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Metformin and CT Scans

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Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 02:46 GMT
Hi All

I started metformin since my previous CT Scan so I was a bit
surprised when I received a warning from the nurse just
before and again after the scan to get an extra blood test
and to take no more metformin until after the doc had
reviewed that test.

For anyone who may be interested, this is part of the
printout she gave me:

"After discussion with your GP, our radiologist has
instructed us that you should stop taking Metformin for the
next 72 hours.

Metformin is a medication for the treatment of diabetes and
very rarely can cause kidney problems after a patient has an
injection of x-ray contrast. To minimise the risk you have
been instructed to :

o Stop taking metformin for 72 hours following your
radiology examination.

o Drink plenty of water during the next 2 days.

o Have your blood test in 2 days time; the result will be
sent to your GP.

o Contact your GP if you become unwell or have any problems
post examination."

I've just found that the renal function test came out OK and
I'm back on the metformin.  However, I'll have a chat to the
doc before the next CT scan; maybe I should be stopping the
met a day or two before the scan.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Gary Pewitt - 13 Mar 2006 03:51 GMT
I too am on Metformin and just had a CT scan.  They had me stop the
Metformin for 48 hours after the scan.  They said there was no need to
stop it before the scan.  It's not really the scan that's the problem,
it's the stuff they give you to drink or the 100 cc of stuff they
inject in your arm.  They asked if I was allergic to shell fish before
giving it to me so I think of it as Lobster sauce.
73  Gary


>Hi All
>
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>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Priscilla Ballou - 13 Mar 2006 04:03 GMT
> I too am on Metformin and just had a CT scan.  They had me stop the
> Metformin for 48 hours after the scan.  They said there was no need to
> stop it before the scan.  It's not really the scan that's the problem,
> it's the stuff they give you to drink or the 100 cc of stuff they
> inject in your arm.  They asked if I was allergic to shell fish before
> giving it to me so I think of it as Lobster sauce.

I'm not allergic to shellfish, but I am allergic to the contrast dye
they use in CT scans.

Good thing seafood didn't get included in that one!

Priscilla, loves her shrimp, scallops, mussels, lobster...
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 05:15 GMT
>> I too am on Metformin and just had a CT scan.  They had me stop the
>> Metformin for 48 hours after the scan.  They said there was no need to
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>
>Priscilla, loves her shrimp, scallops, mussels, lobster...

I hate that odd, fuzzy, warm feeling as you hear the machine
pumping it in. They reassured me that they used the same
dose as last time, but I seemed to get a much stronger
reaction. Puts a whole new, unpleasant, meaning on "warm
fuzzies".

Anyway - done now; hopefully no more for a couple of years.

And I also love all those seafoods and a few more...you need
to drop in to find out what a Moreton Bay (or Balmain) Bug
is.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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jacquie - 13 Mar 2006 23:18 GMT
>>> I too am on Metformin and just had a CT scan.  They had me stop the
>>> Metformin for 48 hours after the scan.  They said there was no need to
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>have been known to even have orgasims with this stuff. It also felt warm
>near my thyroid.
jacquie

> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Alan S - 14 Mar 2006 03:02 GMT
>>When I had my first test with the stuff in the IV...I got a real extra warm
>>feeling in the genital area. I asked my Dr about it later and he people
>>have been known to even have orgasims with this stuff. It also felt warm
>>near my thyroid.
>jacquie

I wish I'd had as much fun as you did:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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jacquie - 15 Mar 2006 00:34 GMT
LOL Alan...I didn't have an orgasm...I was laying there hoping it wouldn't
get to much warmer..LOL.:)
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:18:27 GMT, "jacquie"
<happikat694@nospam.net> wrote:

>>When I had my first test with the stuff in the IV...I got a real extra
>>warm
>>feeling in the genital area. I asked my Dr about it later and he people
>>have been known to even have orgasims with this stuff. It also felt warm
>>near my thyroid.
>jacquie

I wish I'd had as much fun as you did:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 15 Mar 2006 01:07 GMT
> LOL Alan...I didn't have an orgasm...I was laying there hoping it wouldn't
> get to much warmer..LOL.:)

I just wonder how the doctors know people have had orgasms -
do the patients do a Harry met Sally type "noise".
Trinity - 14 Mar 2006 00:13 GMT
>>I too am on Metformin and just had a CT scan.  They had me stop the
>>Metformin for 48 hours after the scan.  They said there was no need to
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>
> Priscilla, loves her shrimp, scallops, mussels, lobster...
What about crab?????????
Gotta have crab!!!!
;)
Trinity

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oldal4865 - 13 Mar 2006 13:42 GMT
Alan S wrote in message ...
>Hi All
>
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>o Stop taking metformin for 72 hours following your
>radiology examination.

. . .(snip), , ,  However, I'll have a chat to the
>doc before the next CT scan; maybe I should be stopping the
>met a day or two before the scan.
>
>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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    Both metformin and the x-ray contrast are removed from the body by the
kidneys.   The x-ray contrast will interfere with metformin removal and thus
any metformin in your blood while the contrast is still present won't be
efficiently removed.    It will start to build up concentration if resumed
before the contrast all leaves.    That's a recipe for double and perhaps
even triple dosing.

Regards
 Old Al
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 23:11 GMT
>     Both metformin and the x-ray contrast are removed from the body by the
>kidneys.   The x-ray contrast will interfere with metformin removal and thus
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Regards
>  Old Al

Thanks Al

The doc has since given the all clear after seeing the renal
test results.

Started back on 2x500mg yesterday, no noticeable
ill-effects.

Your comment in another thread on the gradual rise and decay
of metformin's effect interested me. I took my last
metformin on Thursday night. On Sunday night my evening
meal, which normally had little effect on my BGs even before
starting the metformin, spiked me 1hr PP to 8.3(150). I was
expecting to be under 7(126) from past experience.

I found that I had unpredictable erratic results all
weekend, although that was the worst. Similarly, my evening
cereal, which has rarely caused spikes despite being my
highest-carb meal, had a long delayed spike peaking at 8.2
three hours after eating (I was up until three am watching a
cricket game in South Africa). The delay is odd, because the
cereal is <5% fat and I had less than half a cup of milk
with it.

It seems that removal of the metformin has some negative
effects almost immediately. Hopefully, back to normal
quickly now.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 13 Mar 2006 18:51 GMT
Hey Alan, I meant to ask on Saturday, how did your results go?
Everything is going well I hope, or do you have your results back yet?

--
Cheri

Alan S wrote in message ...
>Hi All
>
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>and to take no more metformin until after the doc had
>reviewed that test.
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 23:22 GMT
>Hey Alan, I meant to ask on Saturday, how did your results go?
>Everything is going well I hope, or do you have your results back yet?

Thanks for asking Cheri

I won't know for sure until the haemo sees the CT-scan
pictures. A1c is steady - which is disappointing, I was
hoping that the metformin would put me back under 6, so I'm
going to have to stop being lazy and get more serious about
the exercise. Darn! As someone else noted, easy to give good
advice, harder to keep always doing it (back in the pool for
a longer swim yesterday:-)

I think part of the problem there is that I got a little
relaxed about portion control as I knew I was taking the
med. Lipids, etc, are all continuing OK as before.

However, I'm not dreading seeing the haemo - the white blood
count is terrific at 8.7 (diagnosis level is over 10) and
the neutrophils are only just above the max range.
Everything else looks good except for the IgA, IgM and IgG
which apparently will never be much better. But I'm not
catching anything at the moment (touch wood) so I'll stay
unconcerned about those.

So - it's looking good :-))

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Jenny - 14 Mar 2006 02:00 GMT
> However, I'm not dreading seeing the haemo - the white blood
> count is terrific at 8.7 (diagnosis level is over 10) and
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> catching anything at the moment (touch wood) so I'll stay
> unconcerned about those.

Alan,

I'm so glad to hear that your blood count results are heartening!

You seem to be getting about the same amount of boost from metformin as
I do, based on your post about what happened when you stopped it for a
day. Though it chopped 20 mg/dl off my post-prandials, lowered my
triglycerides nicely, and stopped weight gain cold, it never did a thing
for my A1c either.

I'm not entirely sold on the concept of A1c as a true reflection of long
term control because I've managed to get some ugly results after only a
day or two of high readings, which followed months of extremely good
readings. That's happened twice now. Once after only one day of drug
induced highs.

OTOH, that might just mean that for me it doesn't take much for things
to start glycosylating and since A1c does seem to correspond to Bad
Things Happening in the heart, I would like to keep mine down.

As luck would have it, I'm having my next A1c test tomorrow morning
(Which is why I'm sitting here typing because I have to do the 12 hour
fast for the cholesterol test, and naturally I'm starving to death just
from knowing I can't eat anything until after 7:30 tomorrow morning. <G>)

--Jenny

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Alan S - 14 Mar 2006 04:56 GMT
>As luck would have it, I'm having my next A1c test tomorrow morning
>(Which is why I'm sitting here typing because I have to do the 12 hour
>fast for the cholesterol test, and naturally I'm starving to death just
>from knowing I can't eat anything until after 7:30 tomorrow morning. <G>)

Good luck - and I can definitely relate to the fast. I had
nothing after 9pm for a 9am A1c, lipids, CBC etc - but then
I had to have the pre CT-scan fluid and the scan; I finally
had the biggest brunch I've had for a long time at 1 pm:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Cheri - 14 Mar 2006 02:18 GMT
It's funny how that happens Alan. The same with me, once I went back on
the meds, I ate bigger portions, and excercised less. I'm getting the
portions under control, and forcing myself to walk a lot more, but it's
easy to slack off if we're not careful. I'm very glad to hear that
things are looking good in other areas. Take care.

--
Cheri

Alan S wrote in message ...
>I think part of the problem there is that I got a little
>relaxed about portion control as I knew I was taking the
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Alan S - 14 Mar 2006 04:56 GMT
>It's funny how that happens Alan. The same with me, once I went back on
>the meds, I ate bigger portions, and excercised less. I'm getting the
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>--
>Cheri

Thx Cheri:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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ORIGINALDIGGER@webtv.net - 14 Mar 2006 08:21 GMT
Hi Alan...

Your writing show me a very lucid aussie!

Sincerely

Freddy

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Chris J. - 14 Mar 2006 08:10 GMT
>>Hey Alan, I meant to ask on Saturday, how did your results go?
>>Everything is going well I hope, or do you have your results back yet?
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>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Wonderful, Alan!!! That is good news!

As for the exercise, you do need to keep motivated, and that isn't
easy.

So, in the interest of trans-pacific camaraderie, I offer you an
option: you can either exercise, or start eating my veg, tofu, flax
seed, mustard and tabasco breakfast instead. :-)
Alan S - 14 Mar 2006 08:32 GMT
>>>Hey Alan, I meant to ask on Saturday, how did your results go?
>>>Everything is going well I hope, or do you have your results back yet?
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>option: you can either exercise, or start eating my veg, tofu, flax
>seed, mustard and tabasco breakfast instead. :-)

Um, no. Thanks.

I'll take Larry's advice, but not necessarily religiously.
20 miles a week? 90 flights of stairs? Gawd.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 14 Mar 2006 10:07 GMT
"Alan S" <loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au> wrote in

> >So, in the interest of trans-pacific camaraderie, I offer you an
> >option: you can either exercise, or start eating my veg, tofu, flax
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> I'll take Larry's advice, but not necessarily religiously.
> 20 miles a week? 90 flights of stairs? Gawd.

Psst, it's gotta be better than tofu!
Alan S - 14 Mar 2006 10:09 GMT
>"Alan S" <loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
>
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>
>Psst, it's gotta be better than tofu!

I think, in a pinch, I could handle tofu. Hell, I've even
learned to like broccoli.

But mustard and tabasco (my mustard of preference is Hot
English) - at breakfast? Spare me. I wouldn't be able to
taste anything for the rest of the day.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Chris J. - 15 Mar 2006 09:25 GMT
>>"Alan S" <loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au> wrote in
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>English) - at breakfast? Spare me. I wouldn't be able to
>taste anything for the rest of the day.

I usually use hot english (colemans) on most things, but for this I'd
find it too hot, given the quantity. So I use Dijon, and sometimes the
whole seed course mustard.  

BTW, Alan, you could always change the Tobasco sauce from 1 tablespoon
to one cup. That would probably solve your exercise problem for the
day. :-)

Here is the breakfast recipe, for anyone interested. It's also a good
lunch.

3 oz frozen chopped spinach
6 oz frozen mixed low-carb vegetables
3 oz extra-firm tofu  
4 heaped tablespoons ground golden flax
1 tablespoon walnut or extra virgin olive oil
3 tablespoons dijon mustard
1 tablespoon tobasco sauce  
black pepper and tumeric to taste. Herbs can be used for variety too.

Microwave the frozen veg in a glass soup bowl. Don't drain. I vary the
veg for variety, and often add multi-colored peppers. I do make sure
there is plenty of broccoli in the mix.

Once cooked, add the tofu (I prefer extra firm, and I crumble it, not
cube it) and heat a bit more to warm the tofu. Then, add the flax, and
stir. Then add the oil, and stir again, and finally add the mustard,
black pepper, and tumeric (and any herbs) and stir again. Then drizzle
the tobasco on top and it's ready.
Ozgirl - 15 Mar 2006 10:38 GMT
"Chris J." <chris@noadress.com> wrote in message >

Once cooked, add the tofu (I prefer extra firm, and I
crumble it, not
> cube it) and heat a bit more to warm the tofu. Then, add the flax, and
> stir. Then add the oil, and stir again, and finally add the mustard,
> black pepper, and tumeric (and any herbs) and stir again. Then drizzle
> the tobasco on top and it's ready.

I must say, that looks totally unappetising ;)
Chris J. - 15 Mar 2006 20:54 GMT
>"Chris J." <chris@noadress.com> wrote in message >
>
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>
> I must say, that looks totally unappetising ;)

Sniff.. Sniff.. nobody likes my breakfast... :-)

Actually, had I seen it as a recipe, I probably wouldn't have tried it
either.

However, I stumbled into it while trying to put together a breakfast
that I could eat, and found out that I liked it.

Admittedly, I have odd tastes so this might not be to everyone's
taste, but I do actually like it. Try it, it might surprise you too..
:-)  
Alan S - 15 Mar 2006 21:55 GMT
>>"Chris J." <chris@noadress.com> wrote in message >
>>
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>taste, but I do actually like it. Try it, it might surprise you too..
>:-)  

I try to vary each morning a little. Sure, there's usually
an egg in some form - but I vary through simple fried,
boiled, poached, to scrambled, omelettes with various
fillings, frittatas etc and some days something completely
different - casseroles etc. I couldn't have the same thing
daily - I'd go nuts.

This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Chris J. - 16 Mar 2006 04:30 GMT
>>Sniff.. Sniff.. nobody likes my breakfast... :-)
>>
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>>taste, but I do actually like it. Try it, it might surprise you too..
>>:-)  

>I try to vary each morning a little. Sure, there's usually
>an egg in some form - but I vary through simple fried,
>boiled, poached, to scrambled, omelettes with various
>fillings, frittatas etc and some days something completely
>different - casseroles etc. I couldn't have the same thing
>daily - I'd go nuts.

I'd definitely have trouble if I tried having the same thing every
day, too! That's why the veg types get changed around almost every
time. I also only have it three to four days a week. Sometimes I have
low-carb cereal, and once a week an Omelette or similar.

Unfortunately, cooking in the morning is not much of an option for me:
I'm not a morning person, and I couldn't cope with anything more
complex than tossing a bowl into the microwave.

>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
>with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.

That's probably as appetizing to me as my breakfast is to you. :-)
Alan S - 17 Mar 2006 09:58 GMT
>>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
>>with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.
>
>That's probably as appetizing to me as my breakfast is to you. :-)

Yeah - sorry about that:-)
You just want to throw a bowl in the microwave?

Try lightly whipping one egg with an equal volume of milk
for a few seconds, throw a bit of parsley in, and zap in the
microwave on high for one minute. Stir; if not done enough,
give it another 15-30 seconds.

Instant scrambled egg.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 17 Mar 2006 10:15 GMT
> >>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
> >>with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.
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>
> Instant scrambled egg.

Wow that's a lot of milk for one egg. I always add milk to
scrambled eggs as I feel they are softer and fluffier but
never that much. I suppose about a dessertspoon per egg. I
love parsley in scramble, haven't had it like that for
years, not sure why though ;)
Alan S - 17 Mar 2006 13:14 GMT
>> >>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive
>oil)
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>love parsley in scramble, haven't had it like that for
>years, not sure why though ;)

All my measurements are rough and eyeball there:-)

I may have over-guesstimated. More accurately it was a
splash, which is significantly more than a smidgin, but less
than too much.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ozgirl - 17 Mar 2006 13:26 GMT
> >> >>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive
> >oil)
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> splash, which is significantly more than a smidgin, but less
> than too much.

Yes mine is usually a splash too because I don't measure :)
bj - 17 Mar 2006 18:46 GMT
> Yes mine is usually a splash too because I don't measure :)

When I add "a few drops" of water to something, I don't even use a spoon --
I just stick my hand under the faucet & scoop up a bit to toss or sprinkle
in.
bj
Chris J. - 20 Mar 2006 08:04 GMT
>>>This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
>>>with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.
>>
>>That's probably as appetizing to me as my breakfast is to you. :-)
>
>Yeah - sorry about that:-)

At least my breakfast would be fatal to you. <G>

>You just want to throw a bowl in the microwave?

>Try lightly whipping one egg with an equal volume of milk
>for a few seconds, throw a bit of parsley in, and zap in the
>microwave on high for one minute. Stir; if not done enough,
>give it another 15-30 seconds.
>
>Instant scrambled egg.

That does sound good!
I generally only like scrambled eggs with either cheese, or salsa, and
cheese has too much fat for me to use very often. Salsa, however, does
not, and it's also fairly low carb. Thanks, I'll give this a try!  

I'll probably have some yogurt with it, as one egg would probably
leave me hungry.
W. Baker - 20 Mar 2006 14:53 GMT
: >You just want to throw a bowl in the microwave?

: >Try lightly whipping one egg with an equal volume of milk
: >for a few seconds, throw a bit of parsley in, and zap in the
: >microwave on high for one minute. Stir; if not done enough,
: >give it another 15-30 seconds.
: >
: >Instant scrambled egg.

: That does sound good!
: I generally only like scrambled eggs with either cheese, or salsa, and
: cheese has too much fat for me to use very often. Salsa, however, does
: not, and it's also fairly low carb. Thanks, I'll give this a try!  

: I'll probably have some yogurt with it, as one egg would probably
: leave me hungry.
I often make an omelette with the fake eggs(so yu can have quite a
generous amount) and put salsa on it before folding it.  It coks quickly
in a teflon pan with a little spray fat on the pan if you like.  That with
2 or 3 Wasas make a dandy breakfast on days I don't have my regular
cottage cheese, etc. one.

Wendy
Chris J. - 23 Mar 2006 03:22 GMT
>: >You just want to throw a bowl in the microwave?
>
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>2 or 3 Wasas make a dandy breakfast on days I don't have my regular
>cottage cheese, etc. one.

If I'm in a hurry, I'll have a bowl of low-carb (now called protein
plus) special K cereal, with some ground flax, and either regular milk
or Hoods low-carb milk, usually with lots of fresh blueberries in it.

I've tried fake eggs, and for some reason the ones I have tried have a
chemical taste to me. I'm not at all fond of egg whites, so removing
the yolks is not a good option either. I'm thinking that regular eggs,
due to their fat types, aren't that bad in moderation, so I have real
eggs when I have eggs.

One thing I do to extend the eggs is blend in some tofu.

The real problem I have with omelettes is that I like them with
cheese, so I have them rarely.  
W. Baker - 23 Mar 2006 17:41 GMT
: >I often make an omelette with the fake eggs(so yu can have quite a
: >generous amount) and put salsa on it before folding it.  It coks quickly
: >in a teflon pan with a little spray fat on the pan if you like.  That with
: >2 or 3 Wasas make a dandy breakfast on days I don't have my regular
: >cottage cheese, etc. one.

: If I'm in a hurry, I'll have a bowl of low-carb (now called protein
: plus) special K cereal, with some ground flax, and either regular milk
: or Hoods low-carb milk, usually with lots of fresh blueberries in it.

Unfortunatly, Ihave found that any cereal sems to spike me in the morning,
articularly since I can no longer takea nice brisk walk afer breadfast.  
The Wasa type crackers don;t seem to do the same.
 
: I've tried fake eggs, and for some reason the ones I have tried have a
: chemical taste to me. I'm not at all fond of egg whites, so removing
: the yolks is not a good option either.

That may be why you don't like the fake eggs, as the are mostly whites.  I
think useing them is like getting used to diet soda, a mater of
acclimitization.  they seem to tste better as time goes by and yu are not
havign the real things as ofen.

I'm thinking that regular eggs,
: due to their fat types, aren't that bad in moderation, so I have real
: eggs when I have eggs.

For me is is also a quantity thing.  the calorie count of the fake eggs
allows me to have a generous portion tht pparantly fills me up  One egg
ust doesn't do the trick.  

: The real problem I have with omelettes is that I like them with
: cheese, so I have them rarely.  

Try a lttle grated paemgian or other grated cheese, or a small amount of
Feta with some tomato in the omelette.  greatly improves the taste (for me
with the fake eggs)  without much additional fat.

Wendy
Chris J. - 25 Mar 2006 11:27 GMT
>: >I often make an omelette with the fake eggs(so yu can have quite a
>: >generous amount) and put salsa on it before folding it.  It coks quickly
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>: plus) special K cereal, with some ground flax, and either regular milk
>: or Hoods low-carb milk, usually with lots of fresh blueberries in it.

Sorry for the slow reply: I put work on hold while I was dealing with
the eye issues, and now I'm playing catch-up, with very little free
time.

>Unfortunatly, Ihave found that any cereal sems to spike me in the morning,
>articularly since I can no longer takea nice brisk walk afer breadfast.  
>The Wasa type crackers don;t seem to do the same.

Have you tried low-carb cereals? Special K has 9g net. I don't think I
could eat regular cereals either, though I haven't tried any (except
one flax-based one, which was ok) since Dx.  
 
>: I've tried fake eggs, and for some reason the ones I have tried have a
>: chemical taste to me. I'm not at all fond of egg whites, so removing
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>acclimitization.  they seem to tste better as time goes by and yu are not
>havign the real things as ofen.

The strange thing is, I've always preferred diet soda to regular,
based on taste alone, even as a kid.

>I'm thinking that regular eggs,
>: due to their fat types, aren't that bad in moderation, so I have real
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>allows me to have a generous portion tht pparantly fills me up  One egg
>ust doesn't do the trick.  

I'm not counting calories at all anymore, so the calorie content of
eggs isn't a worry for me.

>: The real problem I have with omelettes is that I like them with
>: cheese, so I have them rarely.  
>
>Try a lttle grated paemgian or other grated cheese, or a small amount of
>Feta with some tomato in the omelette.  greatly improves the taste (for me
>with the fake eggs)  without much additional fat.

I happen to love both of those! I love the hard, sharp cheeses the
best. Very sharp cheddar is a favorite, though it's fatty. I did
however find a delightful lower fat version. Romano is another
favorite of mine, and you are right, I could have Romano or Parmesan
as they have little fat.

Hmmm... Tomorrow is Saturday, and I'm thinking scrambled eggs with
chilli peppers, Romano, Basil, and pepper! Yummm!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!
Chris Malcolm - 16 Mar 2006 11:53 GMT
> I try to vary each morning a little. Sure, there's usually
> an egg in some form - but I vary through simple fried,
> boiled, poached, to scrambled, omelettes with various
> fillings, frittatas etc and some days something completely
> different - casseroles etc. I couldn't have the same thing
> daily - I'd go nuts.

> This morning was a single easy-over fried egg (in olive oil)
> with 60gm of lightly fried smoked trout.

My two favourite breakfasts have settled down to being either a baked
mackerel or a baked venison burger topped with a fried egg and some
baked beans. If I'm going to spend the morning mostly sitting down
I'll usually skip breakfast.

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Chris J. - 15 Mar 2006 09:18 GMT
>>So, in the interest of trans-pacific camaraderie, I offer you an
>>option: you can either exercise, or start eating my veg, tofu, flax
>>seed, mustard and tabasco breakfast instead. :-)
>
>Um, no. Thanks.

>I'll take Larry's advice, but not necessarily religiously.
>20 miles a week? 90 flights of stairs? Gawd.

20 miles a week? 90 flights of stairs a week? Gawd is right! Not
nearly enough!!! <grin>

I easily do that on my job (realtor, so lots of walking and stair
climbing), and often more. I live in a three story house, so that's
easily 30 flights a day just at home. And then there is my mountain
hiking addiction: that adds another 30 miles a week, unless I go on
some long hikes (up to 20 miles, per hike).

Am I making you depressed yet? 'cause I'm sure trying. <grin>

Then there are little chores, like chopping my own firewood (including
felling the trees) for heat.

See? My breakfast couldn't be that bad for me. <grin>  

Seriously though, a friend of mine lost a bet, and thus had to eat one
of my breakfasts (for lunch, in this case). He actually admitted that
it wasn't that bad. I mean, heck, it's not like it's a pie floater!
:-)

Seriously though, all jokes aside, I do have a real point here: use a
pedometer all the time for a test for a few days. You might be amazed
at how much walking you actually do once you add it all up.
W. Baker - 13 Mar 2006 23:34 GMT
: Hi All

: I started metformin since my previous CT Scan so I was a bit
: surprised when I received a warning from the nurse just
: before and again after the scan to get an extra blood test
: and to take no more metformin until after the doc had
: reviewed that test.

: For anyone who may be interested, this is part of the
: printout she gave me:

: "After discussion with your GP, our radiologist has
: instructed us that you should stop taking Metformin for the
: next 72 hours.

: Metformin is a medication for the treatment of diabetes and
: very rarely can cause kidney problems after a patient has an
: injection of x-ray contrast. To minimise the risk you have
: been instructed to :

: o Stop taking metformin for 72 hours following your
: radiology examination.

: o Drink plenty of water during the next 2 days.

: o Have your blood test in 2 days time; the result will be
: sent to your GP.

: o Contact your GP if you become unwell or have any problems
: post examination."

: I've just found that the renal function test came out OK and
: I'm back on the metformin.  However, I'll have a chat to the
: doc before the next CT scan; maybe I should be stopping the
: met a day or two before the scan.

: Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. : d&e, metformin 2x500mg : -- : Everything
in Moderation - Except Laughter.

I recently had to go for a CTScan adn asked my endo before I went.  He
told me to stop taking the Metformin a day before the test adn for 3 days
after.  Fortunately, my pai doctor told me the test was to be
non-contrast, so I did not have to sto medication or get extra tests, etc.
For some reason, I had herd about this soem time ago, so ws preared to ask
before the test.  

Wendy
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 25 Mar 2006 13:15 GMT
> Hi All
>
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> doc before the next CT scan; maybe I should be stopping the
> met a day or two before the scan.

That would be wise.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

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For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

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Prayerfully in Christ's love,

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