Hi Kurt, thanks for posting this.  What is your understanding of this:

"not acceptable from a political correct point of view."  ?

Amy

and you want to trust this crap?

I hope you enjoyed wasting your time, but I commend you for being willing to
do it.

Thanks for trying.

The prose and style (and honesty) indicate someone fairly
low on the totem pole.

I am a member of the ADA forum, and post there irregularly.
As far as I can tell, no ADA staff apart from the moderator
ever read the type 2 section. Possibly he could drop in and
disabuse me of that idea. It is a forum much like ours, but
being moderated is more civil and polite. There are just as
many silly ideas on various aspects of diabetes as we get,
the difference is that they tend to continue without
correction, unlike this forum. The moderator and I will
probably disagree on the definition of "silly". I stop for a
while when I get too frustrated, so I'm on a sabbatical from
it at the moment.

Are you able to get some email addresses - or snailmail if
necessary - of people at the decision making and policy
level?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 2x500mg

Kurt, thank you so much for doing this. I've been following that
thread with great interest, though I have not added anything to is as
others have said it better than I could have.

Another response...

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Hi Kurt,

Thank you so much for forwarding this info to us.  I will pass this on
to our online services group for review.  Looks like you started a
great conversation thread there and I'm hoping to print this out and
take home to see what the general public is thinking.

Once again, thank you for your support in working to help educate folks
about the positive aspects of what the ADA does.

Take care,

Jimmy Rhodes

To all:

Thought you'd be interested in the Forum Moderator's comments on the
ADA message board:

http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=9610&webta
g=adatype2

"We have even been following a discussion on a.s.d regarding our site,
diabetes.org, and taking it very seriously."

-Tina

"there you will find many of the frank opinions that were expressed by
your group but in fact  are not acceptable from a political correct
point of view. "

What the person from the ADA was trying to say here, rather clumsily,
is that there is no censorship on their board of opinions about
diabetes. He means that there is the same range of opinions as on ASD,
even when they are not consistent with what the ADA itself might
recommend.  The frequent posters there  pretty much all accept the idea
of eating to the meter, which is usually called test, test, test here,
although somethere  say test at 1 hour, and others say test at 2.
There are Bernstein advocates, and lo-carbers of all stripes, and
strong proponent of diet and exercise as the first line of defense
against diabetes. Gretchen Becker's books are recommended far more
often than anything the ADA has published. The biggest difference in
viewpoints beteween the 2 boards is that a lot more people who have
just been told they have diabetes and sent off into the world with no
instruction or real advice from their doctors tend to end up there
first when they start looking on the net for information.

The censorship that does exist on that board relates to a couple of
things--you can't say the words f.ck or sh.t there, and you can't get
too far off tangent into a political debate having nothing to do with
diabertes and everything to do with hillary haters and bush bashing,
before the moderator willshut it down.  And the kind of name-calling
that sometimes can go on interminably here is not tolerated there for
very long. Their purpose is to address diabetes issues and they try to
keep the focus there., even if benign side tracks can sometimes go on
for a while.

I post a lot on that board, and occasionaly on this one.  I understand
Alan. S's frustration with that board because there are a lot of new
people posting and they haven't always figured everything out yet.  And
to some extent they have a different viewpoint than Alan does--they
start out with whatever viewpoint they have first been exposed to upon
diagnosis.  I don't always agree with Alan, although usually we're in
the same chapter if not on exactly the same page.  But just as   he
finds that board "silly", I find this one rather silly often enough
that I spend my time there a lot more than here.

I hope the above does not make me a "shill" for the ADA...

Morris