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geelarace@operamail.com - 23 Mar 2006 11:56 GMT
some great sites for dating oriental gals and guys and even gays

http://www.out-east.com
Ma¢k - 24 Mar 2006 05:56 GMT
>Path: dukenews1.cox.net!duke.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!news-out.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>From: geelarace@operamail.com
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
>http://www.out-east-we'll-rob-you-blind-and-leave-for-dead.com

inetnum:      210.86.192.0 - 210.86.223.255
netname:      ASIAINFO-TH
descr:        Asia Infonet Co.,Ltd.
descr:        1 Fortune Town 17th Floor, Ratchadapisek Road,
descr:        Dindang, Bangkok 10320, Thailand
descr:        Tel. +66-2-641-1800 Ext 4714 Fax. +66-2-642-1557
descr:        Internet Service Provider
country:      TH
admin-c:      WP1-AP
tech-c:       SK359-AP
status:       ALLOCATED PORTABLE
changed:      hm-changed@apnic.net 20030310
mnt-by:       APNIC-HM
mnt-lower:    MAINT-ASIANET-AP
source:       APNIC

person:       Wongchai Piyakavarnich
address:      17 th floor ,Fortune House
address:      1 Ratchadaphisek Road, Din Daeng
address:      Bangkok 10320
country:      TH
phone:        +662-6411800 ext 4794
fax-no:       +662-6411831
e-mail:       cmsv@asianet.co.th
nic-hdl:      WP1-AP
mnt-by:       MAINT-ASIAINFO-AP
changed:      cmsv@asianet.co.th 19980901
source:       APNIC

person:       Suchon Keeratpaiboonan
address:      1 Fortune Town 17 Fl. Ratchadapisak Rd.
address:      Dindaeng Bangkok 10320
country:      TH
phone:        +66-2641-1800 Ext.4714
fax-no:       +66-2642-1557
e-mail:       suchon@asianet.co.th
nic-hdl:      SK359-AP
mnt-by:       MAINT-ASIANET-AP
changed:      sirisak.t@asianet.co.th 20011127
source:       APNIC
Just - 24 Mar 2006 19:05 GMT
[snip WHOIS info]

What's the point of posting the WHOIS here?
Ma¢k - 28 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
>[snip WHOIS info]
>
>What's the point of posting the WHOIS here?

so that everyone interested in getting rid of spammers can email the
complaint to the ISP and posting hosts.  It's a group effort.  don't
participate and you have only yourself to blame for the continued
posting of such worthless spam.  A single complaint from as many
posters as possible goes a long way in getting rid of such worthless
netscum.

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Type 1 since 1975
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but is morally treasonable to the American public."
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Judanne - 28 Mar 2006 09:03 GMT
But for people like me (and maybe others) what you posted makes no sense as
there is just too much info.  Isn't the isp the "operamail.com" in the email
address?

Judanne

>>[snip WHOIS info]
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> posters as possible goes a long way in getting rid of such worthless
> netscum.
Ma¢k - 28 Mar 2006 19:30 GMT
>But for people like me (and maybe others) what you posted makes no sense as
>there is just too much info.  Isn't the isp the "operamail.com" in the email
>address?
>
>Judanne

sometimes the spammer includes info that is fake.  Tracing the IP
address provides more accurate info.  There have been many times when
someone posted and they ISP appeared to be something like
operamail.com for example by the ip address tracked back to the real
ISP which was something totally different.

Sometimes the spammers actually know how to hide or use a pay service
that hides their info for them.  However, even if the actual ISP can't
be found, if we can track down the contact info for the posting host
they will more often than not put a stop to the spamming if addressed
correctly.

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Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

        (o ô)  
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
             ....Bilbo Baggins

Jesus never hated anyone.

DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
.

           

>
>>>[snip WHOIS info]
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> posters as possible goes a long way in getting rid of such worthless
>> netscum.
J.C. Hartmann - 28 Mar 2006 09:08 GMT
> so that everyone interested in getting rid of spammers can email the
> complaint to the ISP and posting hosts.  It's a group effort.  don't
> participate and you have only yourself to blame for the continued
> posting of such worthless spam.  A single complaint from as many
> posters as possible goes a long way in getting rid of such worthless
> netscum.

I've wondered about this practice of yours, too. If people don't know
how to read a header, how can you expect them to be able to pull the
important information from the header you supply?

And if they don't know how to run a whois on an IP addy, how do you
expect them to understand where to send a complaint?

IMHO, your 3-5 kB posts are worse than the spam, and you don't even use
the 'x-no-archive: yes' option.

Better to provide information that the not-so-net-savvy can use, like:

Posted from IP:     70.160.124.140 (cox.net) abuse@cox.net
Posted via Google:    groups-abuse@google.com
Add'l. complaints:    uce@ftc.gov spam@ftc.gov

Or provide a clickable shortcut:
mailto:abuse@cox.net,groups-abuse@google.com,uce@ftc.gov,spam@ftc.gov?subject=Spam

Just my 2c,

Jim
W.M.McKee - 28 Mar 2006 13:56 GMT
>> so that everyone interested in getting rid of spammers can email the
>> complaint to the ISP and posting hosts.  It's a group effort.  don't
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Jim

One explanation, Jim, would be that of the large number of people out
there reading this group, some are more knowledgeable and capable in
this area than others. Mack is providing the information, in the hope
that some of the more savvy individuals will benefit.

For the rest, I submit, it may be rather like riding in a limousine in
which one's companions all speak another language.

Will, T2
Ma¢k - 28 Mar 2006 19:41 GMT
>> so that everyone interested in getting rid of spammers can email the
>> complaint to the ISP and posting hosts.  It's a group effort.  don't
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
>Jim

sometimes I forget to include the list of addresses the complaints
should be sent to.  however the complete headers need to be sent along
with the complaints.  without a set of complete headers no one will
investigate the complaints and take action.

because without the headers it boils down to he said this, you said
that and no-one showed any proof of anything.  And that requires the
ISP or posting host to do all of the foot work in tracking down the
original post and headers and NO ISP/posting host will do all the work
for us based on that type of complaint.  They simply do not have the
resources with the volume of complaints they receive daily.

I'll try to remember the mail to link suggestion which will work best
with the instructions to copy and paste the complete headers and post
into the body of the email complaint.  so they will still need to be
provided.

Signature

Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

        (o ô)  
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
             ....Bilbo Baggins

Jesus never hated anyone.

DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
.

           

Judanne - 29 Mar 2006 06:22 GMT
"...and you don't even use the 'x-no-archive: yes' option."

I've seen that at the start of posts and have wondered what that was all
about, too.  I just assumed it was a personal idiosyncrasy of the person
posting.

Judanne
J.C. Hartmann - 29 Mar 2006 07:12 GMT
> "...and you don't even use the 'x-no-archive: yes' option."
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Judanne

http://www.livinginternet.com/u/ua_prev.htm
Ma¢k - 30 Mar 2006 05:43 GMT
>"...and you don't even use the 'x-no-archive: yes' option."
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Judanne

Originally it told news archivers not to archive the post.  However
most simply ignore it all together.  Google seems to honor, but google
is one archiving leech web site out of many.

and it doesn't work when people make replies to the thread.

However it does not have to be the first line of a post, some news
readers can put it in the header.

Signature

Mâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper
Type 1 since 1975
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.insulin-pumpers.org

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the
President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

        (o ô)  
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."
             ....Bilbo Baggins

Jesus never hated anyone.

DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me
offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate...
.

           

Loretta Eisenberg - 28 Mar 2006 19:59 GMT
Since you are not being politically correct and saying Asians,
disappear.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Judanne - 29 Mar 2006 06:23 GMT
So, if it said "Asian", would you have had a look, Loretta? ;~)

Judanne

> Since you are not being politically correct and saying Asians,
> disappear.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
 
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