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Alexander Arnakis - 20 Mar 2006 05:29 GMT
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/ESPNSports/story?id=1742034&page=1

One thing that bothered me was this quote, toward the end of the
article:

"Diabetes is really right around the corner for a cure," Morrison
said.

I've been hearing things like this ever since I was first diagnosed,
more than 40 years ago. Despite what the media say, a cure is NOT just
around the corner. Instead of holding out false hope, the "diabetic
establishment" should focus on getting people to take better control
of their condition. In fact, this kind of false hope works against us,
because it encourages sloppiness in day-to-day management, and denial
of the severity of the condition.
Alice Faber - 20 Mar 2006 05:45 GMT
> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/ESPNSports/story?id=1742034&page=1
>
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> because it encourages sloppiness in day-to-day management, and denial
> of the severity of the condition.

How is a star athlete who's being portrayed as methodical in his
diabetes management part of the "diabetes establishment"?

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Alexander Arnakis - 20 Mar 2006 07:09 GMT
>How is a star athlete who's being portrayed as methodical in his
>diabetes management part of the "diabetes establishment"?

He's not, but the people that feed the press information about
"impending cures" are. The press generally swallows it because they
don't know any better. I don't blame the kid -- he's praiseworthy, but
he's parroting the "party line." Let's see what he has to say 20 years
from now.

Look, I used to believe in "impending cures" too. I simply got tired
of waiting for Godot. I finally realized that the tounted "cures" are
not a cure, but a way to build lucrative careers for the researchers.
In the meantime, the little unheralded steps, like home BG monitoring,
A1c tests, and analog insulins, have made a real difference in the
lives of diabetics.
Freckles - 20 Mar 2006 11:56 GMT
>>How is a star athlete who's being portrayed as methodical in his
>>diabetes management part of the "diabetes establishment"?
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> A1c tests, and analog insulins, have made a real difference in the
> lives of diabetics.

They sure have! And they have all come about due to RESEARCH!
No cure yet, but it sure looks like they are working on it.
Alexander Arnakis - 21 Mar 2006 01:11 GMT
>They sure have! And they have all come about due to RESEARCH!
>No cure yet, but it sure looks like they are working on it.

There are two kinds of research: the applied research that results in
incremental steps like analog insulins, home BG testing, and A1c
tests, and the "breakthrough" research that (potentially) results in
Nobel Prizes. It seems to me that the "breakthrough" type of research
gets the lion's share of foundation and government funding, while the
applied research is done by the pharmaceutical companies in the
ordinary course of business.

Which of these two types of research has a proven track record of
usable results? Over the course of the last 40 years (ever since I
have been a diabetic), it's been pretty obvious that the attempts at a
"breakthrough" have been boondoggles.

The closest thing to a "cure" that we're likely to see is a cumulation
of all the small steps to date, with some incremental improvements:
namely, a closed-loop monitoring and insulin administration system,
something like an insulin pump combined with continuous BG monitoring.
That's what the scientific money should be concentrated on, instead of
futile attempts at islet transplantation, etc.
Cheri - 20 Mar 2006 16:21 GMT
Very true.

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Cheri

Alexander Arnakis wrote in message ...
>Look, I used to believe in "impending cures" too. I simply got tired
>of waiting for Godot. I finally realized that the tounted "cures" are
>not a cure, but a way to build lucrative careers for the researchers.
>In the meantime, the little unheralded steps, like home BG monitoring,
>A1c tests, and analog insulins, have made a real difference in the
>lives of diabetics.
shoppa@trailing-edge.com - 20 Mar 2006 20:54 GMT
> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/ESPNSports/story?id=1742034&page=1
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> because it encourages sloppiness in day-to-day management, and denial
> of the severity of the condition.

For better or worse, when it comes to fundraising you do not get the
biggest gains saying that you want diabetics to to work harder in
controlling their bG's, talking about MDI and frequent testing etc..

You are more likely to get big money in fundraising if you say you're
looking for the "BIG CURE".

Tim.
Alexander Arnakis - 21 Mar 2006 01:21 GMT
>For better or worse, when it comes to fundraising you do not get the
>biggest gains saying that you want diabetics to to work harder in
>controlling their bG's, talking about MDI and frequent testing etc..
>
>You are more likely to get big money in fundraising if you say you're
>looking for the "BIG CURE".

That's exactly right, which is why I fault the "diabetes
establishment" fundraisers. They're in a position to know better, but
they're locked in a vicious circular dance with the (mostly ignorant)
mass media and the gullible contributors.

Much has been said in this newsgroup about the allegedly corrupt
profit motives of the pharmaceutical companies. (I'm no fan of them
either.) But if the truth be told, it's these private companies that
have come up with most of the innovations that are usable in the real
world to make the lives of diabetics better.
 
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