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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Barilla Pasta
Good evening, my fellow Earthlings and metabolically challenged friends, Has anyone here ever tried Barilla pasta, plus, as in de Italia? It is truly fabulous, only 13% carb, and it has significant Omega 3 ALA. We had that last night,with a very nice sauce, and French Greenbeans.... and two moderate martinis ... This morning, my BG was 88... That beats anything I ever achieved with Dreamfields pasta, or any other kind of pasta... Just thought I'd pass it on... Have a wonderful evening everyone! Salut! Bon appetit! Keep the best, and disregard the rest.... Will, T2 > Good evening, my fellow Earthlings and metabolically challenged > friends, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Will, T2 Will, I've never seen it, can you supply the ingredient and nutrition information, with carb content and portion size? By ALA, do they mean alpha linoleic acid? (or is that linolenic?). I think Evelyn is the one who tipped me off to Barilla no boil lasagna noodles; they're as good as homemade pasta, and so thin they're moderate carb. About 40 pasta carb grams in a third of a 9" x 13" pan, which is three times as much as I eat. Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Susan Ok, Susan, here goes.... This applies to the Barilla plus label, only. Maybe I misread the labels, you be the judge... Opon re-examination, I think maybe I did misread the label, but it still seems like good stuff! Of a typical given serving size of 2 oz., there are 200 calories, of which only 10 are from fat. Total carbs are 13% daily value Dietary fiber is 16% Sugars are 1 gm Protein is 10gm, or 17% daily vaue Although the label does not specify, because it refers to the content in terms of ALA Omega 3, I take it to mean Alpha Linolenic Acid..... It appears to be made of Durum wheat, Oats, spelt, barley, lentils, chick peas, and ground flaxseed.. All's I can say, Susan, if it works, it is worth another try... Believe me, when I say, the only soap boxes I know of are all susceptible to collapse... So I am not promoting anything! Please do not shoot me... I am only the piano player! :-) Seriously, I hope you are well tonight. I really do like you a lot, Susan.... You are truly great a contrubutor here! You rock! :-) Will, T2 > Ok, Susan, here goes.... > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Will, T2 Will... You're looking at the total percentage of nutrients based on a 2000 calorie a day diet. The info for 2 oz of the THIN SPAGHETTI is: Total Carbs: 38g Fiber: 4g Sugars: 1g Protein: 10g Fat: 1g Sat Fat: 0g Trans Fat: 0g INGREDIENTS: Semolina, grain and legume flour blend (lentils, chick peas, oats, spelt, barley, egg whites, ground flaxseeds and wheat fiber), niacin, ferrous lactate (iron), thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid. Contains ALA Omega-3 (contains 200mg ALA per 56g (2 oz) serving, which 15% of the Daily Value for ALA 1.3g). Jennifer >Will... > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Jennifer Thanks, Jennifer, I suspected there was some sort of twist in the info... It really did work for what I had last night, though. Will, T2 > It really did work for what I had last night, though. > > Will, T2 How do you know? Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Susan You are the insistant one, aren't you? ;-) Well, all I have to go on is my BG when I awoke, because as you know, I was lazy, and did not test late at night.... But, on the bright side, it was an historic low for me.... Which is why I mentioned it and thought it worth sharing.... Thanks for your constant questioning, by the way, Susan. I really do appreciate that about you. Really, I do. Your attitude keeps intellectual honesty alive, and first and foremost, I think that is worth preserving... You, Jenny, Jennifer, and several others are real treasures here... Please keep on keeping on.... :-) Will, T2 > You are the insistant one, aren't you? ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > worth preserving... You, Jenny, Jennifer, and several others are real > treasures here... Please keep on keeping on.... :-) Next time you have it, test at one and two hours and report back? Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Susan OK, you have a deal... There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) Will, t2 > OK, you have a deal... > > There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into > chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) Just go easy on the matzoh brei... Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Susan Hello again, Susan... matzoh brei... Now you are getting me hungry! Do you know of any low carb matzoh out there? Last year, I allowed myself only 1 matzoh ball in some soup.... It was very good, but not enough..... Will, T2 > Hello again, Susan... matzoh brei... Now you are getting me hungry! > > Do you know of any low carb matzoh out there? Nope. I haven't had any in years. I used to love it smeared with butter and salt. > Last year, I allowed myself only 1 matzoh ball in some soup.... It was > very good, but not enough..... I just don't go there anymore. :-( Susan Will, I* buy the thinnest matzoh I can find and also whole wheat which has some fiber and thus lower carbs. I dont do matzoh balls. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. : Will, I* buy the thinnest matzoh I can find and also whole wheat which : has some fiber and thus lower carbs. : I dont do matzoh balls. : Loretta : -- : In tribute to the United States of America and the State : of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and : terrorism. The Rakusen's Matzoh comes in smaller sized sheets, so one is the equivalent of a slice of bread, rather than the 2/3 of a regular sheet. They also make a small shole wheat matzo cracker sized one that can be used with care! I make small, light matzo balls so allow myself 2:-) What is a problem for me is the homey, matzafarfl, ginger,nuts candy that is an old family recipe I make. It is hard to know if Ihave added enough ginger unless I taste it, as it is one of those old recipes with approximate measuements. I still make it and mail it to assorted kids and cousins. Wendy >: Will, I* buy the thinnest matzoh I can find and also whole wheat which >: has some fiber and thus lower carbs. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Wendy Thanks, Wendy I'll look for it... I just really like it at a Seder at passover ... That is one of the best traditions going, and Matzoh really makes it! :-) Will, T2 Wendy that was the name of the matzoh I was thinking about thanks Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Wendy that was the name of the matzoh I was thinking about thanks She's thinking about the syrupy horrible Maneschewitz wine made out of concord grapes somewhere in the Catstkills that was the only wine we were allowed to have at Pesach when I was a kid. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control > There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into > chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) > > Will, t2 Stock up on your gefilte fish! If you eat the non-sweet kind (which I prefer anyway)... it's a mere 1g of carbs per piece! A great lunch with a big salad and some horseradish. Jennifer >> There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into >> chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Jennifer Sounds yummy! Will, T2 I had a crazy breakfast yesterday. I had one and a half pieces of the weetabix cereal with two slices of gefilte fish. It was delicious. I prefer the sweet so I go for the extra three carbs. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into > chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) Funny, "McKee" doesn't look Jewish. <G> Test your pasta at 5 hours. I have a sneaking suspicion that your 88 is a reactive low. <sigh> --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into >> chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood >Sugar Under Control You never know about some of those pesky ancestors, Jenny. Actually it is Irish/ Scots-Irish... Nevertheless, a significant part of my heritage is Jewish, so I am very much imbued with that culture and tradition... Indeed, I go to Shabbat from time to time, and I very much own that part of who I am.... When I was younger I used to date a very nice Jewish girl, but alas, she married a rabbi. I even have my computer set up for Hebrew, if that tells you anything;-) All I have to do is click my mouse, and presto, I have a Hebrew computer... The mapping of the English keyboard does get to be problematic, however. I am looking for a Hebrew keyboard, but they are hard to find around here.... Sounds like bad news to be getting a reactive low.... bummer.... I shall check it more closely over the next few days. Here's hoping you might be wrong.... Wishing you all the best on this fine Sunday afternoon. Will, T2 : >x-no-archive: yes : > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] : > : >Susan : OK, you have a deal... : There is a holiday coming up. Unfortunately, I do not get into : chocolate.. I do gefilte fish and other such treats.. :-) : Will, t2 I find that all the wine gives me remarkably low readings for the seder. of course, I do watch what i eat, but not as much as I usually do. It is , also , definitely, a Starlix night:-) Wendy > I find that all the wine gives me remarkably low readings for the seder. > of course, I do watch what i eat, but not as much as I usually do. It is > , also , definitely, a Starlix night:-) > > Wendy Clearly you're not drinking Manischewitz ; ) Jennifer >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Next time you have it, test at one and two hours and report back? Don't forget the four and five hour levels. That carb load would take some amount of time to reduce. Not good for us T2s. : >x-no-archive: yes : > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : > : >Susan : You are the insistant one, aren't you? ;-) : Well, all I have to go on is my BG when I awoke, because as you know, : I was lazy, and did not test late at night.... But, on the bright : side, it was an historic low for me.... Which is why I mentioned it : and thought it worth sharing.... : Thanks for your constant questioning, by the way, Susan. I really do : appreciate that about you. Really, I do. Your attitude keeps : intellectual honesty alive, and first and foremost, I think that is : worth preserving... You, Jenny, Jennifer, and several others are real : treasures here... Please keep on keeping on.... :-) : Will, T2 It is too bad tht you didn't test last night after the pasta. It is the onl way to really know if it spiked you or not. Often a spike at night does not resultin a higher fbg in the morning. You martini might well had spresd or slightly delayed the crbs and resultant bg rise too, but we all will never know. Wendy >: Will, T2 >It is too bad tht you didn't test last night after the pasta. It is the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Wendy OK, Wendy, susan, and Jennifer... You are on! ... I shall repeat the "experimient" under scientific conditions, testing every hour for five hours... In your honor, I shall even have two precisely measured martinis! :-) I'll let you know about the results... It probably won't happen for a few days, but you will be the first to know! Will, T2 >> Ok, Susan, here goes.... >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >Fiber: 4g >Sugars: 1g 38 carbs deserves a great big ouch. Grab the bottle of novolog before eating this lil keg of dynamite. Not for me since it would blow me out of the water. 13% daily value works out to about 40 grams of carbs per 2 oz. serving. This is the same as any other standard pasta, white or whole wheat. In addition to Dreamfields, which I have yet to find, there is also Mueller's whole wheat lo-carb pasta, which has 19 grams of net carbs in a 2 oz. serving. Mueller's is also packaged as a number of private label brands, which can be identified by the identical nutrition labels. I buy it at Trader Joes, where it is sold as Trader Joe's Penne Regate and also Trader Joe's Rotini. I also have seen it in Lasgna form, though the store that had it was discontinuing that brand, also made by Mueller's. Pretty good past and unoless you are much lower carb thqan me, you don't have to feel like you're having a half portion. Morris > Of a typical given serving size of 2 oz., there are 200 calories, of > which only 10 are from fat. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Will, T2 > Good evening, my fellow Earthlings and metabolically challenged > friends, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > This morning, my BG was 88... That beats anything I ever achieved with > Dreamfields pasta, or any other kind of pasta... Last year I bought a box of the Barilla Plus. Note, I'm Type 1 using an insulin pump. I just looked through some log books to see when I ate it, and I discovered that I went low after it one time. BUT, that was probably because my insulin:carb ratio for dinner was set incorrectly. I found two entries and one night I was low 2 hours and 3 hours after eating. The other I was 75 at two hours and 119 at 4 hours. At the time I ate it, I think my ratio was 1:8 (1 unit of insulin for every 8 carbs) and now it's 1:13. I actually came across the open box in my pantry a couple of weeks ago and threw the rest of it out, because I was running out of room. I like pasta but don't eat it too often. I buy lower fat chicken sausage to go with it and so when I do have it, I really enjoy it.  SignatureLiz Type 1 dx 4/1987 Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 >> Good evening, my fellow Earthlings and metabolically challenged >> friends, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >I like pasta but don't eat it too often. I buy lower fat chicken sausage to >go with it and so when I do have it, I really enjoy it. Thanks, Liz Even though you are a T1 and face different challenges, I think your experience compares with mine... As a T2, Barilla works for me, at least so far... Quite frankly, I was astonished. That is why I just had to share my experience. By the way, I really do enjoy the low fat chicken sausage! I sincerely do hope you are well these days..... Will, T2 > Thanks, Liz > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 Will, I have worked on changing my basal rates and insulin:carb ratios a lot the past month. I think I still need to do a little more tweaking but once I do, I'll try pasta again. I do okay with most carbs but I've discovered that corn meal (as in cornbread or muffins) really messes me up. I'm determined to figure out a way to make it work, though. Regular corn doesn't have the same effect. Chicken sausage is my favorite recent discovery. A supermarket near me had some in their frozen section, Garlic and Sundried Tomato & Basil. The Garlic flavor is fantastic. I just got a different brand from Whole Foods but haven't tried them yet. SignatureLiz Type 1 dx 4/1987 Minimed Paradigm 715 5/2005 I never have a two ounce serving, I make due with one ounce so that it is 100 calories and less than twenty five carbs for the meal. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > I never have a two ounce serving, I make due with one ounce so that it > is 100 calories and less than twenty five carbs for the meal. Wow, Loretta! Is that 4 strands or 5? ;-) You *are* the Portion Control Queen. Susan Susan it is a lot more than you think. It is about thirty strands from my naked eye. It works for me. I do weigh it though. It is about 3/4 cup after being cooked. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Susan it is a lot more than you think. It is about thirty strands from > my naked eye. It works for me. > > I do weigh it though. It is about 3/4 cup after being cooked. Really? 1 oz measures that much? I only cook it 7 minutes, so it's al dente, so I don't think mine would bulk up that much. Anyway, I just meant to say that I'm impressed by your discipline. Susan I love Barilla products Will, I use their sauces and their various pastas, including the whole wheat ones which I dont like as much as the regular. Barilla is the only one for the Eisenberg-Steinfeld house -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Good evening, my fellow Earthlings and metabolically challenged > friends, > > Has anyone here ever tried Barilla pasta, plus, as in de Italia? Haven't seen it yet, but I'll be on the lookout! Their Italian Baking Sauce makes wonderful eggplant parmesan. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control Did anyone take into consideration the "two moderate martinis? That would give me an excellentreading also, p.m. or next a.m. (as does half glass of red wine). 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