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Go f.ck yourself Betty

The same study also determined that apartame and food coloring
spammers my cause bullshit. Watch where you step.

BJ

To all who have responded:

I am astounded at your attitudes.  I don't understand your intolerance and
your personal attacks. Instead of attacking me as you have done, why didn't
you just tell me in the first post that you don't consider the Guardian
newspaper to be reputable or that you don't think the researcher is
reputable?  I must say that I don't know of  the researcher and although I
have heard of the Guardian I have never read it.  Why not just INFORM ME (in
a nice manner) which is, after all, what this newsgroup is meant to do,
isn't it?  I mean, as you may have gathered by now, that's what I was trying
to do, inform you all of a potential problem.

I stopped subscribing to this newsgroup precisely because of this sort of
reactive, intolerant reaction to other people's posts.  I found out what I
needed to know about diabetes (after being newly diagnosed in July last
year) and then got out.  I posted this info because I thought you lot should
know about this research.

You know, there is a very easy way for you to avoid feeling anger,
intolerance, etc.  Don't click on the link if you don't want to know.  And
if you don't agree with the article (and I'm assuming you've read it and not
had a knee-jerk reaction to the dreaded word "Aspartame"), don't shoot the
messenger, take it up with the newspaper that printed it, or the researchers
at the University of Liverpool, or the University itself for allowing this
sort of research to go on - and then let them know that you don't agree and
submit YOUR research to them to prove them wrong.

No point attacking me, I can't influence either the researchers or the
publishers, but you can.

Its very sad, seeing such intolerance, very sad, so here's an Australian
expression for you. "Pull your head in".

Judanne

I bet if they conducted a trial they'd find reading this group causes
brain damage....who the f.ck cares...EVERYTHING causes something...big
f.cking deal !!

Hi All,

I just wanted to say thanks for giving me so much to think and puzzle over
in the last couple of days.  It's been an enlightening experience in
communication.

First off I have to apologise for unintentionally misleading you all.  When
I did a search for the article in question on ABC Health Updates, it wasn't
there.  I remembered last night that it had actually come from a friend of
mine who is a health professional in Victoria.  There was no intent to
deceive, just a lapse of memory.

Thanks to Alan for taking the time to offer constructive criticism and
advice and for gently pointing out the cultural mistakes I had made when
posting to this group.  Forgive me if I don't follow it.  After much thought
last night and this morning I've decided, why bother to try and reason with
the unreasonable?  People who have a good reading comprehension will
understand the article; those that don't, won't.  No amount of introductions
or explanations will change that.

I'm disappointed that, apart from OzGirl, no one has discussed the CONTENT
of the article or how that information can impact on them as diabetics.  To
me, this was the sole reason for posting the link.  For those that haven't
yet read the article it DOESN'T attack Aspartame, instead it warns against
combining it with certain food colourings because this has caused nerve
damage in lab mice - in much the same way that some articles warn against
combining certain drugs because they can cause an adverse reaction (like
Prednisolone and Prograf combining in me to produce diabetes).

For the people who went on the attack, may I suggest you read "I'm O.K. -
You're O.K." or something similar and then go for some counselling to break
out of the destructive Drama Triangle that you seem to exist in at the
moment.  I used to be there, too, but more as a Rescuer than Victim or
Oppressor so there is hope (but obviously I haven't grown completely out of
that role otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to post).

Ted, as well as the above, I'm concerned about your lack of being able to
string a coherent sentence together and your fuzzy logic.  I saw that you
had complained elsewhere that I asked if you were a person called Teddy whom
I had dealings with before.  I thought you were him because you have the
same name, the same language skills and the same Victim attitude.  However I
didn't insist time after time (as you did) that you WERE that person, I didn't
abuse you (as you did) for BEING that person and I didn't repeatedly swear
at you (as you did), although I did stoop that low once because, based on
your own language skills, I thought that you would understand that
expression better than 'please don't continue writing to me'.  So - why is
that o.k. for you to do, but not o.k. for me?  (Please don't answer!!! Just
consider it.)

As to the majority of you, thanks for your wonderful help and assistance in
getting a handle on diabetes when I was a "newbie".  Luckily for me that
stage of my life seems to be over, or close to it.  Now that my transplant
and meds are stable I'm taking advantage of my new life and have just
completed my first week of a 5 year course in Architecture.  I'll be 57 by
the time I finish and 59 by the time I'm accredited, if I get that far.
This is something I've wanted to do since I was in my 20's but never had the
opportunity before so I'm going for it now.  I'm just worried about my
stamina (or, more precisely, lack of it).

Don't think, though, that I'm leaving permanently.  As I've done in the
past, if I come across some information that I think should be shared, I'll
share it (maybe next time with a précis of what it's about) as I believe
that the more information we share, the better we can manage our own lives.
Next time, though, I won't respond to the trolls.  LOL

So long and thanks for the fish.

Judanne