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gary - 27 Feb 2006 22:58 GMT
Good day all..

just got back from the Dr. office and found out the good news.  He did
confirm that I am a type 2, my A1c was 11.9 in Dec,  it is now 5.9...
made me feel like it is worth it. Found out I was a diabetic when I got
rushed to the hospital with a BG of 810 in November. Been using a
treadmill every day,  staying on my diet...Lost 55lbs so far,   and my
bg has been averaging 86.  I have learned allot from all of you and I
just wanted to say thank you.....

Gary Maines
Loretta Eisenberg - 27 Feb 2006 23:03 GMT
Gary, I have had a crummy day and I want to thank you for sharing this
good news.  It has brightened my spirits.  I am so happy for you.  This
proves that there is life after diabetes diagnosis.

Congratulations,  a job well done.

Loretta

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Kurt - 27 Feb 2006 23:10 GMT
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> treadmill every day,  staying on my diet...Lost 55lbs so far,   and my
> bg has been averaging 86.

That is great news, Gary!  Congrats and keep up the good work.

Best,
Kurt
Peter G. (Bigbird) - 27 Feb 2006 23:13 GMT
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Wow! That's impressive. Way to go Gary.

PCG
Jenny - 27 Feb 2006 23:24 GMT
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All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!

Was your doctor amazed at your progress?

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Grandpa Chuck - 27 Feb 2006 23:33 GMT
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Gary that is fantastic news. I don't know if I have ever seen anyone
have a turn around that fast before. Keep doing what you have been and
be sure to tell us about it.

You serve as a very good inspiration to the rest of us.
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wmmckee@cox.net - 28 Feb 2006 00:09 GMT
> ust got back from the Dr. office and found out the good news.  He did
> confirm that I am a type 2, my A1c was 11.9 in Dec,  it is now 5.9...
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> bg has been averaging 86.  I have learned allot from all of you and I
> just wanted to say thank you.....

That is simply wonderful news, Gary! Keep it up.

Will, T2
Anil - 28 Feb 2006 00:12 GMT
Jeeze Gary what the hell are you eating?? Or more like not eating!

That is one heck of a progress. You do need to spill your beans here
now. Can you share some of the vital stats starting with your age, FBG,
2 hr 1h numbers. What kind of excessive regimen you follow? What
medication?  This is not to take away any of the kudos you so richly
deserve but just so some of us can get some ideas on top of the
encouragement we get when we see positive results like yours.

All I can say keep it up man. You journey has started with a bang.
Don't get discouraged with a few set backs here and there.

Good job!

Anil
gary - 28 Feb 2006 00:58 GMT
thanks a million...  my FBG is averaging between 90-101.  I am 54 years
young.  my weight in Nov 05 was 368,  It is now 310. I have been
taking some numbers an hour and then 2 hrs after a meal.  Like
yesterday, before lunch it was 90, 1 hour later it was 91 and 2 hrs.
later it was 80.   I have done this just a few times and it is about
the same.  As for exercise, I have been walking everyday for 1/2 hour
on my treadmill doing 2.5 mph.. As for meds.. I take lantis  (please
excuse spelling) 30 units in the evening, and Novolog before each meal.
12,12,16 units in that order.  and I take 2 ea 500mg of Metaformin 2
times a day. The medical clinic I go to has a great diabetic center. I
meet with the nutrition specialist and trying to get the right mix of
proteins,fat,and carbs right...So far everything is working... I do not
eat any sweets or things I should not, and the only snack I do indulge
in is crackers with peanut butter with 8 oz of non fat milk.  Plus,
this site has been a huge help to me.  I felt depressed for about 18
hours when I was told I was a Diabetic. but then said heck with it, I
have no one but me to blame and I have been trying to find ot as much
as I can.  To be honest with you. I have not felt this good in years...

thanks for all the advise everone....

Gary Maines
Sleepyman - 28 Feb 2006 02:02 GMT
>To be honest with you. I have not felt this good in years...
>
>thanks for all the advise everone....
>
>Gary Maines

And there is no reason you can't feel better and better.....

One thing to beware of is setting yourself up for a fall.
At some point you will probably have a slip up whether it be food,
exercise or med wise. We ALL have them. Don't let it get you down just
move on and try not to do it again.

Sleepy

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gary - 28 Feb 2006 19:09 GMT
I am aware of "bad days"  but what keeps me focused is how I found out
I was a Diabetic,   by going to the hopital in an ambulance, and not
caring if I lived or died for 2 days.  I have never felt that bad in my
life.... I never want to go through that ever again... If that means
eating right, exercising and the right combination of meds.  I will do
it...

and your right.... there is no reason I can't feel better and better...

Gary
Patti - 01 Mar 2006 06:51 GMT
> hours when I was told I was a Diabetic. but then said heck with it, I
> have no one but me to blame

That is fantastic news, Gary! I am a little disturbed by the word
"blame" in your post - don't blame yourself for having diabetes - there
is no room for blame with this disease. We can blame all we want but
that does not change the cause of the disease which are many. You have
done an awesome job of gaining control and it sounds liek you are going
to stay on top of it. Congratulate yourself again, and keep up the
excellent work.

Patti
Cheri - 28 Feb 2006 00:16 GMT
Congratulations Gary. This is great news on a rainy afternoon. :-)

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Julie Bove - 28 Feb 2006 00:31 GMT
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Glad you are doing better!

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Laura@notmy.com - 28 Feb 2006 01:17 GMT
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Great going, Gary!  Keep up the good work and good health to you!
Mary - 28 Feb 2006 01:26 GMT
Wow, I would say "huge congratulations" to you!  That takes a lot of
hard work!

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Alan S - 28 Feb 2006 01:32 GMT
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C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S!!!!!

And I agree with Anil - details please. What did you do,
what do you eat, when do you test, etc etc.

Whatever you do - it worked for you - and it may work for
others.

Enquiring minds need to know:-)

Abso-bloody-lutely wonderful!

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Sleepyman - 28 Feb 2006 01:54 GMT
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Wow, aside from the official diagnoses, great news all around. Keep up
the good work!

Sleepy

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flathman - 28 Feb 2006 02:48 GMT
You're an inspiration to all of us.  Great job!
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TigerLily - 28 Feb 2006 14:09 GMT
wow, Gary. YOU are the MAN!

this progress simply rocks!
congratulations

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Nicky - 28 Feb 2006 21:08 GMT
> Good day all..
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> just wanted to say thank you.....

Wow! What a difference! Good for you!

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bantista - 01 Mar 2006 00:22 GMT
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Hello, Gary

Contrats on the excellent A1C and the getting things under control.
But have you had your eyes checked yet? I hope so.

Since you have been watching the group you will know already why I ask.

My last A1C was also 5.9, but my walking about averages are not so good as
85.
What kind of pp #s do you see? I notice my highest #s at 40 min from start
of meal
usually. Depends on meal content, of course, as well. The other day I had a
lunch I thought I should be able to handle, a little ramen noodles (27g of
carb) with added mushrooms, onion, garlic clove, red and black pepper, soy
sauce and sesame oil. And I've had this meal before without a problem. But
this day I hit a 183 at 50 min from start. It didn't come down to a
reasonable number for hours. Not fun. No physical effects that can be felt,
of course, but this is a pretty consistant meter. Reads a little low
compared with newer, plasma adjusted meters, but returns good results all
the time. I sometimes get odd readings from the newer meter I have which
uses a smaller sample size and different strip technology.

Again, excellent progress. Hats off to you, and I mean that literally since
I'm a big fur felt fedora fan.

regards,
rudy
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Chris J. - 01 Mar 2006 00:33 GMT
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Gary, that is wonderful! Great work!!!

However, I do advise you, if you have not done so, to get to an
ophthalmologist for a retinal exam ASAP.
With a Bg that high, I am assuming you were on insulin for a while?
Mine was 625 at Dx, and I was placed on insulin for a short time. My
A1c was 12.5, and I lowered it to 5.4 within three months.

However, I'm now dealing with what is probably a complication of doing
so. It might be rare, but it is quite real, and it's called
normoglycemic re-entry phenomenon (Or early worsening retinopathy). I
went from having no retinopathy to having retinopathy and macular
edemas in both eyes. With laser treatment (commencing next week), I'll
probably be ok, but had this gone undetected I might well have major
vision loss.  

So, when I saw your post, it sounded to me like you might have a
similar profile, and be at risk yourself. So, please, do yourself a
favor and get to an ophthalmologist (not an optometrist) for a full
retinal exam (painless, no touching, just some eyedrops) pronto.
You may have been told, even by a doctor, to wait for six months or
more before getting your eyes checked, as you glasses prescription is
likely to change. It is true that the glasses prescription may change,
so holding off on new glasses is a good idea, but if anyone (including
a doc) tells you to wait on the retinal exam, ignore them. Get the
exam.

Some symptoms to look out for: photosensitivity; are your eyes more
sensitive to bright light?

dazzle spots or "cotton wool spots": Do you get places in your vision
where it's hard to see, like the dazzle you get from a bright point
source of light, but lasting hours or days?
Finally, have a look at this online eye test. It takes about 20
seconds.
http://www.eyesight.org/Eye_Test/eye_test.html
Please be aware that having no symptoms is not proof you don't have a
problem. I have none in my left eye, yet still have trouble there too.
But, if you have any symptoms, don't walk, run, to an ophthalmologist.
bantista - 01 Mar 2006 02:02 GMT
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> problem. I have none in my left eye, yet still have trouble there too.
> But, if you have any symptoms, don't walk, run, to an ophthalmologist.

Hello, Chris J,

How are you doing, my friend? I think of you often. You have truly been
through the wringer with this disease lately. I sincerely hope things will
resolve satisfactorily for your eyes. I know how much this matters to us
sighted persons. And I hate for any little detail to be in any way out of
focus or not visible at any distance myself. Makes me nuts. So, this is very
scary, and I just hope it works out for you without any detrement for you.
But, again, how are you feeling about it all? It would just consume me, I
know.

I have huge faith in your ability to make something better happen when
things aren't going the way we would wish through your character and
strength of will and purpose.

On another matter, hope your mother is well.

best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
Chris J. - 02 Mar 2006 02:09 GMT
>Hello, Chris J,
>
>How are you doing, my friend? I think of you often. You have truly been
>through the wringer with this disease lately. I sincerely hope things will
>resolve satisfactorily for your eyes.

Thanks...

> I know how much this matters to us
>sighted persons. And I hate for any little detail to be in any way out of
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>But, again, how are you feeling about it all? It would just consume me, I
>know.

The waiting (for the next tests, next week) is the hardest for me.
But, I'm a lot more hopeful now, so I'm doing ok, and am in a far
better mood overall.

>I have huge faith in your ability to make something better happen when
>things aren't going the way we would wish through your character and
>strength of will and purpose.

Thanks, Rudy.

>On another matter, hope your mother is well.

She's doing great. Her BG's seem ok lately. A moderately carby meal
put her at 103 (1 hour PP) yesterday, which isn't bad at all IMHO. She
was laughing at me over it too, because I ate the same meal and ended
up at 123. The reason she was teasing me is that this is the first
time a similar meal has put me higher than her, and I've been using
the fact that my readings are usually lower than hers to bug her to
watch her diet a little. (just a little).

So, we had a good laugh, which did us both good. :-)  
bantista - 02 Mar 2006 21:30 GMT
>>Hello, Chris J,
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> So, we had a good laugh, which did us both good. :-)

Hello, Chris J.

That's just great news all around. I was hoping your mother would be well
and it seems she is. Fantastic. I was also hoping you would be dealing with
your eye issues as far as one might, and you are. That's also great. I know
things have not completely resolved, and I know there are still questions
which need to be answered, but you will sort that out as well as it may be
done; I'm sure. You are one of my heros for your dedication and common sense
in dealing with all the diverse issues of this disease. Hang in there and be
well and happy in your life.

Best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
wmmckee@cox.net - 02 Mar 2006 21:58 GMT
> Hello, Chris J.
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> rudy
> bantista@thuntek.net

Hi Rudy,

I just wanted to say hello to you. I hope you are well these, days after the
tragedy that happened with your brother. You are a really good guy, Rudy.

Will, T2
bantista - 03 Mar 2006 22:33 GMT
>> Hello, Chris J.
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> Will, T2

Hello, Will
Thank you very much for your concern and your kind words. They are very much
appreciated. He was a good guy in spite of all the trials and trouble life
handed him and inspired many with his kind heart and willingness to work
hard and care for others. And he didn't linger. Since we are going to go
somehow, a quick and relatively painless exit is probably better than some
others. I choose to believe in life after this life. So he's ok now. I just
won't have his company. I always think we all lose when someone leaves this
life.

Thank you again.

best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
wmmckee@cox.net - 03 Mar 2006 23:19 GMT
> He was a good guy in spite of all the trials and trouble life
> handed him and inspired many with his kind heart and willingness to work
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> this
> life.

Hello, again, Rudy

Another way of looking at it would be that as long as he lives in your
memories, your brother is with you, every day. And, through you, he is with
all of us, in a way... I know that is of limited consolation, but until it
is your time, it is the best anyone can do. Your great love for your
brother, Rudy, tells me of the great and wonderful man you, yourself, must
be.

You know there is a concept in Hasidic Judaism, "Devekut", that comes to
mind here, which may be relevant to what you must be feeling.... Devekut is
too complicated to explain here, but speaking somewhat poetically, one
aspect would be that every word and action of man produces a corresponding
resonance in the upper spheres.... In that school of thought, the life of a
good man like your brother makes a world of difference to us all, and we are
all blessed by his having been among us.

Be well, Rudy, and take care,

Will, T2
bantista - 04 Mar 2006 02:00 GMT
> You know there is a concept in Hasidic Judaism, "Devekut", that comes to
> mind here, which may be relevant to what you must be feeling.... Devekut
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> Will, T2

Will,

Again, thank you for your many kind thoughts and considerate support. You
are an asset to the community. A too quick search reveals that understanding
this concept is likely a lifes work in itself, much like becoming buddah in
ones own life. All these concepts are worth persuing and have great value
for personal growth and actualization. They seem to exist in every deeply
considered  religous faith. I have a great respect for these traditions and
teachings which give us all hope that life is not just the suffering and rot
but may rise above all that to be worth so much more for oneself and with
concentration for others as well. In some way, it does not matter to me what
the answers might be, even if we are just meat on the hoof, I would rather
try to live so that the world of meat is better and people with whom I
interact are benefitted and one would hope delighted to have been here
together even with all the trials and trouble of physical existance.

best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last AiC 5.9, cuttent bg 173 damnit. Many other expletives deleted.

(It hasn't been that long since I finished eating 2 tacos and a tostada and
I will be normal again soon. But, Rats!)
W.M.McKee - 04 Mar 2006 03:02 GMT
In some way, it does not matter to me what
>the answers might be, even if we are just meat on the hoof, I would rather
>try to live so that the world of meat is better and people with whom I
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>(It hasn't been that long since I finished eating 2 tacos and a tostada and
>I will be normal again soon. But, Rats!)

I am here for you Rudy, and for that matter, so are many of the rest
of us. I think you are onto something, by the way.... about your
approach to life, I mean. :-) I wish I could shake your hand and give
you a hug right now.

Take care.

Will, T2
Chris J. - 03 Mar 2006 04:06 GMT
>Hello, Chris J.

Hi, Rudy!

>That's just great news all around. I was hoping your mother would be well
>and it seems she is. Fantastic.

I still think it needs keeping an eye on, but she's fine unless she
goes way overboard.

> I was also hoping you would be dealing with
>your eye issues as far as one might, and you are. That's also great. I know
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>in dealing with all the diverse issues of this disease. Hang in there and be
>well and happy in your life.

Thanks, Rudy! I'm trying my best, but I fumble often enough. :-)

How are things in Albuquerque? Been up Sandia peak lately? I loved the
hiking trails up there. (this was about two years ago).  
bantista - 03 Mar 2006 22:45 GMT
>>Hello, Chris J.
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> How are things in Albuquerque? Been up Sandia peak lately? I loved the
> hiking trails up there. (this was about two years ago).

Hello, Chris,

The weather is great and the people are warm and friendly for the most part.
Right now we have a bad drought which is kind of scary. We are all one spark
away from a wildfire that will take out hundreds of acres all the time. I
haven't been up there in years, but you are right. It's full of beauty and
trails for every skill level or physical ability. The rock climbing is also
good for persons who can do that.  I just love looking up at the mountains
throughout the year. I think we will be having problems with the wildlife
though because it has been such a warm winter and so very dry. The bears are
already up and about and there isn't much food for them this year. That
won't affect me directly, but it certainly can be a big problem for my
fellow citizens.

Take care of yourself and please give my compliments to your dear mother,
she done good.

best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last A1C 5.9, current bg 120
Chris J. - 04 Mar 2006 21:21 GMT
>The weather is great and the people are warm and friendly for the most part.
>Right now we have a bad drought which is kind of scary. We are all one spark
>away from a wildfire that will take out hundreds of acres all the time.

Sorry to hear you have drought trouble too. I'm in Northern Arizona,
and it's the driest year on record. We have had one very light
snowfall this winter, and that's it. Otherwise, bone dry since
October.

I'm really nervous about fire, as I'm at high risk for that at the
best of times. I live in a forest, and it's tinder dry already.

>I
>haven't been up there in years, but you are right. It's full of beauty and
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>won't affect me directly, but it certainly can be a big problem for my
>fellow citizens.

I'm having bear trouble here, too. They are making real pests of
themselves, and come around even more often than normal. I'm not even
going to try and grow herbs or vegetables this year, as I've had bears
rummaging around in my garden area several times this week already.
The last thing I need is something to make them more likely to come
around.
bantista - 05 Mar 2006 00:50 GMT
>>The weather is great and the people are warm and friendly for the most
>>part.
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> I'm really nervous about fire, as I'm at high risk for that at the
> best of times. I live in a forest, and it's tinder dry already.

Hello, Chris,

I expected as much. Pretty scary. Hope you keep your insurance and household
items lists up to date. One lightening strike in the forrest and everything
can go.

>>I
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> The last thing I need is something to make them more likely to come
> around.

People around here can't always keep them out of thier houses when it gets
bad. Usually, of course it is only the bears who end up getting hurt when
they come into the populated areas. Very rarely one gets put down. Most of
the time they are able to sedate them and drop them off in a more suitable
location. We also get lions and coyotes in the foothills which will eat the
household pets. Where I'm at in town, close to the river, I don't see this
kind of wildlife, but there are more skunks about every year it seems. And
bats. Those two are, as you know, at pretty serious risk of rabies. We had a
case of this last year when a teenage boy found a dying bat outside his
front door and dropped it off at a vets office. He had to undergo the
treatments. The bat died and our local animal control managed to find the
rest of the nest. I don't know what they did to sort that out, just that
they did. In my own yard most of the wildlife I see are birds like the
roadrunners (there are two that show up year after year) and bluejays
sometimes. Mostly sparrows and swallows. I sometimes see hawks and vultures
but not usually in my yard. Very close by though. Once or twice when passing
by the river I swear I think I saw an eagle since it was so enormous and was
clearly not a hawk nor a vulture, but everyone tells me that's crazy talk. I
still think it was. We did get a very large porcupine waddling about in the
twilight one evening. That was a sight in the heart of a busy city. And no
threat to anyone. Usually the worst thing around here are the black widow
spiders which are liable to turn up just about anywhere and mosquitos which
have actually been less in recent years though more dangerous due to the
viruses they can carry. Out on the Air Force Base they get a lot of
rattlesnakes as well. I'm sure you see some of the same kind of thing where
you are.

We don't get grizzlies about but even these black bears can be pretty big.
Last week a 450 pound bear got run over on the highway and killed. They said
from the state of his pads that he had been up and walking around for a
while already. No persons were injured which is kind of amazing. If they had
hit one of our deer, the driver probably wouldn't have fared so well.

I hope you can escape the fire danger this year without harm. The west is in
pretty bad shape, and I have some of my relatives living in dangerous
country in southwest Oklahoma that I also worry about. Since you are so far
from aid or assistance in case of this kind of sudden danger, as my
relatives are as well, I just hope nothing happens. They have horses and
dogs to care for also which add a whole other level to the concern, since no
one could run from danger without taking care of the animals first.

On topic, I know your bg are better than mine and I continue to hope your
eyes will resolve without any permanent harm.

Take care of  yourself in these trying times. I hear stress raises bg and
none of us needs that. :-).

Best regards and my compliments to your dear mother,

rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last A1C 5.9, current bg 143 1hr from finish of 3 corn tortilla
enchiladas with cheese, lettus, tomato,  lots of red chile sauce, and red
wine 12%.
Chris J. - 05 Mar 2006 05:45 GMT
>Hello, Chris,
>
>I expected as much. Pretty scary. Hope you keep your insurance and household
>items lists up to date. One lightening strike in the forrest and everything
>can go.

I've been trapped up here by a fire before, so I do keep the insurance
current, as well as a video inventory (plus serial numbers for major
items) in a safe deposit box at the bank. I've also moved important
papers, keepsakes, etc, to the bank vault. A new copy of my computer
backup drive will soon follow.

The first two miles going out of here are on a very bad jeep trail,
and it's the only route. After that, it joins a slightly better road
(still nothing a car could handle) but that goes in two directions. If
I can make the junction, I can get out. If not, I'm trapped, but
that's nowhere near as bad as it sounds. I've got an emergency
shelter: an old mineshaft on my property, just a hundred yards from
the house. It's mainly horizontal, and still in good condition (it's
in hard rock, no supports needed). I've got a stash of food, water,
metformin, a meter, and other survival gear in there, including a
radio (though that sure won't work underground). I also put it on file
with the fire service as somewhere to check for me, just in case the
entrance gets blocked. So, I should be ok, no matter what. Keeps life
interesting, I suppose. :-)

BTW, I did put a door on the mineshaft, as I use it for storage, and I
prefer to keep bears and rattlers out. I'd hate to go there and find a
bear in there already. :-)    

>> I'm having bear trouble here, too. They are making real pests of
>> themselves, and come around even more often than normal. I'm not even
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>the time they are able to sedate them and drop them off in a more suitable
>location.

I couldn't get mine relocated, as I'm in the wilderness. I could shoot
them, but I have no intention of doing so. It would be difficult for
one to get in my house, but if one tried I would shoot under those
circumstances. But, I prefer to co-exist.  

> We also get lions and coyotes in the foothills which will eat the
>household pets.

I get a lot of lion. After a snow, you see their tracks everywhere. I
see the lions themselves occasionally, but always the tracks. I've
been stalked a time or two while out hiking, just casual interest I
think, but for that, I do use a gun. I shoot to miss, but I make it
close to give them a scare.

> Where I'm at in town, close to the river, I don't see this
>kind of wildlife, but there are more skunks about every year it seems. And
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>clearly not a hawk nor a vulture, but everyone tells me that's crazy talk. I
>still think it was.

There are eagles in the southwest, I've seen them in several places,
including around here.

> We did get a very large porcupine waddling about in the
>twilight one evening. That was a sight in the heart of a busy city. And no
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>rattlesnakes as well. I'm sure you see some of the same kind of thing where
>you are.

Not too many rattlers, though I do get a few. I'm at 7000ft, more of
an alpine forest biome that what people expect to find in Arizona.

The wildlife here is diverse. Deer, Elk, black bear, mountain lion,
Javalina, Tarantulas, Skunk, Lynx, Coyotes, just to name a few I've
seen often.

Oh, the Tarantulas (huge ones, size of your hand) do not live at this
high an altitude, according to all the books. I guess this proves that
the ones here just don't bother to read.

>We don't get grizzlies about but even these black bears can be pretty big.

No grizzlies here either! And I'm very glad of that. Just black bear.
Grizzlies would scare the heck out of me.

>I hope you can escape the fire danger this year without harm. The west is in
>pretty bad shape, and I have some of my relatives living in dangerous
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>dogs to care for also which add a whole other level to the concern, since no
>one could run from danger without taking care of the animals first.

I'm fortunate in this regard: no pets. My Mother lives in town so she
would not be at risk either.  

>Take care of  yourself in these trying times. I hear stress raises bg and
>none of us needs that. :-).

Yep... It's not that bad, really. It's just one of those things. I'm
well insured, and this is just one of the risks one accepts when
choosing to live where I do. It's all part of the deal. So, I'm not
stressed over it.

>Best regards and my compliments to your dear mother,

Thanks, Rudy!!

>rudy
>bantista@thuntek.net
>T2, last A1C 5.9, current bg 143 1hr from finish of 3 corn tortilla
>enchiladas with cheese, lettus, tomato,  lots of red chile sauce, and red
>wine 12%.

Enchiladas!! Ahhh, that does sound good! One of the things I loved
about your area was the food. I'll make a point of making some soon
(the restaurants in my area are awful, due to catering to tourists).
W.M.McKee - 05 Mar 2006 08:28 GMT
>People around here can't always keep them out of thier houses when it gets
>bad. Usually, of course it is only the bears who end up getting hurt when
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>enchiladas with cheese, lettus, tomato,  lots of red chile sauce, and red
>wine 12%.

Jeepers, Rudy... And to think I have been worried about our
neighborhood rats and rabbits... I live in a neighborhood that looks
like " Watership Down"... cute little rabbits all over the place.
Then, we've also got the original cast of the "Secret of NIMH", along
with Fivel mouse and the gang,  lurking in the bushes, also... No
bears, though. There is a limit to what rats, mice, and rabbits can
do, in comparison to bears, I think.

Will, T2
bantista - 05 Mar 2006 20:09 GMT
>>People around here can't always keep them out of thier houses when it gets
>>bad. Usually, of course it is only the bears who end up getting hurt when
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>
> Will, T2

Hello, Will

Ack! Rats scare the heck out of me. Shudder.  I don't know if this is an
urban legend or not but I hear they come into houses through the toilets
sometimes, not that they need to since they can eat through steel mesh and
fit through tiny holes. Plus, pretty smart animals. The neighborhood cats
tend to keep the mice away since they travel through the yard on a daily
basis, but I don't know if that would deter rats.

best regards,
rudy
bantista@thuntek.net
T2, last A1C 5.9, current bg 149, 44 min from start of red chile with meat
and a few pinto beans, onion, chedder cheese and red wine 12%. Should be
normal by 2 hours.
wmmckee@cox.net - 06 Mar 2006 15:06 GMT
> Hello, Will
>
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> best regards,
> rudy

Yes, rats and squirrels are both seemingly very smart... I have to be
extremely vigilant to make sure they cannot get in under the house. We also
have to take care with the garden, so as not to provide them with undue
amounts of sustnance. Actually, the birds and the rabbits seem to like the
garden more than the rats and mice. And as you know, rabbits can be quite
happy nibbling upon fresh green shoots of grass.

Will, T2
 
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