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Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 03:17 GMT I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing themselves or injecting insulin. (minus one woman as my last workplace).
Asides from yourselves, how often do you see others testing themselves or injecting? I would say for testing not often as it seems the majority of diabetes do not test.
Or like me, do not test in publics "eye".
I did test at my desk at my last workplace, and I did get looks, but felt I had the right to test there. But I do prefer to test in the privacy of the stall and just keep it to myself.
Trinity
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W.M.McKee - 19 Mar 2006 03:44 GMT >I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Trinity Trinity, I am with you 100%....
I am very sorry to say, though, that as I am the boss, what I would have to contribute would not mean much. If anyone looks askance at my testing, they are "toast". On the other hand, I gladly allow anyone else in the office the opportunity of testing and several break times during the day to do it....
Any and all should have the opportunity to test any time they jolly well feel like it! So says Will McKee!
As you might have expected, there have been no takers....
Will, T2
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:01 GMT >>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >>workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Will, T2 I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on the hole. Trinity
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W.M.McKee - 19 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT >I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on >the hole. >Trinity God, Trin... What are you using for a lancet? A nail?
Mine usually stops right away, and if I do not squeeze the blood out quickly, I have a dry hole and have to prick again....
I just cannot imagine... Hope you are OK.
Will, T2
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT >>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 I'm using a 3 on the dial. Hmm, maybe I should try to turn it down a bit, but I guess because I got started on accucheck advantance and needed a gallon just to please the meter, and now I have a freestyle mini, I haven't thought to turn it down. Or i just like to take a while to clot???? Trinity
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David - 20 Mar 2006 02:48 GMT >>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 After I pick my finger and apply the sample, I rub that finger against my thumb a couple of times and that usually prevents any messy drips.
Dave
Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:53 GMT >>> I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>> being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Dave I've just adjusted the pen to 2. 1.5 did nothing. So we'll try that and see. I do try to hold my finger with my next finger for a few seconds, but sometimes it just wants to come out later..... thanks Dave! trinity
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W.M.McKee - 20 Mar 2006 03:06 GMT >>>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Dave Well, Dave, old friend... that is not exactly my methodology, but I do get your drift. That would be about it for me, too.... No fuss, no mess.. just a drop is all it takes.
How are you and Mary tonight? I do think of you quite often.
Will, T2
David - 20 Mar 2006 03:09 GMT >>>>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>>>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Will, T2 Well, I'm now on the mend slightly from a horrific cold that has had me planted in front of my PC since Monday, instead of me doing my regular routines. Mary didn't catch much of the bug so she's pretty fair right now. How are you all, Will?
Dave
W.M.McKee - 20 Mar 2006 04:08 GMT >>>>>I prefer to p I am making it, Dave... what can I say?
The domestic front leaves a little bit to be desired, but that's life, as they say.... I am hangin in... Right now, my biggest problem in that way is the war memories, if you know what I mean... Most people just do not get it.... Dumbasses seem to rule these days.
Will, T2
David - 20 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT > The domestic front leaves a little bit to be desired, but that's life, > as they say.... I am hangin in... Right now, my biggest problem in > that way is the war memories, if you know what I mean... Most people > just do not get it.... Dumbasses seem to rule these days. > > Will, T2 Sorry there's trouble on the home front; been there; that's a MAJOR stressor (sp?).
That's The Peter Principle at work, Will. <g>
Dave
Grandpa Chuck - 20 Mar 2006 18:22 GMT >>>>>>I prefer to p > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 Over the weekend while channel surfing I heard a talking head say, "The purpose of every war is to destroy property and kill people." No matter how justified a war is spun to the public that is what it is really about.
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Roger Zoul - 20 Mar 2006 19:00 GMT :: Over the weekend while channel surfing I heard a talking head say, :: "The purpose of every war is to destroy property and kill people." No :: matter how justified a war is spun to the public that is what it is :: really about. That's why guns, missiles, and bombs are used in wars these days. Better for destroying property and killing people.
Elizabeth Blake - 20 Mar 2006 00:14 GMT > I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and > being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on the > hole. > Trinity I use Band-Aids. I have no patience for holding a bit of paper towel to my finger to get it to stop bleeding, so I slap on a bandage and I'm ready to get right back to whatever I'm doing.
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Cheri - 20 Mar 2006 01:00 GMT I have my lancet set on 2, and fortunately I just have to apply pressure with my thumb for a few seconds to stop the bleeding. Very rarely will it bleed longer than that.
-- Cheri
Elizabeth Blake wrote in message ...
>I use Band-Aids. I have no patience for holding a bit of paper towel to my >finger to get it to stop bleeding, so I slap on a bandage and I'm ready to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Type 1 dx 4/1987 >Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 W.M.McKee - 20 Mar 2006 01:23 GMT >I have my lancet set on 2, and fortunately I just have to apply pressure >with my thumb for a few seconds to stop the bleeding. Very rarely will >it bleed longer than that. Hi Cheri and Trinity,
I have mine set on 4 ... As Loretta says, I guess everyone is different. Even at 4, I don't always get enough blood, but usually I do. At 3 there is just not enough. At 4, it rarely bleeds spontaneously... I have to apply pressure and squeeze the blood out.
Then again, I have been accused of being rather cold blooded... or what's worse, bloodless....
Will, T2
Cheri - 20 Mar 2006 01:43 GMT Wow, I can't imagine 4 on a regular basis, sometimes the number gets moved accidently and I have lanced that high, but I know it, and I sure don't like it. I can't imagine anybody thinking you're cold blooded though. :-)
-- Cheri
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>Hi Cheri and Trinity, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Will, T2 Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT >>I have my lancet set on 2, and fortunately I just have to apply pressure >>with my thumb for a few seconds to stop the bleeding. Very rarely will [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will, T2 I also have trouble sometimes getting the darn blood out, but again I'll try a lower setting and see if it improves the delayed leak! Trinity
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Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:18 GMT > I have my lancet set on 2, and fortunately I just have to apply pressure > with my thumb for a few seconds to stop the bleeding. Very rarely will [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>Type 1 dx 4/1987 >>Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 Unfortunately at the time it seems like it's stopped bleeding only to start up again up to 30 minutes later. It's kind of annoying really. So I will set my pen lower & see if that helps. Cheers, trinity
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Jenny - 20 Mar 2006 14:42 GMT > Unfortunately at the time it seems like it's stopped bleeding only to > start up again up to 30 minutes later. It's kind of annoying really. So > I will set my pen lower & see if that helps. That sounds very much as if you should have your platelets checked out, or possibly drop your aspirin dosage if you are taking aspirin! It suggests that your clotting is not normal and that might make you at a higher risk for stroke.
Do you also bruise easily? If so do discuss it with a doctor. The advice to take aspirin is intended for people who clot easily, but if you aren't clotting at all, then blood clots in the heart are not going to be a problem, while internal bleeds might be.
--Jenny
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Trinity - 21 Mar 2006 00:56 GMT >> Unfortunately at the time it seems like it's stopped bleeding only to >> start up again up to 30 minutes later. It's kind of annoying really. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control I'll try and drop the aspirin first. My platelets are normal. It's when tying shoes or other activities that start it again, if there's no pressure on it then it's usually good. Thanks, trinity
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TigerLily - 20 Mar 2006 02:10 GMT i wrap the finger with a piece of kleenex and get on with life........ toilet paper works too
when the kleenex has done it's job, it goes into a pocket in my pants or such......... even a garbage bag if one is handy
kate
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> > I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and > > being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > finger to get it to stop bleeding, so I slap on a bandage and I'm ready to > get right back to whatever I'm doing. David - 20 Mar 2006 02:51 GMT Elizabeth Blake wrote:
>>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > :) I could just see me, Les Nesman style, with 15 band aids per day, on my fingers! <g>
Dave
Elizabeth Blake - 20 Mar 2006 03:20 GMT > Elizabeth Blake wrote: >> I use Band-Aids. I have no patience for holding a bit of paper towel to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Dave I don't leave them on all day! Sometimes 5 minutes later I'm already pulling it off. I buy store brand, the cheapest I can find. If I get the 1" wide strips I cut them in half. I test 10-12 times a day so I end up using a lot of them. We used to have some really good tri-fold paper towels at work before they switched to some crappy rolls. I'd cut the paper towels into strips, wrap it around my finger and use a piece of tape to keep it on. Much cheaper than bandages. I know I can do that with any paper towel or napkin, but those were really perfect.
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David - 20 Mar 2006 03:25 GMT Elizabeth Blake wrote:
>>Elizabeth Blake wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Much cheaper than bandages. I know I can do that with any paper towel or > napkin, but those were really perfect. Do you take Aspirin, or a blood thinner?
Do you remember WKRP in Cincinatti?
Dave
Elizabeth Blake - 20 Mar 2006 06:13 GMT > Elizabeth Blake wrote: >> I don't leave them on all day! Sometimes 5 minutes later I'm already [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dave I do take a baby aspirin every day, but my fingers oozed long before I started that. It's not like they even ooze for that long, but if I'm in the middle of looking through a pile of papers at work I don't want to stop for a couple of minutes to hold a bit of napkin to my finger.
I never watched WKRP.
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David - 20 Mar 2006 17:00 GMT Elizabeth Blake wrote:
>>Elizabeth Blake wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I never watched WKRP. The reason I asked about WKRP was because of my earlier mention of Les Nessman. He was a character on the show that had a wore a bandaid on every episode of the show that ran for a few years.
Dave
Trinity - 21 Mar 2006 00:53 GMT Elizabeth Blake wrote:
>>Elizabeth Blake wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I never watched WKRP. I take baby aspirin 3x a week. I am trying setting 2 now, so we'll see what happens. Cheers, Trinity
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Alan S - 20 Mar 2006 01:23 GMT >I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on >the hole. >Trinity Hi Trinity.
Have you tried a lower depth setting on that meter?
I'm a little different; no, a lot different. So my comments may not be relevant to you.
When you have hypogammaglobulinemia - immune deficiency - you become a bit more aware of hygiene. When I have no choice but must use public toilets for the needs of nature, I automatically do things that I notice others don't.
I try not touch any surface in there directly with my fingers - for two reasons: they are most likely to touch my food at some stage, and they are full of self-inflicted partially-healed tiny test holes giving access to my blood. "Any surface" includes tap-handles, flush knobs, whatever. Think of me as acting like Adrian Monk in those places. Yes, I wash my hands but I use a paper towel as an isolator or preferably elbows to do most things like that.
The two most dangerous places I know of for infection are a medical waiting room and a public convenience. I spend as little time as possible in either place and touch as little as I can while doing so. And I never, ever, punch holes in myself while there. YMMV - and probably does:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:23 GMT >>I prefer to poke in private as I tend to keep bleeding for awhile and >>being in the washroom I can rinse my hands and apply more pressure on [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg I know the washroom is NOT the most hygenic, but again, if it is truly a filthy washroom I won't test there. My office washroom I will. I do see your point though and hey, maybe I'll change the venue at some point. Trinity
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Kurt - 19 Mar 2006 04:01 GMT > I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my > workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > felt I had the right to test there. But I do prefer to test in the > privacy of the stall and just keep it to myself. We've had this discussion in here - in one form or another - several times before if my memory serves me. But I think one that is worth having again, especially since you bring a fresh approach to it.
Speaking for myself, I try to be as discreet as possible, realizing that most people would be put off to see me testing or injecting. As I hope they are respectful of my turn-offs, I try to be to theirs. Of course I have every right, and need, to test and inject so I'm going to have to do it one way or another. Testing involves blood, not a lot, but nowadays people get nervous and their imaginations run wild. Also, some people are real queasy when it comes to seeing a syringe or someone sticking a finger. So what I do is either go into a restroom stall (but not the kinds of public restrooms that are disgustingly dirty) or do it quickly and as out of sight as possible. I've gotten pretty good at even a restaraunt dinner table of injecting without anyone, and I mean anyone, seeing what I have done. I'm not ashamed of what I need to do, but mindful of others not wanting to see it. I also do a lot of testing in my car, to me that is a safe haven and if I'm going to a restaurant I usually will test right before going inside.
My motto - test safe, test often, and try to test discreetly. Unless you're all alone and home then do the "pray to the God of normal blood sugar dance" every time you test.:)
Just my 2 test strips...
Best, Kurt
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:05 GMT >>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >>workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Best, > Kurt I also test in my car. Maybe if I personally saw more people testing, then maybe I'd test more in public, but at this point I just don't want to bring any more attention to myself.
I also have to be careful after poking as I tend to leak blood from the hole for a while, so any direct pressure to that finger and I find a bubble of blood again.
Happened at work once, luckily I was re-routing some cables of the computer and quickly said oh, I must have cut myself on something.
Even just tying my shoes afterwards envokes blood. It's gushers after the fact! Trinity
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James E. - 20 Mar 2006 19:42 GMT Bravo
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>> I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >> workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Best, > Kurt Loretta Eisenberg - 19 Mar 2006 04:13 GMT Trinity, I have been a diagnosed diabetic since 1999. Truthfully, except for friends of mine that are diabetic, I have never seen anyone besides myself test in public. I have gone to the ladies rooms in movies and such, and never saw anyone ever test.
I imagine that the ordinary citizen must think I am nuts and have no idea as to what I am doing.
an interesting observation.
Loretta
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Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:07 GMT > Trinity, I have been a diagnosed diabetic since 1999. Truthfully, > except for friends of mine that are diabetic, I have never seen anyone [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > terrorism. > It is kind of odd, that with so many people diabetic these days, that obviously people are not doing the types of testing that we do in this newsgroup and as I mentioned once before, I have never met anyone in person who has as tight control as this ng. So again I wonder from time to time if you are all real...LOL Trinity
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Alan S - 20 Mar 2006 01:24 GMT >obviously people are not doing the types of testing that we do in this >newsgroup and as I mentioned once before, I have never met anyone in >person who has as tight control as this ng. So again I wonder from time >to time if you are all real...LOL >Trinity I'm actually a figment of my own imagination... Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT >>obviously people are not doing the types of testing that we do in this >>newsgroup and as I mentioned once before, I have never met anyone in [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg LOL!
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David - 19 Mar 2006 05:10 GMT > I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my > workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Trinity Hey, whatever floats your boat. I'll test anywhere, anytime. Been doing that for so many years I've lost count. Never been a problem. No one has fainted. No one probably has ever even NOTICED what I'm doing.
dave
Alan S - 19 Mar 2006 09:19 GMT >> I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >> workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >dave Hi Dave
I totally agree. It's alright Dave, you can get up now. Sorry about the shock:-)
I test when I need to. I don't make a production of it, but I don't hide it either. I'm not on insulin, but if and when I do use it I'd be much the same. That doesn't mean I'd deliberately offend anyone - there are certain moments when doing anything at all is inappropriate - but I would certainly place my health above someone else's misplaced sensitivities. I would believe it polite to use some discretion in public, but not to the point where it is detrimental to my health.
In four years of testing, at an average of over five times daily, including travel in many countries, I have NEVER tested in a lavatory or bathroom - public or private.
I choose hygienic conditions when I'm punching holes in my skin.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:15 GMT >>>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >>>workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg Well for me, changing a menstral pad is more of a mess than poking my finger and I have no problem contaminating my finger as I wrap it up with toilet paper to stop the bleeding. Trinity
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Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:09 GMT >> I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >> workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > dave Does your meter have the beeps that go off with testing? Mine does, I'm sure I could turn off the beeps, but it does make one wonder what I'm doing sometimes. Trinity
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Elizabeth Blake - 19 Mar 2006 06:14 GMT >I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. >And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Trinity I also used to test/inject in a bathroom. Eventually I stopped caring if anyone saw or knew that I was diabetic. Now I test anywhere I have to. I'm using a pump since last May, so I don't have to worry about injections anymore. The place I test most often when not at home/work is on the bus going to/from work. If anyone notices what I'm doing, they haven't said anything. I also used to inject (with a pen) on the bus a lot before I got the pump. I'm not a morning person and sometimes I grab something easy for breakfast and eat it on the bus.
In a restaurant I do try to hide what I'm doing as much as possible. Not because I'm embarrassed or feel like I'm doing something "bad", but because I know that other people don't want to see my blood, especially when they sit down for a meal. I feel queasy at the littlest things and if I saw someone else testing his blood sugar at a restaurant my stomach wouldn't be very happy. So, I just put my meter on my lap and lean over it rather than slapping it on the table that will be covered in food.
I've only seen one other person inject in public, while waiting on line to get into a concert. Seeing someone inject doesn't bother me. One time someone noticed me was in the food court at a mall. An elderly couple saw me fiddling with my pen and got excited, but not in a "How dare you do that here!" sort of way. More of a "Hey look, she's diabetic and has a pen!" kind of way.
I have my own little office at work and everyone knows I'm diabetic, so no problems there.
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Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:13 GMT Elizabeth Blake wrote:
>>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. >>And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > I have my own little office at work and everyone knows I'm diabetic, so no > problems there. At a restaurant, I also wouldn't want people there to see the blood and in the washroom, I have clean hands and can go back and eat! Trinity
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Louise - 19 Mar 2006 10:25 GMT >I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. >And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Trinity Dear Trinity
I test when I want to and need to. Often I do it in puplic, i.e. in the bus, walking down the street, at my desk etc. I also inject in puplic, though I often do turn araound, i.e. at my desk.
I do not see anyone else test, at least I have not noticed, but the meters and pens are so descreet today, so it is easy to hide it.
Louise T1 since 1994, age 26. Denmark
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:17 GMT >>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. >>And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Louise > T1 since 1994, age 26. Denmark Unless I meet other diabetic folks at my workplace, I will keep the testing in private. It's enough of a show to have my finicky eating habits with an egg allergy and low carb requests. I even prefer to eat alone. Just me I guess. Trinity
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W.M.McKee - 19 Mar 2006 13:02 GMT >I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Trinity Now that I think about it, it is not exactly like nursing an infant in public.... Lots of people do that. It is not a big deal.
Will, T2
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:19 GMT >>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my >>workplace. And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Will, T2 I do however take my pills at the table. But that is more comfortable for me and of course easier as the beverage is at the table. Now I would NOT take my pills in the washroom! Trinity
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Chakolate - 19 Mar 2006 23:27 GMT > Now that I think about it, it is not exactly like nursing an infant in > public.... Lots of people do that. It is not a big deal. Some people do get faint at the sight of blood, though, and others get faint at the very idea of a needle, so isn't it best to be as discreet as possible?
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Alexander Arnakis - 19 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT It seems to me that a restroom stall is not the most hygienic place for testing or injecting.
On the other hand, doing it openly in public would tend to freak people out (injecting more than testing, because of the association with illegal drugs).
The best choice is just to be discreet. A car is a good place for this, or you can just wait until people aren't looking.
Trinity - 19 Mar 2006 23:38 GMT > It seems to me that a restroom stall is not the most hygienic place > for testing or injecting. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The best choice is just to be discreet. A car is a good place for > this, or you can just wait until people aren't looking. Maybe for a guy, but aside from closing the stall door, I haven't touched anything in the stall. My meter is either on the toilet roll thingy or in my lap. I put my used strips on the side pocket of the pouch. I have on occassion put the used strip in the pad bin. Wrap my finger with toilet paper afterwards and then wash my hands. Now, most office washrooms are fairly clean as some public places, but if they were really gross, I would NOT test in the washroom, I would do it in the car or somewhere else. So yeah, not all washrooms are alike! For sure, Trinity
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Jenny - 20 Mar 2006 00:15 GMT > Maybe for a guy, but aside from closing the stall door, I haven't > touched anything in the stall. My meter is either on the toilet roll > thingy or in my lap. I put my used strips on the side pocket of the > pouch. You sound a lot more deft than I am. If I tested in the stall, there'd be a good chance the meter would end up in the toilet. I'm incredibly uncoordinated. <sigh>
I've started keeping my meter in my purse and yesterday at a restaurant when I was afraid I might be lower than I liked and the food was taking longer than I'd thought. I just put the case in my lap and did the test there in the booth. My meter doesn't squeak and no one paid the slightest attention. My sugar was fine, so I could relax and enjoy the experience.
This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot worth a damn would be carried out by ladies in their 50s and 60s since we can go anywhere and do just about anything while passing unnoticed.
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Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 00:23 GMT >> Maybe for a guy, but aside from closing the stall door, I haven't >> touched anything in the stall. My meter is either on the toilet roll [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control Well, there 2 things to try: lower the jab depth & turn off the beeps! So hopefully less blood & maybe more comfortable to test out of the stall! Trinity :)
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Cheri - 20 Mar 2006 00:58 GMT Boy, ain't that the truth! I was saying that the other day in fact. I left home without lipstick, which I usually never do, and told my friend when I got back that nobody noticed but me, that's for sure. :-)
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>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot >worth a damn would be carried out by ladies in their 50s and 60s since >we can go anywhere and do just about anything while passing unnoticed. bj - 20 Mar 2006 01:07 GMT > This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase where > we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot worth a > damn would be carried out by ladies in their 50s and 60s since we can go > anywhere and do just about anything while passing unnoticed. heh heh. good one. bj (another old lady)
Ricavito - 20 Mar 2006 02:06 GMT > This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase > where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot > worth a damn would be carried out by ladies in their 50s and 60s since > we can go anywhere and do just about anything while passing unnoticed. Heh, now that's funny...and oh so true. I really must say I enjoy being a over-50 female because of the ability to pass virtually unnoticed, unless I want to be noticed.
Trinity - 20 Mar 2006 02:26 GMT >>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > being a over-50 female because of the ability to pass virtually > unnoticed, unless I want to be noticed. Hmm, I may not have that occur until I'm in my 60's! I'm 40 now & my co-worker thought I was 27! I guess even with my greying hair I still can pass for a 20 something! Trinity
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W.M.McKee - 20 Mar 2006 03:06 GMT >>>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >>>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >can pass for a 20 something! >Trinity Hey Trin... when you're hot, you're HOT!
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Trinity - 21 Mar 2006 00:49 GMT >>>>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >>>>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Will, T2 Aw shucks! Trinity
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Larry - 20 Mar 2006 07:54 GMT Trinity: Maybe it has already been mentioned. Aspirin will certainly make you bleed more. I note that you are taking aspirin.
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> >>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase > >>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > 40 lbs lost > next goal: gain muscle strength Hi_Therre - 20 Mar 2006 12:22 GMT >>>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >>>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >can pass for a 20 something! >Trinity 40 means you are a dang kid.
Trinity - 21 Mar 2006 00:54 GMT >>>>This is one of the benefits of being a middle aged lady in the phase >>>>where we've become invisible. I've often thought that any terrorist plot [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > 40 means you are a dang kid. Thanks! :) Trinity
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James E. - 20 Mar 2006 19:40 GMT I think it would be unappetizing and inconsiderate to do a blood test openly while in public or while eating dinner at a restaurant. It is always easy to visit the bathroom for a few seconds. I would not go out to dinner again with somebody who would be so inconsiderate. There is always the connection (stigma) some people make to contact with blood and AIDS.
As regards the blood: I just remove any small blood residue with one touch of my tongue. The enzymes in the saliva act as disinfectant and stop any bleeding immediately. Nothing else is needed. Done it for 25 years.
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>I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. >And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Trinity TigerLily - 20 Mar 2006 19:49 GMT there is NO WAY i would enter a filthy bathroom to do my testing
i would FAR rather test in the car before i even enter the restaurant.......... i DO shoot my insulin (discretely) at the dinner table....... i've yet to be noticed
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> I think it would be unappetizing and inconsiderate to do a blood test openly > while in public or while eating dinner at a restaurant. It is always easy to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of my tongue. The enzymes in the saliva act as disinfectant and stop any > bleeding immediately. Nothing else is needed. Done it for 25 years. news:lb3Tf.18176$ng.747602@news20.bellglobal.com...
> >I personally test in washrooms when out in public, including my workplace. > >And that has made me notice that I have not seen anybody in public testing [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > > Trinity Ma¢k - 20 Mar 2006 22:14 GMT >I think it would be unappetizing and inconsiderate to do a blood test openly >while in public or while eating dinner at a restaurant. It is always easy to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >of my tongue. The enzymes in the saliva act as disinfectant and stop any >bleeding immediately. Nothing else is needed. Done it for 25 years. feel free to hide away as if you have done something wrong or you are somehow unclean.
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Trinity - 21 Mar 2006 01:00 GMT > I think it would be unappetizing and inconsiderate to do a blood test openly > while in public or while eating dinner at a restaurant. It is always easy to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of my tongue. The enzymes in the saliva act as disinfectant and stop any > bleeding immediately. Nothing else is needed. Done it for 25 years. That I won't do: lick my finger. Trinity
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Alan S - 21 Mar 2006 04:31 GMT >I think it would be unappetizing and inconsiderate to do a blood test openly >while in public or while eating dinner at a restaurant. It is always easy to >visit the bathroom for a few seconds. I would not go out to dinner again >with somebody who would be so inconsiderate. There is always the connection >(stigma) some people make to contact with blood and AIDS. Hi James.
I suspect we would only ever dine together once.
People can make whatever connection they like - that's their problem, not mine. I am discreet, I am not "in their face", but I will not compromise my health for their sensitivities. I treat testing as a matter of course, like adjusting your napkin or sipping my wine. There is a certain discretion about such activities - but they are simply a part of a normal meal.
I consider those people who blow their nose at the table both much more offensive - and much more dangerous to my health. I have left the table and retired from the feast, and would do so again, when a diner who obviously had the 'flu was happily eating between sniffles opposite me.
>As regards the blood: I just remove any small blood residue with one touch >of my tongue. The enzymes in the saliva act as disinfectant and stop any >bleeding immediately. Nothing else is needed. Done it for 25 years. Completely agreed. Finger-lickin' good.
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Cheri - 21 Mar 2006 04:34 GMT If there's anything more annoying and offputting than a noseblower at the table, I don't what it is. Give me a tester any day. :-)
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>I consider those people who blow their nose at the table >both much more offensive - and much more dangerous to my >health. I have left the table and retired from the feast, >and would do so again, when a diner who obviously had the >'flu was happily eating between sniffles opposite me. David - 21 Mar 2006 05:18 GMT > If there's anything more annoying and offputting than a noseblower at > the table, I don't what it is. Give me a tester any day. :-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>and would do so again, when a diner who obviously had the >>'flu was happily eating between sniffles opposite me. How about someone who eats with their mouth wide open AND smacks loudly? <g> My ex FIL used to do that...
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Alan S - 22 Mar 2006 00:51 GMT >> If there's anything more annoying and offputting than a noseblower at >> the table, I don't what it is. Give me a tester any day. :-) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Dave Offensive, but not life-threatening. Unless, of course he was bigger than me and didn't appreciate the comments that would come his way. I wouldn't leave unless I was in spray range.
Same for belchers and farters - but the range there is smaller since I gave up smoking and my sense of smell improved:-)
And they are all far more offensive to my sensibilities than testing at the table.
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Cheri - 22 Mar 2006 00:58 GMT Ditto. :-)
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>Same for belchers and farters - but the range there is >smaller since I gave up smoking and my sense of smell [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >-- >Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Grandpa Chuck - 21 Mar 2006 07:29 GMT >If there's anything more annoying and offputting than a noseblower at >the table, I don't what it is. Give me a tester any day. :-) LOL
I just knew it was only a matter of time. Every time this subject comes up sooner or later Cheri will tell us just how disgusted she is if someone blows there nose in a restaurant. I guess she doesn't differentiate between someone who unobtrusively blows their nose because it is running a bit with the troglodyte who sounds like a foghorn when they do it.
Cheri do you never eat any food that is spicy or is hot enough that it is steaming? As you know, we eat at our favorite Mexican restaurant at least once a week. One or both of us normally orders something that does have enough heat to it to clear the sinuses of a person suffering from a bad head cold. Neither of us makes a great show of blowing our nose, nor do we make any noise when doing it.
I surely am not going to set there with snot streaming down my upper lip into my mouth in order to avoid blowing my nose. Would you rather see someone doing that per chance? I doubt it.
Let's see; what was the discussion about to begin with? Oh, yes. Testing in public, especially restaurants. Personally, I normally avoid doing it. If I feel I need to test I try to do that while still in the car. On rare occasions when I felt shaky after entering the restaurant I have tested at the table. I have been just about as obvious about it as I am about blowing my nose. That is, the only person that would know I was doing it would have been Laurie and possibly the waitress if she happened to walk up to our table from behind me while I was testing. All of them know I am diabetic and if they mentioned it at all it was out of curiosity to know how it works.
Cheri, my friend, I sincerely hope you never catch a cold or develop hay fever. If you do then you will either be trapped in your house or take so much Pseudofed that everyone will think you are strung out on meth. Believe me, having your nose run a bit is way better than being all dried out from taking those things.
Thank you for giving me a good laugh.
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Cheri - 21 Mar 2006 17:52 GMT We already had this conversation. My views on nose blowing at the table are well known to you, and your views are well known to me. BTW, I was chuckling to myself when I posted, because I knew it was just a matter of hours before you came out with the same thing you said a few months ago, so I guess we're both pretty predictable huh? LOL Have a great day Chuck.
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>I just knew it was only a matter of time. Every time this subject >comes up sooner or later Cheri will tell us just how disgusted she is >if someone blows there nose in a restaurant. I guess she doesn't >differentiate between someone who unobtrusively blows their nose >because it is running a bit with the troglodyte who sounds like a >foghorn when they do it. Susan - 21 Mar 2006 18:02 GMT > We already had this conversation. My views on nose blowing at the table > are well known to you, and your views are well known to me. BTW, I was > chuckling to myself when I posted, because I knew it was just a matter > of hours before you came out with the same thing you said a few months > ago, so I guess we're both pretty predictable huh? LOL Have a great day > Chuck. I don't mind discreet nose wiping, but anything that makes a noise, should be done elsewhere so as not to nauseate others, IMO.
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Cheri - 21 Mar 2006 18:06 GMT Absolutely. I'm talking about nose blowing too. :-)
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Believe me I don't sound like some goose making a mating call. In fact, unless you happen to look directly at me you probably wouldn't even know I was wiping or blowing my cute little nose.
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Today, March 21, 2006 It has been 1055 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
I'll finish with the story of the Native American talking to his granddaughter about the two warring dogs in his soul. One dog was filled with hate and fear, the other was full of love and peace. His granddaughter asked, "Grandfather, which dog wins?" He replied, "The one I feed."
Alan S - 22 Mar 2006 00:57 GMT >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Susan I couldn't care less about the noise. Nor about hayfever. However, I do care about staying clear of those who appear in public with a highly communicable disease like the flu or a bad cold.
When I was an employer running a cab call centre, in a past life, any employee who turned up for work with the sniffles was sent straight home again. It was cheaper to pay their wages not to come to work than paying relief staff to cover half your shift going sick the following week.
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Grandpa Chuck - 21 Mar 2006 19:59 GMT >We already had this conversation. My views on nose blowing at the table >are well known to you, and your views are well known to me. BTW, I was >chuckling to myself when I posted, because I knew it was just a matter >of hours before you came out with the same thing you said a few months >ago, so I guess we're both pretty predictable huh? LOL Have a great day >Chuck. Thanks sweetie. You just must come to Cedar Rapids and go out to eat with us at El Rancho Mexican Restaurant. Don't worry. I promise to make sure I have a clean hanky. Do you like the old fashioned red ones, the blue ones or something a little more up to date such as the bright yellow farmer's handkerchief that I have. ;-)
How do you feel about the parents of young children having the kids blow their noses at the table rather than having that stream from the nose to their noisy little mouth? If it's okay for the kid, why not the adult who knows how to do it without making a spectacle of themselves?
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Today, March 21, 2006 It has been 1055 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
I'll finish with the story of the Native American talking to his granddaughter about the two warring dogs in his soul. One dog was filled with hate and fear, the other was full of love and peace. His granddaughter asked, "Grandfather, which dog wins?" He replied, "The one I feed."
Anil - 21 Mar 2006 20:37 GMT Oh I love you Grandpa so much. Your common sense is so intoxicating. You are giving me some additional nudge to have the courage to say what I am about to say!
If I can take my dog for a walk and he/she is allowed to make a put a marker (am thinking of the watery kind folks!) just about anywhere, why is similar action by me becomes a source of income for my town/city by fining my perfectly natural action?
Why is testing my blood in public view is offensive, rude and disgusting action but eating half done stake with red juice (same may call it by mistake blood colored liquid) so very appetizing. And how about selecting a live lobster to be cooked live by putting in boiling water in front of you?
You get the idea. Its one thing to say one is being sensitive. But given a different context the some of the same actions become equally unwelcome for person with different upbringing.
So relax. If some one is going to make a big deal about your need to do a perfectly legit action the fault may very well not be yours. Given the number of folks lined up to join our club, we may very well have an iBleed (along the lines of iPod) we could carry around with pride! Hey may be I should ask these guys to think of iPod to test my blood too! Now that is a billion $$$ idea right there
Anil
Cheri - 21 Mar 2006 21:09 GMT OK, here's the deal, when you are on all fours, and on a leash, and your dog is taking you out for a walk, you'll be excused. ;-) Just like one of our neighbors said when another neighbors dog pooped in his yard. The offending neighbor said... well, your kid comes into my yard sometimes too. My neighbor then said, when my kid comes into your yard and poops, please let me know and I'll deal with it, in the meantime, clean this sh.t up. -- Cheri
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>If I can take my dog for a walk and he/she is allowed to make a put a >marker (am thinking of the watery kind folks!) just about anywhere, why >is similar action by me becomes a source of income for my town/city by >fining my perfectly natural action? >Anil Anil - 21 Mar 2006 21:16 GMT So you ate now saying that we have created a society where the dogs have more rights than people right? Just checking :-). And by the way when he pees I am not required to do any cleanup!
Take care Cheri... BTW strictly speaking I don't need 4, three is the correct number.
Anil
Grandpa Chuck - 22 Mar 2006 00:18 GMT >Oh I love you Grandpa so much. Your common sense is so intoxicating. >You are giving me some additional nudge to have the courage to say what [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Anil Thank you so much. For years I had people stare at my psoriasis and then turn away if they realized I knew they were looking. Actually, I didn't mind at all most of the time. In fact, I always hoped they would have to courage to say something like, "What is that?" so I could give them a very quick, simplified education about the disease.
Quite often it was some little kid that would be honest enough to ask something like, "You got an owie mister?" Usually Mommy would tell them to stop staring and leave me alone. Instead if they would let me I would tell the little tyke (while Mommy was listening) that it doesn't hurt and I didn't injure it. It is just skin that grows about ten times as fast and as thick as ordinary skin. It is not contagious and is not some kind of infection. Sometimes then the Mommy might ask a question or two about it. I could tell you numerous stories since I have had it all of my life, although I didn't know what it was until I was properly diagnosed in my early fifties.
Well, when I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes I kind of used the same attitude. That goes to the old saying, "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade." I have never made a big show of testing at all. However, if someone happens to see me doing it and asks I give them a brief explanation. There have also been times when I may have said that I don't eat some particular food because of diabetes or when some well intentioned person has told me that I can't eat this or that because of diabetes. I then tell them I can eat just about anything so long as I practice portion control and watch my blood glucose readings. If they then ask how I do that I have sometimes asked, "Would you like to see how I test?" More often than not they do want to see how it is done. They are usually amazed that it takes so little blood and that I don't flinch when I use the lancet. They think it takes more blood and a bigger cut. More than a few times I have had them ask if I could test their blood to see what theirs is. I change lancets and if they will let them use it or if they want I will do it.
In other words, I use it as an educational tool.
I think we make far too much fuss over normal things in life such as belching and farting. For instance, I worked with a man who is a close friend. This guy is a mountain of a man and very masculine. I have heard him on more than one occasions tell one of our fellow workers, "If you must do that, have the courtesy to go to the bathroom to do it. Otherwise hold it in." Now when you have a bunch of blue collar workers kidding around and there aren't any ladies nearby some will actually do their darnedest to make as much noise and a big show out of polluting the air with their methane. I don't think it is something that we have to make a big joke out of, but nor do I feel that I should have to give myself a gut ache trying to wait until I get somewhere that has a bathroom available. (Not when at times we didn't get near one for four hours or more at a time.)
What I never did figure out was why one of them would do this when they were all gathered in one place and then kind of have a contest to see who would move away first rather than inhaling the odor.
Little kids think belching and farting are about the funniest things on this earth. I wonder why we stop agreeing with them.
Would I do it at the table in a restaurant? No way. At least not intentionally. OTOH, in some societies that is considered a compliment to the cooking. Some compliment!
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Today, March 21, 2006 It has been 1055 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
I'll finish with the story of the Native American talking to his granddaughter about the two warring dogs in his soul. One dog was filled with hate and fear, the other was full of love and peace. His granddaughter asked, "Grandfather, which dog wins?" He replied, "The one I feed."
Anil - 22 Mar 2006 00:47 GMT Dear Grandpa Chuck,
So I can see you are practicing "portion control" at either end of the food chain!
Now if only we can collect all the methane generated, none of our guys would have to die in a war no one wants!
Just an observation!
Anil
Grandpa Chuck - 22 Mar 2006 01:05 GMT >Dear Grandpa Chuck, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Anil Gee whiz! With all the hogs and cows here in Iowa if we could equip each one with a bag to collect that we could solve all of our energy problems within a couple of years and at the same time remove a lot of the odor from the feed lots.
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Today, March 21, 2006 It has been 1055 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
I'll finish with the story of the Native American talking to his granddaughter about the two warring dogs in his soul. One dog was filled with hate and fear, the other was full of love and peace. His granddaughter asked, "Grandfather, which dog wins?" He replied, "The one I feed."
Ma¢k - 22 Mar 2006 02:18 GMT On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:59:27 GMT, Grandpa Chuck <Grandpa Chuck@B4ME.org> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:
>>We already had this conversation. My views on nose blowing at the table >>are well known to you, and your views are well known to me. BTW, I was [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >the adult who knows how to do it without making a spectacle of >themselves? uh, do you wear yours in your right or your left pocket?
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warning do not reading if you are hyper-psycho-religious or hate anything not a carbon copy of yourself.
I can't believe you said you were gonna bring colored hankies.
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