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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 15:58 GMT
I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
it.  I just had it for breakfast.  two biscuits are 24 carbs ,  I had
one biscuit with some cottage cheese and canteloup.  
How do I love it. I love it from the depth and breath of me.  It is
fabulous,  I crumbled it up in some milk with one splenda and I was in
heaven.  

Thanks to those who talked about it.  I have a new cereal which I will
eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-)

Try it if you can, I think you will like it.

Loretta

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Laura@notmy.com - 05 Mar 2006 17:07 GMT
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
>supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
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>
>Loretta

Loretta!  I absolutely love you.  Your post just gave me the greatest
smile.

Thanks for that.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:35 GMT
Laura, if I put a smile on your face, I have had  a successful day.  
Loretta

and having just found out I dont owe any taxes puts a smile on my
face.lol

Loretta

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Uncle Enrico - 05 Mar 2006 17:19 GMT
I  felt the same way when I discovered a low-carb pancake I could eat in the
morning.

I recent had a similar experience when I concocted a low carb creamy
broccoli cheese soup.

The  husband/food comparison had me laughing. It also reminded me that my
relationship with food has lasted longer than any romantic relationship
I've ever had.

>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
> supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
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> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:37 GMT
Uncle, does that mean you are single.  boy do I have a nice girl
for you . Isnt that what all the women say when they hear a guy is
single.  We dont want them to be too happy. hahahahaha

Loretta

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tog - 05 Mar 2006 17:29 GMT
Dear Loretta,

I am soo pleased you love Weetabix..(me too)

I used to breed West Highland White Terriers and Weetabix is one of the best
weaning foods, twice daily mixed with baby milk.

Nearly forgot, I  weaned my daughter on it too.  lol

Sue :)

>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
> supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
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> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:37 GMT
Sue, a food for all seasons and reasons.  Loretta

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Nicky - 05 Mar 2006 18:39 GMT
> Thanks to those who talked about it.  I have a new cereal which I will
> eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-)

ROFL! Too carby for me for breakfast now. I used to love them spread with
butter and marmalade.

Nicky.

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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:38 GMT
Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
the morning.

Loretta

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Nicky - 05 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
> Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
> the morning.

Yes - 6 is my limit. Actually, it might have improved since my DP went away,
but I haven't tried rocking any boats! I'm happy with flaxseed porridge or
the occasional egg/bacon breakfast.

Nicky.

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Julie Bove - 05 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
> Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
> the morning.

It's too much for me.  I can only do about 4g.  No more.  I keep trying to
do 1/2 a grapefruit but even that is too much.  Now it's pumpkin seeds and a
tiny bite of a flavorless raw flax snack.

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Alan S - 05 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT
>Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
>the morning.
>
>Loretta

Not Nicky, but that is certainly too much for me. My
breakfast limit seems to be about 5gm. Above that and I
shoot well over 7(126) at one hour. YMMV.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Chief - 06 Mar 2006 01:10 GMT
>>Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
>>the morning.
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> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at
the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go up
when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads?

None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance.
Alan S - 06 Mar 2006 01:52 GMT
>>>Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in
>>>the morning.
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>
>None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance.

Hi Chief

This is a constant matter of debate here, so I'll just give
my personal point of view as a type 2. I stress that point,
because what I say may, or may not, be valid for a type 1.

It's not the two-hour or the one-hour that matter - it's the
peak. For me that is generally about an hour after I put
down my cutlery. For you it may be different and the way to
find out is to follow this advice:
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

I see the peak post-prandial BGs, whatever their timing, as
the most important indicator to me as a self-manager of the
effect of my menu and of my management. I use that to assist
me in making decisions on changes in my diet, exercise or
(with doctor's involvement) medications.

At two hours my BGs have usually come back to "rest" levels
- YMMV. My doctor uses those, and my FBGs, lipids and A1c to
assess whether he is prescribing correctly for my diabetes.

So to me, the one-hour test helps me directly and the
two-hour (or FBG) test helps my doctor help me. I see those
who ignore their peak results as using the "ostrich" method
of diabetes management, with their heads in the sand (being
polite:-) ignoring danger. But that's just my opinion.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
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Kurt - 06 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT
> Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at
> the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go up
> when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads?
>
> None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance.

Chief,

Not ignorance at all, just a good question and one that is asked here
often.  Like many things in here, and with diabetes in general, you're
going to get a mix of answers and theories.  There may not be a right
answer but rather a preferential one based on what you choose to
believe.  My first response would be to ask you: What does your doctor
say your goal numbers are?  My second question: What do you feel you
want your goal numbers to be? And lastly, I would offer this link from
a pretty respectable organization.  Keep in mind that it may be advice
for the average person with diabetes and not for one who wants to
tighten the screws as much as possible.

http://joslin.org/Beginners_guide_523.asp

Best,
Kurt
Chief - 06 Mar 2006 19:13 GMT
>> Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130
>> at the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal
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> Best,
> Kurt

My goal number is below what Jennifer has on her page for now. I'm pretty
much there except for an occasional spike above usually from an
inflamation somewhere.

I'm between doctors. The last one was the silent, nodding, smiling type.

Getting answers from the medical community has been hard and
disappointing.

I'm a screw tightening kinda person and my end goal is a number as low as
possible with an active lifestyle adn a sensible diet. I'm thinking 85 to
105 would be a great range.
Nicky - 06 Mar 2006 12:47 GMT
> Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at
> the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go
> up
> when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads?

Like Alan, I'm interested in the spike, no matter when it happens. I've had
some success with reversing neuropathy; there was a time when I didn't need
my meter to know exactly when my bg went over around the 140 point, because
my feet hurt like hell. For me, this was a very graphic way to tell me what
my limit was, whatever time it occurred!

Nicky.

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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 18:27 GMT
Chief, they say one hour under 140 and two hours under 120 so you are
doing fine.

I concern myself with the two hour period unless I have a piece of pizza
then I test at two and three hours to see if there is a delayed spike.

Loretta

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Chief - 06 Mar 2006 19:43 GMT
Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:27837-440C7F2A-1165
@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net:

> Chief, they say one hour under 140 and two hours under 120 so you are
> doing fine.
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> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.

Hi Loretta,

A "random" blood glucose test taken at any time. A normal blood glucose
range is in the low to mid 100s. A diagnosis of diabetes is made if your
blood glucose reading is 200 mg/dl or higher and you have symptoms of
disease such as fatigue, excessive urination, excessive thirst or
unplanned weight loss.

Is this wrong?

Or this?

A fasting blood glucose test. This test is performed after you have
fasted (no food or liquids other than water) for eight hours. A normal
fasting blood glucose level is less than 110 mg/dl. A diagnosis of
diabetes is made if your blood glucose reading is 126 mg/dl or higher.
(In 1997, the American Diabetes Association lowered the level at which
diabetes is diagnosed to 126 mg/dl from 140 mg/dl.)

It's weird that a common medical problem has so many different treatments
and so many different determining numbers. I'd guess that the profit
motive is at work here much more than it should be.

The whole experience has been a dark comedy so far with unanswered
questions, screwed up billing, stupid arbatrary test strip limits and a
healthcare system more suitable for treating the family pet.

I'd like a doctor that approaches his profession at least as seriously as  
the disease he's treating.

Gene
Julie Bove - 05 Mar 2006 23:01 GMT
> ROFL! Too carby for me for breakfast now. I used to love them spread with
> butter and marmalade.

That reminds me of the version of crepe suzette I used to make on rare
occasions.  I'd make really thin pancakes then put on a mixture of butter
and orange marmalade.  I'd then top them with maple syrup and a squeeze of
lemon.

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W.M.McKee - 05 Mar 2006 18:51 GMT
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
>supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
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>
>Loretta

Loretta, for shame. I had never heard of it until a week, or two ago.
Now you have got me wanting it....

Glad you enjoyed your bit of decadence, but would you mind sharing?
;-)

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:39 GMT
Will send me your address and I will mail two to you.

Loretta

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W.M.McKee - 06 Mar 2006 12:26 GMT
>Will send me your address and I will mail two to you.
>
>Loretta

Hi Loretta,

Check your email. :-)

Will, T2
wmmckee@cox.net - 10 Mar 2006 17:24 GMT
> Will send me your address and I will mail two to you.

Thanks, Loretta!

Guess what's for breakfast tomorrow? I'll let you know how it is.....

Thanks, again. :-)

Will, T2
Jefferson - 05 Mar 2006 20:19 GMT
Hi Loretta:
> I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
> supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks to those who talked about it.  I have a new cereal which I will
> eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-)

About a week after the Weetabix thread, I found it at Trader Joes.  I
didn't buy any though.  http://www.traderjoes.com/locations/index.asp

Frank
Ozgirl - 05 Mar 2006 20:30 GMT
> I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
> supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks to those who talked about it.  I have a new cereal which I will
> eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-)

I eat mine hot. I pour boiling water over it and drain very
quickly, then add cold milk. My kids have cold milk poured
over then microwave til hot.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:44 GMT
Jan, thanks for the suggestion.   I will try it hot tomorrow. I will
save the carbs

Loretta

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Ozgirl - 05 Mar 2006 22:16 GMT
> Jan, thanks for the suggestion.   I will try it hot tomorrow. I will
> save the carbs

I tend to eat mine as an afternoon snack rather than
breakfast. Works better for my bg's then. I also use real
sugar ;)
Alan S - 05 Mar 2006 23:30 GMT
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
>supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Loretta

Glad you liked it:-)
And your 1hr PP was??

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 23:59 GMT
Alan, I dont kjnow the one hour but the two hour was 89.  The way I take
medication, I can do more carbs for breakfast than most people.  I take
one half a mg of amaryl about 6 am

Loretta

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Alan S - 06 Mar 2006 00:32 GMT
>Alan, I dont kjnow the one hour but the two hour was 89.  The way I take
>medication, I can do more carbs for breakfast than most people.  I take
>one half a mg of amaryl about 6 am
>
>Loretta

Thx for answering. Just for fun - check at one hour
tomorrow:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 18:26 GMT
Alan I didnt have weetabix today for breakfast,  the love affair is over
so soon. lol.  Actually I had lox on a one ounce bagel and I was 106 at
1 45 hours.

I am going to have weetabix as an afternoon snack today and will let you
know results at one hour

Loretta

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Sleepyman - 06 Mar 2006 22:57 GMT
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband.  I was in a
>supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle.  I bought
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>
>Loretta
You gave up on the Special K?

Sleepy

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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 23:58 GMT
Sleepy, was I eating special K.  Maybe a couple of years ago,  I like
change in my foods, lol.  I dont like to be bored when I am eating since
I love to eat more than most things in life.

If only I wwas a size two.

Loretta

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