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Dave - 12 Mar 2006 22:51 GMT
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHealthPolicy/PracticeManagement/dh/2816

COLUMBUS, Ohio, March 8 - Television doctor Gregory House is winning
high ratings by being a rude, arrogant troublemaker, but he'd lose out
big-time on a new scale that rates an ideal doctor.

The best physician is confident, empathetic, humane, personal,
forthright, respectful, and thorough, according to a study in the March
issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings.

House - played by actor Hugh Laurie as a limping curmudgeon who despises
patients but loves their diseases - fails miserably to meet most of the
standards, according to research conducted by Neeli Bendapudi, Ph.D., of
Ohio State and colleagues.

House is presented as a brilliant diagnostician, but his technical
competence wouldn't enter the equation, Dr. Bendapudi and colleagues
concluded, because most patients can't judge medical skill even after
they have been treated.

Instead, patients judge doctors on the basis of how they behave in the
clinic and office, the researchers concluded.

"Patients can sense if the physician is rushed, preoccupied, tired,
aloof, disinterested, or alarmed just as they can sense a physician's
genuine interest, compassion, calmness, and confidence," the researchers
said.

The study is based on interviews with a random sample of 192 patients
who were seen in 14 different medical specialties at the Mayo Clinic in
Scottsdale, Ariz., and the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.

The interviews, focused on the patient-physician interaction, lasted
between 20 and 50 minutes. Patients described their best and worst
experiences with a doctor in the Mayo Clinic system and gave specifics
of the encounter.

From those interviews, Dr. Bendapudi and colleagues extracted the seven
key attributes that would make up the ideal doctor.

Of the seven, the most mentioned was "thorough," the researchers noted,
while "empathetic" came up least frequently.

The study is one of the first of its kind and therefore valuable, said
James Li, M.D., Ph.D., of the Mayor Clinic in Rochester, but it has
several key limitations, including a lack of information about the
demographic characteristics of the interviewees.
Several studies have shown that minorities and women were more likely to
feel they got less-than-ideal treatment, Dr. Li wrote in an accompanying
editorial. "It would be informative to know more detail about the
interviewed patients," he said.

Other limitations, acknowledged by the researchers, are that the data
are qualitative and that the subjects were all involved with one
institution, which may limit the generalizabilty of the work.
However, they added, the study is exploratory and was not intended to
say anything about the "prevalence of phenomena." Also, they noted,
patients in the study had wide experience in the health-care system.

"Our respondents drew from a rich experience base when commenting on
Mayo Clinic physicians," they said.

Dr. Li added that health care can't be high-quality if physicians are
seen as hurried, disrespectful, cold, or callous.

Dr. Li said it's up to the medical community to find ways design a
health care system that encourages doctors to exhibit positive qualities
during the clinical encounter.

"A physician who pays personal attention to the patient -- who is
respectful, compassionate and competent -- that's what every patient
wants," Dr. Li wrote.

The authors introduced the concept of clue management which they feel
"may be a useful tool for transforming the broader behavioral themes
into discrete behaviors that positively affect patient perceptions of
the service experience." As an example, for the ideal physician behavior
of "thorough," the illustrative "humanic" clues would be:

Provides detailed explanations.

Gives instructions in writing.

Follows up in a timely manner,

Expresses to patient desire to consult other
clinicians or research literature on a difficult case.

As another example, the illustrative "humanic" clues for "confident"
would be:

Refers to state-of-the-art medical practices.

Refers to experience in treating specific medical conditions or
performing procedures.

Is not disturbed by patient's queries about medical information acquired
from other sources (regardless of accuracy or inaccuracy).

Is at ease in the presence of patient, family members, and medical
colleagues.
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 00:37 GMT
>The study is based on interviews with a random sample of 192 patients
>who were seen in 14 different medical specialties at the Mayo Clinic in
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Of the seven, the most mentioned was "thorough," the researchers noted,
>while "empathetic" came up least frequently.

I tried to load the study, but you have to be a Mayo member
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/Abstract.asp

It appears from reading the article that they may not have
asked the most important question:
"Did the doctor's treatment and advice improve your
health?".

I've had "thorough" doctors who were thoroughly out of date,
and "empathetic" doctors who didn't warn me of impending
diabetes for years before diagnosis.

My present doctor is the best I've had - despite telling me
via his receptioniste after hours that I had diabetes. At
least he told me, and tells me the facts as they are. He
listens, is interested in what I do without always agreeing,
but makes me aware of his reasons why. I don't expect him to
be infallible and he knows his own limits as a GP and when
to send me to a specialist. I've never had cause to disagree
with his diagnoses (he also discovered the CLL and other
interesting things that others missed), and we can discuss
testing and dietary matters intelligently.

I hope he never retires - but we'll eventually lose him from
our village - he's too good and he'll go on to bigger
practices. And he's also getting harder to make an
appointment with, as our village becomes a town and his
reputation spreads.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 13 Mar 2006 00:40 GMT
My endo has the skill of Dr. House and the bedside manner of Marcus
Welby, M.D.  He is a keeper for me.  I am glad he is younger than I.

Loretta

--
In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
pinecone - 13 Mar 2006 03:54 GMT
My primary care doctor is my age and is both a GP and a researcher.  He
tends not to overmedicate and isn't one of those who scripts
antibiotics whenever I sneeze.  He discusses things with me, is a
pragmatist, and I frequently carry along research I've found and I
think he actually appreciates it and we have good discussions.  I will
definitely keep him.

pc
Jennifer - 13 Mar 2006 03:57 GMT
My doctor is younger than me too... by exactly one month.

I love her.   She doesn't talk *at* me... she talks *with* me.  I can
reach her quickly via phone or email when I need to, and she never makes
me feel like she needs to rush off somewhere.  I can also ask her about
studies I've read and if she hasn't, she'll find them and get back to
me.   It's good to like the doctor you're seeing every three months!

I figure when she and I are ready to retire, I'll just ask her who she's
going to use as her doctor and I'll go there ; )

Jennifer

> My endo has the skill of Dr. House and the bedside manner of Marcus
> Welby, M.D.  He is a keeper for me.  I am glad he is younger than I.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
Joe - 13 Mar 2006 06:24 GMT
My doctor is as dumb as a rock when it comes to diabetes. He's only good for
writting my Rx's and ordering normal tests I need (blood work, etc...). My
next option is to go to Las Vegas and use a Doc there, but the health care
there is worse than it is here. Oh well!

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Joe W
T2 Nov '05
30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) &
30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week
*****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.*****

Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 09:35 GMT
>My doctor is as dumb as a rock when it comes to diabetes. He's only good for
>writting my Rx's and ordering normal tests I need (blood work, etc...). My
>next option is to go to Las Vegas and use a Doc there, but the health care
>there is worse than it is here. Oh well!

Then try your next option. If you believe that what you are
doing is working - keep doing it. But if you occasionally
need good qualified advice - find it. What is your life
worth?

And if that is in LA, or Dallas, or NYC or Greenland - use
Orbitz or Expedia for a cheap airfare. Have a nice holiday
for a couple of days every three months and see a doc at the
same time.

If the need is sufficient, I find the means. I'll be going
to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel on Thursday to
see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only a two-hour 120km
drive. When the best haemo I know dropped in from the USA
last October to give a speech, I flew to Melbourne. The
mortgage keeps climbing - but I can't take the house with me
when I go.

Whatever you want in life, it has a price. Find out what you
want, find out the price (time, effort, emotion or dollars),
decide if you still want it that badly, and if you do, pay
it.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Nev. - 13 Mar 2006 14:31 GMT
>  I'll be going to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel
> on Thursday to see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only
> a two-hour 120km drive.

Alan,

Do you think it would be convenient for you to meet any
of the locals for a coffee during your brief escape from the
deep south?  Or perhaps on a future trip with more notice?

Nev.
Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 22:54 GMT
>>  I'll be going to Brisbane and staying the night in a hotel
>> on Thursday to see the haemo. Brisbane is not far - only
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>
>Nev.

Hi Nev

Email me; remove "weightandcarbs".

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Joe - 13 Mar 2006 19:24 GMT
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:24:11 GMT, "Joe"

> Then try your next option. If you believe that what you are
> doing is working - keep doing it. But if you occasionally
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
> d&e, metformin 2x500mg

No way! We lived in Vegas awhile back(2004) and the healthcare is SCARY
there. You are better off doing nothing then using the doc's there. Your
welfare is not in their best interest, just your pocketbook and there isn't
enough of them anyways. The basic healthcare system can't keep up with the
inflow of new residents.

I spent 6 hours waiting in an ER for something that should have taken no
time since I was having chest pains, fortunately it was only heartburn.
After waiting all that time the first thing they did was a chest X-ray.
There were people in the waiting room and the reception area with IV's
hanging off them. They did my blood draw over the counter at the reception
desk WOW! When I was there, their were 26 people admitted just waiting for
beds. One lady told me she had been waiting to get a room for 12hrs.

My wife is a RN and she could let you stories that would make your skin
crawl on how bad things were. If a nurse doesn't show up for work one day
and the hospital just assumes that you quit because thats how it usually
happens. We were there for two years and 5 nurses just stopped showing up
for work in that time.

When I first moved there, I went to see a GP and get the normal stuff taken
care of. I had me blood work done and when I went back to see him he was
gone. No one knew where he went, they just assigned me a new GP and life
went on(very common I'm told).

Poor healthcare was a major reason for us leaving the area.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3403259
http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2003/12/19/qanda.html

I could go on & on  about the stuff we've seen out there. Glad to be gone
from that hell hole. My Doc may be dumb as rocks, but I'm still far better
off with him(IMO).

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Joe W
T2 Nov '05
30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) &
30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week
*****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.*****

Alan S - 13 Mar 2006 22:51 GMT
>No way! We lived in Vegas awhile back(2004) and the healthcare is SCARY
>there.

Hi Joe

I didn't mention Las Vegas. I'm not over there, but when I
went to Las Vegas - I don't think it was near "LA, or
Dallas, or NYC or Greenland" :-))

How far is the nearest OTHER source of medical help from
your home? By car, rail or air?

Anyway, I think you know what I meant.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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