As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have managed
to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also have given up a 3 pack a
day smoking habit. I exercize regularly.
So...what's my problem you ask??? I have no energy. I seem to be
getting weaker rather than stronger. I eat healthy......just not much.
And I watch carbs carefully.
so.......I'm thinking vitamins might be the answer.
Would be interested in your experiences and what vitamins you might
take. I am a 68 yr. old male.
Thank-you
Eddie
Gary Woods - 17 Mar 2006 03:50 GMT
>I have no energy. I seem to be
>getting weaker rather than stronger. I eat healthy......just not much.
> And I watch carbs carefully.
>so.......I'm thinking vitamins might be the answer.
Possibly... but how long has it been since you did all the "improvements?"
Your body needs to get accustomed to living healthily after probably years
of abuse. Does the exercise regimen include weight training? I believe
that's better for energy levels than just aerobic workouts.
(finally, somebody older than me. But not by much.)
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Sarah - 17 Mar 2006 04:43 GMT
> As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have managed
> to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also have given up a 3 pack a
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> Thank-you
> Eddie
You didn't say what you did to loose all that weight and get your DM under
such good control. I suspect you are on a low carb diet, some people cannot
tolerate low carb diets for extended periods without experiencing the
symptoms you describe.
Sarah
Ozgirl - 17 Mar 2006 08:39 GMT
> "Eddie from Ohio" <hardbark@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:1142563072.569753.21000@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have
>> managed to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also
have given up
>> a 3 pack a day smoking habit. I exercize regularly.
>>
>> So...what's my problem you ask??? I have no energy. I seem to be
>> getting weaker rather than stronger. I eat healthy......just not
>> much. And I watch carbs carefully.
>> so.......I'm thinking vitamins might be the answer.
Are you sure you are getting all the nutrients you need?
Calcium comes to mind, ditto iron and magnesium. It would be
wise to have a full blood test panel.
Marengo - 18 Mar 2006 09:45 GMT
|> "Eddie from Ohio" <hardbark@wowway.com> wrote in message
|>
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|Calcium comes to mind, ditto iron and magnesium. It would be
|wise to have a full blood test panel.
That was my thought exactly. I just finished reading an article that
said many Americans don't get enough iron in their diets, and those
who are dieting get even less. "No energy" is a classic symptom of
anemia, getting full blood panel including the ones you mentioned as
well as potassium and phosphorus makes sense.
Jennifer - 17 Mar 2006 04:55 GMT
hey Eddie...
Talk to your doctor.
Just because you're diabetic, doesn't mean that everything is connected
to your diabetes.
This could be something else. It's worth checking out!
Jennifer
> As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have managed
> to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also have given up a 3 pack a
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> Thank-you
> Eddie
W.M.McKee - 17 Mar 2006 09:16 GMT
>hey Eddie...
>
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>> Thank-you
>> Eddie
Yeah, Eddie
I agree with Jennifer and Julie. This could be a lot more than a
vitamin deficiency... I don't want to scare you, but I suspect you
already know that. Make sure you tell your doctor re the low
energy.... I think most of us have taken just about every vitamin and
pill made, but I would hate to recommend anything not knowing more
about what is really going on with you.
Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 18 Mar 2006 18:50 GMT
Eddie, I am sorry, I should have dittoed Jennifers advice.
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Julie Bove - 17 Mar 2006 06:26 GMT
> As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have managed
> to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also have given up a 3 pack a
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> Would be interested in your experiences and what vitamins you might
> take. I am a 68 yr. old male.
Don't just assume that you need vitamins. Tell your Dr. that you are
feeling weaker and have no energy. If you are lacking vitamins or minerals
this can easily be determined by a blood test and/or a visit to the
dietician. Eating "healthy" can have a variety of connotations. I just
heard a woman say she was eating healthy because she ate a lot of rice. I
guess in her mind this was better than eating something with fat in it.

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Alan S - 17 Mar 2006 10:44 GMT
>As a type 2 with good numbers and on no diabetes meds. I have managed
>to lose 56 pounds with an a1c of 5.7. I also have given up a 3 pack a
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>Thank-you
>Eddie
"I eat healthy......just not much"
It may help if you expand on that a little - because it
would appear that something is lacking. However, it's not
necessarily just diet or vitamins; I'd see a doc. There are
many possibilities for fatigue, unfortunately - too many to
start guessing.
See a doc for some specific testing.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Saxology - 18 Mar 2006 02:21 GMT
<snip>
ok...... but what about vitamins? in general? I think it would not be bad
to take some vitamins too. I used to take vitamin C but haven't taken
anything since diagnosis.
My problem with vitamins is that I think they make them out of cod liver
oil. 2 hours after a multi vitamin and I will start belching cod liver oil!
I really don't like that and have never found a multivitamin that suited me.
Any good places to start? no "super pill" needed, just something that helps
ensure that I get my US RDA amounts on most days....
-Sax
Eddie from Ohio - 18 Mar 2006 03:17 GMT
> Any good places to start? no "super pill" needed, just something that helps
> ensure that I get my US RDA amounts on most days....
> -Sax
Thanks to all. Think I will start with a "one a day" vitamin and see
what happens.
Eddie
Jennifer - 18 Mar 2006 18:09 GMT
Eddie...
I still hope you'll talk to your doctor.
Being tired all the time isn't normal. Unless you're a new mom or dad ; )
Vitamins can't hurt, but they may not be what you need.
Jennifer
>>Any good places to start? no "super pill" needed, just something that helps
>>ensure that I get my US RDA amounts on most days....
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>
> Eddie
Alan S - 18 Mar 2006 04:39 GMT
><snip>
>
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>ensure that I get my US RDA amounts on most days....
>-Sax
My attitude on vitamins is fairly simplistic. If possible I
get all I need from my diet - see Quentin's posts for
further support of that logic. If, however, I am lacking in
some area and cannot get it in my diet - then I will add it.
That is why I take B12 and calcium.
Try dietary sources first for the other benefits that come
with that.
But I still think Eddie needs to chat to his doc as well.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Julie Bove - 18 Mar 2006 09:49 GMT
> <snip>
>
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> Any good places to start? no "super pill" needed, just something that helps
> ensure that I get my US RDA amounts on most days....
I was just reading a similar question in an advice column. The Dr. who
responded said there is no way to put all that we need in just one pill.
The need for vitamins is very much an individual thing. For instance, if
you take Metformin, you might need a vitamin B supplement. If you smoke,
you might need extra C. I know I need a B Complex supplement. If I don't
take it then my mouth breaks out with cracks at the corners of my lips. I
also get green on my fingers underneath my rings. If I take the supplement,
this doesn't happen. If I stop taking MSM, my muscles get sore, stiff and
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Loretta Eisenberg - 18 Mar 2006 18:49 GMT
Eddie what did you weigh before you lost the 56 pounds. How long ago did
you quit smoking. I know I felt like crap for at least six months after
I stopped. I was surprised I made it through. I was constantly tired
and lightheaded. I never realized it was called withdrawal.
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