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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Turmeric & salicylate
After reading Quentin's posts about Turmeric's anti-cancer properties, I've been experimenting with eating bits of Turmeric whenever I'm in the kitchen. But for the past day my tinnitus has been whole lot worse to the point where it's been intrusive. I was wondering whether it was just "one of those things" or perhaps caused by a change in the weather (air pressure affects it). It was only when I was heading for the Turmeric just now that the thought struck me that this was one major change I'd made to my intake lately, and had the thought that I had forgotten to check whether Turmeric is high in naturally occurring salicylate. I have found in the past that any food high in salicylate, like some peppers, will ramp up my tinnitus (which was originally caused by a prescription salicylate). It turns out that Turmeric is quite high in naturally occurring salicylate. So if you are sensitive to this chemical, it might not be such a good idea to supplement with it. <sigh> --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control > It turns out that Turmeric is quite high in naturally occurring > salicylate. So if you are sensitive to this chemical, it might not be > such a good idea to supplement with it. <sigh> That depends. I've been taking about 2gms of it daily for the past week or so. I'm definitely salicylate sensitive, and my T has become loud at times. But salicylate triggered tinnitus is transitory and my T is now only a hiss, soft enough that it's not disturbing or intrusive even when it's ramped up. Only you can decide if the temporary loudness is bad enough to offset the potential benefits of turmeric. I know that the tinnitus I got when I first went on high dose doxy was life altering; like a jet plane parked in my ear, but it got softer and went away, the longer I stayed on the doxycycline; my tinnitus is caused by tick borne infection. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > > I know that the tinnitus I got when I first went on high dose doxy was > life altering; like a jet plane parked in my ear, but it got softer and > went away, the longer I stayed on the doxycycline; my tinnitus is caused > by tick borne infection. The tinnitus I got from salicylate was not transitory and has never gone away. However, usually it can be masked with a fan. It sounds like that very high pitched sound some TVs make. When something ramps it up, it is so loud I can hear it driving the car or with my fan turned on high. Not fun. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> I know that the tinnitus I got when I first went on high dose doxy was >> life altering; like a jet plane parked in my ear, but it got softer and >> went away, the longer I stayed on the doxycycline; my tinnitus is caused >> by tick borne infection. > The tinnitus I got from salicylate was not transitory and has never gone > away. However, usually it can be masked with a fan. It sounds like that > very high pitched sound some TVs make. They all make it. I used to be able to hear them all. And computer monitors. And fluorescent lights. And bats. I used to sit on top of roofs at night and listen to the bats making all their different kinds of calls. Now I can't hear any of them. I can't sit in a bar with a gang of young people and understand what they're shouting to each other over the din of the "background" music. That doesn't strike me as a loss, however. I suspect they choose to socialise in places where it's very difficult to talk because they're not much good at talking.  SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in news:47vl8uFhl9a7U1 @individual.net: > I can't sit in a bar with a gang of young people and understand what > they're shouting to each other over the din of the "background" > music. That doesn't strike me as a loss, however. I suspect they > choose to socialise in places where it's very difficult to talk > because they're not much good at talking. <grin> Careful, Chris. That makes you sound like a real geezer. Chak, who agrees completely SignatureI would like at least one political party in this country to be willing to say that sex is fun and an important part of being human. --PZ Myers, http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/ Hi Jenny: > It turns out that Turmeric is quite high in naturally occurring > salicylate. So if you are sensitive to this chemical, it might not be > such a good idea to supplement with it. <sigh> I tried using the Turmeric concentrate and it seems to have a negative reaction for me. Initially I was taking it with ibuprophen during the same day. I quit both for about a week and then resumed Turmeric. I suspect that I now have an ulcer in the upper GI tract. If the symptoms continue I will see the doctor next week. :( Frank > I tried using the Turmeric concentrate and it seems to have a negative > reaction for me. Initially I was taking it with ibuprophen during the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Frank I hope you haven't done damage! The circumen capsules may be missing some of the turmeric constituents that do good. I just buy bulk organic turmeric and clear capsules very cheaply and make a project out of filling them every couple of weeks. Susan Jenny and Susan, As you know Turmeric is used fairly liberally in Indian cooking. I do it myself. When consumed for medical effect, I have seen it used as part of a mixture in a milk drink. A glass of milk is brought to a boiling point, then a teaspoon of turmeric powder is added to it. Also added to the mixture is dry ground ginger powder plus a dash of black paper in powder form. There are few other spices added that I don't recollect now. The resulting mixture is supposed to cure soar throat and upper bronchial infections. My experience with this concoction is mixed. Sometimes I did benefit from it. But as such for some reason I never trusted this as sole method to take care of my soar throat. I did subject myself to this drink just because my Grandma and my mother made me do so as I was growing up. I am not subjected to same any more. My point is, I have never seen anyone directly consuming the powder. Just an observation. I would personally not do it. Regards, Anil This post not CC'd by email On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:24:32 -0500, Jenny <lottadata@hotmail.com> wrote: >After reading Quentin's posts about Turmeric's anti-cancer properties, >I've been experimenting with eating bits of Turmeric whenever I'm in the >kitchen. G'day G'day Jenny, I notice that you say you are eating "bits of turmeric." I'm wondering what that might mean. Turmeric is a rhizome like ginger root. I can't imagine anyone eating bits of turmeric hypsometry but perhaps I lack imagination in such matters. Personally I take turmeric TABLETS. These are 95% curcuminoids ie the active ingredient. This gives me 20x the dose of turmeric powder as used in cooking. There really isn't much room for them to have salicylates to bother you. >But for the past day my tinnitus has been whole lot worse to the point >where it's been intrusive. I was wondering whether it was just "one of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood >Sugar Under Control Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > G'day G'day Jenny, > > I notice that you say you are eating "bits of turmeric." I'm > wondering what that might mean. Turmeric is a rhizome like ginger > root. It is sold here as a finely ground powder. I'd been eating a little bit of the powder from the container several times a day. Among foods, dried Turmeric is second only to hot peppers in the percentage of salicylate in it according to the chart of mg/100 grams I found. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control > It is sold here as a finely ground powder. I'd been eating a little bit > of the powder from the container several times a day. That's how I buy it, too. > Among foods, dried Turmeric is second only to hot peppers in the > percentage of salicylate in it according to the chart of mg/100 grams I > found. I have no trouble believing it, since my tinnitus is rarely noticable except when taking turmeric. Susan > Among foods, dried Turmeric is second only to hot peppers in the > percentage of salicylate in it according to the chart of mg/100 grams I > found. Could you give a link? Frank >> Among foods, dried Turmeric is second only to hot peppers in the >> percentage of salicylate in it according to the chart of mg/100 grams >> I found. > > Could you give a link? Here's the list of salicylates in food. There is some disease (I forget which) where the treatment requires that the person taking the drug avoid salicylates, so there are several sites that give very detailed information about salicylate content. This is the one I found yesterday. http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/Food/Salicylate.html Another site warned of salicylate in things like deodorant and sunscreens and noted that "Aloe gel" is high in it. A few years ago I switched to Almay which is one of the few deodorants that doesn't contain aloe, castor bean oil, or another form of salicylate and it made a distinct improvement in the strength of my T. Unfortunately, finding an effective sunscreen that doesn't contain a salicylate is very difficult. There used to be a couple on the market but they no longer make them and the ones that are available without it now just contain zinc oxide and do nothing for my pale freckly skin. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control This post not CC'd by email On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:39:23 -0500, Jenny <lottadata@hotmail.com> wrote: >> G'day G'day Jenny, >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >--Jenny G'day G'day Jenny, mg/100 grams. Hmm. I could eat a whole bell pepper which might be 100 grams. Perhaps I could eat 100 grams of hot peppers. What I can't see happening is me eating more than say 5 to 10 grams of turmeric powder in a meal. As already mentioned I take turmeric tablets which are standardised to 95% curcuminoids. Let's do the math. Turmeric powder 5% curcuminoids 95% other stuff including salicylate. Turmeric tablets 95% curcuminoids 5% other stuff including salicylate. Concentration of salicylate left in tablets = (5/95) x whatever was originally in powder. Put simply, while turmeric powder is near the top of your list, the tablets will be so near the bottom it is doubtful they would be listed. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > Put simply, while turmeric powder is near the top of your list, the > tablets will be so near the bottom it is doubtful they would be > listed. I'll keep an eye out for the tablets and give them a try. Thanks for the suggestion! --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control |
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