and let them know that they are appreciated. Recently,
several of our ladies have lost their cats, and I just feel so horrible
about it. We are dog people, but our animal family members are so much a
part of our lives and so loving that I just wanted to send each of them a
hug. And we will never meet irl. I couldn't find the words to tell them how
much I appreciated their great loss. Nothing seems adequate. I wish I could
have helped them pass through it somehow. But I was lost. Support is hard.
Anyway, I appreciate your posts, guys. Glad to know you.

Have a great sleep, if you can, and soothing dreams.

Best regards,
rudy
bantisa@thuntek.net
T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 124.
Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Mar 2006 19:56 GMT
Rudy, thank you for such a wonderful post.  It buoys the spirits when
someone writes what you just did.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
bantista - 29 Mar 2006 04:47 GMT
> Rudy, thank you for such a wonderful post.  It buoys the spirits when
> someone writes what you just did.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.

Hello, Loretta,

You are a wonderful person and a great friend to us all.
Thanks for being here with us.

Best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 119
David - 27 Mar 2006 00:43 GMT
> :: Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum
> :: until I have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Thanks, Dave.  You're doing great.  I'm not, huh?

I didn't say that!  It wasn't you I was referring to.

dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 19:34 GMT
> I've been keeping mum until I
> have something on topic to say, as per my promise

Hello Dave,

You do not have to stay completely on topic, you know. You have a really
great personality and a wonderful sense of humor that you should feel free
to share on the common off-topic issues of life, as in a party among
friends. People talk about all sorts of things in here, not just diabetes.
To parody Oingo Boingo, this is not a dead man's (or diabetes) party! ;-)

Part of being supportive of each other in a group such as this includes
enjoyment of our common humanity in a friendly way.... For instance, I think
you are really good at that when you talk of your fondness of King Crab,
your love of popular music, your life with Mary, and not just when you are
talking diabetes. In a word, Dave, you are a genuine person. Don't
completely muzzle yourself. Just a suggestion from a friend who cares about
you.

Will, T2
David - 25 Mar 2006 21:02 GMT
>>I've been keeping mum until I
>>have something on topic to say, as per my promise
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Will, T2
How you doing Will?

Speaking of crab legs, I just scored some huge ones, after making calls
to three Safeway stores that advertised Colossal KCL for $10/lb.  They
all had the smaller legs, but one employee said he'd get me some large
ones in a couple of days.  I called him yesterday, and true to his word,
he said they came in.  I had all but given up on getting the nearly 1 lb
legs, so I bought 8 ea. of Collossal legs at Albertson's for $15/lb.  I
picked up 6 legs (if I had a bigger freezer I would have bought a lot
more) just to keep us in KCL for a while.  I was told the season is over
and don't expect them again until around September.  That's a heck of a
long time to go without KCL!!!  6 more weeks (2 legs per week) and then
withdrawal sets in... <g>

Dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 21:17 GMT
> How you doing Will?
>
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> ones in a couple of days.  I called him yesterday, and true to his word,
> he said they came in.

Hi Dave,

I'm OK... Had to go into the office for a while today to get caught up on
some work. I had to file an appellate brief in a murder case, which was a
real pain, because there was no basis for the appeal, except the man did not
like the 42 yrs he got for participating in a gang assault and attempted
robbery in which the victim, a complete stranger, was ultimately shot in the
head. Today was the deadline. It is a cool and cloudy day here on the East
Coast, anyway, so the office was not such a bad place to be.

Hope you and Mary are both well, and that you are over your cold... Sounds
like a really good deal on the KCL. I do very much understand your fondness
for those things.... :-)

Take care, and have a great weekend!

Will, T2
David - 25 Mar 2006 21:55 GMT
>>How you doing Will?
>>
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>
> Will, T2

Did anyone tell him don't do the crime if you can't afford the time? :)
 My sympathies lie with victims instead of the cry baby criminals that
inflict pain and mayhem on society.

I'm still sick.  I woke up with a start in the middle of the night,
choking on drainage in my throat.  I'll survive though. <g>  Mary's
doing fine--glad the weekend is here.

Dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 22:02 GMT
> Did anyone tell him don't do the crime if you can't afford the time? :)
>   My sympathies lie with victims instead of the cry baby criminals that
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> choking on drainage in my throat.  I'll survive though. <g>  Mary's
> doing fine--glad the weekend is here.

Actually, Dave, I agree with your sentiments about crime, completely. I used
to be a prosecutor, remember?

Sorry to hear you are still down with the cold. That sounds like it was a
scary wakeup for you in the middle of the night.

Hope you are better soon! :) Give my regards to Mary.....

Will, T2
David - 25 Mar 2006 22:09 GMT
>>Did anyone tell him don't do the crime if you can't afford the time? :)
>>  My sympathies lie with victims instead of the cry baby criminals that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Will, T2
Thanks, Will.  Mary is lurking today. Perhaps she'll post.

I was actually afraid to fall back asleep!  I don't recall being afraid
to go to sleep since April of 1996.

Yup, I remember you've walked both sides of the street.  I hope you put
your share of scum suckers away. <g>

Dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 22:15 GMT
> Yup, I remember you've walked both sides of the street.  I hope you put
> your share of scum suckers away. <g>

I have made arrangements for accomodations for a number of lifers in my
day.... :)

The thing is new crimes are occurring all the time. It reminds me of that
Woody Allen movie, I think it was Annie Hall, in which he was recollecting
images from his childhood, and he remembered having been disturbed as a
child (nerdy kid) at the realization that "the universe is expanding"......
That seems how it is with crime, in a way. If we let ourselves, we could get
quite upset at the thought that it seems to have increased almost
exponentially in our lifetimes. I realize that is not quite the case, but
does cause concern all the same.

Will, T2
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 21:31 GMT
David, do you like crawdads? Just curious, because I thought for many
years that they would be disgusting, but they are wonderful, and pretty
cheap. After living in Rio Vista CA for several years, I came to
appreciate them. Sort of a poor mans KCL, or lobster IMO. :-)

--
Cheri

David wrote in message ...
>Speaking of crab legs, I just scored some huge ones, after making calls
>to three Safeway stores that advertised Colossal KCL for $10/lb.  They
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Dave
Roger Zoul - 25 Mar 2006 21:49 GMT
:: David, do you like crawdads? Just curious, because I thought for many
:: years that they would be disgusting, but they are wonderful, and
:: pretty cheap. After living in Rio Vista CA for several years, I came
:: to appreciate them. Sort of a poor mans KCL, or lobster IMO. :-)

We used to fish crawdads out of the drainage ditches (in MS) with bacon on a
string when I was a kid.  Or, they'd drill skyward mounts out of the ground
after a heavy rain, and we'd get them.  Good eats.

:: --
:: Cheri
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:::
::: Dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 25 Mar 2006 21:59 GMT
> We used to fish crawdads out of the drainage ditches (in MS) with bacon on
> a
> string when I was a kid.  Or, they'd drill skyward mounts out of the
> ground
> after a heavy rain, and we'd get them.  Good eats.

Hi Roger,

I grew up in MS, just off campus from MS State Univ., and we must have had
about 500-1000 living in our back yard.... We had a large back yard, and
there used to be a pond on part of it.... We got rid of the pond, but the
crawfish are probably still there. It was a lot of fun catching them, from
time to time....:-) You probably know about picking blackberries and bass,
bream, and catfish fishing, too, I would guess. Then, there was the horse
riding.... Usually, our fruit trees would start blooming in late Feb, or
early March. It really was a great place to live most of the time, except
perhaps in the heat of the summer.

Will, T2
David - 25 Mar 2006 21:58 GMT
> David, do you like crawdads? Just curious, because I thought for many
> years that they would be disgusting, but they are wonderful, and pretty
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>>
>>Dave

Nope, never had crawdads.  The only seafoods I like are scallops (they
were $17/lb at Safeway yesterday--too pricy for me), lobster, and crab.
 You wouldn't catch me eating oysters or clams on a dare!  I'll just
say "no" to shrimp, too.

Dave
Cheri - 25 Mar 2006 22:28 GMT
If I had my choice, I would choose KCL first, scallops second over all
,but if you ever get the chance someday David, come to the Crawdad
Festival in Isleton CA. I think you and Mary would be pleasantly
surprised. :-)

--
Cheri

David wrote in message ...
>Nope, never had crawdads.  The only seafoods I like are scallops (they
>were $17/lb at Safeway yesterday--too pricy for me), lobster, and crab.
>  You wouldn't catch me eating oysters or clams on a dare!  I'll just
>say "no" to shrimp, too.
>
>Dave
Mary - 26 Mar 2006 05:03 GMT
Hmmm, Isleton...I'll have to look it up! Sounds like fun!

Mary

> If I had my choice, I would choose KCL first, scallops second over all
> ,but if you ever get the chance someday David, come to the Crawdad
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>>
>>Dave
Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 06:51 GMT
Mary, it's a lot of fun, usually around 100 thousand people over the
three day weekend, in the little tiny town of Isleton. When it comes
close to the time for the Crawdad Festival, I'll post it, and maybe you
and Dave can come, since it's not that far from where you are, and the
eats are great. Take care.

--
Cheri

>Hmmm, Isleton...I'll have to look it up! Sounds like fun!
>
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>>>
>>>Dave
Loretta Eisenberg - 26 Mar 2006 19:25 GMT
Mary, I have been wondering where you are.  I hope you are feeling good.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
David - 27 Mar 2006 00:42 GMT
> Mary, I have been wondering where you are.  I hope you are feeling good.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.

She's feeling better than I am! :)  She didn't catch the bug that I got
2 weeks ago.  I rarely get sick, so I suppose I have no reason to
complain...so I'm just "mentioning".  She's fixing dinner right
now--chicken in a brown gravy--yummy!

Dave
Mary - 26 Mar 2006 05:08 GMT
Oh, when is crawdad festival?  I'm willing to try anything!  Are
crawdads the same as crayfish?  We used to catch them when we were kids,
in freshwater lakes.  But I never knew they could be eaten!

Mary

> If I had my choice, I would choose KCL first, scallops second over all
> ,but if you ever get the chance someday David, come to the Crawdad
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>>Dave
Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 06:53 GMT
Yes, same thing. They cook them in many diffferent ways, from sauteed,
to deep fried. They're good. Just that little tail thing that is eaten,
so it takes a lot of them to fill one up, but well worth it IMO.

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Cheri

>Oh, when is crawdad festival?  I'm willing to try anything!  Are
>crawdads the same as crayfish?  We used to catch them when we were kids,
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>>>Dave
wmmckee@cox.net - 28 Mar 2006 00:58 GMT
> Yes, same thing. They cook them in many diffferent ways, from sauteed,
> to deep fried. They're good. Just that little tail thing that is eaten,
> so it takes a lot of them to fill one up, but well worth it IMO.
>
> --
> Cheri

Anyone ever have crawfish Crawfish Etouffée?.... great Cajun stuff, and
relatively friendly for diabetics!

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Mar 2006 19:42 GMT
Big Elvis song in King Creole, Will,  Elvis must have eaten it, but
since he is not in my building, I will pass.

Loretta

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Alan S - 26 Mar 2006 08:45 GMT
>> David, do you like crawdads? Just curious, because I thought for many
>> years that they would be disgusting, but they are wonderful, and pretty
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>Dave

Hi Dave

I just bought a cheap ($11.50) lobster and a dozen oysters
($8.50) from a roadside "fisho" van in Ulmarra on the way
home from a reunion.

The lobster is in the freezer; the oysters were done
"Kilpatrick" tonight - Worcestershire/tomato sauce, chopped
bacon, in the shell on a bed of rock-salt - for dinner with
a side Caesar salad.

Tasted marvellous just now for dinner. As to whether it was
safe to buy that way - ask me tomorrow morning if I survive
the night:-)

I also bought some cheap green prawns (shrimp to you), but I
won't be eating them. They're intended to provide bait for
larger things like bream and flathead.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 08:57 GMT
Alan, what is bream and flathead? This is funny because my sis-in-law,
whom I love dearly, met my bro-in-law on the internet and came here from
Australia. It took me awhile to understand her speech, but I have it
down pat now. If you are in the states, and the Lodi CA area on you walk
about, we would so much love it if you stopped by here. You would be
welcomed by all of us.

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>>> David, do you like crawdads? Just curious, because I thought for many
>>> years that they would be disgusting, but they are wonderful, and pretty
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Alan S - 26 Mar 2006 10:23 GMT
>Alan, what is bream and flathead? This is funny because my sis-in-law,
>whom I love dearly, met my bro-in-law on the internet and came here from
>Australia. It took me awhile to understand her speech, but I have it
>down pat now. If you are in the states, and the Lodi CA area on you walk
>about, we would so much love it if you stopped by here. You would be
>welcomed by all of us.

A bream (pr "brim") is a silvery salt-water fish, usually
about 8-12" long, sort of oval in shape and spiny along the
back.
http://fishnkids.dpi.nsw.gov.au/learn/images/bag-bream.jpg

A flat-head (aka "lizard") is a leathery-looking, brownish
green on top, flat looking fish which is wide at the head
and tapers to the tail. usually found in salt-water
estuaries and rivers, but often close off-shore on sand
bars. Can grow very large - but usually in the 12-20" range
for casual anglers.
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/2835.html

Both are marvellous eating.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 26 Mar 2006 10:34 GMT
Ty for explaining that to me, I had no idea what either of them were.

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>A bream (pr "brim") is a silvery salt-water fish, usually
>about 8-12" long, sort of oval in shape and spiny along the
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wmmckee@cox.net - 28 Mar 2006 01:14 GMT
> A bream (pr "brim") is a silvery salt-water fish, usually
> about 8-12" long, sort of oval in shape and spiny along the
> back.

Actually, there are also freshwater bream that would also go by the common
names of "Blue Gill" and "Sunfish" (scientific name: Lepomis macrochirus).
They are very common in Ohio and in the S.E. United States.... Sometimes,
they have been known to grow to as much as 7-10 inches, but frequently they
are only about 5 inches in length, depending upon crowding and food supply,
etc.

What Alan described as salt water bream, sounds quite similar to what we
call "Spot" here in the Mid-Atlantic (scientific name: Leiostomus
xanthurus)... They are frequently about 6-8 inches are are frequently caught
by surf fishermen on the beach, using blood worms or pieces of clams.

Will, T2

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Cheri - 28 Mar 2006 01:20 GMT
Well, I understand Bluegill, I used to love them fried up all nice a
crispy, after catching them at Meeks' Pond. Those were good days. Hope
you're having a good day Will, raining here right now. :-)

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wmmckee@cox.net wrote in message ...

>Actually, there are also freshwater bream that would also go by the common
>names of "Blue Gill" and "Sunfish" (scientific name: Lepomis macrochirus).
>They are very common in Ohio and in the S.E. United States.... Sometimes,
>they have been known to grow to as much as 7-10 inches, but frequently they
>are only about 5 inches in length, depending upon crowding and food supply,
>etc.
W.M.McKee - 28 Mar 2006 02:28 GMT
>Well, I understand Bluegill, I used to love them fried up all nice a
>crispy, after catching them at Meeks' Pond. Those were good days. Hope
>you're having a good day Will, raining here right now. :-)

Thanks, Cheri, I am fine. Today was a bright and sunny day here in the
East and the beginning a warming trend... It actually got up to about
58 F today.

Hope you stay dry in rainy CA! Hope you are OK, too:-)

Will, T2
David - 28 Mar 2006 02:26 GMT
>>Well, I understand Bluegill, I used to love them fried up all nice a
>>crispy, after catching them at Meeks' Pond. Those were good days. Hope
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> Will, T2
It's raining today, Will.  This is one of the wettest winters we have
had in a long time.

Dave
Cheri - 28 Mar 2006 02:30 GMT
Yep, and it's getting a tad tiresome, due to wanting to do some yard
stuff. :-)

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>It's raining today, Will.  This is one of the wettest winters we have
>had in a long time.
>
>Dave
David - 28 Mar 2006 02:33 GMT
> Yep, and it's getting a tad tiresome, due to wanting to do some yard
> stuff. :-)
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>>
>>Dave

We had a break in the weather yesterday, so I pulled weeds until my bg's
hit 46. :)

dave
W.M.McKee - 28 Mar 2006 03:26 GMT
>> Yep, and it's getting a tad tiresome, due to wanting to do some yard
>> stuff. :-)
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>
>dave

Hi Dave and Cheri,

If anything, we are unusually dry over here. I think it must have
something to do with La Niña.... "The Girl". This would be the
opposite of El Niño.... "The Child".. I understand that since December
there has been an unusually cold water mass in the Pacific, which
seems to be related to this weather phenomenon.

Hope you are both well, tonight :-)

Will, T2

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Cheri - 28 Mar 2006 03:45 GMT
My yard is just a soggy mess right now, and was yesterday too, due to a
large amount of rain on Saturday.

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David wrote in message ...

>> Yep, and it's getting a tad tiresome, due to wanting to do some yard
>> stuff. :-)
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>
>dave
Alan S - 28 Mar 2006 04:22 GMT
>We had a break in the weather yesterday, so I pulled weeds until my bg's
>hit 46. :)

Boyoboy - keep doing that and you may be pushing them up
rather than pulling them. Hope you had no ill effects.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 28 Mar 2006 19:38 GMT
I missed that part yesterday. I think I was looking at it as
temperature. That's pretty low isn't it David? Do you go low like that
often? Dunno that much about type 1 lows.

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Alan S wrote in message ...

>>We had a break in the weather yesterday, so I pulled weeds until my bg's
>>hit 46. :)
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Nicky - 28 Mar 2006 12:52 GMT
> Yep, and it's getting a tad tiresome, due to wanting to do some yard
> stuff. :-)

Feel free to send a little over here - you guys have been keeping it all to
yourselves this year! We're likely to get a hosepipe ban this summer, the
reservoirs are low after 3 dry years after each other.

Nicky.

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Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Mar 2006 19:46 GMT
Dave, I hope you are feeling better,  You seem to be under the weather
under the weather.

Loretta

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Roger Zoul - 28 Mar 2006 02:03 GMT
:: On 26-Mar-2006, Alan S <loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
::
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:: 7-10 inches, but frequently they are only about 5 inches in length,
:: depending upon crowding and food supply, etc.

These are what we frequently caught in MS.

:: What Alan described as salt water bream, sounds quite similar to
:: what we call "Spot" here in the Mid-Atlantic (scientific name:
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::
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Mary - 28 Mar 2006 02:08 GMT
Bluegill & sunfish are common in the northern states (i.e. MN).  The
flavor is great, but there are TONS of bones to avoid.  But the taste
makes it worth all the work...

Mary

>>A bream (pr "brim") is a silvery salt-water fish, usually
>>about 8-12" long, sort of oval in shape and spiny along the
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> : .
Grandpa Chuck - 26 Mar 2006 00:47 GMT
>Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum until I
>have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is making my task
>difficult,

Bovine feces!
I have been very respectful of Dave, as I said I would be. So far as I
know he still has me tucked away in his KF because he is afraid he
can't control his own temper. I hope that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

> but I'm resolved to say nothing to him during his argument
>with Roger. <g>
>
>Dave

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Ozgirl - 26 Mar 2006 01:47 GMT
>>Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum
>>until I have something on topic to say, as per my promise.
GC is
>>making my task difficult,
>
> Bovine feces!
> I have been very respectful of Dave, as I said I would be. So far as I
> know he still has me tucked away in his KF because he is afraid he
> can't control his own temper. I hope that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Well, it has been a few days for Dave, so looking good so
far :)
David - 26 Mar 2006 01:56 GMT
>>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:18:25 -0800, David
>
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> Well, it has been a few days for Dave, so looking good so
> far :)

I don't use a KF as a substitute for temper control... :)

It's just an accessory to improve the online experience!

dave
Alan S - 26 Mar 2006 08:36 GMT
>Hey Loretta, Cheri: How am I doing?? LOL.  I've been keeping mum until I
>have something on topic to say, as per my promise.  GC is making my task
>difficult, but I'm resolved to say nothing to him during his argument
>with Roger. <g>
>
>Dave

Not Loretta - but congratulations on your self-restraint.
And your final comment sounds like an excellent policy in
some of those threads. I'm trying to do the same now.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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