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Is Special K Carb Fit being phased out?
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Trinity - 05 Mar 2006 03:02 GMT I'm in Canada, and I've been buying the special K carb fit, but it seems lately that I'm seeing less and less of this product. Is it being phased out? IF it is, then I need to find a comprable cereal to this. It's been kind to my meter. Trinity
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Uncle Enrico - 05 Mar 2006 04:52 GMT Talk to your store manager and see if you can persuade him/her to stock it or explain what 's going on.
Special K low carb (9 grams per serving) is still available in Southern Cal. though they changed the box design a bit.
I am disappoint ed that a low carb "dairy beverage" is no longer being stocked in my store, especially since it tasted great and was kind to my meter--2 grams per cup and tasted just like milk.
> I'm in Canada, and I've been buying the special K carb fit, but it seems > lately that I'm seeing less and less of this product. Is it being phased > out? IF it is, then I need to find a comprable cereal to this. It's been > kind to my meter. > Trinity Jenny - 05 Mar 2006 14:27 GMT > I am disappoint ed that a low carb "dairy beverage" is no longer being > stocked in my store, especially since it tasted great and was kind to my > meter--2 grams per cup and tasted just like milk. Carb Countdown is gone??????
That stinks!
--Jenny
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Chris J. - 05 Mar 2006 19:43 GMT >> I am disappoint ed that a low carb "dairy beverage" is no longer being >> stocked in my store, especially since it tasted great and was kind to my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >That stinks! I get mine from Walmart, still there as of yesterday.
Uncle Enrico - 07 Mar 2006 12:05 GMT Carb Countdown is still available. The product I was talking about was by Heritage Foods. I think it was called Stremick's Carb Conscious...or something like that. It had zero cholesterol and tasted even better than Hood's Carb Countdown.
>> I am disappoint ed that a low carb "dairy beverage" is no longer being >> stocked in my store, especially since it tasted great and was kind to my [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control Jenny - 07 Mar 2006 14:09 GMT > Carb Countdown is still available. The product I was talking about was by > Heritage Foods. I think it was called Stremick's Carb Conscious...or > something like that. It had zero cholesterol and tasted even better than > Hood's Carb Countdown. Must be regional. I haven't seen it.
I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. Their juices, which were decent, are all gone.
The big problem with them, for me, is that they only sell them in a big container that costs $4 or more. The container only lasts about a week. I'm the only person who uses it, so I end up pouring a lot of it down the drain. If they sold it in quarts for $2 I'd buy more of it.
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louisejoi - 07 Mar 2006 15:47 GMT > I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. > Their juices, which were decent, are all gone. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm the only person who uses it, so I end up pouring a lot of it down > the drain. If they sold it in quarts for $2 I'd buy more of it. A lot of the low carb stuff is disappearing. For nondiabetics, low carb was a fad, much as low fat was a fad. Actually a lot of the low carb food that was being marketed was junk food in disguise, anyways. I mean, who needs low carb snack chips? If I want chips, I'll have a few of some really good ones and hop on my treadmill for a while afterwards. I will miss the low carb tortillas if they ever get rid of them...great for pizzas! Don't know about juices because I never much liked them before diagnosis, and now I have a good reason not to drink them. Even restaurants have stopped with the lowcarb menus. I had never had a problem before the low carb craze having restaurants substitute veggies for potatoes, anyways. During the low carb craze, it used to annoy me at one restaurant that you'd have to say "Atkins it" to get substitutions. As if he and his heirs wern't rich enough!
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Evelyn Ruut - 07 Mar 2006 18:54 GMT >> I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. >> Their juices, which were decent, are all gone. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > "Atkins it" to get substitutions. As if he and his heirs wern't rich > enough! There was and still is a lot of hostility when anyone mentions Atkins, an attitude I never understood. For diabetics, low carb products are a need, not a fad.
At some point someone has got to realize that low carb helps diabetics, and since there are new diabetics being diagnosed every day, low carb products will have a market.
But unfortunately, the negative bias towards Atkins and anything that mentions low carb, doesn't help us a bit. I have no prejudice or jealousy that someone made a buck honestly based on good common sense. Unless it is a blatant fake like that Kevin Trudeau who is now selling books since his coral calcium scam fell through.
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louisejoi - 07 Mar 2006 20:18 GMT > There was and still is a lot of hostility when anyone mentions Atkins, an > attitude I never understood. For diabetics, low carb products are a need, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a blatant fake like that Kevin Trudeau who is now selling books since his > coral calcium scam fell through. I agree with much of what you say. However, my problem with the packaged "low carb" foods that have been marketed lately is that it seemed that 95% of them were junk food. And the Atkins brand was one of the big marketers and offenders IMHO.
I have to admit I did try some when it first came out. A lot of that food was so processed it didn't even taste like food to me. Nobody is going to control their weight or diabetes eating a lot of junk food even if it is low carb. I didn't have any trouble finding low carb foods before the craze, and as I said the only thing I'd miss is the low carb tortillas.
If I want to eat say, ice cream, I'd rather eat a small serving of the real thing than a full serving of a brand with sugar alcohols or some other nasty thing that keeps the carbs down. Personally I prefer quality over quantity and I'll portion control.
I'm not having any trouble maintaining my "lower carb" food plan now that the low carb stuff is slowly disappearing from the shelves. There is still plenty of veggies, meats, veggies, fish, veggies, nuts, cheese, whole wheat bread, veggies, etc. in the supermarket.
Remember the song "I Was Country Before Country Was Cool"? Many successful diabetics were low carb before low carb was cool.
And yes I guess I do have a little bit of hostility toward the Atkins empire. When he was just selling his books, I had no problem. But when they started selling junk food packaged as healthy food I had a major problem.
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Jenny - 08 Mar 2006 00:27 GMT > Remember the song "I Was Country Before Country Was Cool"? Many successful > diabetics were low carb before low carb was cool. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they started selling junk food packaged as healthy food I had a major > problem. I'm with you on this. More friends of mine started "low carb" diets during the crazy and got nowhere because they were eating tons of hidden carbs. So they decided "Low carb doesn't work" and they're stuck with their weight problems. Nothing I could tell them would help because they'd say, "Well, it says Atkins on the package, so it has to be okay for the Atkins diet."
Since maltitol does terrible things to my blood sugar and lacitol even worse things to my digestive system, I don't miss most of the low carb products.
But there were a few, wonderful ones that worked, most notably Carb Countdown and the Friendly's Carb Friendly Vanilla ice cream. I'd be sad to see them go. I loved the Carb Countdown orange pineapple juice, too, and it is gone.
--Jenny
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Hi_Therre - 07 Mar 2006 22:28 GMT >>> I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. >>> Their juices, which were decent, are all gone. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >a blatant fake like that Kevin Trudeau who is now selling books since his >coral calcium scam fell through. He may be a dip stick, but he laughed all the way to the bank. I think he sold over a million copies. Those are big bucks. _____________________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free
Alan S - 07 Mar 2006 21:43 GMT was "Is Special K Carb Fit being phased out?"
>A lot of the low carb stuff is disappearing. For nondiabetics, low carb was >a fad, much as low fat was a fad. Actually a lot of the low carb food that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >"Atkins it" to get substitutions. As if he and his heirs wern't rich >enough! Hi All
Some musing aloud on foods.
Most of the "low-carb" products that those in the Northern Hemisphere talk about never made it to our supermarket shelves; ours groan under the weight of products labelled "99% fat-free" and similar. I only once consciously tried a low-carb ice-cream - which tasted bloody terrible.
Very early in my project to extend and improve Alan's life I realised that it was far simpler, safer and tastier (most important, that last one) to use normal foods but just use less of them to achieve the aim. I also realised that the best way to ensure nothing was hidden in it that might sneak up on me was to avoid processed foods and cook most of the rest myself.
So, if I liked a food but the fat content was too high for good health - I turned it into a taste instead of a snack, or a snack instead of a meal. If the carb content spiked me when I tested - same thing. And if Quentin said it was good for me - I added it. If I didn't like it - I found ways to cook or prepare it that I could eat.
It's amazing what you can learn to like once you realise that your life depends on it. This morning's breakfast was a broccoli/capsicum/cabbage/salmon/cheese one-egg frittata. Before I started this - you would only have found the egg and cheese in my fridge and I'd have been eating cereal with milk, toast and marmalade, juice and coffee for breakfast. And wondering why I never felt very well in the mornings.
Buy ordinary simple foods, folks. Use your own kitchen to make them more complex. And, when Quentin assembles his collection of past threads - read it. That doesn't mean you have to wear a hair shirt. I eat well at home, I still eat out weekly, I still eat fast foods once every couple of weeks, but I'm very, very selective as to where I eat out and which fast foods.
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Chris J. - 08 Mar 2006 02:58 GMT >That doesn't mean you >have to wear a hair shirt. I eat well at home Alan, I initially read the above as "That doesn't mean you have to wear a hair shirt. I eat those at home."
Well, that would be one way to get enough fiber, I suppose...
And slightly more appetizing than a pie floater, too. :-)
Alan S - 08 Mar 2006 08:53 GMT >>That doesn't mean you >>have to wear a hair shirt. I eat well at home [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >And slightly more appetizing than a pie floater, too. :-) You've obviously never had a pie floater mate. I probably never will again either - but because of the carbs, not the flavour:-)
One of my pet aversions is finding a hair in my food. That's enough to leave a restaurant for me. Very off-putting.
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Chris J. - 08 Mar 2006 10:07 GMT >>>That doesn't mean you >>>have to wear a hair shirt. I eat well at home [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >never will again either - but because of the carbs, not the >flavour:-) I eat all sorts of odd combos, so I probably wouldn't mind the taste as long as they left off the ketchup. The carbs, fats, etc, I think I'd best avoid, so no pie floaters for me. :-)
Ironic, really, that here I am, making jokes about your pie floaters, when I've just gotten back from a restaurant that specializes in BBQ, and their house special is BBQ'd rattler. I've had it once, it's not something I'm fond off, and it is close to chicken.
W. Baker - 08 Mar 2006 20:28 GMT : >You've obviously never had a pie floater mate. I probably : >never will again either - but because of the carbs, not the : >flavour:-)
: I eat all sorts of odd combos, so I probably wouldn't mind the taste : as long as they left off the ketchup. The carbs, fats, etc, I think : I'd best avoid, so no pie floaters for me. :-)
: Ironic, really, that here I am, making jokes about your pie floaters, : when I've just gotten back from a restaurant that specializes in BBQ, : and their house special is BBQ'd rattler. I've had it once, it's not : something I'm fond off, and it is close to chicken. Something form one of us who live in Morthern climes.
I know what a rattler is, but what is a pie floater? Doe the pie float on soem liqui, or does some liquid si inside a pie with something (Keetchup?0 floating on it? Somehow knowing what it is is not intuitive for me.
Other speculations: a drink with a crust on top A pie made in a spring form pan with a water bath tht is totally soggy on the bottom. A frisby floating in the bathtub.
I could go on for hours like this. Wendy
Alan S - 09 Mar 2006 00:08 GMT >: >You've obviously never had a pie floater mate. I probably >: >never will again either - but because of the carbs, not the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Wendy Hi Wendy
I hope you're not eating at the moment.
I was going to give a description - but found this one on the web. Chris probably agrees with his final para:-) http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000536.html
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Nicky - 09 Mar 2006 13:14 GMT > I know what a rattler is, but what is a pie floater? Doe the pie float on > soem liqui, or does some liquid si inside a pie with something (Keetchup?0 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the bottom. > A frisby floating in the bathtub. It's too awful to be guessed : )
Nicky.
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Anil - 08 Mar 2006 03:23 GMT Here is more muse to Alan's own. I am with Alan. Discovering new things that actually test down right delicious and great for a Diabetes is one of my pleasures. My standard morning breakfast food is overnight soaked raw penults. To soak them well you have to get them with the skin intact. These are standard staple items in Indian grocery stores. But ever since I have been dxed I have been eating them by pounds so we have started bulk ordering on internet. Works great! Its ridiculously cheap (Approx $1.00 a pound).
Soaked peanuts with skin give me plenty to chew on. I munch them as often I feel like throughout the day. No salt, No sugar tastes just perfect food for a Diabetes. Plenty of plant based proteins very little carb. Never spikes me even when I have a handful.
For those who have not seen the peanuts with skin: See the Ref: http://tinyurl.com/hdr78
Anil
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Trinity - 07 Mar 2006 23:05 GMT >>I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. >>Their juices, which were decent, are all gone. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > "Atkins it" to get substitutions. As if he and his heirs wern't rich > enough! I agree that there have been pretty crappy products boasting low carb, but there have been a few good ones i.e. Special K carb fit. It is too bad that some are disappearing. :( Trinity
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W. Baker - 08 Mar 2006 20:32 GMT : >>I'm afraid it is only a matter of time until Carb Countdown disappears. : >>Their juices, which were decent, are all gone. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] : bad that some are disappearing. :( : Trinity For me both the low carb tortillas/wraps, and the low carb pita have been aboon for me. It enables me to have "pizza" or a sanwich or a hot dog on a roll (hal a pita). this makes my lunches much happier.
I alsolike the low carb breads, not so much for themselves, but to use as french toast with the totally artificial syrup.
Wendy
Joe - 05 Mar 2006 15:41 GMT > Talk to your store manager and see if you can persuade him/her to stock it > or explain what 's going on. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > stocked in my store, especially since it tasted great and was kind to my > meter--2 grams per cup and tasted just like milk. Thats a bummer. The wife and I use it all the time. If they ever stop stocking Hood by me, how will I get my pudding fix? lol
>> I'm in Canada, and I've been buying the special K carb fit, but it seems >> lately that I'm seeing less and less of this product. Is it being phased >> out? IF it is, then I need to find a comprable cereal to this. It's been >> kind to my meter. >> Trinity
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Michael - 05 Mar 2006 05:47 GMT > I'm in Canada, and I've been buying the special K carb fit, but it seems > lately that I'm seeing less and less of this product. Is it being phased > out? IF it is, then I need to find a comprable cereal to this. It's been > kind to my meter. > Trinity In the states, it appears they're renaming the product "Special K Protein Plus". Same bat carbs, same bat protein.
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