Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006
Wee I found Weetabix
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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 15:58 GMT I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought it. I just had it for breakfast. two biscuits are 24 carbs , I had one biscuit with some cottage cheese and canteloup. How do I love it. I love it from the depth and breath of me. It is fabulous, I crumbled it up in some milk with one splenda and I was in heaven.
Thanks to those who talked about it. I have a new cereal which I will eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-)
Try it if you can, I think you will like it.
Loretta
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Laura@notmy.com - 05 Mar 2006 17:07 GMT >I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a >supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Loretta Loretta! I absolutely love you. Your post just gave me the greatest smile.
Thanks for that.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:35 GMT Laura, if I put a smile on your face, I have had a successful day. Loretta
and having just found out I dont owe any taxes puts a smile on my face.lol
Loretta
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Uncle Enrico - 05 Mar 2006 17:19 GMT I felt the same way when I discovered a low-carb pancake I could eat in the morning.
I recent had a similar experience when I concocted a low carb creamy broccoli cheese soup.
The husband/food comparison had me laughing. It also reminded me that my relationship with food has lasted longer than any romantic relationship I've ever had.
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a > supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:37 GMT Uncle, does that mean you are single. boy do I have a nice girl for you . Isnt that what all the women say when they hear a guy is single. We dont want them to be too happy. hahahahaha
Loretta
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tog - 05 Mar 2006 17:29 GMT Dear Loretta,
I am soo pleased you love Weetabix..(me too)
I used to breed West Highland White Terriers and Weetabix is one of the best weaning foods, twice daily mixed with baby milk.
Nearly forgot, I weaned my daughter on it too. lol
Sue :)
>I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a > supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:37 GMT Sue, a food for all seasons and reasons. Loretta
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Nicky - 05 Mar 2006 18:39 GMT > Thanks to those who talked about it. I have a new cereal which I will > eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-) ROFL! Too carby for me for breakfast now. I used to love them spread with butter and marmalade.
Nicky.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:38 GMT Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in the morning.
Loretta
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Nicky - 05 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT > Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in > the morning. Yes - 6 is my limit. Actually, it might have improved since my DP went away, but I haven't tried rocking any boats! I'm happy with flaxseed porridge or the occasional egg/bacon breakfast.
Nicky.
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Julie Bove - 05 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT > Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in > the morning. It's too much for me. I can only do about 4g. No more. I keep trying to do 1/2 a grapefruit but even that is too much. Now it's pumpkin seeds and a tiny bite of a flavorless raw flax snack.
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Alan S - 05 Mar 2006 23:31 GMT >Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in >the morning. > >Loretta Not Nicky, but that is certainly too much for me. My breakfast limit seems to be about 5gm. Above that and I shoot well over 7(126) at one hour. YMMV.
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Chief - 06 Mar 2006 01:10 GMT >>Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in >>the morning. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go up when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads?
None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance.
Alan S - 06 Mar 2006 01:52 GMT >>>Nicky, are you saying about fifteen twenty carbs are too much for you in >>>the morning. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance. Hi Chief
This is a constant matter of debate here, so I'll just give my personal point of view as a type 2. I stress that point, because what I say may, or may not, be valid for a type 1.
It's not the two-hour or the one-hour that matter - it's the peak. For me that is generally about an hour after I put down my cutlery. For you it may be different and the way to find out is to follow this advice: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
I see the peak post-prandial BGs, whatever their timing, as the most important indicator to me as a self-manager of the effect of my menu and of my management. I use that to assist me in making decisions on changes in my diet, exercise or (with doctor's involvement) medications.
At two hours my BGs have usually come back to "rest" levels - YMMV. My doctor uses those, and my FBGs, lipids and A1c to assess whether he is prescribing correctly for my diabetes.
So to me, the one-hour test helps me directly and the two-hour (or FBG) test helps my doctor help me. I see those who ignore their peak results as using the "ostrich" method of diabetes management, with their heads in the sand (being polite:-) ignoring danger. But that's just my opinion.
Cheers Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Kurt - 06 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT > Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at > the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go up > when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads? > > None of this is retorical but asked out of ignorance. Chief,
Not ignorance at all, just a good question and one that is asked here often. Like many things in here, and with diabetes in general, you're going to get a mix of answers and theories. There may not be a right answer but rather a preferential one based on what you choose to believe. My first response would be to ask you: What does your doctor say your goal numbers are? My second question: What do you feel you want your goal numbers to be? And lastly, I would offer this link from a pretty respectable organization. Keep in mind that it may be advice for the average person with diabetes and not for one who wants to tighten the screws as much as possible.
http://joslin.org/Beginners_guide_523.asp
Best, Kurt
Chief - 06 Mar 2006 19:13 GMT >> Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 >> at the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Best, > Kurt My goal number is below what Jennifer has on her page for now. I'm pretty much there except for an occasional spike above usually from an inflamation somewhere.
I'm between doctors. The last one was the silent, nodding, smiling type.
Getting answers from the medical community has been hard and disappointing.
I'm a screw tightening kinda person and my end goal is a number as low as possible with an active lifestyle adn a sensible diet. I'm thinking 85 to 105 would be a great range.
Nicky - 06 Mar 2006 12:47 GMT > Isn't the two hour the one to be concerned with? I often go above 130 at > the one hour but end up below 110 at the two hour. Don't normal folks go > up > when gorging themselves on potatoes/rice and breads? Like Alan, I'm interested in the spike, no matter when it happens. I've had some success with reversing neuropathy; there was a time when I didn't need my meter to know exactly when my bg went over around the 140 point, because my feet hurt like hell. For me, this was a very graphic way to tell me what my limit was, whatever time it occurred!
Nicky.
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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 18:27 GMT Chief, they say one hour under 140 and two hours under 120 so you are doing fine.
I concern myself with the two hour period unless I have a piece of pizza then I test at two and three hours to see if there is a delayed spike.
Loretta
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Chief - 06 Mar 2006 19:43 GMT Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:27837-440C7F2A-1165 @storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net:
> Chief, they say one hour under 140 and two hours under 120 so you are > doing fine. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Hi Loretta,
A "random" blood glucose test taken at any time. A normal blood glucose range is in the low to mid 100s. A diagnosis of diabetes is made if your blood glucose reading is 200 mg/dl or higher and you have symptoms of disease such as fatigue, excessive urination, excessive thirst or unplanned weight loss.
Is this wrong?
Or this?
A fasting blood glucose test. This test is performed after you have fasted (no food or liquids other than water) for eight hours. A normal fasting blood glucose level is less than 110 mg/dl. A diagnosis of diabetes is made if your blood glucose reading is 126 mg/dl or higher. (In 1997, the American Diabetes Association lowered the level at which diabetes is diagnosed to 126 mg/dl from 140 mg/dl.)
It's weird that a common medical problem has so many different treatments and so many different determining numbers. I'd guess that the profit motive is at work here much more than it should be.
The whole experience has been a dark comedy so far with unanswered questions, screwed up billing, stupid arbatrary test strip limits and a healthcare system more suitable for treating the family pet.
I'd like a doctor that approaches his profession at least as seriously as the disease he's treating.
Gene
Julie Bove - 05 Mar 2006 23:01 GMT > ROFL! Too carby for me for breakfast now. I used to love them spread with > butter and marmalade. That reminds me of the version of crepe suzette I used to make on rare occasions. I'd make really thin pancakes then put on a mixture of butter and orange marmalade. I'd then top them with maple syrup and a squeeze of lemon.
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W.M.McKee - 05 Mar 2006 18:51 GMT >I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a >supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Loretta Loretta, for shame. I had never heard of it until a week, or two ago. Now you have got me wanting it....
Glad you enjoyed your bit of decadence, but would you mind sharing? ;-)
Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:39 GMT Will send me your address and I will mail two to you.
Loretta
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W.M.McKee - 06 Mar 2006 12:26 GMT >Will send me your address and I will mail two to you. > >Loretta Hi Loretta,
Check your email. :-)
Will, T2
wmmckee@cox.net - 10 Mar 2006 17:24 GMT > Will send me your address and I will mail two to you. Thanks, Loretta!
Guess what's for breakfast tomorrow? I'll let you know how it is.....
Thanks, again. :-)
Will, T2
Jefferson - 05 Mar 2006 20:19 GMT Hi Loretta:
> I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a > supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks to those who talked about it. I have a new cereal which I will > eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-) About a week after the Weetabix thread, I found it at Trader Joes. I didn't buy any though. http://www.traderjoes.com/locations/index.asp
Frank
Ozgirl - 05 Mar 2006 20:30 GMT > I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a > supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks to those who talked about it. I have a new cereal which I will > eat everday until I can no longer stand looking at it :-) I eat mine hot. I pour boiling water over it and drain very quickly, then add cold milk. My kids have cold milk poured over then microwave til hot.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 21:44 GMT Jan, thanks for the suggestion. I will try it hot tomorrow. I will save the carbs
Loretta
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Ozgirl - 05 Mar 2006 22:16 GMT > Jan, thanks for the suggestion. I will try it hot tomorrow. I will > save the carbs I tend to eat mine as an afternoon snack rather than breakfast. Works better for my bg's then. I also use real sugar ;)
Alan S - 05 Mar 2006 23:30 GMT >I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a >supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Loretta Glad you liked it:-) And your 1hr PP was??
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Mar 2006 23:59 GMT Alan, I dont kjnow the one hour but the two hour was 89. The way I take medication, I can do more carbs for breakfast than most people. I take one half a mg of amaryl about 6 am
Loretta
-- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
Alan S - 06 Mar 2006 00:32 GMT >Alan, I dont kjnow the one hour but the two hour was 89. The way I take >medication, I can do more carbs for breakfast than most people. I take >one half a mg of amaryl about 6 am > >Loretta Thx for answering. Just for fun - check at one hour tomorrow:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 18:26 GMT Alan I didnt have weetabix today for breakfast, the love affair is over so soon. lol. Actually I had lox on a one ounce bagel and I was 106 at 1 45 hours.
I am going to have weetabix as an afternoon snack today and will let you know results at one hour
Loretta
-- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
Sleepyman - 06 Mar 2006 22:57 GMT >I havent felt this excited since I met my husband. I was in a >supermarket for me and came upon it in their organic aisle. I bought [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Loretta You gave up on the Special K?
Sleepy
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Loretta Eisenberg - 06 Mar 2006 23:58 GMT Sleepy, was I eating special K. Maybe a couple of years ago, I like change in my foods, lol. I dont like to be bored when I am eating since I love to eat more than most things in life.
If only I wwas a size two.
Loretta
-- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
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