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2006 Garlic and Red Shallots Advance Orders
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galwaynygarlic@aol.com - 23 Mar 2006 19:21 GMT Hi, we are accepting advance orders for our 2006 Garlic and Red Shallot harvest. My family has both soft and hardneck garlic available. Good strains that we have been experimenting with in our garden now for a few years.
Garlic and Red Shallots cost 7.00 a pound plus shipping. One pound of Garlic or Red Shallots shipped USPS Priority Mail plus Delivery Confirmation is about 5.00, or a little more, depending on your zip code. No beefed up handling charges. Once again, shipping is cost only.
Our Garlic and Red Shallots are free of any chemical additives. No chlorine water either, the garden is watered by the rain and our well.
Elsewhere, you'll easily pay 16.00 or more a pound for Certified Organic Garlic. We don't want the paperwork hassle nor the extra expense of becoming "Certified Organic".
We respond via email with payment address to people interested in buying our produce. Checks that hit our Galway, New York post office box and PAYPAL customers receive an email confirmation that we have your order.
Harvesting is at the end of August, and shipment is early to mid September. Notification, including your USPS Delivery Confirmation tracking number, is sent when we ship your order. Payment envelopes received after we sell out are refused and returned to sender. Basically, the early bird gets the worm. Thanks for your interest. Randy Reynolds galwaynygarlic@aol.com or galwaynygarlic@yahoo.com
bantista - 24 Mar 2006 04:02 GMT > Hi, we are accepting advance orders for snip
> Randy Reynolds > galwaynygarlic@aol.com or galwaynygarlic@yahoo.com Perhaps you are not familiar with the group charter.
The usenet charter for asd does not allow for commercial posts.
Violations of a group charter can result in bad things happening to the poster and at times to the group itself if abuse is allowed to continue in violation of the charter. Therefore it is important to point out to you that you are violating this goup, and if you continue to do so, no doubt, someone will file a complaint with your provider which will be corrective.
Our charter in case you cannot find it otherwise follows.
You are of course welcome to post messages of support for diabetes topics and to stay and learn more about his terrible disease. But please do not make this present mistake again.
regards rudy bantista@thuntek.net T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 134, i 1/2 hr from start red chile enchiladas and 2 tacitos with quacamole, cheese, lettuse, onion, tomato and 11.5% red wine (3 1/2 corn tortillas altogether). Subject: Charter and Info alt.support.diabetes
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Gary Woods - 24 Mar 2006 04:24 GMT >Perhaps you are not familiar with the group charter. > >The usenet charter for asd does not allow for commercial posts. Google says they are unfamiliar with rather basic ethics, since their first Usenet posting ever was to a number of cooking and health groups. Too bad, since they're semi local to me, though I grow my own garlic (NOT commercially, he added hastily).
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
bantista - 24 Mar 2006 07:46 GMT >>Perhaps you are not familiar with the group charter. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic > Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G Hello, Gary Woods,
Who are you, and what are you trying to say?
Please be on topic if possible, and by the way, I enjoy garlic every day. Also onions, peanut butter, berries, and olives, usually cheese and some times nuts. Try to eat some oily fish every week or more often if possible. And I do a bit of walking whenever I can.
So, who are you? And what are you trying to say to me?
regards, rudy bantista@thuntek.net T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 125.
Ma¢k - 24 Mar 2006 08:08 GMT >>>Perhaps you are not familiar with the group charter. >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >bantista@thuntek.net >T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 125. Gary simply said, that by doing a simple google search on the OP spammer you will find that the offender has no sense of ethical behavior since their spam is all they have posted on usenet.
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Alan S - 24 Mar 2006 09:23 GMT >>>Perhaps you are not familiar with the group charter. >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >bantista@thuntek.net >T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 125. Hi Rudy
Gary's been around a while longer than most here. The problem is that everything you said was absolutely correct - and will be totally ignored by the spammer, on the remote chance he/she ever reads it, because they couldn't care less.
I do it too occasionally. I post something like that because it made me feel better - but there's not a snowball's chance in hell that it will have any effect at all.
If you actually want to do something more, chat to mack on what to do to get the spammer's account suspended for ignoring the charter.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Gary Woods - 24 Mar 2006 13:47 GMT >Please be on topic if possible, and by the way, I enjoy garlic every day. >Also onions, peanut butter, berries, and olives, usually cheese and some >times nuts. I thought I was pretty clear on it, and Mack figured it out.... I was pointing out where the spammer seemed to lie on the malice---incompetence continuum.
More on-topic: T2, walker, loves to watch low-budget Troma movies on the Nordic Track, avid gardener and alliophile. I've been here a while, but I tend not to post unless I have something to say.
Semi-close-to-topic: Yes, Rapini is an excuse to consume mass quantities of garlic and a bit of garlic. The Caesars are reputed to have liked theirs like this:
Take a good bunch of Broccoli Raab and chop coarsely, leaves, stems, and all. Remove any big hunks of stem that may be too fibrous. Parboil in water for a few minutes and drain. (You can bag and freeze at this point; it freezes beautifully). Chop several cloves (bulbs?)* of garlic(1) and cook in a pan in a few tablespoons of olive oil until it "speaks." Add the Rapini and cook for a couple more minutes. Feed some to your partner as well.
*the engineering term is "metric shitload." (1) I like German white hardneck; strong flavor and only 4 big cloves to a bulb, easy to achieve the proper amount.
If you think this is all over the lot, consider that my friends consider me a walking digression. I'm getting some new friends.
Yours in bad breath,
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
bantista - 25 Mar 2006 03:48 GMT >>Please be on topic if possible, and by the way, I enjoy garlic every day. >>Also onions, peanut butter, berries, and olives, usually cheese and some [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic > Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G Hello, Gary Woods, Mack, and Alan S,
Just me being a bit thick; thanks for the heads up. I didn't bother to look the OP up, but just went on wasting everyones time. But thanks again, and sounds like a good meal to me. I've managed to sneak a recipe into a post here myself from time to time.
Mack and Alan S are champions of the people in my book, and they say you're the same; so ,I'm pleased to meet you Gary. Sorry I didn't remember reading you before. Like I said, I can be thick sometimes.
Best regards, rudy bantista@thuntek.net T2, last A1c 5.9, current bg 130 one hour from finish red chile carne adovada burrito with a glass of cabernet, but I didn't eat more than three bites of the flour tortilla. Tasty.
Ma¢k - 24 Mar 2006 05:42 GMT >Path: dukenews1.cox.net!duke.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >From: galwaynygarlic@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >business license and without any health department checks or inspections. >Please report us for our illegal activities and our spamming to: abuse@yahoo.com. groups-abuse@google.com, UCE@FTC.GOV , spam@ftc.gov and our ISP AOL. OrgName: America Online OrgID: AOL Address: 22000 AOL Way City: Dulles StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20166 Country: US
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W.M.McKee - 24 Mar 2006 11:41 GMT >>Path: dukenews1.cox.net!duke.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >>From: galwaynygarlic@aol.com >>Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes >>Subject: 2006 Garlic and Red Shallots Advance Orders >>Date: 23 Mar 2006 10:21:53 -0800 >>Organization: http://groups.google.com Thanks, Mack...
You know, your efforts in reporting spammers as you do really do help keep the spam down, for the most part. This group does not seem nearly so overrun as some....
Will, T2
galwaynygarlic@aol.com - 25 Mar 2006 17:21 GMT To all in this group. I didn't intend on creating any problem here. I don't appreciate getting spam in my email either. I really wasn't thinking that I was spamming, just making an offer to people who might be interested. Some have and obviously some aren't. If I could delete the message off this group I surely would. I'm just a small time operator trying to get my message out and will not use this medium again. Sorry, Randy
Ma¢k - 27 Mar 2006 23:43 GMT >>>Path: dukenews1.cox.net!duke.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >>>From: galwaynygarlic@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Will, T2 It's a collective effort. There many who are taking the info I and others track down regarding the spammers ISP and posting hosts and they do file complaints so that multiple complaints from multiple participants show up. That is what makes the ISP pay attention more than anything.
That and the fact that the complaints to the ISPs and posting hosts are being CCd to UCE@FTC.GOV and spam@ftc.gov etc.
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Priscilla H. Ballou - 24 Mar 2006 19:09 GMT > >Path: > >dukenews1.cox.net!duke.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news.max > >well.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > >From: galwaynygarlic@aol.com > >Newsgroups: alt.support.diabetes > >Subject: 2006 Garlic and Red Shallots Advance Orders [snipped the etc.]
Shoot. When I saw the subject line I thought this might be an early agriculture report about how creative LC cooking was boosting trade in those aromatic ingredients. Oh, well.
Priscilla
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