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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Potatoes and T2 Diabetes - Study
Hello friends, Here is a link to an article discussing a recent study linking potato consumption to a moderate increased risk of T2 diabetes. If this has already been posted, I apologize, but I have not seen it, if it has been posted already. So, here goes.... http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3543 "Our findings suggest a modest positive association between the consumption of potatoes and the risk of type 2 diabetes in women," the authors write. "This association was more pronounced when potatoes were substituted for whole grains." "These data support a potential benefit from limiting the consumption of these foods in reducing the risk of type 2 diabetes," the authors conclude. "Substitution of these sources of carbohydrate with lower glycemic, high-fiber forms of carbohydrates such as whole grains should be encouraged." Am J Clin Nutr. 2006;83:284-290 Have a good Sunday, everyone. And for you folks in NZ and OZ, have a good Monday! :-) Will, T2 :: Hello friends, :: :: Here is a link to an article discussing a recent study linking potato :: consumption to a moderate increased risk of T2 diabetes. If this has :: already been posted, I apologize, but I have not seen it, if it has :: been posted already. So, here goes.... http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3543 :: "Our findings suggest a modest positive association between the :: consumption of potatoes and the risk of type 2 diabetes in women," [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :: Have a good Sunday, everyone. And for you folks in NZ and OZ, have a :: good Monday! :-) They should also compare against low carb veggies such as broccoli, cauliflower, and spinach instead of just "whole grains", the new buzz phrase in healthy eating. >:: been posted already. So, here goes.... >:: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >cauliflower, and spinach instead of just "whole grains", the new buzz phrase >in healthy eating. Hi Roger, I think you are probably right... I am not all that sold on whole grains, myself, because they are somewhat carby, as you know.... I just cannot do much in the way of whole grains, without drastically affecting my BG. Having said that, some whole grain breads seem better than others, when consumed in moderation. For instance, I do fine with small amounts of pumpernickel or dark rye, as long as I do not have too much at a time. Also, I am really fond of toast made with sprouted whole grain breads. One piece of Ezekiel bread toast with a little butter makes a great breakfast, especiallly with a few blueberries and some cottage cheese. If you are not familiar with Ezekiel bread, it is reasonably available in most places, and it is made by a company called Food for Life. For more iniformation, they do maintain a website that you can look up on google or yahoo... Usually, it is sold frozen in health food stores or in the organic food section of places like Farm Fresh, Harris Teeter, etc. The reason it is sold frozen is because it is completely natural and has no preservatives. This is about the only bread that I normally eat, and it is the bread which Quentin called 'Essene', a few days ago. I do not know if it has a worldwide distribution, but I am sure there are similar products sold everywhere. Costco frequetly also has sprouted whole grain products, although I have never seen Ezekiel bread sold there. No one has a monopoly on healthy living.... The virtue of sprouted whole grains over ordinary whole grain breads is that they seem to have more fiber content, greater protein content, and lower levels of carbs generally... Of course, Susan, Jennifer, Quentin, Alan, and Jenny probably have greater knowledge in this area than I do. Also, most of the sprouted whole grain products have absolutely NO SOY, which is a good thing, since many people cannot eat soy products. Wishing you all the best, Will, T2 :: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:22:09 -0500, "Roger Zoul" :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: :: ::::: been posted already. So, here goes.... http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3543 ::::: "Our findings suggest a modest positive association between the ::::: consumption of potatoes and the risk of type 2 diabetes in women," [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] :: products have absolutely NO SOY, which is a good thing, since many :: people cannot eat soy products. Thanks for the info, Will. I've not tried Ezekial Bread, but I am familiar with Food for Life. I've bought their products before, from my local health food store. I might zip over there now in search of some....so I can see how it affects my BG. > :: If you are not familiar with Ezekiel bread, it is reasonably > :: available in most places, and it is made by a company called Food for [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > food store. I might zip over there now in search of some....so I can see > how it affects my BG. I found the Food for Life too chewy or soyish or something. Ezekial was too high carb, so I never bought it. Very dense stuff, though. Susan >I found the Food for Life too chewy or soyish or something. Ezekial was >too high carb, so I never bought it. Very dense stuff, though. > >Susan Hi Susan, That is what I thought at first, also. Then, I tried it as toast, warmed in the oven, with a little butter melted on it.... Then the dense chewy bread became truly good.... And a 48 GI is nothing to dismiss... I usually have just one piece in the morning for breakfast, unless I splurge and have blueberries and cottage cheese with it. Just one piece holds me until lunch, when I have my veggiemax wrap, with a veggie patty, lettuce, tomato, olives, pickles, red onion, banana pepper, and jalapeno pepper, yellow mustard, and oil and vinegar.... One slice of Ezekiel Bread has 80 total calories, only 5 of which are from fat., and a net of 12 carbs per slice, with 4 gms of protein. I meant it when I said I have fewer than 120 total carbs per day, and no more than 1200-1500 total calories in a given day.. Will, T2 > That is what I thought at first, also. Then, I tried it as toast, > warmed in the oven, with a little butter melted on it.... Then the > dense chewy bread became truly good.... And a 48 GI is nothing to > dismiss... That's as low as whole kernel rye; the lowest GI grain. I usually have just one piece in the morning for breakfast, > unless I splurge and have blueberries and cottage cheese with it. Just > one piece holds me until lunch, when I have my veggiemax wrap, with a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I meant it when I said I have fewer than 120 total carbs per day, and > no more than 1200-1500 total calories in a given day.. Maybe I'll try it at some point, but my calories are no more than about 1200 per day, and my carbs are half yours... Susan >:: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:22:09 -0500, "Roger Zoul" >:: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: Hello again, Roger I just checked the wrapper of Ezekiel Bread.. It has a glycemic index rating of 48, which for a bread is pretty good. The ingredients listed are organically sprouted wheat, sprouted barley, sprouted millet, malted barley. sprouted lentils, sprouted soybeans, sprouted spelt, filtered water, fresh yeast, and sea salt... More info is to be found about all their products at http://www.food-for-life.com/index.asp Sorry about the soy... I did not realize it had soy in it in my last post, so it might not be for everyone. Will, T2 :: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:16:08 -0500, "Roger Zoul" :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :: Sorry about the soy... I did not realize it had soy in it in my last :: post, so it might not be for everyone. I have to admit that I'm not the biggest fan of soy....I once bought some soy flour to make biscotti with....I'll never use that stuff again... Another bakey similar to Ezekiel in that it basically uses only sprouted grains, is Alvarado Street. Has anyone tried the new Alvarado Street Bakery Diabetic Lifestyles Low Glycemic Bread yet? (I haven't but I am wondering how it is...) http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C ode=10296&Category_Code=bread Ingredients are Sprouted Organic Whole Wheat Berries, Filtered Water, Wheat Gluten, Organic Dates, Organic Raisins, Sea Salt, Fresh Yeast, Soy based lecithin, Cultured Wheat., and the GI is 5, with a GL of 0.9 per serving. 13 grams of net carbs in a 34 gram slice. Morris > :: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:16:08 -0500, "Roger Zoul" > :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I have to admit that I'm not the biggest fan of soy....I once bought some > soy flour to make biscotti with....I'll never use that stuff again... >Another bakey similar to Ezekiel in that it basically uses only >sprouted grains, is Alvarado Street. Has anyone tried the new Alvarado [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Morris Thanks Morris, I have never seen or heard of this bread. It looks pretty good... I'll give it a try. Will, T2 :: Another bakey similar to Ezekiel in that it basically uses only :: sprouted grains, is Alvarado Street. Has anyone tried the new :: Alvarado Street Bakery Diabetic Lifestyles Low Glycemic Bread yet? :: (I haven't but I am wondering how it is...) http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C ode=10296&Category_Code=bread :: Ingredients are Sprouted Organic Whole Wheat Berries, Filtered :: Water, Wheat Gluten, Organic Dates, Organic Raisins, Sea Salt, Fresh :: Yeast, Soy based lecithin, Cultured Wheat., and the GI is 5, with a :: GL of 0.9 per serving. :: :: 13 grams of net carbs in a 34 gram slice. Net carbs? That's a lot for one slice. IMO. :: Another bakey similar to Ezekiel in that it basically uses only :: sprouted grains, is Alvarado Street. Has anyone tried the new :: Alvarado Street Bakery Diabetic Lifestyles Low Glycemic Bread yet? :: (I haven't but I am wondering how it is...) http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C ode=10296&Category_Code=bread :: Ingredients are Sprouted Organic Whole Wheat Berries, Filtered :: Water, Wheat Gluten, Organic Dates, Organic Raisins, Sea Salt, Fresh [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :: :: Morris this bread is not expensive...but given that it has only 2 grams of fiber per slice and 13 net grams of carbs, why exactly is this supposed to have little affect on BG for a diabetic? Small amounts? With stuff like dates and raisins and so little fiber and not fat, this *seems* like a questionable choice to me. I'll probaby try it just to be sure, though. Frankly, one slice of bread hardly seems worth the bother and 3 slices (one per meal) seems like a lot of carbs just from bread. :: Roger Zoul wrote: ::: W.M.McKee wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] ::: bought some soy flour to make biscotti with....I'll never use that ::: stuff again... HI roger, I had the same thought when I saw it, dates and raisins???, but then noticed that they are the only sweetener in the bread, and are listed between the wheat gluten and the salt. So I suspect the amount is quite low. Morris > :: Another bakey similar to Ezekiel in that it basically uses only > :: sprouted grains, is Alvarado Street. Has anyone tried the new [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > ::: bought some soy flour to make biscotti with....I'll never use that > ::: stuff again... Yeah, maybe it's there for taste...however, at 13 g per slice, it seems more like a dessert than part of a meal (for me). :: HI roger, :: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] ::::: Alvarado Street Bakery Diabetic Lifestyles Low Glycemic Bread yet? ::::: (I haven't but I am wondering how it is...) http://www.alvaradostreetbakery.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C ode=10296&Category_Code=bread ::::: Ingredients are Sprouted Organic Whole Wheat Berries, Filtered ::::: Water, Wheat Gluten, Organic Dates, Organic Raisins, Sea Salt, [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] :::::: bought some soy flour to make biscotti with....I'll never use :::::: that stuff again... > Hello friends, > Have a good Sunday, everyone. And for you folks in NZ and OZ, have a > good Monday! :-) We have a cat 5 Cyclone in Nth Qld, hope everything is ok. >> Hello friends, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >We have a cat 5 Cyclone in Nth Qld, hope everything is ok. Yipes, that sounds serious, Jan... I do hope you are not anywhere near the storm.... Will, T2 >>> Hello friends, >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yipes, that sounds serious, Jan... I do hope you are not anywhere near > the storm.... No, but a few relatives and friends will get the rain from it. Cyclone Larry if you are at all interested :) >>>> Hello friends, >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >No, but a few relatives and friends will get the rain from >it. Cyclone Larry if you are at all interested :) More info here. http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65002.shtml and here http://independentwx.com/ 230km/hr = 145mph. A long way north of Jan and I, but I'm likely to get a lot of rain from it. To put that in context, think Cyclone Larry = Katrina/New Orleans, Ozgirl is relatively in Baltimore and I'm in Savannah, Ga. One scary aspect is that the tourists in Cairns last night on the news wouldn't believe the warnings - the weather was still beautiful then. No damage reports available yet. Waiting for the midday news. Looking at that second link - looks like another bigger one forming out over Kiribati. I hope they're alright out there in the Pacific too. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg  SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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