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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / February 2006BDNF as brain fertilizer
G'day G'day Folks, For yet another reason to exercise. http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060225/bob10.asp See if you notice the "sedimentary mice." If you did, great. If not, exercise more. Best wishes,  SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >G'day G'day Folks, > > For yet another reason to exercise. > >http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060225/bob10.asp Thank you, that was very interesting, and yet another benefit of exercise. >See if you notice the "sedimentary mice." >If you did, great. >If not, exercise more. ROFL!!!!!! That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary long enough, and you become sedimentary. :-P That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary > long enough, and you become sedimentary. :-P On the topic of exercise, Dr. Bernstein's book specifically warns people with retinopathy against certain kinds of exercise that might increase damage. He writes that for people with neovascularization, "If you strain too much, assume a head-down position, or land hard on your feet, these [new blood vessels] can rupture and hemorrhage, causing blindness." p. 206. He goes on to warn against weight lifting, chining, pushups, sit-ups, running, jumping, falling and diving. He says bicycling and surface swimming are okay but "first check with your physician." --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary >> long enough, and you become sedimentary. :-P [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >running, jumping, falling and diving. He says bicycling and surface >swimming are okay but "first check with your physician." Uhoh!! Thanks, Jenny! I'd assumed that anything causing blood pressure surges (such as a head down position, impact, etc) would be a bad idea. I did check with my retinal specialist on this (exercise and activity) the other day, and his opinion was that I was fine to do anything. Perhaps that's because of my individual retinal condition, or maybe he's wrong, I have no idea. However, I'm avoiding anything high impact or high stress, just to be safe. I'm still doing the hiking, and my weight work is now confined to conditioning loads (much less stress and BG impact). I was also supposed to be going hang gliding this weekend, but canceled as that can involve some severe shocks. >>That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > I was also supposed to be going hang gliding this weekend, but > canceled as that can involve some severe shocks. Chris, I had another thought. Were you the person who posted a while back that you live at high altitude? That in itself has an impact on pressure-related conditions. Signature--Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >I had another thought. Were you the person who posted a while back that >you live at high altitude? Moderately high: 7000ft. >That in itself has an impact on pressure-related conditions. That was a concern of mine, and so I did ask both eye Docs about it. They said it wouldn't be an issue, even for flying in an airliner (where cabin pressure equates to about 8000ft MSL). I'm going to stay away from the high country (anything over 8000), though! HOWEVER... You just made me think of something. That's another variable that was different on my vacation (when my eye symptoms disappeared): I was at far lower altitudes (sea level for most of it). Hmmmm... ade me think of something. That's another > variable that was different on my vacation (when my eye symptoms > disappeared): I was at far lower altitudes (sea level for most of it). > Hmmmm... This might be relevant. My tinnitus is exquisitely sensitive to both altitude and air pressure. When certain kinds of weather fronts are coming in, my ears suddenly start squealing. Usually it gets worse as altitude goes up. --Jenny http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >ade me think of something. That's another >> variable that was different on my vacation (when my eye symptoms [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >coming in, my ears suddenly start squealing. Usually it gets worse as >altitude goes up. Uhoh... OK, I'm conflicted on this one. It was an early concern of mine, so I made a point of asking the specialist, and he said it was ok. BUT, given both my lack of symptoms while on vacation, and the fact that altitude does play a role in some circulation issues, I'm not sure I believe him. The big question is, HOW does he know this? Just an assumption? Has it ever been studied? I'll be asking this in the next few days. I'll also start packing in case I decide to relocate for a while. I hope 1000ft would be low enough, as that's about as low as I can go in Arizona. >>That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary >>> long enough, and you become sedimentary. :-P [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >I was also supposed to be going hang gliding this weekend, but >canceled as that can involve some severe shocks. Hi Chris I've been following the saga of your eye problems with concern, and I hope that things can be done to improve it. When you first mentioned it I had a vague memory of something Gretchen Becker said on the subject of rapid A1c reduction from high levels. Possibly it wasn't in her book but on a Yahoo group. Then again, maybe it was Derek Paice. If you give me clearance I may post some of your story on that group to see if she answers - but I can't make guarantees, I'm not sure if she still reads it. Alternatively, you may like to pass a precis to me direct (remove weightandcarbs). One of our long-time posters who has had to unfortunately retire from the scene recently was Annette. She had been a type 2 for over thirty years and has been through all the cycles of good and bad treatment. She had a particular interest in eye problems and diet, and if you search the archives for her posts on the subject you will find some valuable informnation. These are just some on macular degeneration to start with: http://tinyurl.com/lsu6b http://tinyurl.com/rd969 http://tinyurl.com/qhpsw http://tinyurl.com/ownrm Incidentally, I implore the people who post valuable input to asd and mhd to NOT use x-no archive. I use Google groups often to refresh my memory of past posts by wonderful people like Annette - and sometimes the only simple way to see posts from some of you is to see them quoted by others. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >I've been following the saga of your eye problems with >concern, and I hope that things can be done to improve it. Thanks, Alan. I should mention that there is no need to improve my vision, as at present the problems are only barely detectable in one eye on a test grid. As long as I can get out of this without too much further damage, I'll be utterly delighted. >When you first mentioned it I had a vague memory of >something Gretchen Becker said on the subject of rapid A1c [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Alternatively, you may like to pass a precis to me direct >(remove weightandcarbs). I'll do that, it will be on it's way in a few minutes, thanks! >One of our long-time posters who has had to unfortunately >retire from the scene recently was Annette. She had been a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/qhpsw >http://tinyurl.com/ownrm Thanks, I read those, and will dig for more. >Incidentally, I implore the people who post valuable input >to asd and mhd to NOT use x-no archive. I use Google groups >often to refresh my memory of past posts by wonderful people >like Annette - and sometimes the only simple way to see >posts from some of you is to see them quoted by others. I use the no archive bit myself, but I've just taken it out, as of now, in case anything I've been discussing might be useful to someone. Frankly, I'd forgotten I was using it. Thanks, Alan! >I'll do that, it will be on it's way in a few minutes, thanks! Received. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. This post not CC'd by email On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:23:34 -0700, Chris J. <chris@noadress.com> wrote: >>G'day G'day Folks, >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >That did catch my eye... But it's sort of appropriate: stay sedentary >long enough, and you become sedimentary. :-P G'day G'day Chris, I thought so too. The catch is many people try to bargain ... if I do this much to avoid sedentary will I avoid sedimentary? When a certain small amount works one day they begin to think it will work next day and the next ... Best wishes SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > G'day G'day Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you did, great. > If not, exercise more. I prefer igneous myself :D This post not CC'd by email On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:06:23 GMT, "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote: >> G'day G'day Folks, >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I prefer igneous myself :D Interesting. I know people collect fired porcelain cats. Do some people collect mice as well to keep them entertained? SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > G'day G'day Folks, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you did, great. > If not, exercise more. Out for a walk now : ) And the article's saved to hit eldest daughter with. She often claims she's too busy studying to exercise; the article's a lovely counterargument for that. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >> For yet another reason to exercise. >> http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20060225/bob10.asp > Out for a walk now : ) And the article's saved to hit eldest daughter > with. She often claims she's too busy studying to exercise; the article's > a lovely counterargument for that. A couple of personal anecdotes about exercise & studying -- 28 years ago I was studying for my comprehensive exams for my master's degree. I studied several hours, then went for a run (30-40 mins); during the run I wrote essays in my mind about the topic(s) I'd been reading up on that day. I'm convinced it helped me get through the exam (though not with flying colors!), which was an essay exam, choose 2 out of 3 topics/questions that could be from a wide variety of subjects (administration of justice & law enforcement) -- so I had to be prepared for just about anything, from constitutional law to police discretion to history of.... to theories of criminology. Years later, when I was studying math (for another master's degree -- I like that level -- challenging but not as long/hard/narrow as going for a doctorate), exercise was again my friend! Even modest walking-with-dogs helped me work out proofs (& firm up in my mind all sorts of lists, formulas, methods, etc. that I would need to know). One night I blew a theorem proof on an exam. I came home & walked the dogs as usual, & during the walk I realized (aha!) the solution to the sticking point -- I wrote it up & put in the prof's box the next day (just to show him I had figured it out) & he even gave me credit for it! bj This post not CC'd by email On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:56:58 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote: >Years later, when I was studying math (for another master's degree -- I like >that level -- challenging but not as long/hard/narrow as going for a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >out) & he even gave me credit for it! >bj G'day G'day bj, Thanks bj for showing one can exercise and study. I mentor some students on how to be successful students. It is enjoyable but challenging. We discuss's some questions that help them clarify decisions that are likely to be important sooner or later during the term. Here is one of them that sorts out those for whom the wheels are more likely to fall off from those whose won't. It's multichoice. 1. Plan the first week. 2. Plan you recreation or holidays first. BTW, I find walking with the dogs as they swim up the river helps me compose chapters for my book. It is sort of like rehearsal. Walking along is repetitive but it moves on. Mentally it allows me to go over passages and not get stuck on one particular passage. Best wishes and thanks for the confirmation of the efficacy of exercise for studying. SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin Oh, yes, walking has been good for my thinking since college. I frequently worked out the basis for lit papers while walking, and even composed the first few paragraphs whlie crossing the campus. I still use walks as a time to mull over whatever has been on my mind when I'm not listening to music. I'd really like a little recorder to use while walking, or, even better, a sort of brain recorder - often featured in sci. fic. novels. So often I have wonderful ideas, or great phrases or whole paragraphs of something I am working on or need to write to someone, but when I have the change to get it on paper it is gone. Pacing at home is good, too, for working things out or getting started on a project. I'm notorious to my staff for the pacing, tea-drinking and general muttering I do when the annual report is due. It works; the report gets done, and usually contains more than I would have produced by just sitting at the computer and typing whatever came to mind. Susan Adair > Oh, yes, walking has been good for my thinking since college. I > frequently worked out the basis for lit papers while walking, and even [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > produced by just sitting at the computer and typing whatever came to > mind. I discovered when I was a student how much more productive were study groups which walked compared to study groups which sat round on chairs. The brain thinks in a different way when walking than when sitting, and different again when lying down. One of the sad things the motor car has done is remove the possibility of relaxed conversational walks from many of our cities. SignatureChris Malcolm cam@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/] > BTW, I find walking with the dogs as they swim up the river helps me > compose chapters for my book. It is sort of like rehearsal. Walking [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Best wishes and thanks for the confirmation of the efficacy of > exercise for studying. Glad to be of help. I think, though, at least for me, the fresh air is part of what helps my thinking -- both quality & "flow" -- if I'm exercising inside (e.g. treadmill) I'll have the TV on -- somehow my own thoughts just aren't company enough without the outside air & surroundings! I also haven't used my treadmill much since my last dog died over 5 years ago -- I was used to her being around playing or at least keeping me company (along with the TV!) & after she died I couldn't use the tm without crying for many months -- & by then I was used to going outside in everything but ice-underfoot weather. It must be great fun to be *outside* watching the dogs play while you think & ponder. And I'm sure they're enjoying it too. One thing I used to do when I was studying for exams was "lecture" to my dogs while I paced around the room -- they didn't *always* fall asleep. bj This post not CC'd by email On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:08:26 GMT, "bj" <bjones44@bellatlantic.net> wrote: >Glad to be of help. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >& after she died I couldn't use the tm without crying for many months -- & >by then I was used to going outside in everything but ice-underfoot weather. G'day G'day bj, something we don't talk about much is anchors. Not the sort of anchors that ships require the sort of things that remind us of past events. One wise person said to me, "When you have done something wrong, buy flowers ... never a pot plant." I asked why. They replied that flowers faded, they had a natural statute of limitations. When the flowers died the events surrounding them being given would be forgotten, a matter of unrecorded history. A pot plant would go on reminding and reminding and reminding. To put it in other words the pot plant would be a permanent anchor. When you go for a walk outside, you can walk along different paths and your mind will take different paths and the memories of the new paths will replace the old memories and you move on. >It must be great fun to be *outside* watching the dogs play while you think >& ponder. And I'm sure they're enjoying it too. Thanks, for appreciating this. That is how it is for me. Watching the dogs takes my mind off such things. >One thing I used to do when I was studying for exams was "lecture" to my >dogs while I paced around the room -- they didn't *always* fall asleep. >bj Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin >This post not CC'd by email > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >Best wishes, Quentin, that was a very nice post! I like your personal philosophy about plants and walks. Never thought about potted plants that way. Will, T2 This post not CC'd by email On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 07:13:43 -0500, W.M.McKee <wmmckee@cox.net> wrote: >Quentin, that was a very nice post! I like your personal philosophy >about plants and walks. Never thought about potted plants that way. > >Will, T2 G'day G'day Will, Thank you. Walking with the dogs gives me time to notice the naturalistic healing processes, time to wonder how they work and how they can become a part of my lifestyle. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin This post not CC'd by email On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:13:39 -0000, "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote: >Out for a walk now : ) And the article's saved to hit eldest daughter with. >She often claims she's too busy studying to exercise; the article's a lovely >counterargument for that. > >Nicky. G'day G'day Nicky, Watch it. She is likely to ask you to join her. Some of these youngsters get really devoted and motor along. Time to buy some running shoes perhaps. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > Watch it. She is likely to ask you to join her. Some of these > youngsters get really devoted and motor along. Time to buy some > running shoes perhaps. She's usually trying to get out of joining me : ) I had a lovely bonus on my walk yesterday. I picked up an 1890 farthing! That was 4 years before my grandmother was born! It was just lying on the path in a clod of earth. I wonder what kind of language the farmworker used when he found he'd lost it : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg This post not CC'd by email On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:18:50 -0000, "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> wrote: >> Watch it. She is likely to ask you to join her. Some of these >> youngsters get really devoted and motor along. Time to buy some >> running shoes perhaps. > >She's usually trying to get out of joining me : ) G'day G'day Nicky, She might change. People do. >I had a lovely bonus on my walk yesterday. I picked up an 1890 farthing! >That was 4 years before my grandmother was born! It was just lying on the >path in a clod of earth. I wonder what kind of language the farmworker used >when he found he'd lost it : ) Nothing like yours I imagine. Would it have been a day's wage ... a week's wage? >Nicky. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > This post not CC'd by email > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Nothing like yours I imagine. > Would it have been a day's wage ... a week's wage? I wonder how many people now even remember what a farthing is. Or why "sixpence in her shoe" means something lucky for the bride (I still have my sixpence that I saved just-in-case, but never did get married). bj |
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