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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / March 2006Ping Ted about Judanne
Ted, Have you actually had an email conversation with this individual? Did you find anything that led you to believe this person is in fact a diabetic and not just another one of the dozens of mad betty markle sock puppets that have popped up? They may have made the mistake of buying into the hype and thinking they were actually doing us a favor. But I am curious if you have actually had the email conversation this person claims.  SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. > Ted, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But I am curious if you have actually had the email conversation this > person claims. I'm not Ted, but if you do a search on her name, as I did, you'll see that she posted anti-Aspartame stuff back in Nov. It went over just as well as it did now. She did post some other things, mostly in OT threads. I didn't check those messages. But I well remember her name and I remember tangling with her before. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm Darling, If I'd "tangled" with you, I'm sure I would have remembered it. Judanne >> Ted, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > tangling > with her before. On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:43:39 GMT, "Julie Bove" <julienospambove@verizon.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >> Ted, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >check those messages. But I well remember her name and I remember tangling >with her before. I'm always willing to give someone a chance. But this one made a claim about having had more than one email with Ted. And I'm interested in Ted's take on it. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. > On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:43:39 GMT, "Julie Bove" > <julienospambove@verizon.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > claim about having had more than one email with Ted. And I'm > interested in Ted's take on it. No, she is just one of Betty's trolls - a little smoother than most, but she is here to "informer" us. The Gariian (as usual) is simply quoting one of it's favorite quacks - wo has a long record of racist and quack publications. >> I'm always willing to give someone a chance. But this one made a >> claim about having had more than one email with Ted. And I'm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The Gariian (as usual) is simply quoting one of it's favorite quacks - > wo has a long record of racist and quack publications. Having lost timely access to USENET for awhile, I have just recently been following these threads. I would like to let Ted, Mack, and Julie know that I have "met" Judanne in some Yahoo Mail Groups for Transplant recipients and donors, as well as the newsgroup bit.listserv.transplant. Judanne is definetly not one of Betty's trolls, and I doubt seriously whether she even knew who are what you were talking about when you accused her of being one. I don't think I have been considered a Betty or Murray supporter, so I think I should be given some slack in my assessment here. Was Judanne naive in posting something to this group about aspartame that she got from the Guardian via an Australian news source? Probably. However, I didn't know how unreliable a news source the Guardian is myself until Ted and Beav pointed it out, except that the Guardian was an unquestioning supporter of Marxist-Leninist organizations in the 1970's (long story on how I know that). Judanne acquired prednisone induced Type 2 diabetes in the summer of 2005 after an altruistic, non-related, living donor kidney transplant in Australia. She and her donor had a fight getting the transplant approved, and they both received some press in Australia. Most transplant boards do not believe in the concept of altruistic transplants between unrelated donors and recipients due the suspicion that money must be changing hands under the table. A billionaire in Australia got one when his pilot and long time friend donated a kidney. Since her initially high levels of immunosuppressants have been reduced over time, her diabetes has become more under control. Maybe that is what she meant by "all I need to know after six months" of reading the group. Hell, if I wasn't carrying an extra 20 kg post-transplant maybe my diabetes would be under better control than an A1c of 6.8 ;-) Judanne's story was easily available through Google: judanne+australian+kidney+transplant http://www.examiner.com.au/print.asp?id=277737 http://www.pahealthsystems.com/message409902.html Dennis (Type 2, Kidney Transplant 1995) <snip> > Having lost timely access to USENET for awhile, I have just recently > been following these threads. I would like to let Ted, Mack, and Julie [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > whether she even knew who are what you were talking about when you > accused her of being one. <snip> Okay. Thanks for that. I'll back off. Sorry Judanne. I'm just hypersensitive over this whole Aspartame thing because an anti-aspartame person once spammed my inbox so many times that I could no longer access it. My ISP had to take control of my computer for two days so they could catch him, and they prosecuted him. I was not the only person this happened to. I'm pretty sure he did this to Ted, and I'm not sure who all else. But it was several of us. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I'm pretty sure he did this to Ted, and I'm not sure who all else. But it > was several of us. I find it hard to believe She exhibits typical Aspartame troll behavior, and this is not the first time she tried it !! She has also been sending me posts accusing me of attacking another person (who I had never heard of) in other newsgroups (which I have never read). Her friend who I supposedly attacked seems to be a troll also, and looks suspiciously like one who was here under a different name last year = pushing Stevia ! No I didn't. I asked him IF he was the same person. And Rob Schuh is certainly NOT my friend. Get it right, Ted. Here is the copy of the email I sent ----Original Message----- From: Judanne [mailto:judanne@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2006 7:41 AM To: 'Ted Rosenberg' Subject: Question for you When I woke up this morning I remembered where I knew your name from. Aren't you the same Ted (or Teddy as you were then) that used to have those wonderful screaming matches on Usenet with Rob Schuh? Didn't you take him to court? Didn't you lose? If so, congratulations! You're the first person I ever kill filed twice. You used to send me emails telling me ad nauseum your side of the story and what a lovely chap you were and what a horror Rob was (he certainly wasn't pleasant) and you just wouldn't stop. Now I understand your rabid character. It certainly hasn't changed. Does Betty know this, too, or are you convinced, now, that I am who I say I am? I had the same name then, too. Judanne >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > suspiciously like one who was here under a different name last year = > pushing Stevia ! On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:11:27 -0500, Dennis R <dennis.rekuta@sympatico.ca> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >>> I'm always willing to give someone a chance. But this one made a >>> claim about having had more than one email with Ted. And I'm [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Dennis (Type 2, Kidney Transplant 1995) I am glad the kidney transplant worked. I am sorry she didn't learn from the experience and still found it in her to wish a fellow diabetic dead. I hope the kidney continues to function for her so that she can at least learn one lesson in life. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. > But I am curious if you have actually had the email conversation this > person claims. See below: Oh dear Ted, You are SUCH an angry man. That's not good for you. I'd love to know what ":PPK a.shole" means but asking that would mean you'd have to write back again. You said, "You didn't just "find" a newspaper article about a "study" by an infamous racist and fraud, and "happen " to bring your crap into our Newsgroup" You are correct. I didn't find it, it found me. It came into my inbox and I thought, "Ooh, that needs sharing". Why didn't you just tell me in the first place that you thought that the researcher was racist and a fraud and then direct me to some evidence to support your conviction? You realise though, this means that the University that conducted the research is also by definition racist and fraudulent for supporting the research programme and if that's the case, I don't think I believe you on that one as they wouldn't risk their reputation in allowing the results to be published if it were so. And you are also right as I didn't "happen" to bring it into our newsgroup, I chose to. I thought that sharing information was part of the group's function (something that you seem to be woefully inadequate about doing). Now Ted, you've made it very clear that you don't agree with any information that casts any sort of doubt on Aspartame and that's your prerogative. But it is NOT your prerogative to abuse me (or anyone else) because I don't share your view. So just give your spleen a rest now and don't bother writing again because you obviously don't have an intelligent bone in your body and it's useless trying to talk any sense to you. (Translation: f.ck off and die) Judanne -----Original Message----- From: Ted Rosenberg [mailto:theodore.rosenberg@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ted Rosenberg Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2006 12:54 AM To: Judanne Subject: Re: Aspartame etc. :PPK a.shole take your frauds and go away NO, our constitution does not allow "freedom of speech". Frauds like you arn't covered. We have freedom of POLITICAL speech, and even that has limits. Go back to Betty fuckwit. Judanne wrote: > Hi Ted, >I still don't get it. Whoever Betty is, it sounds like she's trying > to give you info that will protect your health. Of course, no one can > make you read it, so whether you agree or don't doesn't really matter. > I'm assuming that you live in the U.S. Isn't there an amendment to > your constitution that allows freedom of speech? So what's wrong with > expressing an opinion? You have no trouble in expressing yours. > By the way, in attacking me you are only shooting the messenger. I > didn't write either the newspaper article, or do the research. Why > not read the article to find out who did both and then have a > discussion with them? Makes more sense than venting to me, because I > can't change either the newspaper article or the research - which > can't be called "fraud" simply because you don't agree with it. > You still didn't say why this makes you so angry. > Judanne > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Rosenberg" > <tedrosenberg@iname.com> > To: "Judanne" <judanne@bigpond.net.au> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: Aspartame & food colorings may produce nerve damage >> RIGHT >> Momma Betty's Aspartame trolls and Stevia frauds are not welcome on >> the diabetic groups (or most places_) so go back to Betty, and tell >> her that we don't buy her fraud >> Judanne wrote: >>> Who is Betty? What is fraudulent about posting a newspaper article? >>> Why are you angry about it? >>> Judanne >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ted Rosenberg [mailto:theodore.rosenberg@gmail.com] On Behalf >>> Of Ted Rosenberg >>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2006 9:39 AM >>> To: Judanne >>> Subject: Re: Aspartame & food colorings may produce nerve damage >>> Well a.shole, if you are NOT Betty, stop acting like her. >>> Now, what part of f.ck OFF FRAUD don't you understand? >>> Judanne wrote: >>>> Hi Ted, >>>> I think you may be slightly confused, my name isn't Betty. >>>> Judanne >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ted Rosenberg [mailto:theodore.rosenberg@gmail.com] On Behalf >>>> Of ted rosenberg >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:37 AM >>>> To: Judanne >>>> Subject: Re: Aspartame & food colorings may produce nerve damage >>>> Judanne wrote: >>>> <troll droppingts snipped> >>>> Go f.ck yourself Betty > (Translation: f.ck off and die) > >Judanne that pretty much sums up your character. you received an email spam, and without verifying any of it's claims you reposted it here as if it were 100% valid. Then when brought to task on it, you wished a known diabetic to die. and you expect to be greeted with open arms and thanked for your contribution to the group. right. you shot yourself in the foot on that one all by yourself. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. <snip> I'd love to know what ":PPK a.shole" means but asking that would mean you'd have to write back again. <snip> That's easy. It stands for Phenylketonutrics. This is a test done at birth and those who have this know this from birth. They can't have Phenylalinine so for them, Aspartame is not something they can have. There is a warning on every can of diet soda that contains Aspartame. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm |
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