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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Why is it that most in here are sick?
Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? The main posters in here are all a complete mess with their health yet they act like they have all the answers. The Truth is they don't. It's like a freakin' hospital clinic in here and the patients have taken over the asylum. Jennifer's advice is given out like candy yet she is grossly overweight. Alan S. is on all kinds of meds. Mack has all kinds of problems with his health. Susan is a cripple. Jenny seems to have every disorder known to manking. Julie Bove is the same, is she and Jenny both just hypochondriacs who are hooked on medical information? Ozgirl can't go one post without talking about her family....I feel sorry for her kids who she diagnosis daily and no wonder her husband left her. Cheri is a chain smoking moron who loves to give advice to others about health. Ha! And these are just a few of the main people playing doctor to others when their own lives are a mess. Diabetes is just one of their problems and they can't even take care of that! If they have such good advice how come they can't help themselves? New people coming here take note of this. Before you accept advice from strangers spend a little time and do your research on who is giving it to you. Do you want to be like them? That's the Truth Another closet troll out for a evening "sTROLL".  SignatureJoe W T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) & 30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.***** > Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not > in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > taken over the asylum. > That's the Truth You do not belong here YOu are far off base. This is a support group when it function correctly. The problem with diabetes is the comp;ocations come up later from ongoing damage. It is a bear trap. I can say that the finding of MHD and the group with the many qualified people is the reason I AM ALIVE NOW. Plus the last years are so much better. I was losing the battle big time in almost complete ignorance. I was able to get an affordable internet connection I went on an search for diabetic information which was very limited and much of it wrong. I stumbled on the news group called misc.health. diabetes I have been following this group since the mid 90's. I owe a lot to DR. Reid and so many. MY total knowledge was --take your NPH in the morning. Check your urine. Then when the labs showed very high blood sugars, I was "overeating". I had slowly gone from 190 lb to 145 lbs. When I was finally given the proper information, I did a lot of tests. The NPH only lasted 12 hours and then my system sent my blood sugar TO LEVELS LIKE 800. ON and on.--- I did not get my info from the docs but from some of those that you are so critical about. The group has been diluted by misfits and the medical profession is catching up. It was sad when I found out I had diabetes. Some here looking for entertainment should find it elsewhere. I am 76 years old, with a missing leg and a dozen other problems. I do not lay on my rear but do things like planting a lot of trees and varied activities. If I stop I will be gone shortly. , It is so necessary that we be positive toward other diabetics and to be super critical of the money grubbers that are an anchor on diabetic research. We are damn ignorant but still a long way ahead of 1976 when I started this game. Jennifer's test test test is very good advice. A few locals, I had contact with, that did not "keep Up" are long gone and went a bad way... Guy >Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not >in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >That's the Truth >Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not >in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >That's the Truth Who let the dogs out? Will, T2 LOL Will, LOL. -- Cheri W.M.McKee wrote in message <6dvk12pa878ckgo2ihsvj7v4e1l29613lm@4ax.com>... >>Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not >>in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >Will, T2 <all the crap snipped> Well, bonehead, I'll merely answer your subject line. Most of us here have diabetes and that's an illness. Illness = sick. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnal! The remaining folks who don't have diabetes either know someone with diabetes or are merely spammers, scammers or trolls like you! SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm "Julie Bove" <julienospambove@verizon.net> wrote in message > Well, bonehead, I'll merely answer your subject line. Most of us here have > diabetes and that's an illness. Illness = sick. Look that up in your Funk > and Wagnal! The remaining folks who don't have diabetes either know someone > with diabetes or are merely spammers, scammers or trolls like you! Ah, an old friend who can't stay away. Wonder if she'll leave it at just the two messages of today. ><all the crap snipped> > >Well, bonehead, I'll merely answer your subject line. Most of us here have >diabetes and that's an illness. Illness = sick. Look that up in your Funk >and Wagnal! The remaining folks who don't have diabetes either know someone >with diabetes or are merely spammers, scammers or trolls like you! Hi Julie, Sorry I did not have the presence of mind to snip out all the crap like you did, before I responded to this idiot. Your response is a perfect example of how to respond to a troll... Will, T2 >><all the crap snipped> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > like you did, before I responded to this idiot. Your response is a > perfect example of how to respond to a troll... Actually, it's best not to respond to a troll at all. Trolls are trolling for responses, so if people don't bite, then the trolls get bored & leave. http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/anti_troll_faq.htm Subject: 5.1 Ignore them and they will go away. This is the traditional usenet method of dealing with Trolls, and is regularly suggested.It is similar to the method use to train dogs, and very young children, ignore bad behaviour and reward good behaviour. Thus it is only likely to work if the, The Infant or Attention Seeker theory, is true. >> Hi Julie, >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >behaviour. Thus it is only likely to work if the, The Infant >or Attention Seeker theory, is true. POst like this should be answered. to remind all why we are here. I do not care about the troll.since we do have good answers At least we did not have an agenda to sell here. Too many try to use this group with personal whims which does not fit since we come from every segment of our society. Diabetes attacks all. Anyway all of us two legged critters seem too dumb to not create enemies that can kill us. Even Chung seems to understand this. Weak people like to chop others up to prove what? We know the people that count. > This is the traditional usenet method of dealing with > Trolls, and is regularly suggested..... A 'tradition' that isn't followed. What actually happens in practice is that - ten or more people argue with the troll, and - five or more people post "Please don't feed the trolls" (some of us multiple times) to no avail. SignatureWes Groleau He that is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else. -- Benjamin Franklin > <all the crap snipped> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Funk > and Wagnal! Wow, Julie - I don't know what Funk and Wagnal is, but that sounds like an excellent insult : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >> <all the crap snipped> >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Nicky. Hi Nicky, Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well known as Britannica or World Book.... Will, T2 > >> <all the crap snipped> > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well > known as Britannica or World Book.... Ah...but the "look that up in your Funk and Wagnal" line goes back to a series of comedy routines on one of the late 60s variety shows. I want to say it was Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, but it could have been The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball > Ah...but the "look that up in your Funk and Wagnal" line goes back to a > series of comedy routines on one of the late 60s variety shows. I want > to say it was Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, but it could have been The > Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. I'm pretty sure you were right the first time; Dick Martin on Laugh-In. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'm pretty sure you were right the first time; Dick Martin on Laugh-In. That was my first thought, but it *was* almost 40 years ago! SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball > That was my first thought, but it *was* almost 40 years ago! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Susan here come the judge Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > That was my first thought, but it *was* almost 40 years ago! Just goes to show that our memories aren't shot! SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm >> Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well >> known as Britannica or World Book.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >to say it was Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, but it could have been The >Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. As I recall, it was the constant references to it on "Laugh-In" that made it a household word. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 16, 2006 is 2,317. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 18, 2006 It has been 1052 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:36:33 -0500, Alice Faber <afaber@panix.com> wrote:icky. >> Hi Nicky, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >to say it was Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, but it could have been The >Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. That was one of my favorite shows... I didn't even think of that! I think it was Rowan and Martin.... I used to catch Smothers Brothers every week, also, right up until I got sent off to Vietnam... Will, t2 > Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well > known as Britannica or World Book.... I think it's a dictionary. At least that's what the one in my father's bookcase was. Very thick one. I'll never forget one of the entries. While looking for something else, I was intrigued by the word "anthropophagus" The definition was "one of the anthropophagi" SignatureWes Groleau Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before ... He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. -- Kurt Vonnegut : > Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well : > known as Britannica or World Book.... : I think it's a dictionary. At least that's what the one : in my father's bookcase was. Very thick one. : I'll never forget one of the entries. While looking for something : else, I was intrigued by the word "anthropophagus" The definition : was "one of the anthropophagi" Back in the 4th grade I ws sent to teh library to look up the plural of Mongoose, in the big Webste. Did you know it is mongooses, not mongeese? Wendy >: > Funk and Wagnalls is a somewhat popular Encyclopedia... Not as well >: > known as Britannica or World Book.... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Wendy Yes, I knew it, but I don't really care. LOL My head is already full of little bits of trivia that surface at the most unpredictable times. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 16, 2006 is 2,318. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 104 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 19, 2006 It has been 1053 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." > Wow, Julie - I don't know what Funk and Wagnal is, but that sounds like an > excellent insult : ) It's a dictionary. That's an old joke from the TV comedy show, Laugh In. They'd say something and then say, "Look THAT up in your Funk and Wagnal!" SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm : > Wow, Julie - I don't know what Funk and Wagnal is, but that sounds like an : > excellent insult : ) : It's a dictionary. That's an old joke from the TV comedy show, Laugh In. : They'd say something and then say, "Look THAT up in your Funk and Wagnal!" Also constantly referred to on Johnny Carson, where the questions were stored in a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's porch. Wendy > Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not > in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? People who don't have problems don't waste their time in support newsgroups. I've got several medical problems, and the ones I know most about are the ones I suffer from the most. Why does that surprise you? SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] > > Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not > > in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > most about are the ones I suffer from the most. Why does that surprise > you? Don't waste your breath, it's a disgruntled ex asd'er who isn't computer savvy enough to cover her tracks in her two posts today. Quite sad really. At least my "sickness" is loving my kids. Not that her comments about my motherhood wasn't a big giveaway before other evidence was found. > Don't waste your breath, it's a disgruntled ex asd'er who > isn't computer savvy enough to cover her tracks in her two > posts today. Quite sad really. At least my "sickness" is > loving my kids. Not that her comments about my motherhood > wasn't a big giveaway before other evidence was found. The meanness gave her away. Plus the usual pattern of accusing others of the things she herself is guilty of. She's the one always posting how she's on all kinds of pain meds, sho claims to have every disorder known to man, who posts how she's a cripple, and when she runs out of ways to demand sympathy she posts about her kid's health problems. Now she's back to see if she can get the newsgroup discussion back to being all about her again. <sigh> --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control I don't remember her ever saying she was on a pain med if it's who I think it is. She is big on the ADA though. ;-) -- Cheri Jenny wrote in message ... >> Don't waste your breath, it's a disgruntled ex asd'er who >> isn't computer savvy enough to cover her tracks in her two [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood >Sugar Under Control > I don't remember her ever saying she was on a pain med if it's who I > think it is. She is big on the ADA though. ;-) > > -- Think two initials. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Think two initials. That's what I was thinking too, given the grammatical errors. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm No, absolutely not. We're pretty good friends, and email often, and she wouldn't call me a moron, though the ADA postergirl would. :-) -- Cheri >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Susan > No, absolutely not. We're pretty good friends, and email often, and she > wouldn't call me a moron, though the ADA postergirl would. :-) Okay; let's consider who's so frequently harping on your smoking? Susan Not her, because she smokes too, but maybe I'm not getting who you're talking about with the 2 initials? At any rate, I have no respect for anyone that comes in blindsiding with an alias, so let the cowardly little lion have it's fun. :-) -- Cheri >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Susan > No, absolutely not. We're pretty good friends, and email often, and she > wouldn't call me a moron, though the ADA postergirl would. :-) Hit the nail on thehead Cheri :) Why she bothered to try and hide I ahve no idea. Even without header information she was obvious. On the other hand it sounds a lot like it could have come out of the Bay Area, which would mean 3 initials. <grin> -- Cheri >Think two initials. > >Susan > On the other hand it sounds a lot like it could have come out of the Bay > Area, which would mean 3 initials. <grin> > > -- > Cheri Whoever it is, is an a$$hole. I'm sure someone here is savvy enough to get it from the headers. But we've given the jerk too much attention already. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I'm sure someone here is savvy enough to get it from the headers. I am not 100% sure, but from the headers, it looks as if the post is done from Kinko's - so no real way to figure out who it is. Unfortunately, I am not computer savvy, and never know who is posting if they change their nick, which can be a blessing at times. :) True, about the a$$hole, and the attention. -- Cheri >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Susan > On the other hand it sounds a lot like it could have come out of the Bay > Area, which would mean 3 initials. <grin> Definitely someone on Pacific time but female. > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Think two initials. No, think a name starting with S. >>x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > No, think a name starting with S. Or a Mr. G.? But WTF cares? Whoever it is is a flaming a$$hole. Susan > No, think a name starting with S. I told ya there was a good reason I divorced her! > > No, think a name starting with S. > > I told ya there was a good reason I divorced her! Lol > > Don't waste your breath, it's a disgruntled ex asd'er who > > isn't computer savvy enough to cover her tracks in her two [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Now she's back to see if she can get the newsgroup discussion back to > being all about her again. <sigh> Actually you are on the wrong track. Read a few headers of a recently departed female who loves the ADA and despises my motherhood for some reason. > Actually you are on the wrong track. Read a few headers of a > recently departed female who loves the ADA and despises my > motherhood for some reason. Well, if that's the case, apologies are in order. OTOH, anyone who has a history of hostile posts which makes them easy to confuse with another troll isn't going to get too much sympathy. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> Actually you are on the wrong track. Read a few headers of a >> recently departed female who loves the ADA and despises my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >--Jenny an apology followed by a rationalization for why the original offense is rationalized in the mind of the offender is not an apology. It's just a rationalization. but you already knew that. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . I am not a chain smoker, though I do smoke. I'm self managed, and rarely see doctors, mostly due to having no health insurance, so I don't give medical advice to others about health, though I do try to give support when I can. You can't show where I gave medical/health advice, because it didn't happen. On the other hand, you seem to be a cowardly little thing who doesn't even have the courage to post using your regular nick. Come back with your real nick when you have the courage of your convictions. Wanna bet that will be a long time? -- Cheri IMTruthasd@lycos.com wrote in message >Cheri is a chain smoking moron who loves to give advice to others about >health. Ha! Um? Have you read the title of this NG? It's for people who have diabetes, who are sick. And I, like many people who have Type II, have other problems as well. I'll tell you this: I _look_ a lot healthier than I did before diagnosis and getting on this NG. (Not counting how bad I looked right around the time I was diagnosed in the hospital.) Hey. I'm P.O.'d. I didn't get mentioned! I'd rather be criticized than ignored. Everyone on the list is an ASD star in my book and I just wish I were listed among you. BTW...If this author is the you know who (double letter name) referred to earlier...I'm surprised I didn't get trashed. My list of faults for all to see: 1. Social hermit in the real world 2. Obsessive compulsive 3. Bald and gaunt 4. Easily annoyed 5. Takes 4 meds plus insulin 6. Hates meetings OK, I'll list mine: 1.Social hermit in the real world 2. Smoker 3.Occasional drinker 4. Ungaunt, but not particularly fat either. 5. Takes 2 medications 500mg Metformin, 2mg Amaryl. 6. Hates cowardly posters who change their nicks to attack. :-) -- Cheri Uncle Enrico wrote in message ... >My list of faults for all to see: >1. Social hermit in the real world [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >5. Takes 4 meds plus insulin >6. Hates meetings :: OK, I'll list mine: :: :: 1.Social hermit in the real world What exactly is a "social hermit", anyway? I fear that most of us frequent posters will end up in that grouping, and that won' be good for me. I'm way too cool to be a social hermit! :) :: 2. Smoker :: 3.Occasional drinker :: 4. Ungaunt, but not particularly fat either. :) :: 5. Takes 2 medications 500mg Metformin, 2mg Amaryl. :: 6. Hates cowardly posters who change their nicks to attack. :-) I think it must be more fun that way....imagine how many folks get raked as potential cowards. :: -- :: Cheri [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] ::: 5. Takes 4 meds plus insulin ::: 6. Hates meetings To me, it means I used to be social butterfly, loving parties, shopping, and always on the go, now I prefer to stay home, don't care for parties, don't care for shopping anymore, don't really care for crowds anymore, and usually in bed by nine or so reading. You're right, you're way to cool to be one. :-) -- Cheri >What exactly is a "social hermit", anyway? I fear that most of us frequent >posters will end up in that grouping, and that won' be good for me. I'm way >too cool to be a social hermit! :) :: To me, it means I used to be social butterfly, loving parties, :: shopping, and always on the go, now I prefer to stay home, don't :: care for parties, don't care for shopping anymore, don't really care :: for crowds anymore, and usually in bed by nine or so reading. You're :: right, you're way to cool to be one. :-) I don't know about that...I was never a social butterfly, never loved parties, don't really like shopping (excluding going for gadgets and looking at girls). I've never liked crowds. Now, I don't get in bed by nine, though I do get up early! Now that I think about it, my dad once referred to me as a hermit when I was a kid. So, even though I'm cool, I'm a closet "social hermit". Please don't tell anyone. :) :: -- :: Cheri [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] :: I'm way ::: too cool to be a social hermit! :) > My list of faults for all to see: > 3. Bald .... That isn't a fault, it's a feature! Have you met Guinan? She has a *preference* for bald men. :) bj > > My list of faults for all to see: > > 3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > :) > bj Bald men are the best. : ) SignatureSuzi A1c 6.4 T2 DX 10/2002 Glucophage 2 x 1000mg Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg 30 minutes walks 7 days a week >> > My list of faults for all to see: >> > 3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >Bald men are the best. : ) Thank you Suzi. The day that I first shaved my head Laurie took a long look at it, asked me to let her feel it and then said, "I really like that! It is so sexy! I hope you leave it that way." That was over twelve years ago and I have never gone more than five days without shaving it since then. She kind of likes it after about three days growth when it is soft and fuzzy. If I don't shave it by the fifth day she will remind me. I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, "Got Bald and Got Balled" That pretty well sums it all up. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 15, 2006 is 2,314. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 17, 2006 It has been 1051 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." > >> > My list of faults for all to see: > >> > 3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > "Got Bald and Got Balled" > That pretty well sums it all up. My husband is bald and I would not change it either. SignatureSuzi A1c 6.4 T2 DX 10/2002 Glucophage 2 x 1000mg Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg 30 minutes walks 7 days a week >>>>My list of faults for all to see: >>>>3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > "Got Bald and Got Balled" > That pretty well sums it all up. I bought hubby a t-shirt that said "God only made a few perfect heads - on the rest he put hair" He wore it until it fell apart. Vicki >>>>>My list of faults for all to see: >>>>>3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Vicki I have a T-shirt that says, "Who needs hair with a body like this?" SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 15, 2006 is 2,314. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 17, 2006 It has been 1051 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." >Thank you Suzi. >The day that I first shaved my head Laurie took a long look at it, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >"Got Bald and Got Balled" >That pretty well sums it all up. Some of us don't need to shave the top... Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, > "Got Bald and Got Balled" Saw one today great big letters: P E T A pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print was "People Eating Tasty Animals" SignatureWes Groleau ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ A UNIX signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent ^ ^ of a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets ^ ^ surrounding a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like ^ ^ Heinlein or Dr. Who. ^ ^ -- Chris Maeda ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My recent fave: "Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?" Jennifer >> I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, "Got Bald >> and Got Balled" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print > was "People Eating Tasty Animals" My fav was "Yes it is my truck, No I will not help you move" SignatureSuzi A1c 6.4 T2 DX 10/2002 Glucophage 2 x 1000mg Lipitor 20mg (3 days a week), Enalapril 20mg 30 minutes walks 7 days a week > My recent fave: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print > > was "People Eating Tasty Animals" That's funny. Hadn't seen that before. :-) -- Cheri Mopar Girl <987654@321.com> wrote in message ... >My fav was > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print >> > was "People Eating Tasty Animals" >> I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, >> "Got Bald and Got Balled" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print >was "People Eating Tasty Animals" For a number of years I had a Honda Passport. Those are just one step above a moped. It was my to and from work vehicle except for winter, so I had a milk crate on the back to carry my lunch pale, etc. I had a bumper sticker made up and put it on the back. It said, "When I grow up I want to be a Harley-Davidson." In time most of the members of the local motorcycle club, aka The Chosen Few, recognized me just from the bumper sticker. They would honk and wave whenever they passed me on the street. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 16, 2006 is 2,317. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 18, 2006 It has been 1052 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." > >> I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, > >> "Got Bald and Got Balled" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print > >was "People Eating Tasty Animals" [snipped] Saw this one once: "I brake for animals, kill them, eat the meat and wear the skin." Newby On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:32:08 GMT, Wes Groleau <groleau+news@freeshell.org> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >> I have thought about having a bumper sticker made saying, >> "Got Bald and Got Balled" [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >pulled up behind 'em at the light--the fine print >was "People Eating Tasty Animals" The irony is, that bumper sticker is actually true. PETA execs are NOT vegan or vegetarian. You will see them all around Hampton roads eating meat in restaurants. They are the biggest hypocrites next to TV Evangelists and chung. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>My list of faults for all to see: >>3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > :) > bj She's not the only one ;-). Ever notice that Guinan has no eyebrows? Vicki >> My list of faults for all to see: >> 3. Bald .... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >:) >bj First god made man, and he was beautiful. Then she added hair. I wear my cap in my gallery photo so that the reflected glare from the top of my head didn't blank out the picture:-) Incidentally, I take two meds, Sally. See sig. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg lipitor20mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Hi Unc: > Hey. I'm P.O.'d. I didn't get mentioned! > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > 5. Takes 4 meds plus insulin > 6. Hates meetings Agreed! ;) Frank Uncle, should I be upset too. Loretta You said you weigh 154 lbs, is that by choice? -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. Usually I dont get involved with squabbles. I was so upset at the fingerpointing as to who the original poster is, I went to the accused and asked point blank if she were responsible. The response was absolutely NOT. She no longer gets this group. I absolute DO believe her as we have a long and close personal relationship. No one named names, but it was obvious as to who the finger was pointed at. I take exception to that. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Usually I dont get involved with squabbles. I was so upset at the > fingerpointing as to who the original poster is, I went to the accused [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I take exception to that. Loretta, more than one person was hinted at; at least three were, by my count. But you're right that speculating publicly about who it might be just gives the whole thing more attention than it deserves and leads to some inaccurate finger pointing. Susan > Usually I dont get involved with squabbles. I was so upset at the > fingerpointing as to who the original poster is, I went to the accused [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I take exception to that. Loretta, I am sorry you thought it was someone else. It was obvious to me it was Sally right from the start, just by the words used and the people it was aimed at. Checking and comparing headers confirmed it. >Usually I dont get involved with squabbles. I was so upset at the >fingerpointing as to who the original poster is, I went to the accused [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Loretta I'm with you Loretta. I didn't think it was our longtime friend either. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 15, 2006 is 2,314. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 17, 2006 It has been 1051 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." > Usually I dont get involved with squabbles. I was so upset at the > fingerpointing as to who the original poster is, I went to the accused > and asked point blank if she were responsible. Loretta, You might ask your long time friend if she's the source of the anonymous emails threatening legal action if my diabetes web site isn't removed and accusing me of giving advice on my site that is causing people to go blind. If she isn't, then my apology will be real, but I have to add that if she isn't the source, someone went to great lengths to make it appear that she _was_ the source. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control Hi Loretta, 154 pounds is my natural weight without the influence of fast carbs that kept me addicted to more fast carbs. I'm glad to be off that treadmill. "Fast carbs--the tastiest treats on planet Earth--not counting Heroin, LSD and Maui Wowee." Do you suppose there are dead people walking around in the after-life vainly wishing they could eat a big platter of fries with Heinz ketchup? Maybe they'd be happy to trade their ability to visit distant stars for one big bag of Ruffles potato chips. :) I'm probably a little chubbier than Mohandas was > Uncle, should I be upset too. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. > My list of faults for all to see: > 1. Social hermit in the real world [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 5. Takes 4 meds plus insulin > 6. Hates meetings Who let my other personality (the one that takes insulin) have access to a computer? SignatureWes Groleau If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow ennobled and none dare criticize it. IMTruth wrote : >> Why is it that the most vocal members of this group are sick and not >> in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? As a relative newbie I think I can put down some thoughts as to usefulness of this and similar groups in light of the objections you have raised. I am particularly motivated by what Guy has said. Over a period of time I have developed tremendous respect for folks like him. It is his ability to share with us his personal tragedies has given folks like me the ability to walk straight! Guy you are the light house for folks like me making us aware of massive bumps on the road. You sacrificed a leg to become the beacon for us. Please accept my gratitude. IMTruth, every one on your list and many others who did not have the honor to make that list, have in some shape or form shared their personal issues, weaknesses and some areas of pride. Together they have given newbies like me a valuable insights, and a flash light to carry on my own search for better life or what is left of it. Without people being able to bare most of their vital stats, their sharing with us the inability to stay disciplined, their personal tragedies within their family, financial burden faced by them due to all the complications, newbies will not know what they can do better, what they need to watch out for, and in some case just be ready for it! I agree that newbies are not given a succinct, uncomplicated, to the point advice even though that is what newbies are looking for initially until they get the hang of complexity. But that is part of the lesson too. It simply isn't that simple. Unless you start your search with dead seriousness you will not even get a hint of an answer. Its isn't easy to stand naked here and let the world see your struggle with your personal dilemmas and weaknesses. And I am quite aware that some may exhibit a bit of exhibitionist tendencies. But you know what, that's ok too. Because there are occasions when we all we need a shoulder. The weight of the bag full of dirty tricks diabetes has in store for us can become overwhelming every so often. Do not take that as a sign of weakness in that person. It simply means that humans are social animals who are healthiest when they feel supported by society. As Guy said it so nicely, compare to old days now the world has opened up and one can get support and courage from all kinds of unexpected corners of the world. It also given us new confidence that we as a society still trust vast number of fellow humans simply because they are humans. I too get discouraged by mud fights and petty words being tossed around here. But I have also come to realize that it is part of our trying to get over our own frustration. We all strongly desire to stay afloat as long as we can. We do get this feeling that the ship is taking in some water. But we can not sit back and take a fatalistic attitude. So when we feel some one is slacking off we get this overwhelming urge to shake that person to say, buddy get going with your work here. May be some times trying harder to do some thing itself will result in bigger leaks. But you know what? Unless I know that, that is what happened to someone else I would not know how to plug-in my leaks. So while I understand your frustration with your own limitations to keep the ship afloat, I would at the very least requet you to help others try their best. May be you too can learn some thing from their efforts, both successes and more important failures! Happy pumping! Anil > IMTruth wrote : > >> Why is it that the most vocal members of this group are sick and not [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Anil Just wanted to say bravo and well said, Anil. Your post made my day. Best, Kurt :: IMTruth wrote : :::: Why is it that the most vocal members of this group are sick and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :: usefulness of this and similar groups in light of the objections you :: have raised. [snip] :: So while I understand your frustration with your own limitations to :: keep the ship afloat, I would at the very least requet you to help [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] :: :: Anil Nice post. Thanks for the encouraging words Kurt and Roger. Sorry I took time to respond. It is sad though that so many decided to worry so much about who did it. Anil >Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick I snipped the rest of the trolling garbage out so I wouldn't feed the bastard's ego anymore. To the coward who is too chicken sh.t to post under their real name I have a question or two: Why the hell do you care? What gives you the right to judge anyone else? For the rest of my fun loving diabetic family: Let us just ignore this scumbag troll and move on to more productive things. Remember, God loves us all unconditionally. She must have a pretty difficult time of it with some people like to originator of this thread. ;-) SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 15, 2006 is 2,314. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 17, 2006 It has been 1051 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." So can you tell us a bit about yourself? >Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not >in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >That's the Truth I think they already did. ;-) -- Cheri George Elting wrote in message <2h6m121iafl5sniii13jqjgsm27t46v044@4ax.com>... >So can you tell us a bit about yourself? > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >>That's the Truth >So can you tell us a bit about yourself? George, did you have to repost their entire rant? Try snipping such garbage when responding. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 15, 2006 is 2,314. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 17, 2006 It has been 1051 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." and you are officially listed a troll. but you knew that, as that was the intention of your post. We speak from personal experience, hind sight is always 20 / 20. You speak from trollism. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . OrgName: Sprint OrgID: SPRN Address: 12502 Sunrise Valley Drive City: Reston StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20196 Country: US NetRange: 63.160.0.0 - 63.175.255.255 CIDR: 63.160.0.0/12 NetName: SPRN-BLKS NetHandle: NET-63-160-0-0-1 Parent: NET-63-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.NET NameServer: NS2-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.NET NameServer: NS3-AUTH.SPRINTLINK.NET Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 1999-12-03 Updated: 2000-09-19 RTechHandle: SPRINT-NOC-ARIN RTechName: Sprintlink (Sprint) RTechPhone: +1-800-232-6895 RTechEmail: NOC@sprint.net OrgTechHandle: ARINS-ARIN OrgTechName: arin-sprint-iprequest OrgTechPhone: +1-800-232-3458 OrgTechEmail: ip-req@sprint.net In case you forgot this is a diabetic group and hence that makes us all sick people. I dont understand your point. I give advice based on personal experiences as most do in this group. Then of course there are those with the real knowledge and base their advice on facts. Of course, no ones advice supersedes the adfice of a doctor. You are just trying to muddy the waters. You werent here before, why are you here now? Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick Almost all of us are sick. That said, our illness isn't mentally related so you are a unique member of the group. > Jennifer's advice is given out like candy yet she is grossly > overweight. You could use a little brain mass yourself. She has plenty and might loan you some... > Alan S. is on all kinds of meds. Did you take your little pink pill today? I think not. You need your meds, don't be hiding them under your tongue. > Mack has all kinds of problems with his health. None of them are mental, again, you are unique with that problem. > Susan is a cripple. You are a mental cripple, they don't make an appliance for you. > Jenny seems to have every disorder known to manking. She lacks your mental adaptations. > Julie Bove is the same, is she and Jenny both just hypochondriacs who > are hooked on medical information? Hey, they have even proven to you their ability to read.... now you are just jealous of that, aren't ya? > Ozgirl can't go one post without talking about her family.... I guess that the guys huddled around the trash can fire in the alley don't make for great conversation and that is why you don't share.... we understand that. > New people coming here take note of this. Before you accept advice > from strangers spend a little time and do your research on who is > giving it to you. Do you want to be like them? That would be your advice, right? stranger? No, no one wants to be like you. No one likes you. You should contemplate suicide, it will work for your problem. Maybe, someday, you will grow enough hair on your nutz to cure yourself... I hope that day comes sooner rather than later. -Sax > That would be your advice, right? stranger? No, no one wants to be like > you. No one likes you. You should contemplate suicide, it will work for > your problem. This post is more evil and meanspirited than the post it responded to. Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Susan Actually responses like the one from Saxology are exactly what the originator of the thread was hoping to get in order feed his/her sick ego. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Mar. 16, 2006 is 2,317. Americans wounded = 16,653 as of 02/07/2006 United Kingdom = 103 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths are probably in excess of 100,000. Today, March 18, 2006 It has been 1052 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq." > That would be your advice, right? stranger? No, no one wants to be like > you. No one likes you. You should contemplate suicide, it will work for > your problem. Even for this newsgroup, your comments are astoundingly disgusting. Dave >Why is it that the most vocal members of this grooup are sick and not >in very good shape yet they are giving out the most advice to everyone? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >J Sign me up, everyone... Yes, I am sick... Positively sick, sick, sick... You see, I have diabetes... an incurable malady that afflicts over 20 million people in the U.S. alone... All's I can say is God bless everyone who is committed to this group, because you are all truly wonderful...and I love you all! If some psycho scumbag chooses to demean us for what we are and what we are trying to do, then to Hell with them! May they ever be locked in an embrace with their BOB (battery operated boyfriend, or girlfriend, as the case may be) As far as I am concerned, ASD totally rocks! Will, T2 This post not CC'd by email On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:42:41 -0500, W.M.McKee <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote: >Sign me up, everyone... > >Yes, I am sick... Positively sick, sick, sick... > >You see, I have diabetes... an incurable malady that afflicts over 20 >million people in the U.S. alone... G'day G'day Will, If you are over fifty and have only one chronic illness you are a little bit unusual. Around the year two thousand it became an official statistic that Americans over the age of fifty, IIRC, had an average of TWO chronic conditions. This statistic will no doubt be shared with other Western countries. Put sim |
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