Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006
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Dave - 12 Mar 2006 22:51 GMT http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHealthPolicy/PracticeManagement/dh/2816
COLUMBUS, Ohio, March 8 - Television doctor Gregory House is winning high ratings by being a rude, arrogant troublemaker, but he'd lose out big-time on a new scale that rates an ideal doctor. The best physician is confident, empathetic, humane, personal, forthright, respectful, and thorough, according to a study in the March issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings.
House - played by actor Hugh Laurie as a limping curmudgeon who despises patients but loves their diseases - fails miserably to meet most of the standards, according to research conducted by Neeli Bendapudi, Ph.D., of Ohio State and colleagues.
House is presented as a brilliant diagnostician, but his technical competence wouldn't enter the equation, Dr. Bendapudi and colleagues concluded, because most patients can't judge medical skill even after they have been treated.
Instead, patients judge doctors on the basis of how they behave in the clinic and office, the researchers concluded.
"Patients can sense if the physician is rushed, preoccupied, tired, aloof, disinterested, or alarmed just as they can sense a physician's genuine interest, compassion, calmness, and confidence," the researchers said.
The study is based on interviews with a random sample of 192 patients who were seen in 14 different medical specialties at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Ariz., and the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.
The interviews, focused on the patient-physician interaction, lasted between 20 and 50 minutes. Patients described their best and worst experiences with a doctor in the Mayo Clinic system and gave specifics of the encounter.
From those interviews, Dr. Bendapudi and colleagues extracted the seven key attributes that would make up the ideal doctor.
Of the seven, the most mentioned was "thorough," the researchers noted, while "empathetic" came up least frequently.
The study is one of the first of its kind and therefore valuable, said James Li, M.D., Ph.D., of the Mayor Clinic in Rochester, but it has several key limitations, including a lack of information about the demographic characteristics of the interviewees. Several studies have shown that minorities and women were more likely to feel they got less-than-ideal treatment, Dr. Li wrote in an accompanying editorial. "It would be informative to know more detail about the interviewed patients," he said.
Other limitations, acknowledged by the researchers, are that the data are qualitative and that the subjects were all involved with one institution, which may limit the generalizabilty of the work. However, they added, the study is exploratory and was not intended to say anything about the "prevalence of phenomena." Also, they noted, patients in the study had wide experience in the health-care system.
"Our respondents drew from a rich experience base when commenting on Mayo Clinic physicians," they said.
Dr. Li added that health care can't be high-quality if physicians are seen as hurried, disrespectful, cold, or callous.
Dr. Li said it's up to the medical community to find ways design a health care system that encourages doctors to exhibit positive qualities during the clinical encounter.
"A physician who pays personal attention to the patient -- who is respectful, compassionate and competent -- that's what every patient wants," Dr. Li wrote.
The authors introduced the concept of clue management which they feel "may be a useful tool for transforming the broader behavioral themes into discrete behaviors that positively affect patient perceptions of the service experience." As an example, for the ideal physician behavior of "thorough," the illustrative "humanic" clues would be:
Provides detailed explanations.
Gives instructions in writing.
Follows up in a timely manner,
Expresses to patient desire to consult other clinicians or research literature on a difficult case.
As another example, the illustrative "humanic" clues for "confident" would be:
Refers to state-of-the-art medical practices.
Refers to experience in treating specific medical conditions or performing procedures.
Is not disturbed by patient's queries about medical information acquired from other sources (regardless of accuracy or inaccuracy).
Is at ease in the presence of patient, family members, and medical colleagues.
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 00:37 GMT >The study is based on interviews with a random sample of 192 patients >who were seen in 14 different medical specialties at the Mayo Clinic in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Of the seven, the most mentioned was "thorough," the researchers noted, >while "empathetic" came up least frequently. I tried to load the study, but you have to be a Mayo member http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/Abstract.asp
It appears from reading the article that they may not have asked the most important question: "Did the doctor's treatment and advice improve your health?".
I've had "thorough" doctors who were thoroughly out of date, and "empathetic" doctors who didn't warn me of impending diabetes for years before diagnosis.
My present doctor is the best I've had - despite telling me via his receptioniste after hours that I had diabetes. At least he told me, and tells me the facts as they are. He listens, is interested in what I do without always agreeing, but makes me aware of his reasons why. I don't expect him to be infallible and he knows his own limits as a GP and when to send me to a specialist. I've never had cause to disagree with his diagnoses (he also discovered the CLL and other interesting things that others missed), and we can discuss testing and dietary matters intelligently.
I hope he never retires - but we'll eventually lose him from our village - he's too good and he'll go on to bigger practices. And he's also getting harder to make an appointment with, as our village becomes a town and his reputation spreads.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Loretta Eisenberg - 13 Mar 2006 00:40 GMT My endo has the skill of Dr. House and the bedside manner of Marcus Welby, M.D. He is a keeper for me. I am glad he is younger than I.
Loretta
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pinecone - 13 Mar 2006 03:54 GMT My primary care doctor is my age and is both a GP and a researcher. He tends not to overmedicate and isn't one of those who scripts antibiotics whenever I sneeze. He discusses things with me, is a pragmatist, and I frequently carry along research I've found and I think he actually appreciates it and we have good discussions. I will definitely keep him.
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Jennifer - 13 Mar 2006 03:57 GMT My doctor is younger than me too... by exactly one month.
I love her. She doesn't talk *at* me... she talks *with* me. I can reach her quickly via phone or email when I need to, and she never makes me feel like she needs to rush off somewhere. I can also ask her about studies I've read and if she hasn't, she'll find them and get back to me. It's good to like the doctor you're seeing every three months!
I figure when she and I are ready to retire, I'll just ask her who she's going to use as her doctor and I'll go there ; )
Jennifer
> My endo has the skill of Dr. House and the bedside manner of Marcus > Welby, M.D. He is a keeper for me. I am glad he is younger than I. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Joe - 13 Mar 2006 06:24 GMT My doctor is as dumb as a rock when it comes to diabetes. He's only good for writting my Rx's and ordering normal tests I need (blood work, etc...). My next option is to go to Las Vegas and use a Doc there, but the health care there is worse than it is here. Oh well!
 Signature Joe W T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) & 30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.*****
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 09:35 GMT >My doctor is as dumb as a rock when it comes to diabetes. He's only good for >writting my Rx's and ordering normal tests I need (blood work, etc...). My >next option is to go to Las Vegas and use a Doc there, but the health care >there is worse than it is here. Oh well! Then try your next option. If you believe that what you are doing is working - keep doing it. But if you occasionally need good qualified advice - find it. What is your life worth?
And if that is in LA, or Dallas, or NYC or Greenland - use Orbitz or Expedia for a cheap airfare. Have a nice holiday for a couple of days every three months and see a doc at the same time.
If the need is sufficient, I find the means. I'll be going to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel on Thursday to see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only a two-hour 120km drive. When the best haemo I know dropped in from the USA last October to give a speech, I flew to Melbourne. The mortgage keeps climbing - but I can't take the house with me when I go.
Whatever you want in life, it has a price. Find out what you want, find out the price (time, effort, emotion or dollars), decide if you still want it that badly, and if you do, pay it.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Nev. - 13 Mar 2006 14:31 GMT > I'll be going to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel > on Thursday to see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only > a two-hour 120km drive. Alan,
Do you think it would be convenient for you to meet any of the locals for a coffee during your brief escape from the deep south? Or perhaps on a future trip with more notice?
Nev.
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 22:54 GMT >> I'll be going to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel >> on Thursday to see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Nev. Hi Nev
Email me; remove "weightandcarbs".
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Joe - 13 Mar 2006 19:24 GMT > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:24:11 GMT, "Joe"
> Then try your next option. If you believe that what you are > doing is working - keep doing it. But if you occasionally [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg No way! We lived in Vegas awhile back(2004) and the healthcare is SCARY there. You are better off doing nothing then using the doc's there. Your welfare is not in their best interest, just your pocketbook and there isn't enough of them anyways. The basic healthcare system can't keep up with the inflow of new residents.
I spent 6 hours waiting in an ER for something that should have taken no time since I was having chest pains, fortunately it was only heartburn. After waiting all that time the first thing they did was a chest X-ray. There were people in the waiting room and the reception area with IV's hanging off them. They did my blood draw over the counter at the reception desk WOW! When I was there, their were 26 people admitted just waiting for beds. One lady told me she had been waiting to get a room for 12hrs.
My wife is a RN and she could let you stories that would make your skin crawl on how bad things were. If a nurse doesn't show up for work one day and the hospital just assumes that you quit because thats how it usually happens. We were there for two years and 5 nurses just stopped showing up for work in that time.
When I first moved there, I went to see a GP and get the normal stuff taken care of. I had me blood work done and when I went back to see him he was gone. No one knew where he went, they just assigned me a new GP and life went on(very common I'm told).
Poor healthcare was a major reason for us leaving the area. http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3403259 http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2003/12/19/qanda.html
I could go on & on about the stuff we've seen out there. Glad to be gone from that hell hole. My Doc may be dumb as rocks, but I'm still far better off with him(IMO).
 Signature Joe W T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) & 30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.*****
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 22:51 GMT >No way! We lived in Vegas awhile back(2004) and the healthcare is SCARY >there. Hi Joe
I didn't mention Las Vegas. I'm not over there, but when I went to Las Vegas - I don't think it was near "LA, or Dallas, or NYC or Greenland" :-))
How far is the nearest OTHER source of medical help from your home? By car, rail or air?
Anyway, I think you know what I meant.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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