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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Guess what my GC level was after French Toast with Syrup?
I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit crappy. I took my byetta and metformin (1000 mg) with the Byetta shot before I ate it. I was feeling a bit nauseous and figured well hell, I just ate probably the worst breakfast possible, so yeah, mny sugar level is goona be quite high. Was figuring on it being 250 or more. So I just took my blood and it is 95. Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ >I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup >(cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > So I just took my blood and it is 95. You would have been feeling crappy because you had a high peak around the 60-90 minute mark ( or sooner depending on how you fried it) and then crashed. Nicky.  SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup >(cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I was feeling a bit nauseous and figured well hell, I just ate probably > the worst breakfast possible, very possible. >so yeah, mny sugar level is goona be quite high. Was figuring on it being >250 or more. for me with out medications.. very possible > So I just took my blood and it is 95. a perfect example that you cant use only your meter to tell if a food is ok to eat. just because you got a 95 doesnt mean it was a healthy meal. > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ not telling you to take or not to take it David these are just my thoughts. ok, Byetta isn't a miracle drug......<-- you did say for someone to tell you :). but seriously. Would a drug that made cigarettes taste like candy for someone trying to quit be thought of as a miracle drug? for me exercise would probably do just as good as the drug. SignatureTom Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow Information you can trust from the diabetes experts... Your American Diabetes Association http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index ADA's Diabetes Learning Center http://diabetes.org/about-diabetes.jsp Joslin Center Beginner's Guide. http://www.joslin.org/Beginners_guide.asp Pictures of My motorcycle and I think 2 of my doggies. http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com.50megs.com/photo.html > I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup > (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ Maybe it's a miracle, or maybe you haven't digested your meal yet. Test in another hour or two. Byetta keeps your stomach from emptying and slows digestion. You may end up with a "pizza effect" where you don't see those carbs until some hours after you'd expect to see them. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control GOOD POINT, Jenny I have been fooled more than once by that same "pizza/Byetta" effect - 2 h 90's, 3-4 h 150 or worse. > GOOD POINT, Jenny > I have been fooled more than once by that same "pizza/Byetta" effect - > 2 h 90's, 3-4 h 150 or worse. Me too--without Byetta. Dreamfields Pasta being a case in point. I only found its peak when I tested at some odd time very late in the evening when I never usually test. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control > I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup > (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ Sounds more like you crashed after a severe spike. Where were you at one hour? Priscilla As a Type II, I do the same thing with insulin and metformin for a fraction of the cost, and no nausea!!! >I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup >(cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ > I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup > (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ So... You're telling us that it allows you to overeat on junky food and that's a miracle? I don't think so. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm :: I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple :: Syrup (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] :: :: Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ Yeah, it's a miracle drug that will end up with you becoming blind, losing a leg, or dying early. Just keep on with the FT/MS for breakfast.... >Yeah, it's a miracle drug that will end up with you becoming blind, losing a >leg, or dying early. Just keep on with the FT/MS for breakfast.... Occasional FT with MS is OK. Just count the carbs and take your short-acting insulin accordingly. (Type 1) > >Yeah, it's a miracle drug that will end up with you becoming blind, losing a > >leg, or dying early. Just keep on with the FT/MS for breakfast.... > > > Occasional FT with MS is OK. Just count the carbs and take your > short-acting insulin accordingly. (Type 1) If you were bemoaning the fact you couldn't eat your favourite foods any more, or at least n quantity, might you not be tempted to take Byetta and eat like there was no tomorrow? >If you were bemoaning the fact you couldn't eat your >favourite foods any more, or at least n quantity, might you >not be tempted to take Byetta and eat like there was no >tomorrow? I don't think Byetta is indicated for Type 1? >>If you were bemoaning the fact you couldn't eat your >>favourite foods any more, or at least n quantity, might you >>not be tempted to take Byetta and eat like there was no >>tomorrow? > > I don't think Byetta is indicated for Type 1? But we are discussing Byetta. No, because eating like there is no tomorrow will just make ya fatter...... But an occasional treat I see nothing whatsoever wrong with. >> >Yeah, it's a miracle drug that will end up with you > becoming blind, losing a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > not be tempted to take Byetta and eat like there was no > tomorrow? I did the occasional treat thing yesterday. Dunno why, but hopefully it won't happen again for several months. :-) -- Cheri David B. wrote in message ... >No, because eating like there is no tomorrow will just make ya fatter...... > >But an occasional treat I see nothing whatsoever wrong with. Wow, that is amazing. I hope you are feeling better. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. Felling good. I had a little regular soda which brought the sugar level back up to normal. Normal for me is about 105. > Wow, that is amazing. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. >I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup >(cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ Just a suspicion - because I know very little about Byetta - but I'd suspect your 95 was the point you passed through between something much higher to something lower. There was a reason why you were feeling crappy. Why eat such a terrible breakfast anyway? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Cause "I felt like it". I'm not going to let this disease control my life. I watch what I eat, but am not a low carb nut. I checked my blood at 10:45 and ate breakfast at about 8:30 so that was a bit over 2 hours. Didn't check it later. But I'd guarantee that without the byetta and with actos and metformin which I was on before that my sugar wouldn't have gotten under 170 for quite a while. >>I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup >>(cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. > d&e, metformin 2x500mg >Cause "I felt like it". >I'm not going to let this disease control my life. I watch what I eat, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I was on before that my sugar wouldn't have gotten under 170 for quite a >while. I think you're quite right about the numbers and the meds; what you don't know is what they were at 9:30 and 11:30 with them. I don't let it rule my life either - despite what some may think. And I'm certainly not a "low carb nut". I would accept the description of "low BG spike nut":-) However, I reckon I got away with 55 years of "doing what I felt like" in the menu department. Now I'd like to add a few more years to the 59 I've reached, so I'm prepared to accept some limitations to the menu. If you wander over to an old thread called "What I ate Today" I think you'll find many of us are not wasting away to shadows. We each have our different goals. I have no doubt that yours are right for you. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Cause "I felt like it". > I'm not going to let this disease control my life. Keep eating like that and I bet your diabetes will control your life. It's a fast track to losing the beta cells. I watch what I eat, but > am not a low carb nut. > I checked my blood at 10:45 and ate breakfast at about 8:30 so that was a > bit over 2 hours. Didn't check it later. > But I'd guarantee that without the byetta and with actos and metformin which > I was on before that my sugar wouldn't have gotten under 170 for quite a > while. I bet also, because meds aren't a magic pill. I think you may live to regret using Byetta in an inappropriate manner. >Cause "I felt like it". >I'm not going to let this disease control my life. I watch what I eat, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I was on before that my sugar wouldn't have gotten under 170 for quite a >while. I used to love French toast and syrup, too. My way of "cheating" and having it occasionally is to change the recipe slightly. As it turned out, the syrup I was using prior to Dx is sugar free (no carb) so that part was ok. All that left was the bread. I used low-carb bread instead, and my regular recipe (eggs, cinnamon, etc). Just a suggestion if you want to try it. > I used to love French toast and syrup, too. My way of "cheating" and > having it occasionally is to change the recipe slightly. As it turned [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > regular recipe (eggs, cinnamon, etc). Just a suggestion if you want to > try it. That's what I do, too, although I mix a little real maple syrup in with the fake. Eggs, cream, vanilla, low-carb bread, fried in ghee. Good stuff. Priscilla > That's what I do, too, although I mix a little real maple syrup in with > the fake. Eggs, cream, vanilla, low-carb bread, fried in ghee. Good > stuff. I bought some maple extract, and add it to the SF stuff to make it richer, more maple-y. Atkins brand tastes more like maple than DaVinci, which was very weak. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > richer, more maple-y. Atkins brand tastes more like maple than DaVinci, > which was very weak. I have a problem with aftertaste on all but Nature's Hollow, which is sweetened with Xylitol. I don't use all *that* much or eat it that often, so I don't have any GI effects from it. Priscilla > I have a problem with aftertaste on all but Nature's Hollow, which is > sweetened with Xylitol. I don't use all *that* much or eat it that > often, so I don't have any GI effects from it. > > Priscilla We've had really good luck with xylitol in my house; no GI effects no matter how much we have. I think I have the syrup about once a year, but when I do, I really want it to taste like maple. Susan :: Cause "I felt like it". :: I'm not going to let this disease control my life. I watch what I :: eat, but am not a low carb nut. Exactly what the disease wants you to do. Play right along with it. :: I checked my blood at 10:45 and ate breakfast at about 8:30 so that :: was a bit over 2 hours. Didn't check it later. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] ::: -- ::: Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. A major drug company is coming out this fall with a drug like Byetta which will be orally admin once a day and will also help restore the beta cells. And you heard it first from me here................ > :: Cause "I felt like it". > :: I'm not going to let this disease control my life. I watch what I [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > ::: -- > ::: Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. :: A major drug company is coming out this fall with a drug like Byetta :: which will be orally admin once a day and will also help restore the :: beta cells. Do you work for this company? If not, how do you know? :: And you heard it first from me here................ :: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] :::::: -- :::::: Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > :: A major drug company is coming out this fall with a drug like Byetta > :: which will be orally admin once a day and will also help restore the > :: beta cells. > > Do you work for this company? If not, how do you know? The once a day drug that works on the incretin hormones like Byetta has been written up quite a lot in the medical press. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control > I had for breakfast this morning 4 pieces of French Toast with Maple Syrup > (cinnamon sugar on top of the toast too) and 2 hours later was feeling a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now you tell me that Byetta isn't a miracle drug................ The miracle is that it allowed you to eat like you probably did before diagnosis. In other words it is assisting you in not changing lifestyle. It "may" be helping your bg control but it certainly won't do you any favours regarding other health problems that may arise out of eating badly. And this constant onslaught of high carb foods on your pancreas will only help it to die a lot quicker. Then you will have insulin shots to contend with as well. I think Byetta could well become the magic pill (short term) for those who won't make any changes. |
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