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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Newbie
I was diagnosed with diabetes in January. I had a 509 bg level and a 11.3 a1c and am on glipizide 5mg. I found out because I went to the doctor for pain in my shoulder which turns out to be frozen shoulder that diabetics get more often. I just completed diabetic education classes and am finally getting my blood sugar under control. Where do I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? Shawn > I was diagnosed with diabetes in January. I had a 509 bg level and a > 11.3 a1c and am on glipizide 5mg. I found out because I went to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? > Shawn Pay special attention to the link for "Newly Diagnosed." It's the best guide you'll ever see to getting this disease under your control: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/ Susan Hi Shawn: > I was diagnosed with diabetes in January. I had a 509 bg level and a > 11.3 a1c and am on glipizide 5mg. I found out because I went to the > doctor for pain in my shoulder which turns out to be frozen shoulder > that diabetics get more often. I just completed diabetic education > classes and am finally getting my blood sugar under control. Where do > I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? While this group does not have a FAQ, the misc.health.diabetes newsgroup does - http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/faq/part1/preamble.html http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/ There are pages for newbies however - http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/; http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm Frank >Hi Shawn: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Frank Hi Shawn Welcome Susan and Frank have given you some great advice. Read those links, particularly the "test, test, test" advice (because it works:-) and come back with lots of questions. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg  SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. My late wife was a diabetic, type 2. She had frozen shoulder 2 times in different shoulders. She tried everything including chiropractors. They were cured by cortisone injections into the shoulder both times. >I was diagnosed with diabetes in January. I had a 509 bg level and a > 11.3 a1c and am on glipizide 5mg. I found out because I went to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? > Shawn > My late wife was a diabetic, type 2. She had frozen shoulder 2 times in > different shoulders. She tried everything including chiropractors. They were > cured by cortisone injections into the shoulder both times. My father in law had his manipulated under general anesthetic. All over in a short time. Woke up fine. No months of pain, shots, physio... >> My late wife was a diabetic, type 2. She had frozen > shoulder 2 times in >> different shoulders. She tried everything including > chiropractors. They were >> cured by cortisone injections into the shoulder both > times. > My father in law had his manipulated under general > anesthetic. All over in a short time. Woke up fine. No > months of pain, shots, physio... I had severely frozen shoulders as a result of polymyalgia rheumatica. It was a very painful struggle to brush my hair or put on my socks. After that went away I was left with residual stiffness and pain in one shoulder. Nothing I tried except low dose oral corticosteroids improved it, and they have their own disadvantages, especially for diabetics. Then as part of a program of exercise I started doing pullups. The pain and stiffness started reducing, sometimes going away and coming back, but overall reducing, and in a few months was much improved. Now there is no stiffness or movement loss, and only sometimes slight pain. That too is reducing. The pullups have also had the unexpected effect of improving my posture. I stand and walk taller and have more back flexibility. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] cortizone did nothing for me nor did 10 months of intensive physio therapy :-( SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > My late wife was a diabetic, type 2. She had frozen shoulder 2 times in > different shoulders. She tried everything including chiropractors. They were > cured by cortisone injections into the shoulder both times. > > <newman1579@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:74eg1294fqbtf66lr8m0obk2mebsb5fari@4ax.com... > >I was diagnosed with diabetes in January. I had a 509 bg level and a > > 11.3 a1c and am on glipizide 5mg. I found out because I went to the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? > > Shawn The cortisone was the only thing that helped her. The doctor had his own mix of cortisone and anesthetic that he injected right into the joint. He told her that it might hurt a little when the anesthetic wore off. That was an understatement, three hours later she was in sever pain, had to get a Rx for strong pain killers. She took them for 2 days, after the pain subsided she had full motion to her shoulder again. They told her that if the cortisone didn't work the only thing they could do was to manipulate the shoulder under anesthetic to "break it loose". I don't know what needed to "break loose", but that didn't sound like fun. > cortizone did nothing for me > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > I find the FAQ for this newsgroup? >> > Shawn > cortizone did nothing for me > > nor did 10 months of intensive physio therapy > > :-( How is that shoulder coming along, Kate? Mine is not nearly so sore as it was, and I have much better range of motion than I did just a few months ago.... Still not up to 100%, but much better, all the same. I can now carry that bag of groceries.:-) Will, T2 it's been over a year and the right shoulder is starting to allow me to move my hand behind my back the left shoulder started later, and it's still so sore that i can't place it behind my back, now can i reach up to get a glass from the cupboard c'est la vie......... the ortho Dr told me to stop physio therapy kate > > cortizone did nothing for me > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Will, T2 > it's been over a year and the right shoulder is > starting to allow me to move my hand behind my > back I know what you mean, Kate.... Just please take it easy and baby it a little, if that is what it takes. I would be in real trouble if I ever got arrested and handcuffed..... Even today, I would not be able to put the right hand very far back there.... As I have been able to control the BG, I have found that slowly the shoulder and other inflammations seem to be clearing up slowly. I still have a bit of neuropathy in the right foot, though, and I guess that will always be there as a reminder that, yes, I do have diabetes. Will, T2 the ortho Dr has told me to stretch it to 'just where it hurts' and hold it there for 30 seconds many times thru the day............. his idea being that if it gets stretched back into place it will stop being frozen it's been over a year now........... my patience is wearing thin over all of this kate (i'll survive) > > it's been over a year and the right shoulder is > > starting to allow me to move my hand behind my [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Will, T2 Darn Kate, that sounds just miserable. I hope that stretching it helps in time, but after a year I can see that the patience would be quite thin. Quick question, what happens after you stretch it? Doesn't it hurt more for awhile afterwards, making you not want to do it several times a day? -- Cheri >the ortho Dr has told me to stretch it to 'just >where it hurts' and hold it there for 30 seconds [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >kate (i'll survive) When my wife had her first frozen shoulder, they had her try the stretching. They had me mount a pulley over her head, with a rope. She had to hold one end of the rope in her bad hand and pull it up as far as she could stand with her other hand, then hold it there for a while. She did this several times a day for months, in her case it didn't help. Nothing helped until she got the cortisone injection. > Darn Kate, that sounds just miserable. I hope that stretching it helps > in time, but after a year I can see that the patience would be quite [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >>kate (i'll survive) Sounds like not much fun. Did her arm hurt and ache worse after each stretching? -- Cheri Anon wrote in message ... >When my wife had her first frozen shoulder, they had her try the stretching. >They had me mount a pulley over her head, with a rope. She had to hold one >end of the rope in her bad hand and pull it up as far as she could stand >with her other hand, then hold it there for a while. She did this several >times a day for months, in her case it didn't help. Nothing helped until she >got the cortisone injection. She was told to pull it up in 3 different positions, one with her arm straight out from her side, one behind her back and one with her arm crossed over her breast. She had to pull it up until it hurt as much as she could stand and hold it there, I don't remember how long. After doing the treatment, there was no residual pain that wasn't there before. She did increase the range of motion a little. If you do it, put a handle on the end to easily hang on to with the bad arm. > Sounds like not much fun. Did her arm hurt and ache worse after each > stretching? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > until she >>got the cortisone injection. i do a variation of this......... the towel over the door instead of the pully i've had 2 cortizone injections in the right shoulder and 1 in the left shoulder no help kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > When my wife had her first frozen shoulder, they had her try the stretching. > They had me mount a pulley over her head, with a rope. She had to hold one [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > >>kate (i'll survive) Gee, Kate I had no idea. I hope you get relief soon. It must be a pain in the behind for sure if not in the arm Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. where is newman? -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. it's been 'interesting' Loretta anytime now it can stop hurting and give me full range of motion again!!!! and i will NOT complain it's a matter of time i guess........ the physio was very expensive (not insured) and i paid for it out of pocket............ :-( kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > Gee, Kate I had no idea. I hope you get relief soon. It must be a pain > in the behind for sure if not in the arm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Cheri........... i BARELY go to the edge of where it hurts when i hold it for 30 to 45 seconds does it hurt?? well....... it hurts all the time, so i'm not sure if it hurts more or not this too shall pass kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > Darn Kate, that sounds just miserable. I hope that stretching it helps > in time, but after a year I can see that the patience would be quite [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > >kate (i'll survive) > it's been over a year now........... my patience > is wearing thin over all of this I should think sleeping at night is very difficult. At least that was my experience. Then, just try reaching for anything, or catching anything that is falling before it hits the ground, as you momentarily forget your shoulder, like a glass, or something that might spill.... the pain of sudden movement is excruciating..... You have my sincerest sympathy, Kate.... I do know what it must be like. At least it sounds like one of your shoulders is getting some better. That is a good thing. Will, T2 oh yeah........ a sudden movement in my sleep can wake me up in a nano second.......... and simply laying on the shoulder can be very painful........... but i don't sleep well laying on my back, and i never sleep on my stomach kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > > it's been over a year now........... my patience > > is wearing thin over all of this [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Will, T2 >the ortho Dr has told me to stretch it to 'just >where it hurts' and hold it there for 30 seconds [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >kate (i'll survive) Mine was never fully frozen. It improved noticeably when I resumed swimming last spring. Initially my freestyle stroke was like a side-stroke, but habit leads to eventual full extension during the session. I have almost a full range of motion back after four months of swims, although I still have pain if I try to reach behind my waist or above my head. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Mine was never fully frozen. It improved noticeably when I > resumed swimming last spring. Initially my freestyle stroke [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg Newbie here again, I went to a shoulder specialist who told my wife to "help me" by helping force the shoulder into natural positions. He told us not to worry about damaging the shoulder because it is very flexible. He gave me the pully to do the stretching with. We were told that there are adhesions in the shoulder like being injected with super glue. I have to break loose the adhesions to regain full use. So far it is working great. In 3 weeks I have gained back my ability to get my wallet out of my back pocket and reach over my head. It has been an extemely painful 3 weeks but I am happy with the results. Shawn T2 Texas Glipizide >> Mine was never fully frozen. It improved noticeably when I >> resumed swimming last spring. Initially my freestyle stroke [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >T2 Texas >Glipizide Hi Shawn When mine was a bit worse than now, I spent a few months learning from the people in a Yahoo group for Frozen Shoulder. You may find it helpful: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frozen_Shoulder_Sufferers/ I recommend, from my own experience, relaxed freestyle swimming if you have access to a pool. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. my range is ONLY limited on reaching UP or reaching behind my back sounds like you had MORE frozen shoulder than i have had however, this is going on for over a year now.......... sigh kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > >the ortho Dr has told me to stretch it to 'just > >where it hurts' and hold it there for 30 seconds [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg >my range is ONLY limited on reaching UP or >reaching behind my back [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >however, this is going on for over a year >now.......... sigh I got nailed with it in my right shoulder in 10/04 and in the left shoulder in 4/05. The right shoulder is almost back to normal and the left is recovering without my doing anything for it. Last October, the biceps on the left and right arm would burn like a bitch. It was almost impossible to put the seat belt on in the car, had to have help doing it. Closing the drivers car door was almost impossible. Still have some difficulty with behind the back with the left arm. Not much fun. oh.... the seat belt............ and my left arm is the one that is sorest of the two! yeah....... reaching the seat belt is an interesting contortion exercise kate SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > >my range is ONLY limited on reaching UP or > >reaching behind my back [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > have some difficulty with behind the back with the left arm. Not much > fun. Shawn as i am sure everyone has told you, it is alt-support-diabetes.org Welcome to our group. Sorry you have to be here but at least you found the best place for information and advice . It seems those of us in this group do better than the average diabetic so please hang around and ask any and all questions you may have. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. |
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