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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Is this a sign I still have some phase 1 capacity left?
It's me again, still shaking but hanging in there... I think I'm feeling the liver dumps as well as the drops, as sometimes I feel fine and test, then start feeling bad and test and my bg has actually gone up (not by a ton, but like from 90 to 100 or something like that). The worst thing is at night. Last night I woke up with the chills and was 75, had a small handful of almonds and went back to bed, then woke up at 5 AM with the shakes at 98. One thing I've noticed is that if I haven't eaten in awhile, am feeling shaky, and my bg has gone up like this then when I finally eat the bg actually goes DOWN in the first 15 minutes. Today I was at 98, feeling shaky, then ate a small cracker with peanut butter on it and started feeling weird again in 15 minutes, tested and my bg was 78! Considering food hitting bottom can stimulate enough insulin to drop my bg 20 pts in 15 minutes, is this a sign that I still have some phase 1 insulin capacity (at least enough to turn off my dumping liver)? LQ, shakin' the weight off, 15 lbs down now. >It's me again, still shaking but hanging in there... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >LQ, shakin' the weight off, 15 lbs down now. Damn! LQ What are you going to do? Sounds like a trial run in Gehenna (Gai-Hinnom)! Any suggestions from your doctor? Will, T2 I know, this has been a month of shaking as of Tuesday. It sucks, it's really wearing me out, especially when it happens at night. Can I count it towards my daily exercise quotient? :lol: . The doc doesn't have much helpful advice, other than "keep do what I'm doing" (lowering carbs, exercise, weight loss). He can't explain why I seem to feel small swings that other people don't, and had no way of treating it. My body temperature is swinging up and down as well (96.5 - 99.8, sometimes in a single day) when I used to be a static 98.6 girl. Unfortunately the doc says that "all those temps are normal". Well, they aren't normal for me. I've come to the conclusion that the medical system is of little use unless you come in with something badly screwed up that they have a pill or surgery for. A full-body f&ckup like what's going on with me seems beyond what they can deal with. They're trained to treat symptoms not systems. What's interesting is that my mother has/had the exact same problem, and it was worse around menopause than it is now (she's almost 70). I just started perimenopause. The swings themselves are reactive/functional hypoglycemia, and the ability to feel them so acutely may be coming from the female hormones being out of whack. I have an appt with a highly vouched-for holistic doc on Tuesday. It's 3 hours from here and I have to stay overnight the night before to get there on time, but if they can come up with some way of mitigating the symptoms of this thing I'm willing to take a shot at it. I normally think that they are "witch doctors" but at this point I'm willing to listen to all ideas and try anything that's not poisonous or won't hurt my blood sugar readings. Several people I know have seen this doc and had very good results for things that the regular doc didn't have an answer for. If it doesn't work, then oh well at least I tried. The money is secondary, a couple of hundred dollars for a chance at stopping this is well worth it, IMHO. LQ the Martini shaker >I know, this has been a month of shaking as of Tuesday. It sucks, it's >really wearing me out, especially when it happens at night. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >LQ the Martini shaker Well, all's I can say is martinis are great drinks, but only if you want to shake them.... I am so sorry for you. Please keep us posted. And, if there is any doubt, please go to the ER.... Will, T2 > I know, this has been a month of shaking as of Tuesday. It sucks, it's > really wearing me out, especially when it happens at night. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > secondary, a couple of hundred dollars for a chance at stopping this is > well worth it, IMHO. Are you sure you don't have a thyroid problem? This sounds like what was happening to me when I was hyperthyroid. I'd get overheated very easily or cold very easily. If overheated, I could manage to cool myself off with a fan and blue ice. But if too cold, I could stay that way for hours. I had heaps of blankets in every room and also in my vehicle. I never knew where it would happen. I was also having tons of hypos. I remember going through a very long stretch of time where I'd sit with my meter in one hand and a bag of candy in the other. I'd bring myself out of one hypo only to plunge into another mere minutes later. I had to eat enough carbs at my meals or I'd go hypo. I can recall many times having to have 1/2 a piece of pie with my dinner when we dined out if they didn't give me enough potatoes or a roll with my meal just so I'd have enough carbs to carry me through to the next meal. And this was AFTER I stopped taking diabetes meds. It was horrible. An extra trip up and down the stairs could put me hypo. My daughter was a toddler at the time and I didn't like taking her outside to play for fear I'd have to chase her because that could cause a hypo. Luckily I had understanding neighbors who were good to help me. At any rate, I hope they get to the root of your problems because it doesn't sound like fun!  SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm > Are you sure you don't have a thyroid problem? The first doc checked my TSH and it was normal (.89). Didn't check my T3 and T4 which kind of irked me. I'm better today. Yesterday I had a big dinner (chicken & broccoli, with a side of a small amount of kidney beans) and went to bed a few hours later (wasn't high, I checked) and slept straight through until 6 AM which is more contiguous sleep than I've gotten in a month. I don't feel as messed up this AM. I hope it stays this way, but last week I had some good days like this but then the next day was a bad one. I also got my period, which has either been MIA or sputtering for the last 8 weeks. That may have something to do with it (or normalizing my BG may have straightened the hormones out enough for it to come back). LQ >>Are you sure you don't have a thyroid problem? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > LQ This is why the new doc wants to give it two months more; the 3 month feedback loop. Just to remind you, the onset of peri for me began with chills, trembling, insomnia and brain fog. Susan >This is why the new doc wants to give it two months more; the 3 month >feedback loop. While it's comforting to think that this will be sorted out in 3 months, I can't afford to lose 2 more months of my life to this, particularly at work. I have been USELESS. My boss is understanding, so far (I had to level with him that I'm not well right now) but his patience isn't unlimited. I'm also getting laid off in July (all of us are) so need to spend this time on retraining for looking for new work. I can't do that if I can't think. LQ >>This is why the new doc wants to give it two months more; the 3 month >>feedback loop. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > LQ It's not as if you have a choice, so you're going to have to find a way to be useFUL. In all likelihood, things will gradually improve. Even if you get the BG stuff all straightened out, you may still find you have to deal with peri symptoms, if yours are as severe as mine were, and they sound alike. Fixing this stuff is a process, not a quick treatment, and the symptoms will evolve and change over time, both for better and worse. Not trying to be tough on you, just offering a reality check. I understand why you want this fixed yesterday. :-) Susan > It's me again, still shaking but hanging in there... > > I think I'm feeling the liver dumps as well as the drops, as sometimes > I feel fine and test, then start feeling bad and test and my bg has > actually gone up (not by a ton, but like from 90 to 100 or something > like that). If you can feel a difference of around half a mmol/l, then you're a wizard. The worst thing is at night. Last night I woke up with the > chills and was 75, had a small handful of almonds and went back to bed, > then woke up at 5 AM with the shakes at 98. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > shaky, then ate a small cracker with peanut butter on it and started > feeling weird again in 15 minutes, tested and my bg was 78! That's hunger that is:-) SignatureBeav OMF#19 VN 750 Zed Thou mail is beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com (with the obvious changes) > If you can feel a difference of around half a mmol/l, then you're a wizard. It's not the sugar going up I can feel, it's the epinephrine squirt that makes it go up that I seem to be having an issue with. I'm sick and tired of people telling me it's in my head. When you can't hold a pen well enough to write, then it's NOT IN YOUR HEAD. I have problems with the Novocaine at the dentists office too, because it has epinephrine in it. I have to ask the doc to use the low- or no-epinephrine variety because if he doesn't I SHAKE. LQ |
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